Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-26 Thread aubuti

toby10;614030 Wrote: 
> But again, that is actually in the Touch not on the USB or SD, correct?
> Sure would be a lot easier to update favorites if it were simply
> transferable as opml onto the storage devices.  :(
Yes, it's on the Touch. But as Mnyb says, it is easy to copy using scp
or WinSCP once you know where it is.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-26 Thread Mnyb

toby10;614030 Wrote: 
> Thanks aubuti,
> But again, that is actually in the Touch not on the USB or SD,
> correct?
> Sure would be a lot easier to update favorites if it were simply
> transferable as opml onto the storage devices.  :(

You can copy with spc once you figured where it is..

I do stay away from tiny sbc...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-26 Thread toby10

aubuti;613952 Wrote: 
> TinySBS stores favorites.opml on the Touch's internal filesystem. I
> forget the exact path. 
> 
> Re the 100 item limit on TinySBS playlists, I would guess that it
> wouldn't be a big issue in Ikabob's case, in which each item is a radio
> station URL as opposed to a single track.
> 
> EDIT: TinySBS keeps Favorites in
> /etc/squeezecenter/prefs/favorites.opml. That's also where you'll find
> server.prefs and other prefs.

Thanks aubuti,
But again, that is actually in the Touch not on the USB or SD,
correct?
Sure would be a lot easier to update favorites if it were simply
transferable as opml onto the storage devices.  :(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-26 Thread Ikabob

Thanks for all the suggestions. Yes, you are right, my playlists do not
normally approach 100 entries.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-26 Thread aubuti

TinySBS stores favorites.opml on the Touch's internal filesystem. I
forget the exact path. 

Re the 100 item limit on TinySBS playlists, I would guess that it
wouldn't be a big issue in Ikabob's case, in which each item is a radio
station URL as opposed to a single track.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-26 Thread toby10

Mnyb and aubuti,
Do you know where/how TinySC stores it's URL based Favorites?  There is
no Favorites folder nor OPML file when I look on my SD card.
Yet somehow TinySC picked up my Favorites Folders and sub-Folders
(guessing from SBS) at some point.  
But this is an outdated list and has been updated since on both SBS and
MySB, yet TinySC still lists folders & urls that I have long since
discarded.

Ikabob,
Another oddity of TinySC (at least on mine) is when I go to Favorites,
it lists the above mentioned outdated Favorites, but also shows "On
MySB.com" 5 times? 
Four of these are empty, only one ever actually shows my real MySB >
Favorites.
I'm guessing these empty folders are again getting picked up by TinySC
somehow and just won't let them go.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-25 Thread Mnyb

Ok playlist with Radio stations ? Wonder what Tiny SBS does then ?

Also important I just remember one limitation that going to spoil this
project.

Tiny SBS is limited 100 songs playlist, due to it's puny cpu, and also
sbs playlist handling where juggling a simple text file has becomme a
database operation ?

I would load 7.6 on to it. SBS had for a while a severe db bug that
practically killed performance on smaller cpu machines, dont know if it
fixed in 7.5.4 ? So 7.6 beta .

Then i would hack the server.prefs file wherever it hides on the Touch
to take larger playlists, I would experiment and test what works
nowdays.
Also some of the most iritating language bugs have been fixed in 7.6 .

But the lost of web-UI and plugins ? And the performance I dont see
running the server on Touch as a practical option if you have a large
collection.
And especially iif you have multiple players.

Must be better for all if the original bug was adressed instead.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-25 Thread Mnyb

On topic try keep  to collections internal file and folder structure the
same.
Then create a smal playlist with Tiny SBS( when you have scanned the
files).

>From that playlist you can learn two things.

Where it is, it's here you are going to place your old plalists.

Open the playlist with wordpad or similar text editor.

Then you see the file path for the songs you selected in your test
playlist.
Now it will be obvius how you should modify the file path in your old
playlists.

Use search and replace all in your text editor, done .

Hopefully this works and Tiny SBS will happily scan playlist not done
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-25 Thread aubuti

Afaik that's still true.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-25 Thread Mnyb

Is it not so that Tiny SBS does no do " radio" localy as a full version
of SBS do? Is not the Touch automagically turned over to mysb.com for
such duties, it migth have changed and i'm wrong abiut it now.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-25 Thread aubuti

Sure. Switching between servers (SBS, TinySBS, mysb.com) is pretty easy,
but if TinySBS will do everything for you then you can even save that
extra little step.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-25 Thread Ikabob

Thank youI think I'll try the msb.com favorites ideabut I like
using SBS because other music only service playlists do not cause a
crash. Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-25 Thread aubuti

That's pretty strange, but TinySBS may help you. Another possibility is
to put those stations on your Favorites list at mysb.com and connect
the Touch to mysb.com instead of SBS or TinySBS.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-25 Thread Ikabob

Thank you Aubuti. The main reason I am shutting off the pc is that there
are times when I have a large playlist of radio stations and I choose
one specific station (usually WOR???or WGN???)and for some reason it
crashes the SBS on my pc. I then have to go all the way down to the
basement and reboot SBS.  So far this does not happen on Tiny SBS. It's
like a radio station overloads one of the ports because when I check SBS
Control Panel, 2 of the ports are labeled "failed". I checked firewalls
and it checks out ok. So, that is why I may change to TinyI'd
rather not.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-25 Thread aubuti

Unlike regular SBS, there is no place in TinySBS to specify the location
of the music folder and playlist folder. TinySBS just scans the entire
USB drive (or SD card) that is attached to the Touch. Anything it
recognizes as an audio file gets added to the library. I presume that
anything it recognizes as a playlist file (*.m3u) gets added to the
list of playlists -- but I haven't tested that to confirm.

There are some things you definitely lose with TinySBS, including:
- ability to control it via the web ui
- ability to transcode
- support for the old SliMP3 and SB1 players (though I doubt you have
those)
- support for plugins

The other main thing you may lose with TinySBS is stability. It works
fine for some people, but is a nightmare for others. It will definitely
be slower to scan your library. And if your current arrangement has your
server outside your listening room, you lose that convenience as well.
The TinySBS itself is silent, but if your library is on a USB drive you
will have a whirring hard drive in your listening room. USB drives can
be very quiet, but they are not silent unless they're solid state.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] How can I easily transfer playlists to Tiny SBS?

2011-02-25 Thread Ikabob

I am going to turn my pc off and try using Tiny SBS only. I have many
saved playlists on pc SBS. Is there a way that I can copy and paste
those playlists over to Tiny? If you could be specific because I am not
a computer whiz I would appreciate it. Also, will I lose a lot by using
Tiny instead of Pc? Thank you .


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