Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] operating question about power-off
peterw;562006 Wrote:
> And don't expect much savings. Touch, and its screen, are very power
> efficient. With a USB hard drive attached, my Touch when "off" seems to
> draw about 2/3 of a watt less with the screen dark than with the black
> digital clock showing (~4.15w vs ~4.85w). Power use is less if I
> "eject" and unplug the USB drive (about 2.75w when off with the screen
> dark).
Have you tried with a drive that spins down when not used? Or doesn't
that work with the Touch ?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] operating question about power-off
JohnSwenson;561962 Wrote: > > If your reason for pushing the off button is to get into a low power > mode your best bet is to set the off screensaver to "screen off", this > will turn off the screen back light and stop anything playing. This > will be the lowest power state the Touch can be in. And don't expect much savings. Touch, and its screen, are very power efficient. With a USB hard drive attached, my Touch when "off" seems to draw about 2/3 of a watt less with the screen dark than with the black digital clock showing (~4.15w vs ~4.85w). Power use is less if I "eject" and unplug the USB drive (about 2.75w when off with the screen dark). -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80447 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Crash & reboot playing Radio Nigel HQ stream
Yes, thanks, I have no problem with the other Radio Nigel streams. I just wanted to air the problem with them "HQ" stream. No stream (not even random garbage or malicious data) should cause the Touch to crash IMO. -- Henry66 Henry66's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80438 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] operating question about power-off
First off, what are you expecting the power button to do? All it does is stop whatever is playing and invokes the "off" screensaver, which by default is the clock. It does not put the hardware into a "sleep" state that uses less power or any such thing. Just stopping the current playing song will cause the Touch to use less power. There has been a bug on this for quite a while with quite a bit of information. The latest info seems to be that under some circumstances when running the local server the internal clock does not get set. When the clock screensaver tries to start it notices that the clock is not set and won't bring up the clock display. If your reason for pushing the off button is to get into a low power mode your best bet is to set the off screensaver to "screen off", this will turn off the screen back light and stop anything playing. This will be the lowest power state the Touch can be in. If the reason for pushing the off button is to see the clock, you have to make sure the clock gets set. It gets unset when it reboots (powers up). If you have an internet connection it will try and connect to mysqueezebox.com from which it can set its clock. If you don't normally have an internet connection but can temporarily connect it you can do so and explicitly connect to mysqueezebox.com and the clock will get set. If you have no way to connect the Touch to the internet you will have to manually set the date and time. Unfortunately this is not easy. You have to use SSH to login to the Touch and use the linux date command to set the clock. You only have to do this once as long as the Touch doesn't reboot. Try setting the off screensaver to something other than a clock and see if it will come up when the power button is pressed. If it still does not come up there is something else going on and the developers will really want to know about it. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80447 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stops at end of song
Try pressing the rewind button bottom right, second up. -- Waldo Pepper Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80347 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] operating question about power-off
I have the same problem using a USB thumbdrive. The drive appears to be "alive" when powered off. -- Waldo Pepper Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80447 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch + NAS advantages?
woodnut;561861 Wrote: > > I am still a little unclear as to whether it is possible to do the flac > decoding on a sheevaplug, is this possible? > > Many thanks. Yes, running SBS on a sheevaplug can easily handle flac decoding. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80430 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Easy way to change network key??
That is good. I think the exception is when the receiver for the Duet is connected to the internet via cable (no wifi router used) - not sure what encryption the controller use for communicating with the receiver in such setup. -- Altec Altec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23276 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Easy way to change network key??
Altec;561930 Wrote: > Is all communication between controller and receiver (and Radio > etc.) encrypted via WPA2 (or whatever you use) Yes. Any/all devices connected via WiFi are using whatever encryption you have set. All SB players & controllers are communicating through your router, not directly to each other. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Easy way to change network key??
Thanks, you are being very helpful. Actually I don't know if all my devices in my network are WPS-compatible... my router is (totally forgot all about that button because my other hardwired router, same brand, has the same configuration menu). About the security issue - I was thinking about how easy it is to connect to the controller or receiver. Is all communication between controller and receiver (and Radio etc.) encrypted via WPA2 (or whatever you use). The PSK is stored in the units so I just want to be sure if it is secure there? Probably a stupid question because I am sure Logitech thought about that when they made these products... -- Altec Altec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23276 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Easy way to change network key??
If you have a WPS-aware router, it should be sufficient to press the "Connect" Button on your router and select Configure-by-WPS on the Touch/Radio/Controller. In this case, the router will send the WLAN parameters including the PSK (encrypted) to your SqueezeBox. Altec;561897 Wrote: > What about the security issue? Will Squeezebox products affect that? What kind of security issue do you mean? As long as WPA is properly implemented in the SqueezeBoxes, it should be safe. Of course, if a bad guy gets (physical) access to you SqueezeBox, he can read the PSK from the device. -- flattermann Christian Home of 'SqueezeCommander' (http://www.squeezecommander.com) - The SqueezeBox Remote Control App for Android flattermann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] operating question about power-off
seaco;561846 Wrote: > > If I connect and disconnect my usb HD several times, and squeezebox > server library(USB) will also update, then I press "Power" button, the > screen still on. Are you using the onscreen menus to tell Touch you want to unplug the hard drive each time? -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80447 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Easy way to change network key??
