Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-23 Thread foxx

Thanks for that John. Got it working.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-22 Thread JohnSwenson

foxx;539200 Wrote: 
> 
> 
> Also a question to the experts. I had read earlier that the Touch would
> make a USB drive available on the home network. So far I have not been
> able to figure out how this works. Any suggestions?

USB sharing is turned on by:

settings>advanced/USB and SD Storage
Click on Sharing>Enable Sharing.

You should then see the drive under windows IF your workgroup is
WORKGROUP. If your workgroup is a different name you have to change the
Touch workgroup which is a bit more complicated.

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-22 Thread foxx

Just got my Touch yesterday and set it up using a 500GB CN Memory USB
drive.
It scanned and even PLAYED music which I didn't figure to be on the
drive at all. It had been deleted long ago. Only after formatting the
drive and recopying my current music to it, it was gone.
The touch obiously doesen't care for virtual order. It scans what is
physically available. It was kind of spooky listening to music and
seeing cover art, which I wasn't even aware of owning.

Also a question to the experts. I had read earlier that the Touch would
make a USB drive available on the home network. So far I have not been
able to figure out how this works. Any suggestions?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-22 Thread JohnSwenson

mikkeldaase;538807 Wrote: 
> Ok,
> but would you have to do a rescan like that everytime you added new
> songs? It wont just add to the allready established library, or let you
> add to it manually?
> 
> mikkel

What is supposed to happen is that after the initial scan is complete
subsequent drive attachments start a quick scan where it is just
comparing date and time of the files against the database, this is much
faster than a full scan. Of course it will take longer to check the
dates on 50,000 files than it will on 10,000 files, but its much faster
than a full scan. If it finds and new or updated audio files it will
scan just those files. 

Unfortunately I think some people are having a situation where the
initial scan fails for some reason leaving a corrupted database on the
disk. Thus at the next attachment it can't do the quick scan and has to
start over again.

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-22 Thread mikkeldaase

Gomez;538809 Wrote: 
> Currently using a Samsung s2 500gb 2.5 external bus powered off the
> touch, with 400gb of flacs, working great at the moment goes to sleep
> after 5 mins idle very quiet.
> (that's probably jinxed it)


That's interesting, and very promising:)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-22 Thread Gomez

Currently using a Samsung s2 500gb 2.5 external bus powered off the
touch, with 400gb of flacs, working great at the moment goes to sleep
after 5 mins idle very quiet.
(that's probably jinxed it)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-22 Thread mikkeldaase

krochat;538162 Wrote: 
> My experience was 2 minutes to rescan a drive with 3400 files, 90
> minutes to rescan a drive with 38000 files. It's obviously not linear
> with the number of files. While you can play music during the rescan,
> the UI is pretty sluggish.
> 
> Kim

Ok,
but would you have to do a rescan like that everytime you added new
songs? It wont just add to the allready established library, or let you
add to it manually?

mikkel


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread SteveEast

Covenant;538082 Wrote: 
> Thats useful. At the start of the list is says:
> The following devices have been tested with Fab4
> What does that mean?

Fab4 was the code name for the Touch.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread krochat

toby10;538155 Wrote: 
> I thought re-scans went pretty quick when swapping drives? Supposed to
> just look for new music on a re-scan, no?

My experience was 2 minutes to rescan a drive with 3400 files, 90
minutes to rescan a drive with 38000 files. It's obviously not linear
with the number of files. While you can play music during the rescan,
the UI is pretty sluggish.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread mikkeldaase

krochat;538136 Wrote: 
> Sure, there are just lots of caveats:
> 
> 1) Don't use Hi-Rez material - no higher than CD quality.
> (because tinySC will stutter on hi-rez at default compression)
> 2) Don't have more than 10,000 files or so on the disk 
> (because initial scan and rescan times can be long)
> 3) Don't plan on swapping disks 
> (because rescan times can be long)
> 4) Don't use high FLAC compression levels 
> (the default of -5 works OK with CD quality material).
> 5) Playlists can't have more than 100 entries
> 6) If using a 2.5" USB hard drive, make sure it has adequate power.
> 7) There may still be a problem/bug with artwork disappearing - it
> works for some folks.


