Re: [ubuntu-uk] Audio Apps
Hi David, On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 09:52:48PM +0100, David Morley wrote: > On 19/06/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Hi Ian, > > > >On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 09:40:49PM +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > >> And although not a necessity, should be available on both Ubuntu and > >Windows > >> platforms > >> > > > >Audacity. > > > >Cheers, > >Al. > > > Go to getdeb.org and download Jokoshe0.9 > Haha, have you actually _tried_ jokosher? It crashes more often than windows :) No disrespect to the authors (Jono included) but Jokosher is most definately not what the original poster wants or needs right now. Especially given the requirement for something that works. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Audio Apps
On 19/06/07, Andrew Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 19/06/07 21:52, David Morley wrote: > Go to getdeb.org and download Jokoshe0.9 Why getdeb? There are Ubuntu packages for feisty on the Jokosher site http://www.jokosher.org/download That said, Jokosher is still pretty young (although looks very promising) - Jono doesn't even use it for lugradio ;) Jokosher 0.9 is in gutsy too, but I'm not advocating upgrading to an unstable development version of Ubuntu :) -- Andy Price http://andrewprice.me.uk Getdeb.net take most of the hassle out of installing 0.9 on feisty. That is why I recommended doing that way :) -- Seek That Thy Might Know -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Audio Apps
On 19/06/07 21:52, David Morley wrote: > Go to getdeb.org and download Jokoshe0.9 Why getdeb? There are Ubuntu packages for feisty on the Jokosher site http://www.jokosher.org/download That said, Jokosher is still pretty young (although looks very promising) - Jono doesn't even use it for lugradio ;) Jokosher 0.9 is in gutsy too, but I'm not advocating upgrading to an unstable development version of Ubuntu :) -- Andy Price http://andrewprice.me.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Audio Apps
On 19/06/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Ian, On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 09:40:49PM +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > And although not a necessity, should be available on both Ubuntu and Windows > platforms > Audacity. Cheers, Al. Go to getdeb.org and download Jokoshe0.9 -- Seek That Thy Might Know -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Audio Apps
Hi Ian, On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 09:40:49PM +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > And although not a necessity, should be available on both Ubuntu and Windows > platforms > Audacity. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Audio Apps
Hi Ian I'm not an expert in this kind of thing but have you checked out Ubuntu Studio? As far as I'm aware it's supposed to by a fully featured audio and video studio distribution. Chris On 19/06/07, Ian Pascoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Folks > > Need some recommendations from you please. > > I'm looking for an audio recording program with the following criteria: > > * Can record from the mic input of the PC > * Record in both PCM and MP3 formats > * The App must run on the desktop > * All recording and editing controls must be accessible from both keyboard > and mouse clicks > * Simple and easy to use - ie doesn't require lots of keypresses / mouse > clicks to get the app in a state ready to record > * Able to review and if need be overwrite portions of the file with new > input from the mic > > And although not a necessity, should be available on both Ubuntu and Windows > platforms > > I'm trying to put together a recommendation to a charity that I use that > records audio books for the blind and partially sighted. They're looking to > move their recordists from good old musicassette to digital but cost is a > problem. So I thought I'd give them a pointer in the FOS direction. > > Cheers > > E > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Audio Apps
Hi Folks Need some recommendations from you please. I'm looking for an audio recording program with the following criteria: * Can record from the mic input of the PC * Record in both PCM and MP3 formats * The App must run on the desktop * All recording and editing controls must be accessible from both keyboard and mouse clicks * Simple and easy to use - ie doesn't require lots of keypresses / mouse clicks to get the app in a state ready to record * Able to review and if need be overwrite portions of the file with new input from the mic And although not a necessity, should be available on both Ubuntu and Windows platforms I'm trying to put together a recommendation to a charity that I use that records audio books for the blind and partially sighted. They're looking to move their recordists from good old musicassette to digital but cost is a problem. So I thought I'd give them a pointer in the FOS direction. Cheers E -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
> This sparked off an idea... could we have a version of the leaflet targeted > at being handed out with a live cd included? > > Johnathon I had puzzled that one over myself. Seems to me that if someone actually had the CD too, it'd be one less excuse! I did wonder however what the best format would be for that kinda thing (paper wise). I'll add it to the wiki and see what people come up with. Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
