Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Hi Frank, Thanks for the info. I looked up the Inversion Table. That is kind of neat. I know it would not be for me. I get light-headed just looking at the picture. Glad it works for you though. Heather in Calgary P.S. Did you check out this site Frank and if so have you heard of it? I've got a call in to my Physiatrist and am hoping to be able to try this out to see if it will help with my foot drop. http://www.walkaide.com/index.html - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Heather & Pieter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention I'd be so light-headed after hanging upside down I'd have to lay down the rest of the day. Are you harnessed in or what? How the heck do you hang upside down?? I get in this "Tilt machine", close an ankle lock around my ankles (foam lined steel; then I raise my arms to my chest and my body tilts back, then I raise my arms to my neck and I rotate upside down. When I waant get off, I just lower my hands to waist level. Try googling Tilt or inversion machine?? F -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 3/28/2008 10:58 AM
Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Frank, they advertise this on TV for back pain which a good lot of us have. Some of us who have gotten to the point where we can walk but drag a foot, it throws our balance off and then our backs as any of us who have gone to a chiropractor will find out. Do you think it would help make a short person like me taller Seriously, I can see how it would help in a lot of ways but I do think it would be a good idea for us to make sure our provider is okay with it? Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/28/2008 10:45:55 AM To: Heather & Pieter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention > I'd be so light-headed after hanging upside down I'd have to lay down the > rest of the day. Are you harnessed in or what? How the heck do you hang > upside down?? I get in this "Tilt machine", close an ankle lock around my ankles (foam lined steel; then I raise my arms to my chest and my body tilts back, then I raise my arms to my neck and I rotate upside down. When I waant get off, I just lower my hands to waist level. Try googling Tilt or inversion machine?? F
Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Hey, that would probably work way better than my suggestion!! You are too funny, Gunny! j ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/28/2008 10:13:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention I learned early on the grab the sock with my teeth, pull my bottom lip over top of my head, and scream till the cows come home. By that time, someone was there to help me. Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home.
Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
> YOU CAN GET MACHINES LIKE THIS FROM QVC ARE STORES LIKE ACADEMY. I DO NOT > THINK YOUR INSURANCE WOULD PAY FOR IT THOUGH! >TIAD PAM I bought the machine for my patients back when I was a doctor. The machine work well on low back pain! F
Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
> I'd be so light-headed after hanging upside down I'd have to lay down the > rest of the day. Are you harnessed in or what? How the heck do you hang > upside down?? I get in this "Tilt machine", close an ankle lock around my ankles (foam lined steel; then I raise my arms to my chest and my body tilts back, then I raise my arms to my neck and I rotate upside down. When I waant get off, I just lower my hands to waist level. Try googling Tilt or inversion machine?? F
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You are too funny!! I would do it for You Tube if I knew how except I might need a little boogie-woogie music for background!! Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Sandy Heidel Date: 3/27/2008 3:17:18 PM To: jrushton; Butcher Bernard G \(NY80\); tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention Are you all thinkin what I am thinkin??? Yup thats right.YOU TUBE! I am gonna need to see a You Tube video of you putting your socks on this way! Then we can vote on a titleSocks gone wild? We could get Frank to do it and call it "Frankinsocks". Okay I am done now. Sandy in Wisconsin where the wood box has been filled for the last time this year and I mean it. - Original Message - From: jrushton To: Butcher Bernard G (NY80) ; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:59 PM Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention Well, I learned this after the nurses in PT would battle daily with my socks and then one day this little gal came in and whipped those old socks on like a hoodathunkit!! I hope I can explain it well... Turn the sock completely inside out and then turn just the toe right side out. Put the toe part over your own toes and then slide the sock right up your foot onto your leg. It works every time. Try it and see if I have explained it well enough? Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80) Date: 3/27/2008 2:50:26 PM To: jrushton; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention No - I would love to hear it! BERNARD BUTCHER From: jrushton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:39 PM To: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention Bernard, has anyone shown you how to put the socks on by first turning them wrong side out? Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80) Date: 3/27/2008 8:33:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention I also have this problem. I wear compression socks & they help. But they are a bear to get on & off BERNARD BUTCHER -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention > I also start the day out with thin ankles and end up with fat ones. My solution for the dependent edema- swelling caused by gravity and the lack of nerve control of the arteries and veins- is hanging upside down. I put in my ear-buds, turn on my ipod, and flip myself upside down for 30 minutes. Works great. F
Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Hi Jan, I am allergic to sulfa and many diuretics apparently contain sulfa (Thankfully I caught that while reading the prescription information that came with the prescription before I took any!!) I am supposed to be on something now called something like spironolactone. I took it one day and had some bowel trouble, but I don't know if it was related to that or not. I need to try it again before I go back to see the doctor. Barbara H. _http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com/) In a message dated 3/26/2008 10:10:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you take Lasix or any other diuretic? I take generic Lasix, and have since I was diagnosed.That keeps the retention problem in check with exceptions like having to stand a long time.as to your cellulitis, I'm not much help except to say that you should be sure to take the total bottle of pills, i.e., don't stop when you feel betterand I think your dr.'s suggestion to put your feet up is im- portant...it'll also help with retention problemNow, you have an excuse to let the housework go and get a good book! what a stroke of luck!!! Hope this clears up quickly! hugs, janh **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom000301)
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I don't walk but ankles will swell slightly when down for long periods of time (I elevate slightly) so my doctor put me on lasix once a day. Also because I use them I have to take that nasty, chalky potassium pill once a day. Ella in Ohio **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom000301)
Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Are you all thinkin what I am thinkin???
