Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
Francois, could you just open main page of that resource and read? It's not something new. It's just a front-end to twsocket@elists.org. It even doesn't use accounts from mail list - user must register separately. Just a damn simple front-end to make life easier. Of course, you're the overlord and everything about ICS is in your hands but I really don't see any reason to reject it. -- A.S.. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
I would loose control on the group Loose control in what sense? My understanding is that the nabble service will just archive the mailling list, and preset it in a forum alike manner. Similar, but better, to the already available here http://www.archivum.info/twsocket@elists.org/ And in systems such as Google groups (and all the others, I suppose) you can set it up to moderate all the post, and new users registration. From the email interface work exactly as with the elists, but has a better web interface. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
As I already said a lot of times in the past, I don't want a newsgroup because I would loose control on the group. Subject closed. francois.pie...@overbyte.be The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
Guys, I know most of you are fond of newsgroups and all that stuff, but no one tells you to stop using them. The resource I've found provides an additional forum-like interface for the maillist, with no efforts for the admins excepting first-time registration. You may continue using what you like while other people like me who are incompatible with newsgroubs could use what they like. P.S. It also saves from wrong topics and replying from other mail account what happens to me quite often. -- Anton -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
When time allows I'll have to find a final solution with or without Live Mail. Try Thunderbird. Simple, full featured, and with plenty of add-ons (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/) to extend it further. And, as developer, you can create your own extensions ;-) -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
Francois PIETTE wrote: Since Win7 there's no mail reader available, shame on MS. > >>> Not exactly, the good old Outlook Express has been renamed "Windows >>> Live Mail". It has a new "ribon tool bar" and slightly different >>> folder treeview, but it is still Outlook Express and it is still >>> free. Not delivered with Win7 itself, you have to download it. It is >>> able to import email from previous versions. > >> Does it actually include plain SMTP and NNTP? I had the impression >> from the description that it is only some kind of strange webmail >> client with built-in spy. > > Bad impression. It support standard SMTP, POP3 and IMAP4 with same > features as always. Installed now, I see. However the ribbon and stuff I'll never use makes it hard to use (at least for me). For old school users the GUI is simply not intuitive, ribbons just look shiny, that's all what they provide IMO :( I have a rock solid mail environment with an anti-spam pop3 proxy, switching to Live Mail will probably cost me days until I can be sure that I'm as safe as now (without having to run a background AV scanner). When time allows I'll have to find a final solution with or without Live Mail. -- Arno Garrels -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
On 8/6/2011 11:37 AM, Arno Garrels wrote: Francois PIETTE wrote: Not exactly, the good old Outlook Express has been renamed "Windows Live Mail". It has a new "ribon tool bar" and slightly different folder treeview, but it is still Outlook Express and it is still free. Not delivered with Win7 itself, you have to download it. It is able to import email from previous versions. Does it actually include plain SMTP and NNTP? I had the impression from the description that it is only some kind of strange webmail client with built-in spy. Fortunately there's the free Thunderbird for SMTP and NNTP available as well. After using OE for ages, I tried both Windows Live Mail and Thunderbird for a while. I settled on Thunderbird because it retains more of the elements from OE that I liked, along with some nice additions like tabs and more settings that apply to individual accounts instead of global. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
Since Win7 there's no mail reader available, shame on MS. Not exactly, the good old Outlook Express has been renamed "Windows Live Mail". It has a new "ribon tool bar" and slightly different folder treeview, but it is still Outlook Express and it is still free. Not delivered with Win7 itself, you have to download it. It is able to import email from previous versions. Does it actually include plain SMTP and NNTP? I had the impression from the description that it is only some kind of strange webmail client with built-in spy. Bad impression. It support standard SMTP, POP3 and IMAP4 with same features as always. I'm writing this message using it and the message will go out using SMTP. I read your message thru my POP3 account. -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
