[Ubuntu-translations-coordinators] [Bug 1513311] Re: Very hard to translate "Sorry!" sentence
It is perfectly for me.
I'm removing ubuntu-ux to do not bothering them.
Thanks!
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Title:
Very hard to translate "Sorry!" sentence
Status in Holidays Scope:
Confirmed
Bug description:
In Holidays scope there is sentence: "Sorry!" which is very hard to
translate, located in ../src/query.cpp:209
Why it is hard to translate:
1. Ubuntu Phone is screaming to the user (by "!" sign).
2. It is still unknown who is "sorry". Is it "I'm sorry!" (as a Ubuntu/
phone) or "We are sorry!" (as a team). For Polish language it will be two
completely different translations ("Przepraszam!" - "I'm sorry!", or
"Przepraszamy!" - "We are sorry!")
3. It is very uncommon and inconsistent, that ubuntu Phone is talking with
user. I cannot find other strings, where Phone is "sorry" for something.
4. Polish translation: "I'm sorry!" - "Przepraszam!", is very bad, because it
mean that Ubuntu Phone has feelings and it is sorry for something.
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[Ubuntu-translations-coordinators] [Bug 1513311] Re: Very hard to translate "Sorry!" sentence
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Title:
Very hard to translate "Sorry!" sentence
Status in Holidays Scope:
Confirmed
Status in Ubuntu Translations:
New
Bug description:
In Holidays scope there is sentence: "Sorry!" which is very hard to
translate, located in ../src/query.cpp:209
Why it is hard to translate:
1. Ubuntu Phone is screaming to the user (by "!" sign).
2. It is still unknown who is "sorry". Is it "I'm sorry!" (as a Ubuntu/
phone) or "We are sorry!" (as a team). For Polish language it will be two
completely different translations ("Przepraszam!" - "I'm sorry!", or
"Przepraszamy!" - "We are sorry!")
3. It is very uncommon and inconsistent, that ubuntu Phone is talking with
user. I cannot find other strings, where Phone is "sorry" for something.
4. Polish translation: "I'm sorry!" - "Przepraszam!", is very bad, because it
mean that Ubuntu Phone has feelings and it is sorry for something.
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[Ubuntu-translations-coordinators] [Bug 1513311] Re: Very hard to translate "Sorry!" sentence
Hi Bartosz,
"Warning" seems like a good compromise. Although I would not append the
colon (":") because this is the title part of the scope result.
Thanks!
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Title:
Very hard to translate "Sorry!" sentence
Status in Holidays Scope:
Confirmed
Status in Ubuntu Translations:
New
Status in Ubuntu UX:
New
Bug description:
In Holidays scope there is sentence: "Sorry!" which is very hard to
translate, located in ../src/query.cpp:209
Why it is hard to translate:
1. Ubuntu Phone is screaming to the user (by "!" sign).
2. It is still unknown who is "sorry". Is it "I'm sorry!" (as a Ubuntu/
phone) or "We are sorry!" (as a team). For Polish language it will be two
completely different translations ("Przepraszam!" - "I'm sorry!", or
"Przepraszamy!" - "We are sorry!")
3. It is very uncommon and inconsistent, that ubuntu Phone is talking with
user. I cannot find other strings, where Phone is "sorry" for something.
4. Polish translation: "I'm sorry!" - "Przepraszam!", is very bad, because it
mean that Ubuntu Phone has feelings and it is sorry for something.
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[Ubuntu-translations-coordinators] [Bug 1513311] Re: Very hard to translate "Sorry!" sentence
What about "Warning:" "Location data must be enabled to display holidays from
your current location." (or something else)?
It is widely used (also in ubuntu phone/desktop).
If no, can we be more explicit, and use: "We are sorry" to translation?
@Kyle I don't want to make you upset with this papercut bug.
It is very important for me to have the best User Experience also for other
languages.
For Slavic languages we cannot separate Verb from person. We must say who is
"Sorry".
For Ubuntu Core applications we have similar bugs:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1493466
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Title:
Very hard to translate "Sorry!" sentence
Status in Holidays Scope:
Confirmed
Status in Ubuntu Translations:
New
Status in Ubuntu UX:
New
Bug description:
In Holidays scope there is sentence: "Sorry!" which is very hard to
translate, located in ../src/query.cpp:209
Why it is hard to translate:
1. Ubuntu Phone is screaming to the user (by "!" sign).
2. It is still unknown who is "sorry". Is it "I'm sorry!" (as a Ubuntu/
phone) or "We are sorry!" (as a team). For Polish language it will be two
completely different translations ("Przepraszam!" - "I'm sorry!", or
"Przepraszamy!" - "We are sorry!")
3. It is very uncommon and inconsistent, that ubuntu Phone is talking with
user. I cannot find other strings, where Phone is "sorry" for something.
4. Polish translation: "I'm sorry!" - "Przepraszam!", is very bad, because it
mean that Ubuntu Phone has feelings and it is sorry for something.
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[Ubuntu-translations-coordinators] [Bug 1513311] Re: Very hard to translate "Sorry!" sentence
Hi,
The exclamation point is not screaming, it is only emphasis. :)
If this message displays it indicates something is not right. This
"Sorry!" message is the title. The text below that tells the user, for
example, that holiday info cannot display because they need to enable
location awareness ins cope settings. So this is a polite and informal
way to begin informing the user there is something wrong with their
settings that they can fix.
I understand your concern that the term "Sorry" indicates the phone has
feelings. I think you are being too literal. The focus here is on
being polite and ifnormal.
If there is no direct translation in Polish for "Sorry", then use "We're
sorry" or some carefully considered equivalent. I don't want it to be a
direct and cold statement like "Error".
(By the way, normally someone other than the bug creator sets the status
to Confirmed :)
I welcome comments from Ubuntu UX here as well.
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Title:
Very hard to translate "Sorry!" sentence
Status in Holidays Scope:
Confirmed
Status in Ubuntu Translations:
New
Status in Ubuntu UX:
New
Bug description:
In Holidays scope there is sentence: "Sorry!" which is very hard to
translate, located in ../src/query.cpp:209
Why it is hard to translate:
1. Ubuntu Phone is screaming to the user (by "!" sign).
2. It is still unknown who is "sorry". Is it "I'm sorry!" (as a Ubuntu/
phone) or "We are sorry!" (as a team). For Polish language it will be two
completely different translations ("Przepraszam!" - "I'm sorry!", or
"Przepraszamy!" - "We are sorry!")
3. It is very uncommon and inconsistent, that ubuntu Phone is talking with
user. I cannot find other strings, where Phone is "sorry" for something.
4. Polish translation: "I'm sorry!" - "Przepraszam!", is very bad, because it
mean that Ubuntu Phone has feelings and it is sorry for something.
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[Ubuntu-translations-coordinators] [Bug 1429548] Re: The Holidays scope has a wrong italian translation
** Summary changed:
- The "Today" scope has a wrong italian translation
+ The Holidays scope has a wrong italian translation
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Title:
The Holidays scope has a wrong italian translation
Status in Holidays Scope:
Triaged
Status in Ubuntu Translations:
New
Status in unity-scopes-shell package in Ubuntu:
Invalid
Bug description:
In the "Today" scope ("Oggi" in italian) there are wrong italian
translations. What in english is "holiday", in Italy is "festività" -
you can't call it "vacanza" (singular) or "vacanze" (plural).
"Vacanze" is similar to "holiday", but in this particular context
"festività" is the right translation.
I'm using Aquaris e4.5 with Ubuntu 14.10 (r19).
PS: I'm member of Ubuntu italian translators, but I can't find where
"Today" scope translations' are.
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