Re: rdiff-backup is it best openSource continous backup solution?

[Tyler J. Wagner]

On 2013-02-20 23:30, Rajeev Prasad wrote:
> I realized that a complete snapshot of the system (my requirement #6),
> which can be restored in one go (all OS/Apps/data etc.) is best done using
> software like clonezilla (I am looking at clonezilla right now).

For all OS/Apps/Data, you need only a tool that copies files and your OS
install media. Rsync does that just fine. Clonezilla can also copy
partitions, LVM, and other block-level data structures.

> I liked rdiff-backup when i saw it first time, but when i saw last release
> was in 2009. I wanted to be sure, if there is devolpment being done on it
> (say for another LTS release if any FS changes comes along etc.). So I
> asked if active devlopment is happenign on it or not.

>From the website, it doesn't appear to be in active development. There are
plenty of GUI tools that use it underneath.

Regards,
Tyler

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Re: rdiff-backup is it best openSource continous backup solution?

[Jaco]

I've started making use of a few systems for a whole snapshot solution.
* VM's off a ZFS NAS - ZFS allows for some really cool snapshot 
functionality (using NAS4Free now, but used FreeNAS in the past. 
OpenMediaVault is a .deb fork, but does not support ZFS :( (ZFS is 
userspace in Linux - not Unix - so significant performance knock)
* PXE - some PXE systems enable you to semi-automatically/autonomously 
do imaging of hosts. If you need some quick & easy to get you going, 
check out erPXE & the FOG project


So, putting these together, you may be able to PXE boot a baremetal host 
& image it to ZFS - & do interesting automated rsync stuff then.


Hope this helps

- Jaco

On 21/02/13 12:30, Rajeev Prasad wrote:

Tyler,

I really appreciate the gentleness of responding to the both questions.

I realized that a complete snapshot of the system (my requirement #6), 
which can be restored in one go (all OS/Apps/data etc.) is best done 
using software like clonezilla (I am looking at clonezilla right now).


the other part of my requirment seem to be met by backuppc. I found 
the software after i sent the original email to this list. (So I 
opened my account on backuppc and will ask future quest on the product 
there).


I liked rdiff-backup when i saw it first time, but when i saw last 
release was in 2009. I wanted to be sure, if there is devolpment being 
done on it (say for another LTS release if any FS changes comes along 
etc.). So I asked if active devlopment is happenign on it or not.


with kind regards.
Rajeev

*From:* Tyler J. Wagner 
*To:* Rajeev Prasad 
*Cc:* ubuntuserver ; Ubuntu technical 
support not for general discussions 

*Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2013 5:00 PM
*Subject:* Re: rdiff-backup is it best openSource continous backup 
solution?


I saw your post to the BackupPC user list. I prefer BackupPC, but it's not
ideal for bare-metal restore. It's ideal for "whoops, undelete", and as
poor-man's version control. It can be used for bare-metal restore as well,
but I recommend installing a base OS from the install media, then 
restoring
over that using BackupPC_tarCreate at the CLI. If you want to continue 
this

discussion, please take it to the BackupPC user list.

Otherwise, rdiff-backup is great, supported, and works fine. Rsync + diff,
what's not to love?

I personally use rsync to a LUKS-encrypted removable drive once a month or
so, plus BackupPC to get the dailies. I use BackupPC at home and at my
company, where we have ~70 Linux servers and workstations, and 5 Windows
PCs, all safely backed up for the past 3 months, to just 4 TB.

Regards,
Tyler

On 2013-02-20 20:08, Rajeev Prasad wrote:
> Gurus,
>
> need words of wisdom adn experiecne on backup solution for my ub server
> 1204 LTS
>
> a quick seacrh produced many results
> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem> and this continous
> backup solution(rdiff-backup <http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/>).
>
> is rdiff-backup currently managed?
>
> need something which:
>
> 1. actively managed/devloped. (dont want to commit to dead 
end/dead/dying

> software)
> 2. does continous backups.
> 3. backup atleast last 3 versions of a file/folder.
> 4. backup to network drive.
> 5. backup other connected PCs, Macs and Unix hosts.
> 6. backup my complete LAMP ubuntu server with other modules/apps 
installed.
> (so that with one restore operation I can get my crashed server back 
up to

> a working status).
>
> kindly suggest the best option out there. command line is fine.
>
> ty.
> Rajeev
>
>

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Re: rdiff-backup is it best openSource continous backup solution?

[Rajeev Prasad]

Tyler,

I really appreciate the gentleness of responding to the both questions.


I realized that a complete snapshot of the system (my requirement #6), which 
can be restored in one go (all OS/Apps/data etc.) is best done using software 
like clonezilla (I am looking at clonezilla right now).


the other part of my requirment seem to be met by backuppc. I found the 
software after i sent the original email to this list. (So I opened my account 
on backuppc and will ask future quest on the product there).