... > I have a personal interest in this thread as my LUG hope to start > providing > talks within the local secondary schools next educational year., and > these > leaflets would go along way to providing some take home information - > together with a Live CD of course! > This sparked off an idea... could we have a version of the leaflet targeted at being handed out with a live cd included? Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Hi Norman It was interesting to see the hornets nest you stirred up with your original post. Every once in a while it does us good to have someone throw in such a spanner and make us take a long look at what we do and why. I don't think that the expectation is that once Chris / Matthew have produced their initial leaflet there will be a sudden mass migration to Ubuntu - no matter how good it looks . But what it does give us, and by us I mean those who have the inclination to go and put the leaflets in practical and prodominent places, the opportunity to make people aware. As has been said, on this list I think, what we are facing is the obvious predominance of M$ but in addition we face the marketing people as well. I don't expect Ubuntu or any community member to fork out for a TV / Radio Ad campaigb as that would really not be advantageous to the cause. What we need to do is aim at those people who are interested and because of their experience get them to tell their friends etc. A case in point. A LUG member did a presentation to our local U3A (University of the Third Age) group last year and he guessed that the average age was about 65 - 70. Out of that two people took home with them Live CDs and use it in place of M$. So, what we are in fact doing is providing a resource to the community so that when someone needs a leaflet to describe whatever, they can go and grab the relevant one. When this all kicked off originally, it was apparent that a lot of people had done their own leaflets to cater for the audience they had to approach. By doing this we aren't having to re-invent the wheel each time. And as we gain experience we can make other leaflets and improve those originals. I have a personal interest in this thread as my LUG hope to start providing talks within the local secondary schools next educational year., and these leaflets would go along way to providing some take home information - together with a Live CD of course! E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of norman Sent: 19 June 2007 13:59 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets Thanks to all of you for replying to the questions. I applaud what you are doing and wish you every success. It would be wonderful if you could achieve what you are aiming for and I hope you will not be too disappointed. I am sure that, if we all use the facilities we have to promote Ubuntu, constant dripping may help to bring about that which we desire. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
In Louisa's latter post following on from her proof reading, I thought she used the word septic instead of sceptic. But now I realise that the egg is on my face well and truly as it was the pronunciation of the screen reader I use. Pass me the cloth someone? E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kirrus Sent: 19 June 2007 09:34 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets - "Ian Pascoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > E > > PS Sorry to read about your septic words Louisa sofa> > Errr... what do you mean by this? (Me don't geddit :S) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] accessing certain apps
Mike Probably best thing to do is throw this onto the Orca list - there are a couple of community members working on the help pages at the moment so it may well have been changed since I last looked. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of michaelweaver Sent: 19 June 2007 03:54 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] accessing certain apps I am using Ubuntu 5.04 so I should be able to create that file. However on the Orca page for administration from the accessible applications it is not clear as to whether the file needs to be created in a text editor so when I typed the commands into the Gnome terminal and rebooted I did not get the changes for making adminstration tasks accessible. On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 22:06 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > Hi Mike > > Have you tried the Orbtrics (?) file as described on the Orca System Admin > help pages? Note only works in 7.0.4 > > For any other versions of Ubuntu you'll have to go into the terminal sudo > into root and launch the program from there. This of course is dependant on > the app in question actually being available to the AT-SPI bridge in the > first place. > > If it hasn't been written with the bridge in place, there's no other > alternative but to find another app that does what you want that does have > the bridge. > > Generally speaking any app that uses GTK + should be OK. > > E > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of michaelweaver > Sent: 18 June 2007 20:06 > To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: [ubuntu-uk] accessing certain apps > > > I have information as to getting certain system apps which require the > use of sudo working with speech but I am not sure how I actually go > about creating the necessary file