Yup thats right.YOU TUBE!
I am gonna need to see a You Tube video of you putting your socks on this way!
Then we can vote on a titleSocks gone wild? We could get Frank to do it
and call it "Frankinsocks".
Okay I am done now.
Sandy in Wisconsin where the wood box has been filled for the last time this
year and I mean it.
- Original Message -
From: jrushton
To: Butcher Bernard G (NY80) ; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Well, I learned this after the nurses in PT would battle daily with my
socks and then one day this little gal came in and whipped those old socks on
like a hoodathunkit!!
I hope I can explain it well...
Turn the sock completely inside out and then turn just the toe right
side out. Put the toe part over your own toes and then slide the sock right up
your foot onto your leg. It works every time. Try it and see if I have
explained it well enough? Jeanne
---Original Message---
From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80)
Date: 3/27/2008 2:50:26 PM
To: jrushton; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention
No - I would love to hear it!
BERNARD BUTCHER
From: jrushton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:39 PM
To: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Bernard, has anyone shown you how to put the socks on by first
turning them wrong side out?
Jeanne
---Original Message---
From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80)
Date: 3/27/2008 8:33:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention
I also have this problem. I wear compression socks & they help.
But they
are a bear to get on & off
BERNARD BUTCHER
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
> I also start the day out with thin ankles and end up with fat
ones.
My solution for the dependent edema- swelling caused by gravity
and the
lack of nerve control of the arteries and veins- is
hanging upside down. I put in my ear-buds, turn on my ipod, and
flip
myself upside down for 30 minutes.
Works great.
F
RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Well, I learned this after the nurses in PT would battle daily with my socks and then one day this little gal came in and whipped those old socks on like a hoodathunkit!! I hope I can explain it well... Turn the sock completely inside out and then turn just the toe right side out. Put the toe part over your own toes and then slide the sock right up your foot onto your leg. It works every time. Try it and see if I have explained it well enough? Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80) Date: 3/27/2008 2:50:26 PM To: jrushton; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention No - I would love to hear it! BERNARD BUTCHER From: jrushton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:39 PM To: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention Bernard, has anyone shown you how to put the socks on by first turning them wrong side out? Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80) Date: 3/27/2008 8:33:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention I also have this problem. I wear compression socks & they help. But they are a bear to get on & off BERNARD BUTCHER -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention > I also start the day out with thin ankles and end up with fat ones. My solution for the dependent edema- swelling caused by gravity and the lack of nerve control of the arteries and veins- is hanging upside down. I put in my ear-buds, turn on my ipod, and flip myself upside down for 30 minutes. Works great. F
RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention
No - I would love to hear it! BERNARD BUTCHER From: jrushton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:39 PM To: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention Bernard, has anyone shown you how to put the socks on by first turning them wrong side out? Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80) <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 3/27/2008 8:33:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention I also have this problem. I wear compression socks & they help. But they are a bear to get on & off BERNARD BUTCHER -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention > I also start the day out with thin ankles and end up with fat ones. My solution for the dependent edema- swelling caused by gravity and the lack of nerve control of the arteries and veins- is hanging upside down. I put in my ear-buds, turn on my ipod, and flip myself upside down for 30 minutes. Works great. F
Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Frank, I'd be so light-headed after hanging upside down I'd have to lay down the rest of the day. Are you harnessed in or what? How the heck do you hang upside down?? Also, my TM was said to be Idiopathic. So the fact that there was some stress and a slight cold a while prior to TM I'm sticking with the doctors diagnosis of Idiopathic. I'm sure that the doctors researching in Baltimore are aware of these symptoms as well. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention I also start the day out with thin ankles and end up with fat ones. My solution for the dependent edema- swelling caused by gravity and the lack of nerve control of the arteries and veins- is hanging upside down. I put in my ear-buds, turn on my ipod, and flip myself upside down for 30 minutes. Works great. F -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 8:52 AM
RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Bernard, has anyone shown you how to put the socks on by first turning them wrong side out? Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80) Date: 3/27/2008 8:33:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention I also have this problem. I wear compression socks & they help. But they are a bear to get on & off BERNARD BUTCHER -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention > I also start the day out with thin ankles and end up with fat ones. My solution for the dependent edema- swelling caused by gravity and the lack of nerve control of the arteries and veins- is hanging upside down. I put in my ear-buds, turn on my ipod, and flip myself upside down for 30 minutes. Works great. F