Francois PIETTE wrote: >> Since Win7 there's no mail reader available, shame on MS. > > Not exactly, the good old Outlook Express has been renamed "Windows > Live Mail". It has a new "ribon tool bar" and slightly different > folder treeview, but it is still Outlook Express and it is still > free. Not delivered with Win7 itself, you have to download it. It is > able to import email from previous versions. Does it actually include plain SMTP and NNTP? I had the impression from the description that it is only some kind of strange webmail client with built-in spy. Fortunately there's the free Thunderbird for SMTP and NNTP available as well. -- Arno Garrels -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
>>>>that is now 25 years old and precedes the internet Hardly, FIDO BBS did not exist before 1981, The Internet (as we call it today) was "started" in 1969. It's just most of the public did not have access to it. You either had to have a dial-up (300 baud mind you!) shell account on a Unix box with one of the first "ISP"s or have a student/teacher account with one of the few Universities that were "wired" to access it. This was way before the WWW and everything was text based, no GUIs here. Been there, Done that, Got the T shirt. -Original Message- From: twsocket-boun...@elists.org [mailto:twsocket-boun...@elists.org] On Behalf Of Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 4:06 AM To: twsocket@elists.org Subject: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list > > My 17 year old client does both, and private conferencing: > > > > http://cixonline.com/read_offline.asp > > Looks nice, however I prefer to not pay for something that should be > part of the OS. The software is actually free, it's the conferencing server that costs, and that is now 25 years old and precedes the internet, it started as a FIDO BBS. The point was threading has been common for decades Angus -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
> > My 17 year old client does both, and private conferencing: > > > > http://cixonline.com/read_offline.asp > > Looks nice, however I prefer to not pay for something that should > be part of the OS. The software is actually free, it's the conferencing server that costs, and that is now 25 years old and precedes the internet, it started as a FIDO BBS. The point was threading has been common for decades Angus -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
Since Win7 there's no mail reader available, shame on MS. Not exactly, the good old Outlook Express has been renamed "Windows Live Mail". It has a new "ribon tool bar" and slightly different folder treeview, but it is still Outlook Express and it is still free. Not delivered with Win7 itself, you have to download it. It is able to import email from previous versions. -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
AFAIK Windows Live suite has a mail reader (newer OE) in it for free. Regards, SZ On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 22:02, Arno Garrels wrote: > Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: > >> There are mail readers available capable to sort mails by threads > >> AFAIK. > > > > Do you mean people actually use email readers that don't sort by > > subjects and replies? > > Sure, I am such an example, I still use OE (old fashioned, got > socialized with it :) > > > >> My personal favourites are: > >> #1 Newsgroup > >> #2 Mailinglist > > > > My 17 year old client does both, and private conferencing: > > > > http://cixonline.com/read_offline.asp > > Looks nice, however I prefer to not pay for something that should > be part of the OS. Since Win7 there's no mail reader available, > shame on MS. > > > > > Major bonus is it displays HTML email as text, so no viruses. > > That's no problem with OE as well. Just change the defaults. > > -- > Arno Garrels > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: >> There are mail readers available capable to sort mails by threads >> AFAIK. > > Do you mean people actually use email readers that don't sort by > subjects and replies? Sure, I am such an example, I still use OE (old fashioned, got socialized with it :) > >> My personal favourites are: >> #1 Newsgroup >> #2 Mailinglist > > My 17 year old client does both, and private conferencing: > > http://cixonline.com/read_offline.asp Looks nice, however I prefer to not pay for something that should be part of the OS. Since Win7 there's no mail reader available, shame on MS. > > Major bonus is it displays HTML email as text, so no viruses. That's no problem with OE as well. Just change the defaults. -- Arno Garrels -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
> There are mail readers available capable to sort mails by threads > AFAIK. Do you mean people actually use email readers that don't sort by subjects and replies? > My personal favourites are: > #1 Newsgroup > #2 Mailinglist My 17 year old client does both, and private conferencing: http://cixonline.com/read_offline.asp Major bonus is it displays HTML email as text, so no viruses. Angus -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] [OT] Nice forum engine based on the mailing list
Anton S. wrote: > I just found a nice thing at http://www.nabble.com/. It provides > forum-like interface based on the mailing list. I find it much more > useful than mail archives especially if you want to read complete > conversation. Would be awesome if ICS list is accessible via this > site. There are mail readers available capable to sort mails by threads AFAIK. My personal favourites are: #1 Newsgroup #2 Mailinglist .. long time nothing followed by HTTP forums (only if I'm forced to use them). -- Arno Garrels -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