before I log out and login again to > effect the changes to make things more accessible with Orca. > The commands I have to get accepted I created a text file containing > them which I will paste into this email. > The commands are as follows: > sudo su - root > cat > ~/.orbitrc << EOF > ORBIIOPIPv4=1 > ORBIIOPUNIX=0 > EOF > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Matthew Larsen wrote: > Just another thought... > > When building the graphics on the leaflet I was thinking about > putting on the logos for Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu and > UbuntuStudio. I took them off in the end because I thought it just > over-complicated the leaflet and would make things even more > confused. As they are all derivatives of Ubuntu as well I thought > it best to leave it to the reader to explore the different > versions. > > Any thoughts? I think the Ubuntu Logo and name (alone) would stand well on a leaflet. It help to focus the 'Brand'. I can imagine car window stickers 'We do it with Ubuntu' 'Ubuntu Rocks!' 'Ubuntu' It is not necessary in many situations to complicate with thoughts of other product family members, Linux or whatever, just get it across that it is either Ubuntu or Windows. Simple. They think: 'What is Ubuntu, it is being compared with Windows?' It is most likely to prompt a non technical reader to at least find out more. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] kernels and releases
norman wrote: >> Alec / Alan >>> Thanks for the quick replies. So is the upshot that I'm >> OK using the Feisty repos with 2.6.17? > > The answer is yes, I have to switch to 2.6.17 when I wish to use my > scanner. Thanks, Norman - definite and reassuring! Best wishes -- Diana -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] kernels and releases
> Alec / Alan >>> Thanks for the quick replies. So is the upshot that I'm > OK using the Feisty repos with 2.6.17? The answer is yes, I have to switch to 2.6.17 when I wish to use my scanner. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] kernels and releases
Alan Pope wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 16:27 +0100, Alec Wright wrote: >> As long as the first 2 digits (2.6) are the same, everything should >> still run fine. No new features will be added to the kernel until 2.7, >> which I expect is a long way off. > > Umm, that's a little, er, inaccurate :) > > New stuff comes into the kernel all the time, new drivers, new > technologies etc. kvm for example came in at 2.6.20, not on a major > point release. Alec / Alan >>> Thanks for the quick replies. So is the upshot that I'm OK using the Feisty repos with 2.6.17? -- Diana -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] kernels and releases
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 16:27 +0100, Alec Wright wrote: > As long as the first 2 digits (2.6) are the same, everything should > still run fine. No new features will be added to the kernel until 2.7, > which I expect is a long way off. Umm, that's a little, er, inaccurate :) New stuff comes into the kernel all the time, new drivers, new technologies etc. kvm for example came in at 2.6.20, not on a major point release. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] kernels and releases
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 10:09 +0100, luxxius wrote: > After a Dapper > Edgy > Feisty upgrade on my old Dell Inspiron laptop, I > had a problem with very slow booting, as described in > https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/8390. (This looks like a > bug in kernel 2.6.20 that's gone on for a while.) I fixed it by editing > grub to default to kernel 2.6.17, which works fine. > > What I'm wondering is how the kernel versions relate to the Ubuntu > releases. Specifically, my resources.list file still refers to feisty > repositories. Now that I've downgraded my laptop to 2.6.17-11 (IIRC), > will this matter, or do I need to change it to ?Edgy repositories? > > Sorry if this is a stupid question with a dead obvious answer! > As long as the first 2 digits (2.6) are the same, everything should still run fine. No new features will be added to the kernel until 2.7, which I expect is a long way off. -- Alec Wright -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Thanks to all of you for replying to the questions. I applaud what you are doing and wish you every success. It would be wonderful if you could achieve what you are aiming for and I hope you will not be too disappointed. I am sure that, if we all use the facilities we have to promote Ubuntu, constant dripping may help to bring about that which we desire. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] accessing certain apps
