Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Radio Advertising

2008-12-16 Thread Bret Fledderjohn
Hi Warren,

I don't think that there is anything out there yet.  But stay tuned, because
it sounds like Chris will be getting this together! It's pretty exciting
stuff.



2008/12/16 Warren W 

> sorry to intrude but i am hosting a free DAB station over the med and iwas
> wondering if there where any "such" radio ads? as i will soon team up with a
> couple of local (fm) radios in malta and transmit from the maltese islands
> as far as sicily and libya so where can i get the work/ideas and then i
> could modify them into local language? asmall isda ofa very outdated (server
> had crashed "short circut from a power surge on the island")
>  is www.linuxmalta.tk or malta loco team
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:04 AM, Bret Fledderjohn  > wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry, I'm kinda doing a stream of consciousness thing here, and I'm
>> top posting more than I should... :-)
>>
>> What type of audience is it? We need to know that in order to craft a
>> message that will appeal to them.  If they are tech saavy, obviously, the
>> script will need to be a much different message than if they are not.  Also
>> if they are generally familar with OSS and Linux that is another very
>> different message.
>>
>> The problem we have with on-air radio stations in the states is that they
>> are struggling to make money right now, so that stations of any significant
>> listenerships are not willing to do much free with non-profits (plus you
>> have to be a registered non-profit entity to qualify anyway).  The best way
>> to get good rates is to ask for midnight to midnight non-dayparted spots.
>> Frequently you can get them for next to nothing, unfortunately most of your
>> ads run in the overnight time slots when there are very few listeners.
>>
>> This would be a good one to try to tie in Canonical's marketing
>> department, especially since they may want to give some kind of script
>> approval (or suggestions!) before these ads run, because of the trademarks.
>> Is Gerry Carr still in charge of marketing over there?  We should perhaps
>> email him to see what his thoughts are.  If you like, I will be more than
>> happy to contact him.  If you want to, his email is
>> gerry.c...@canonical.com
>>
>> 2008/12/14 Christopher Swift 
>>
>>> Absolutely! Ubuntu podcasters already have the skills for the job. Of
>>> course if/when we get the ad written up, I think that we should make a post
>>> in our locale mailing lists, for example Ubuntu-UK, with copies of a
>>> transcript and seperate mp3/ogg files that can be combined to make the final
>>> piece, allowing room for translations or indeed accent differences with the
>>> US. And then hopefully, it'll be a viral ad on many people's internet and
>>> even local radio stations. I intend on contacting one and see if in my area
>>> they have lower rates for non-profit radio adverts and then hold a
>>> fund-raiser for my local Linux user group to cover it.
>>
>>
>> Podcasters could be great for this.  They have the tools and the interest
>> to make great sounding spots.  As far as on-air, expect to spend some money
>> if you want these to run in prime time (6am - 7pm).  On the bright side,
>> most radio stations will write and produce the ad for no extra charge (at
>> least here in the US).
>>
>>
>>> But before we get carried away, I'm going to spend this week working on
>>> drafts and I would be eternally grateful if you have an idea and post it
>>> even if your email just contains the words "I'm a PC, I'm a Mac". No, I am
>>> not intending for it to be in that style but if you said that I'd get the
>>> picture asap. I'll be posting for some volunteer jobs if anyone's interested
>>> however.
>>
>>
>> I really think we need to see the demographics before we start putting
>> together the message.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading,
>>> Christopher Swift 
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Chris Rowson <
>>> christopherrow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>


 On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Christopher Swift <
 chris.r.sw...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I've spoken to the station owner, they have two servers on which they
> broadcast the radio on. They've said as Ubuntu is a non-profit 
> organisation
> they have no problem advertising it for free and we can have any length
> advertisement slot. I'm now in the progress of explaining Ubuntu and OSS. 
> I
> need to contact another person to get the demographics but they have said
> that there are roughly 500 people always tuned in with of course peaks at
> certain times of the night and day.
>

>> Can they rotate different messages and can they position them in different
>> time slots?  Will they fit them, where ever they can, or will they commit to
>> certain hours... And what kind of frequency can we get?  If this is one
>> message, one time, it really isn't going to accomplish very much.  The human
>> brain has become so desensitized to ads that you have to hit the listener at
>> least three t

