Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-14 Thread Peter314

You cycle through them by touching the screen. Did you have something
more techie in mind..?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-14 Thread Mr_Sukebe

aubuti;532968 Wrote: 
> There are five "Now Playing" screens on the Touch, and you can cycle
> among them, or leave it at the one you like. 
> 
> 1) cover art and basic info (artist, album, track)
> 2) cover art only
> 3) basic info only
> 4) "spectrum analyzer" VU meters
> 5) dual analog VU meters
> 
> In the future it may be possible to limit the NP screens that are
> cycled to fewer than 5, but not at present. Search on these forums and
> I'm sure you'll find photos of the different screens that were posted
> during the Touch's beta test phase.

I'm clearly feeling a bit thick.  I tried to find those options
yesterday and couldn't see them anywhere.
Can you please advise the path for them?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-13 Thread mcullinan

The largest font is too small. I'm 42 a very old dude. :)
hopefully the touch will have senior citizen mode soon!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-12 Thread bonze

JohnSwenson;532972 Wrote: 
> In addition to the no artwork mode there are two sizes, referred to as
> small/large, or touch/remote or 3/10. The small size is used when you
> touch the screen, it has smaller text and buttons. The larger size is
> used when you use the IR remote, it has larger text and no buttons. The
> 3/10 means 3ft or 10ft, the distance that mode was designed for. Thus if
> your Touch is much greater than 10ft away even the larger size may be
> too small. Its a little bit smaller than the largest font on the SB3. 
> 
> In my case the rack is about 15ft away and the largest SB3 font is just
> big enough, but the "10" Touch font is just a little too small for
> comfort. If you are in this situation some form of controller with a
> local screen might be best. I'm going to use second Touch for that!
> 
> John S.

I could do with a 3/5 mode, as the touch will be on a bedside cabinet.
So the 10 text is too large :D


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-12 Thread Alco

> The elapsed and remaining time are always on the Now Playing screen
I know John, but in the NP screen the time-bar is so teenyweeny small.

If the Touch doesn't even show track nr. and it's not possible to
customize the info size, I'm getting less tempted to take the step from
SB3 to the Touch. :(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-12 Thread didbox

Voted!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-11 Thread Phil Leigh

JJZolx;533179 Wrote: 
> Not that I'm aware of.  I don't recall anyone during the beta saying
> anything about the text on the NP display, so I expect most people are
> fine with it the way it is.  I also get the distinct impression that
> Logitech isn't interested in providing options to the extent given to
> the pre-SqueezePlay based players.

OK - I'll add one and maybe anyone who IS interested can vote for it...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-11 Thread JJZolx

Phil Leigh;533168 Wrote: 
> Is there an open ER for TinySC on this? I couldn't find one...

Not that I'm aware of.  I don't recall anyone during the beta saying
anything about the text on the NP display, so I expect most people are
fine with it the way it is.  I also get the distinct impression that
Logitech isn't interested in providing options to the extent given to
the pre-SqueezePlay based players.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-11 Thread Phil Leigh

JJZolx;533138 Wrote: 
> It's not configurable.  Maybe it's possible through a custom
> screensaver, as John suggested for your other question about the VU
> meters.

JJ - Is there an open ER for TinySC on this? I couldn't find one...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-11 Thread didbox

JJZolx;533138 Wrote: 
> It's not configurable.  Maybe it's possible through a custom
> screensaver, as John suggested for your other question about the VU
> meters.

I hope that in a near future Logitech will add the possibility to
customize these 3 lines at the level of Player options in the
Squeezebox server settings...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-11 Thread JJZolx

didbox;533134 Wrote: 
> I'm looking for a way to customize the title format in the Now playing
> screen, with, for example:
> Line 1: DISC-TRACKNUM. TITLE (EXT/BITRATE bps)
> Line 2: ARTIST (COMPOSER)
> Line 3: ALBUM

It's not configurable.  Maybe it's possible through a custom
screensaver, as John suggested for your other question about the VU
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-11 Thread didbox

Hello JJZolx,

Thank you for your answer!

I use SB Touch connected to a Squeezebox server running on a ReadyNAS
Pro. 

I'm looking for a way to customize the title format in the Now playing
screen, with, for example:
Line 1: DISC-TRACKNUM. TITLE (EXT/BITRATE bps)
Line 2: ARTIST (COMPOSER)
Line 3: ALBUM


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-11 Thread JJZolx

didbox;533119 Wrote: 
> Is it still possible, like with the SB3, to customize the title format?
> With my SB3, I use the following title format:
> DISC-TRACKNUM. TITLE (COMPOSER) ~ ARTIST ~ ALBUM (EXT/BITRATE bps)

It depends on what you're talking about.  Do you mean using the
built-in Squeezebox server or using a Squeezebox Server running
elsewhere?  And do you mean the title formats shown on the Touch or on
other players?

Using the built-in server you can still set different title formats for
other players such as the SB3, but you're stuck with the predefined
formats and can't create custom formats.  The formats have to be set
from the players' remote interface since the built-in server has no web
interface.

The custom title formats have no real use in the Now Playing screens on
the Touch itself, as the main NP screens all display track title, artist
and album, with no ability to customize it.  The 'artwork+text' and
'text only' NP screens look a lot like the Now Playing area in the
default web skin, with TITLE, ARTIST and ALBUM displayed on three
lines.