Hi Alan Pope wrote: > Indeed if you wanted to upgrade you'd find it difficult online due to the > repositories no longer containing the packages for 5.04 or 5.10. the packages were removed from the main archive to reduce the burden on mirrors, but you can still get them from http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Cheers, -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.canonical.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Just another thought... When building the graphics on the leaflet I was thinking about putting on the logos for Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu and UbuntuStudio. I took them off in the end because I thought it just over-complicated the leaflet and would make things even more confused. As they are all derivatives of Ubuntu as well I thought it best to leave it to the reader to explore the different versions. Any thoughts? Regards, On 18/06/07, Matthew Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is my idea for the graphics and title page of the leaflet, I > based it on your's Chris. I didnt change any of the text (apart from > the title) > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Leaflets?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=leaflet2_matthewgraphicsversion.pdf > > Regards, > > > > > Chris > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > > > > -- > Matthew G Larsen >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> +44(0)7739 785 249 > -- Matthew G Larsen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > +44(0)7739 785 249 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
<> norman wrote: > As no one seems inclined to react to my comments I will respond to > myself. I didn't notice them. This is a lively discussion and it probably slipped by as comments contributing to the discussion rather than an invitation to respond. > As one of the longest users of Ubuntu in this group I am curious > to know why there is all this activity in wanting to produce a leaflet. I think it's the best, most reliable way to get information and awareness out there among people who either don't use computers already, or who do but haven't heard of Ubuntu. > Is there a real desire to promote the use of Ubuntu and, if so, why? Yes. There's a chicken-and-egg thing going on at the moment. Some hardware vendors refuse to produce open drivers/firmware for Linux because they say there isn't the demand. By growing our user base, we debunk that myth and also expand the community of people able to help out. I also think it is essential that computing is accessible to as many people as possible. I've recently been looking for a new job, and a few people have asked me if I have experience with Microsoft Visual Studio. I had to explain that it was too expensive for me, and the only way I had access to Visual Studio was via a summer placement at University. Otherwise I would have struggled to get any job requiring experience of Visual Studio, because the only way I could get that experience was in a job using Visual Studio. I've also been asked a lot for a Microsoft Word version of my CV. I had to explain that I maintain it in HTML, which is readable on any computer with a web browser -- even my mobile phone can be used to view my CV -- because I value open standards. I was even told by one agency that MS Word is a standard format and had to explain that no, actually, it's not. > Who do you expect to be interested enough to even give Ubuntu a try? I imagine anyone who needs to use a computer would be interested in free software that doesn't try to restrict how you use it and forces you to pay to upgrade when your current version does everything you need it to, just because everyone else has. > What is your personal motive in all this activity to produce a leaflet? See my second comment above. It would be remiss of me not to also state that I intend to try and make money offering paid-for support amongst other things, but my primary objective is to spread the word and expand the community -- people won't come to pay me for support they can get elsewhere, so I'm not expecting a free ride. > How, why and when did you start using Ubuntu and which operating system > were you using before conversion? My wife started using Ubuntu before I did. She's non-technical, but wanted a computer for browsing the web, sending/receiving e-mail, talking to me at work via instant messaging, managing her business accounts and producing letters, quotes and invoices. I got hold of an old machine for free, with an AMD K6-2/550 and 256MB RAM, but no hard drive and no software. I'd originally got her on Red Hat 7.1, but I got pretty frustrated with it, particularly the RPM package manager. I was using Debian unstable on my desktop and a couple of servers and was impressed by apt, but didn't consider Debian either stable enough (duh!) or friendly enough for my wife. So when the first Ubuntu Live CD came out (Breezy, in October 2005?), I got her to try it out for a week or so. She liked it, apart from the fact that it was so slow, so I installed it for her. Her machine has since been upgraded to a 933MHz Celeron and runs Dapper just fine. I was still running Debian unstable on my desktop when I bought a new laptop with Windows XP Pro X64. I even booted XP a couple of times. But for most of the first couple of months, I used Ubuntu from a Live CD, until I eventually decided to go ahead and install it. > What makes you believe that your knowledge and experience qualifies you > to produce a leaflet? You will note that so far, I haven't produced anything. I merely poked the hornet's nest, so to speak, after Alan Pope had originally made the suggestion. However, I do have around 10 years' experience using Linux-based operating systems on desktops and servers, as well as providing support to friends and family for a wide range of computer problems, so I have a reasonable idea of the types of problems "normal" people tend to come across. > There is no compulsion, of course, for you to respond to the above and I > shall not feel hurt if you don't. Unless there is a good reason for me > to say more I am now finished with the subject. The best of luck and > stick with it if it makes you feel good. One of the things I've been most impressed and heartened by in this discussion is the collaboration. The community, in my opinion, is one of the major benefits that Free software, and Ubuntu in particular, offers to people. Free, open discussions, bouncing ideas back and forth, comments and suggestions have led to so