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Radio Advertising

2008-12-16 Thread Warren W
sorry to intrude but i am hosting a free DAB station over the med and iwas
wondering if there where any "such" radio ads? as i will soon team up with a
couple of local (fm) radios in malta and transmit from the maltese islands
as far as sicily and libya so where can i get the work/ideas and then i
could modify them into local language? asmall isda ofa very outdated (server
had crashed "short circut from a power surge on the island")
 is www.linuxmalta.tk or malta loco team
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:04 AM, Bret Fledderjohn
wrote:

> I'm sorry, I'm kinda doing a stream of consciousness thing here, and I'm
> top posting more than I should... :-)
>
> What type of audience is it? We need to know that in order to craft a
> message that will appeal to them.  If they are tech saavy, obviously, the
> script will need to be a much different message than if they are not.  Also
> if they are generally familar with OSS and Linux that is another very
> different message.
>
> The problem we have with on-air radio stations in the states is that they
> are struggling to make money right now, so that stations of any significant
> listenerships are not willing to do much free with non-profits (plus you
> have to be a registered non-profit entity to qualify anyway).  The best way
> to get good rates is to ask for midnight to midnight non-dayparted spots.
> Frequently you can get them for next to nothing, unfortunately most of your
> ads run in the overnight time slots when there are very few listeners.
>
> This would be a good one to try to tie in Canonical's marketing department,
> especially since they may want to give some kind of script approval (or
> suggestions!) before these ads run, because of the trademarks.  Is Gerry
> Carr still in charge of marketing over there?  We should perhaps email him
> to see what his thoughts are.  If you like, I will be more than happy to
> contact him.  If you want to, his email is gerry.c...@canonical.com
>
> 2008/12/14 Christopher Swift 
>
>> Absolutely! Ubuntu podcasters already have the skills for the job. Of
>> course if/when we get the ad written up, I think that we should make a post
>> in our locale mailing lists, for example Ubuntu-UK, with copies of a
>> transcript and seperate mp3/ogg files that can be combined to make the final
>> piece, allowing room for translations or indeed accent differences with the
>> US. And then hopefully, it'll be a viral ad on many people's internet and
>> even local radio stations. I intend on contacting one and see if in my area
>> they have lower rates for non-profit radio adverts and then hold a
>> fund-raiser for my local Linux user group to cover it.
>
>
> Podcasters could be great for this.  They have the tools and the interest
> to make great sounding spots.  As far as on-air, expect to spend some money
> if you want these to run in prime time (6am - 7pm).  On the bright side,
> most radio stations will write and produce the ad for no extra charge (at
> least here in the US).
>
>
>> But before we get carried away, I'm going to spend this week working on
>> drafts and I would be eternally grateful if you have an idea and post it
>> even if your email just contains the words "I'm a PC, I'm a Mac". No, I am
>> not intending for it to be in that style but if you said that I'd get the
>> picture asap. I'll be posting for some volunteer jobs if anyone's interested
>> however.
>
>
> I really think we need to see the demographics before we start putting
> together the message.
>
>
>>
>> Thanks for reading,
>> Christopher Swift 
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Chris Rowson <
>> christopherrow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Christopher Swift <
>>> chris.r.sw...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I've spoken to the station owner, they have two servers on which they
 broadcast the radio on. They've said as Ubuntu is a non-profit organisation
 they have no problem advertising it for free and we can have any length
 advertisement slot. I'm now in the progress of explaining Ubuntu and OSS. I
 need to contact another person to get the demographics but they have said
 that there are roughly 500 people always tuned in with of course peaks at
 certain times of the night and day.

>>>
> Can they rotate different messages and can they position them in different
> time slots?  Will they fit them, where ever they can, or will they commit to
> certain hours... And what kind of frequency can we get?  If this is one
> message, one time, it really isn't going to accomplish very much.  The human
> brain has become so desensitized to ads that you have to hit the listener at
> least three times for them to retain the message.
>
>
>
>>
 By the thanks for your interest Bret, I obviously won't be able to do
 this alone, I'm a student of science and not of media :P

 On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Bret Fledderjohn <
 freelancer...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What are we looking a