Thanks for your swift reply:)

1,3,4,5,6,7 aint big issues (for me) - but the 10 000 files thing
bothers me a bit. A long initial scan i can live with, but what "times"
are we talking about for rescans after adding new files?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread toby10

krochat;538136 Wrote: 
> .
> 3) Don't plan on swapping disks 
> (because rescan times can be long)
> 

I thought re-scans went pretty quick when swapping drives?
Supposed to just look for new music on a re-scan, no?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread krochat

mikkeldaase;538131 Wrote: 
> Are there any reports of squeezebox touch working properly with a usb
> harddisk as the sole music source?

Sure, there are just lots of caveats:

1) Don't use Hi-Rez material - no higher than CD quality.
(because tinySC will stutter on hi-rez at default compression)
2) Don't have more than 10,000 files or so on the disk 
(because initial scan and rescan times can be long)
3) Don't plan on swapping disks 
(because rescan times can be long)
4) Don't use high FLAC compression levels 
(the default of -5 works OK with CD quality material).
5) Playlists can't have more than 100 entries
6) If using a 2.5" USB hard drive, make sure it has adequate power.
7) There may still be a problem/bug with artwork disappearing - it
works for some folks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread iPhone

mikkeldaase;538131 Wrote: 
> So,
> I have been waiting for the touch but have been seriously discouraged
> by the responses at the forum regarding USB Harddisks.
> 
> Are there any reports of squeezebox touch working properly with a usb
> harddisk as the sole music source?

Hello and Welcome to the Forum.

To answer your question there are plenty of both, that is USB drives
that work and people using it as the sole source.

I for example am listening to a 2TB Seagate USB drive on my Touch which
is feeding music to a Boom, SB3, SB Radio, Duet and of course the
Touch.

As for drives, I have successfully used a Toshiba 320GB, 500GB, and
640GB USB pocket drives (these are USB powered drives, no external
power). The 2TB Seagate and a 1TB WD MyBook both external powered USB
drives.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread JJZolx

mikkeldaase;538131 Wrote: 
> Are there any reports of squeezebox touch working properly with a usb
> harddisk as the sole music source?

Define 'properly'...  What are you asking?  If anybody has a disk that
works, or if the server works as expected?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread mikkeldaase

So,
I have been waiting for the touch but have been seriously discouraged
by the responses at the forum regarding USB Harddisks.

Are there any reports of squeezebox touch working properly with a usb
harddisk as the sole music source?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread Mnyb

toby10;538118 Wrote: 
> Finger prints on the screen.   ;)

But I got a nice polishing cloth with it ;)

I better go polish my Touch now..

Hmm might not supply peanuts or nachos on my next party, then I have to
put it in the dishes ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread toby10

usch;538099 Wrote: 
> I guess that means you could operate the Touch with a mouse and a
> keyboard instead of the touchscreen. Not sure why anybody would want to
> do that, but if it is easily implemented, why not have the option?

Finger prints on the screen.   ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread usch

I guess that means you could operate the Touch with a mouse and a
keyboard instead of the touchscreen. Not sure why anybody would want to
do that, but if it is easily implemented, why not have the option?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread JJZolx

pounce;538087 Wrote: 
> I'm confused about seeing mice and keyboards on this list.

It was originally drawn up as a _USB_ device compatibility list. 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread pounce

Thanks.

I'm confused about seeing mice and keyboards on this list.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread SteveEast

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_-_USB_Compatibility

has a growing list of what works and what doesn't.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread pounce

Is there a list of drives that have been tested or can we start a wiki
for drives indicating what works and what doesn't?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread pounce

Is there a list of drives that have been tested or can we start a wiki
for drives indicating what works and what doesn't?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch

2010-04-20 Thread MickeyG

Sorry, that was not one that I tested.

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