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Hello Norman, I have been lurking and watching the creation of the leaflet I lack the Creative and Artistic design to produce something of quality such as this but since theyve not created or said anything wildly irritating or abusive or just outright rude I stayed queit, sometimes in open source this is also the best thing you can do. However since you ask > Is there a real desire to promote the use of Ubuntu and, if so, why? > Because we need to ensure that the society of today and the computer users of the future have access to free and OPEN tools and utilities and operating systems that enable people to use the technology they purchased to achieve the goals they set for themselves. We need to have a computer system which frees potential in its audience to learn from each other and developers and community members about what it means to contribute in a positive and informative way within society, it is Ubuntu for a reason. > Who do you expect to be interested enough to even give Ubuntu a try? > Anyone who has ever had a itch to experience a differnce in their own expectations and experience of computing, information technology and networking. Since Ubuntu like many OSS products provide the freedom for people to go as far as they wish with their experiences in IT. > What is your personal motive in all this activity to produce a leaflet? > Because I am 37, I remember a time when the UK was a power house of cottage industries leading the way in programming and development in the computer industry. its been handed over now to a elite and discreet few who are determined to levy a tax on all who want to join. OSS has enabled many many people to grow and produce ideas for themselves , for example lets see Google, Ebay, and our own Mr Shuttleworth. > How, why and when did you start using Ubuntu and which operating system > were you using before conversion? > Since the first time it appeared as a ISO to download and no I cannot remember when that was but then again I discover that i was installing slackware on my pc back in 97 and 96 I have used to date, slackware, redhat, mandrake,debian and now Ubuntu. There have been more impressive developments and creations across those platforms than I have ever seen from Windows 3.1 to Vista. > What makes you believe that your knowledge and experience qualifies you > to produce a leaflet? > Well first, all my clients of the last 8 years tell me that my experience and knowledge in the IT industry is invaluable to them. They find having access to my opinions and thoughts to be a financial benefit to their own business descisions, but for more see my linkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholasbutler. I went Self Employed near on 8 years ago with the view to promote and encourage the use of OSS within a SME to date I have 3 clients ( out of my 25 core clients and 40 in my client network ) who are using Ubuntu on the desktop which has proven a terrible thing for me ? Do you know why ? Theyve stopped calling for support , things are just working. If I carry on like this I am going to have to move to being a software developer, maybe in something like Ubuntu ( and there in I am recursive in my answer ) . Ive contributed nothing to the leaflet project , why ? well because sometimes a project can be killed for to much discussion and Chris Rowson and others have been moving it along so well that it doesnt need a "blessing" or a comment from me to promote it further but its a great example of what OSS can enable people to achieve within the community. Thanks for reading -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
hi norman, Sorry to hear you feel we are ignoring you and your loss of interest in the project. I did read your original post and would have responded to any questions raised. I would imagine there were not many responses because most of the points in your comment had already been addressed earlier in the discussion (such as not mentioning linux, it being similar to windows, lots of free software etc). Josh, Thanks for feedback, the versions I have made are a prototype for the graphics on it, anything is subject to change :) (feel free to download the source file and fiddle with it) The idea of bundling the install instructions is to dispell a lot of myths and FUD put out about wrecking your computer. I'm not so sure about splitting up the install into another leaflet, I would imagine people in general would prefer one leaflet as opposed to 2 (you might lose it, bin it by accident, not be bothered to read it etc). I agree more information needs to go on about FOSS and free software I will be working on another version of the leaflet later today Regards, On 19/06/07, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > < big snip > > > As no one seems inclined to react to my comments I will respond to > myself. As one of the longest users of Ubuntu in this group I am curious > to know why there is all this activity in wanting to produce a leaflet. > Is there anyone prepared to answer a few questions? If so, now is your > chance. > > Is there a real desire to promote the use of Ubuntu and, if so, why? > > Who