I liked rdiff-backup when i saw it first time, but when i saw last release was 
in 2009. I wanted to be sure, if there is devolpment being done on it (say for 
another LTS release if any FS changes comes along etc.). So I asked if active 
devlopment is happenign on it or not.


with kind regards.
Rajeev



 From: Tyler J. Wagner 
To: Rajeev Prasad  
Cc: ubuntuserver ; Ubuntu technical support not 
for general discussions  
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: rdiff-backup is it best openSource continous backup solution?
 
I saw your post to the BackupPC user list. I prefer BackupPC, but it's not
ideal for bare-metal restore. It's ideal for "whoops, undelete", and as
poor-man's version control. It can be used for bare-metal restore as well,
but I recommend installing a base OS from the install media, then restoring
over that using BackupPC_tarCreate at the CLI. If you want to continue this
discussion, please take it to the BackupPC user list.

Otherwise, rdiff-backup is great, supported, and works fine. Rsync + diff,
what's not to love?

I personally use rsync to a LUKS-encrypted removable drive once a month or
so, plus BackupPC to get the dailies. I use BackupPC at home and at my
company, where we have ~70 Linux servers and workstations, and 5 Windows
PCs, all safely backed up for the past 3 months, to just 4 TB.

Regards,
Tyler

On 2013-02-20 20:08, Rajeev Prasad wrote:
> Gurus,
> 
> need words of wisdom adn experiecne on backup solution for my ub server
> 1204 LTS
> 
> a quick seacrh produced many results
> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem> and this continous
> backup solution(rdiff-backup <http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/>).
> 
> is rdiff-backup currently managed?
> 
> need something which:
> 
> 1. actively managed/devloped. (dont want to commit to dead end/dead/dying
> software)
> 2. does continous backups.
> 3. backup atleast last 3 versions of a file/folder.
> 4. backup to network drive.
> 5. backup other connected PCs, Macs and Unix hosts.
> 6. backup my complete LAMP ubuntu server with other modules/apps installed.
> (so that with one restore operation I can get my crashed server back up to
> a working status).
> 
> kindly suggest the best option out there. command line is fine.
> 
> ty.
> Rajeev
> 
> 

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Re: rdiff-backup is it best openSource continous backup solution?

[Tyler J. Wagner]

I saw your post to the BackupPC user list. I prefer BackupPC, but it's not
ideal for bare-metal restore. It's ideal for "whoops, undelete", and as
poor-man's version control. It can be used for bare-metal restore as well,
but I recommend installing a base OS from the install media, then restoring
over that using BackupPC_tarCreate at the CLI. If you want to continue this
discussion, please take it to the BackupPC user list.

Otherwise, rdiff-backup is great, supported, and works fine. Rsync + diff,
what's not to love?

I personally use rsync to a LUKS-encrypted removable drive once a month or
so, plus BackupPC to get the dailies. I use BackupPC at home and at my
company, where we have ~70 Linux servers and workstations, and 5 Windows
PCs, all safely backed up for the past 3 months, to just 4 TB.

Regards,
Tyler

On 2013-02-20 20:08, Rajeev Prasad wrote:
> Gurus,
> 
> need words of wisdom adn experiecne on backup solution for my ub server
> 1204 LTS
> 
> a quick seacrh produced many results
>  and this continous
> backup solution(rdiff-backup ).
> 
> is rdiff-backup currently managed?
> 
> need something which:
> 
> 1. actively managed/devloped. (dont want to commit to dead end/dead/dying
> software)
> 2. does continous backups.
> 3. backup atleast last 3 versions of a file/folder.
> 4. backup to network drive.
> 5. backup other connected PCs, Macs and Unix hosts.
> 6. backup my complete LAMP ubuntu server with other modules/apps installed.
> (so that with one restore operation I can get my crashed server back up to
> a working status).
> 
> kindly suggest the best option out there. command line is fine.
> 
> ty.
> Rajeev
> 
> 

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lose both, and deserve neither."
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rdiff-backup is it best openSource continous backup solution?

[Rajeev Prasad]

Gurus,

need words of wisdom adn experiecne on backup solution for my ub server 1204 LTS

a quick seacrh produced many results and this continous backup 
solution(rdiff-backup).

is rdiff-backup currently managed?

need something which:

1. actively managed/devloped. (dont want to commit to dead end/dead/dying 
software)

2. does continous backups.
3. backup atleast last 3 versions of a file/folder.
4. backup to network drive.
5. backup other connected PCs, Macs and Unix hosts.
6. backup my complete LAMP ubuntu server with other modules/apps installed. (so 
that with one restore operation I can get my crashed server back up to a 
working status).

kindly suggest the best option out there. command line is fine.

ty.
Rajeev
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