Thanks. You are probably right flattermann, WPA2 is much more secure than WEP so it shouldn't be necessary to changed it often (unless you think it could have been leaked somehow). Thanks peterw, I was looking for an easy way to change it through the controller (not completely sure I could follow your method without using too much time) otherwise I will just reenter the key - just real boring to do. If only I could transfer the key via a USB-memory stick - that would be easy. What about the security issue? Will Squeezebox products affect that? -- Altec Altec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23276 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Easy way to change network key??
peterw;561892 Wrote: > Thinking about this a bit more, I think the newer players (Radio and > Touch) may support WiFi Protected Setup (Logitech did ask Touch beta > testers to try the WPS feature). That wouldn't help with your Receiver, > but might be a good way to re-key your WLAN, including your Radio. Yeah, you are right. The Touch support WPS. I've not tried WPS on the Radio, but I think it should work with all SqueezePlay-based devices... -- flattermann Christian Home of 'SqueezeCommander' (http://www.squeezecommander.com) - The SqueezeBox Remote Control App for Android flattermann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Easy way to change network key??
Thinking about this a bit more, I think the newer players (Radio and Touch) may support WiFi Protected Setup (Logitech did ask Touch beta testers to try the WPS feature). That wouldn't help with your Receiver, but might be a good way to re-key your WLAN, including your Radio. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Where to get info on external hard disk showing usb compliant power consumption
Hi, we all know about the USB issues of the SB Touch regarding external hard disks and their power consumption during spin-up. There are a bunch of threads listing working and non-working devices, but I'm interested in the real startup (peak) current consumption of devices to find models compliant to USB spec (< 500mA). They will have to work for sure, right ? Up to now, I've found 2 websites which have started to provide such info in their reviews: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/storage/display/hdd-power-cons.html http://www.storagereview.com/ Does anyone know of further sites ? Toby PS: Do you know that state-of-the-art 128GB SSD disks violate the USB spec, too ? Not at startup, but during seq. write ! -- streumix streumix's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39267 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80451 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Crash & reboot playing Radio Nigel HQ stream
Henry66;561729 Wrote: > See http://www.radionigel.com > > I tried to listen to their "Window Media" stream, also known as their > "High Quality" stream, with the following URL: > mms://wm7.spacialnet.com/radionigel > > That stream is only 128k, same as their MP3 stream which comes up within the Touch > Internet Radio > Search > Nigel For me that stream has played for hours without issue. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80438 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Easy way to change network key??
Altec;560633 Wrote: > Hi, > > My Duet and Radio are both connected to my wireless router. I would > like to change my network key (63 random alpha-numeric characters) > relative often for security reasons, but I really don't want to reset > everything because it takes forever to change. I only want to change > the last few characters - it takes too long time to type in all the > characters. The controller doesn't allow changing just the network key > (as far as I can tell...). Any easy way to change it that I don't know > of? Thanks For the radio/controller, you can login via SSH and change the file /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf accordingly. Afterwards, change the WPA PSK on the router and restart the radio/controller to activate the new settings. -- flattermann Christian Home of 'SqueezeCommander' (http://www.squeezecommander.com) - The SqueezeBox Remote Control App for Android flattermann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Easy way to change network key??
Thanks to both of you and sorry for my late reply. That's a shame - it is recommended to change the network key from time to time, so it should be possible to do without knowing linux (not sure it would work if I tried). Logitech - you should change it if possible! What about security? I work from my home and I am concerned about leaking information. I can steam music from my computer, so how well is the network key protected in the Squeezebox units and is it now easier for someone to hack into my wifi network? -- Altec Altec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23276 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch + NAS advantages?
Hello and many thanks for your replies. I am using the SB Touch in standalone mode attached to a USB 1TB Toshiba external HDD. I go out the coaxial digital output to my DAC a Audio Synthesis Dax Decade. I believe that my system is revealing enough to show relatively small improvements in the SB Touch perfromance. The main reasons I mentioned the Sheeva plug that make it an attractive device to me are. - Looks to be reasonably priced - Small and unobtrusive - Quiet - There appears to be alot of helpful info on setting it up with SBS I would want to use my current HDD with the sheevaplug and just use my laptop to rip additional music as and when I buy it. I don't miss the use of the plugins and would only be interested in the Sheevaplug if it improves the sonic performance of the Touch by taking the processing away from the touch and performing it all on the sheevaplug. Perhaps as mentioned, the sonic benefits of an external server are not clear cut though and it may be a relatively pointless expense. I am still a little unclear as to whether it is possible to do the flac decoding on a sheevaplug, is this possible? Many thanks. -- woodnut woodnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80430 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] operating question about power-off
Hello, I have a question of "Display remains on after pressing power button". Most of time, I press "power" button, the screen gets into Digital clock. If I connect and disconnect my usb HD several times, and squeezebox server library(USB) will also update, then I press "Power" button, the screen still on. I have updated my touch into ver7.5.1 and everytime I found this situation I will restore factory setting. After resting, screen display digital clock is quite normal, but after several times of USB HD lib connection, the power button won't make screen in digital clock screensaver. My Touch will never sleep, I have to unplug power line. What should I do, I seldom see other fans with this case. 1.Should I double check screensaver setting ? 2.reset button in the back helps me? 3.I am tired of restore factory setting, cause everytime I reset, I have to update again and modify asia fonts to see my music tag. Please help me. -- seaco seaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80447 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Musicm8 and Touch
i emailed them yesterday - bit annoyed as I would have thought it fairly basic to just update the squeezecenter software moving forward didn't realise how closed this wsa going to be - I just epxected the basics to work afterall it says plug and play not plug and play if you want to live 12 months behind everything else was going to buy a nas but just thought this would be better for my lounge bacause of the rip drive now regretting it! -- matengawhat matengawhat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80440 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