do you expect to be interested enough to even give Ubuntu a try? > > What is your personal motive in all this activity to produce a leaflet? > > How, why and when did you start using Ubuntu and which operating system > were you using before conversion? > > What makes you believe that your knowledge and experience qualifies you > to produce a leaflet? > > There is no compulsion, of course, for you to respond to the above and I > shall not feel hurt if you don't. Unless there is a good reason for me > to say more I am now finished with the subject. The best of luck and > stick with it if it makes you feel good. > > Norman > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- Matthew G Larsen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > +44(0)7739 785 249 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
> Is there a real desire to promote the use of Ubuntu and, if so, why? If there was no desire to use Ubuntu it would be pretty pointless being subscribed to an Ubuntu mailing list wouldn't it? > Who do you expect to be interested enough to even give Ubuntu a try? What made you interested enough to give Ubuntu a try? > What is your personal motive in all this activity to produce a leaflet? I'm not self-obsessed enough to consider that everything is about me. Sometimes people just do things to be helpful you know! > How, why and when did you start using Ubuntu and which operating system > were you using before conversion? I work in IT using Windows, Linux and Solaris. I'm still using all three. > What makes you believe that your knowledge and experience qualifies you > to produce a leaflet? I'm a little confused at this one. What disqualifies someone from being able to do so? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Hi Norman, On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 09:57:02AM +0100, norman wrote: > < big snip > > > As no one seems inclined to react to my comments I will respond to > myself. Probably because it contained no questions and it was only sent at 5pm last night. > As one of the longest users of Ubuntu in this group I am curious > to know why there is all this activity in wanting to produce a leaflet. Why not? > Is there a real desire to promote the use of Ubuntu and, if so, why? > Yes. From my point of view I would like to see more people use Ubuntu. The more users there are of Ubuntu the more that hardware and software vendors will take notice. The result of that is that devices will be more likely to be delivered with Linux support out of the box. In addition software vendors will look at the market share Ubuntu (Linux) has and decide that it's worth porting applications to Linux, or open sourcing them, or writing them from scratch or using tools like WINE to bring their apps to the users. > Who do you expect to be interested enough to even give Ubuntu a try? > Anyone who either has yet to use a computer, or someone who already has some computer experience. i.e. pretty much anyone. > What is your personal motive in all this activity to produce a leaflet? > See answer to first question. > How, why and when did you start using Ubuntu and which operating system > were you using before conversion? > I moved to Ubuntu when the first release came out. Previously I had used Windows, DOS, OS/2 and various other non-PC systems. > What makes you believe that your knowledge and experience qualifies you > to produce a leaflet? > I have created and helped to create leaflets before. I have lectured in IT, have given talks at my local LUG, answered support questions on the answer tracker, helped via IRC, assisted in real life. I guess that all helps. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] kernels and releases
After a Dapper > Edgy > Feisty upgrade on my old Dell Inspiron laptop, I had a problem with very slow booting, as described in https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/8390. (This looks like a bug in kernel 2.6.20 that's gone on for a while.) I fixed it by editing grub to default to kernel 2.6.17, which works fine. What I'm wondering is how the kernel versions relate to the Ubuntu releases. Specifically, my resources.list file still refers to feisty repositories. Now that I've downgraded my laptop to 2.6.17-11 (IIRC), will this matter, or do I need to change it to ?Edgy repositories? Sorry if this is a stupid question with a dead obvious answer! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
< big snip > As no one seems inclined to react to my comments I will respond to myself. As one of the longest users of Ubuntu in this group I am curious to know why there is all this activity in wanting to produce a leaflet. Is there anyone prepared to answer a few questions? If so, now is your chance. Is there a real desire to promote the use of Ubuntu and, if so, why? Who do you expect to be interested enough to even give Ubuntu a try? What is your personal motive in all this activity to produce a leaflet? How, why and when did you start using Ubuntu and which operating system were you using before conversion? What makes you believe that your knowledge and experience qualifies you to produce a leaflet? There is no compulsion, of course, for you to respond to the above and I shall not feel hurt if you don't. Unless there is a good reason for me to say more I am now finished with the subject. The best of luck and stick with it if it makes you feel good. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Can I disable the power button?