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Hi, Frank! You probably are helping your back in hanging upside down, also. Do you have one of those things (can't remember what they are called) where you hook your feet into and flip upside down? Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/27/2008 8:29:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention > I also start the day out with thin ankles and end > up with fat ones. My solution for the dependent edema- swelling caused by gravity and the lack of nerve control of the arteries and veins- is hanging upside down. I put in my ear-buds, turn on my ipod, and flip myself upside down for 30 minutes. Works great. F
RE: [TMIC] Fluid retention
I also have this problem. I wear compression socks & they help. But they are a bear to get on & off BERNARD BUTCHER -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention > I also start the day out with thin ankles and end up with fat ones. My solution for the dependent edema- swelling caused by gravity and the lack of nerve control of the arteries and veins- is hanging upside down. I put in my ear-buds, turn on my ipod, and flip myself upside down for 30 minutes. Works great. F
Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
> I also start the day out with thin ankles and end > up with fat ones. My solution for the dependent edema- swelling caused by gravity and the lack of nerve control of the arteries and veins- is hanging upside down. I put in my ear-buds, turn on my ipod, and flip myself upside down for 30 minutes. Works great. F
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Hi Linda, Cellulitis is a skin infection. The swollen ankles aren't a symptom of it but from what I understand it makes the skin there more susceptible to it. The Mayo Clinic site says: Introduction: Cellulitis (sel-u-LI-tis) is a common, potentially serious bacterial skin infection. Cellulitis appears as a swollen, red area of skin that feels hot and tender, and it may spread rapidly. Skin on lower legs is most commonly affected, though cellulitis can occur anywhere on your body or face. Infections on the face are more common in children and older adults. Cellulitis may affect only your skin's surface — or, cellulitis may also affect tissues underlying your skin and can spread to your lymph nodes and bloodstream. Left untreated, the spreading infection may rapidly turn life-threatening. That's why it's important to seek immediate medical attention if cellulitis symptoms occur. More information can be found here: _http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cellulitis/DS00450_ (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cellulitis/DS00450) Barbara H. from TMIC _http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com/) In a message dated 3/26/2008 6:40:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, What is cellulitis? I also start the day out with thin ankles and end up with fat ones. I find not eating any salty junk food and cutting way back on sodium helps. I also find if I can lay down for about an hour a day, seems to help. Linda in Pa **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301)
Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Hi, What is cellulitis? I also start the day out with thin ankles and end up with fat ones. I find not eating any salty junk food and cutting way back on sodium helps. I also find if I can lay down for about an hour a day, seems to help. Linda in Pa **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301)
Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
> > *Hi Barbara,* > *Whenever i wake up, my lower legs look like toothpicks, but by the end of the day, the ankles and knees are swollen tight. It's very uncomfortable.* ** *About the cellulitis---please be careful. Some years ago I had it in the orbit of my eye, and it spread to the bone and brain. It was touch and go for a while there and I ended up spending 11 days in Intensive Care. Make sure to finish all medication and if it doesn't seem to be responding, notify your doctor immediately. It can be pretty wicked if left unchecked.* *Gracie*
Re: [TMIC] Fluid retention
Do you take Lasix or any other diuretic? I take generic Lasix, and have since I was diagnosed.That keeps the retention problem in check with exceptions like having to stand a long time.as to your cellulitis, I'm not much help except to say that you should be sure to take the total bottle of pills, i.e., don't stop when you feel betterand I think your dr.'s suggestion to put your feet up is im- portant...it'll also help with retention problemNow, you have an excuse to let the housework go and get a good book! what a stroke of luck!!! Hope this clears up quickly! hugs, janh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else tend to retain fluid in their lower limbs? I seem to -- but it may be due to age/excess weight/lack of exercise. No doctor has been concerned about it til the one I just started seeing this past year (my previous doc left his practice). She wanted me to wear an ace bandage or support stockings, but my lower legs get so hot as it is I can't stand it. When I walk around the mall or Wal-Mart in the summer they get insufferably hot. Many people on the list have said they don't sweat below the area that was affected by TM, so I always attributed the legs getting overheated to that. I had a bout of cellulitis on one shin in Jan. after accidentally banging it on a shelf. I was put on Clindamycin and told to keep my leg elevated. I was also told to use the ace bandage, but after trying it the first time it seemed to make the redness worse. I thought it had mostly cleared up, but it came back at the end of last week. I am on Clindamycin again as well as Doxycyclin (sp?) and supposed to keep my leg up at least 20 minutes out of every hour. I am concerned because it seemed to cover more area and take a little longer to fade out than last time, but it is fading. Barbara H. http://barbarah.wordpress.com/ - Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home.