The most limited are the title formats shown on the Touch when using
the built-in server.  You get TITLE and nothing else, not even track
numbers, when looking at the track list of an album.  In the Current
Playlist you see TITLE on one line, then ARTIST - ALBUM on a second
line and it's not configurable.

A couple of things may be customizable if you enable remote logins,
then use an SSH client to SSH into the operating system and edit the
server preferences file.  I expect many people will want to do this and
expect it to be pretty painful for anyone attempting to walk them
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread didbox

Hello,

Is it still possible, like with the SB3, to customize the title format?
With my SB3, I use the following title format:
DISC-TRACKNUM. TITLE (COMPOSER) ~ ARTIST ~ ALBUM (EXT/BITRATE bps)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread peterw

JohnSwenson;533048 Wrote: 
> If you are in Touch mode (the buttons are visible) you can touch the top
> bar which gives you a menu from which you can every bit of information
> the database has on that song. I haven't figured out how you do that in
> "remote" mode though

Press the +/More button. Scroll down through the context menu. Basic
info is on the first context menu, and you can select the "More info"
option to get more details. There's even a "View tags" option that
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread JohnSwenson

R Johnson;533010 Wrote: 
> While a bit off topic, I was wondering if the display info does (or
> could) include some of the 'extra' embedded information in files, such
> as the 'Comments' or 'Composer' fields that iTunes provides...

If you are in Touch mode (the buttons are visible) you can touch the
top bar which gives you a menu from which you can every bit of
information the database has on that song. I haven't figured out how
you do that in "remote" mode though. 

This menu can show you everything that is in the tags for the song. I
don't use iTunes so I don't know if it stores info not in the tags, and
if it does if SBS can get at that info. Others that use iTunes will have
to answer that one.

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread JohnSwenson

Alco;532970 Wrote: 
> Thanks for the quick response, Aubuti.
> 
> I also hope I can see the elapsed and remaining time on the display, by
> pushing/holding the >>| button on the remote for about 3 seconds. (like
> on the SB3)

The elapsed and remaining time are always on the Now Playing screen
(unless you are in artwork only mode). It has a bar with a pointer
representing the position in the song as well as numbers on the right
and left. BUT they are pretty small numbers, even in the "10 ft" mode.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread R Johnson

While a bit off topic, I was wondering if the display info does (or
could) include some of the 'extra' embedded information in files, such
as the 'Comments' or 'Composer' fields that iTunes provides...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread Alco

Whoopssorry, I meant 3,5 meters to be >10 feet. (instead of 30)

Ok, I'll just try it as it is. Luckily there's a Logitech dealer in my
area who will hopefully have the Touch in stock pretty soon, so I can
try before I buy. :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread R Johnson

Alco;532983 Wrote: 
> ...Currently I sit about 3,5 meters (>30 feet ?) from my SB Classic,
> when I liston to music. 
3,5 meters ~= 11,5 feet (3.5 m ~= 11.5 ft)  
The "10 foot" size might work for you. 
I expect to use a Touch from about that distance.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread Alco

> Its a little bit smaller than the largest font on the SB3. 
> 
> In my case the rack is about 15ft away and the largest SB3 font is just
> big enough, but the "10" Touch font is just a little too small for
> comfort. If you are in this situation some form of controller with a
> local screen might be best

Thank you very much John. That was the info I was looking for. 
(although I was hoping for something else, as it seems I now have a get
a controller or Ipod Touch as well, to be able to use a Touch)

Currently I sit about 3,5 meters (>30 feet ?) from my SB Classic, when
I liston to music.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread JohnSwenson

In addition to the no artwork mode there are two sizes, referred to as
small/large, or touch/remote or 3/10. The small size is used when you
touch the screen, it has smaller text and buttons. The larger size is
used when you use the IR remote, it has larger text and no buttons. The
3/10 means 3ft or 10ft, the distance that mode was designed for. Thus if
your Touch is much greater than 10ft away even the larger size may be
too small. Its a little bit smaller than the largest font on the SB3. 

In my case the rack is about 15ft away and the largest SB3 font is just
big enough, but the "10" Touch font is just a little too small for
comfort. If you are in this situation some form of controller with a
local screen might be best. I'm going to use second Touch for that!

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread Alco

Thanks for the quick response, Aubuti.

I also hope I can see the elapsed and remaining time on the Touch's
display, by pushing/holding the >>| button on the remote for about 3
seconds. (like on the SB3)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread aubuti

There are five "Now Playing" screens on the Touch, and you can cycle
among them, or leave it at the one you like. 

1) cover art and basic info (artist, album, track)
2) cover art only
3) basic info only
4) "spectrum analyzer" VU meters
5) dual analog VU meters

In the future it may be possible to limit the NP screens that are
cycled to fewer than 5, but not at present. Search on these forums and
I'm sure you'll find photos of the different screens that were posted
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[SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size

2010-04-10 Thread Alco

Hi y'all,

I have a SB Classic and I'm considering going for the SB Touch.
Still, I'm wondering this:

Is it possible not to choose album cover-art to show in the display ?
I mean is it possible to disable cover art and therefor use the whole
width of the display and choose a larger character size ?

I always have the character size on my SB3 display set on large,
otherwise I can't read the info on the display from a few meters
distance.
If it's not possible to change characte size on the Touch, I'd be more
or less forced to buy a Controller as well. (or get an Ipod, to use as
remote)

regards,
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