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 08:12 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > > Alan Pope wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > > > On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 19:05 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > >> James Tait wrote: > >>> Dave Walker wrote: > On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 14:28 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > You can confirm that this setting does not exist? > http://daviey.mooo.com/powersettings.jpg > >>> The drop-down is there for me, but I only have options to "Ask me", > >>> "Suspend", "Hibernate" or "Shutdown". > >> I can confirm the same options. There isn't a "Do nothing" option. I > >> tried Alan's suggestion of --reinstall but this didn't alter the g-p-m > >> interface. > >> > > > > The screenshot you sent me looks like a really old version of g-p-m. > > > > http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=screenshots&id=Screenshot_Power_Management_Preferences > > > > I wonder if something hasn't been updated during your upgrades from > > dapper->edgy->feisty. > > > > Can you just check ubuntu-desktop (and dependants) are installed > > correctly:- > > > > sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop > > "ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version." > > no change in the power management application user interface. > The previous --reinstall shows the same version as per previous posts > 2.18.2-0 > > > > > It will either just say it's already there, or it will pull in a bunch > > of stuff that was missing. Can you also check your /etc/apt-sources.list > > has all the necessary repos specified? Make it look a bit like what you > > see in http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/295 > > > > Cheers, > > Al. > > > > -- > Simple effective migration to Open Source based computing > > Jim Kissel > Open Source Migrations Limited > w: http://www.osml.eu > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > p: +44(0) 8703 301044 > m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 > Hi Jim, I'm on Ubuntu 6.10, upgraded from Ubuntu 6.06 and I found the same problem. It can be circumvented by making the change in gconf (gconf-editor) at /apps/gnome-power-manager/action_button_power, just set it to "nothing", as it says in the description field. Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
- "Ian Pascoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > E > > PS Sorry to read about your septic words Louisa sofa> > Errr... what do you mean by this? (Me don't geddit :S) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] accessing certain apps
Hi Michael, On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 03:53:40AM +0100, michaelweaver wrote: > I am using Ubuntu 5.04 so I should be able to create that file. However > on the Orca page for administration from the accessible applications it > is not clear as to whether the file needs to be created in a text editor > so when I typed the commands into the Gnome terminal and rebooted I did > not get the changes for making adminstration tasks accessible. You do know that 5.04 is no longer supported from a bug fix and security point of view? Indeed if you wanted to upgrade you'd find it difficult online due to the repositories no longer containing the packages for 5.04 or 5.10. Just thought I'd mention it. If you did want to upgrade you're probably better off backing up your home directory (for example to a USB stick/disk) and installing a newer (supported) release over the top, then restore your home directory. Cheers Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Can I disable the power button?
Alan Pope wrote: > Hi Jim, > > On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 19:05 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: >> James Tait wrote: >>> Dave Walker wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 14:28 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: You can confirm that this setting does not exist? http://daviey.mooo.com/powersettings.jpg >>> The drop-down is there for me, but I only have options to "Ask me", >>> "Suspend", "Hibernate" or "Shutdown". >> I can confirm the same options. There isn't a "Do nothing" option. I >> tried Alan's suggestion of --reinstall but this didn't alter the g-p-m >> interface. >> > > The screenshot you sent me looks like a really old version of g-p-m. > > http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=screenshots&id=Screenshot_Power_Management_Preferences > > I wonder if something hasn't been updated during your upgrades from > dapper->edgy->feisty. > > Can you just check ubuntu-desktop (and dependants) are installed > correctly:- > > sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop "ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version." no change in the power management application user interface. The previous --reinstall shows the same version as per previous posts 2.18.2-0 > > It will either just say it's already there, or it will pull in a bunch > of stuff that was missing. Can you also check your /etc/apt-sources.list > has all the necessary repos specified? Make it look a bit like what you > see in http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/295 > > Cheers, > Al. > -- Simple effective migration to Open Source based computing Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
