Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost desktop after messing with Compiz.....

[Juan J.]

On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 16:22 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
> On 19.10.11 12:22, scoundrel50a wrote:
> [...] 
> Setting up a new user account probably wouldn't have fixed that - it's a
> system setting rather than a user setting as I understand it.

You're wrong. That's why Pope's workaround worked: he logged with the
same user and reset unity.

Unless you set up something explicitly "for all the users" and the OS
asks you for your admin password, the configuration change only affects
to your user.

Regards,

Juan

PS: but I can be wrong too :)



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost desktop after messing with Compiz.....

[Neil Greenwood]

On 19.10.11 12:22, scoundrel50a wrote:
> On 19/10/2011 12:02, Alan Pope wrote:
>> On 19 October 2011 12:00, scoundrel50a  wrote:
>>> I was fiddling with compiz and decided to have a look at what the
>>> desktop
>>> cube looks like. One of the options said something about turning off the
>>> desktop. I stupidly pressed it, and now I have no desktop.Please can
>>> somebody helpI am running 11.10
>> Boot, press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get a console, login, type "unity --reset",
>> wait a moment or two, press CTRL+ALT+F7 to switch to GUI, login.
>>
>> Al.
>>
> Brilliant, that worked, I was panicking that I would have to set up a
> new account again.thank you so much...
> 
> 
> John
> 
Setting up a new user account probably wouldn't have fixed that - it's a
system setting rather than a user setting as I understand it.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recovery with live CD

[Colin Law]

On 19 October 2011 12:08, Andy Braben  wrote:
>
>
>> After other comments here: does gksudo nautilus work?
>
> YES
>>
>> Also - is nautilus still used in Ubuntu 11.10?
>
> YES
>>
>> In a live session - iirc, then in a terminal, just
>> su
>> will raise you to superuser level I think, then , to start (nautilus) just
>> nautilus
>> (??)
>
> YES, but that is the same as "sudo nautilus" which should be avoided as
> already stated.

Apparently we are not allowed to run nautilus or, for that matter,
gedit, via gksudo (or sudo).  See
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/805682
and
https://bugs.launchpad.net/gedit/+bug/838404

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost desktop after messing with Compiz.....

[scoundrel50a]

On 19/10/2011 12:02, Alan Pope wrote:

On 19 October 2011 12:00, scoundrel50a  wrote:

I was fiddling with compiz and decided to have a look at what the desktop
cube looks like. One of the options said something about turning off the
desktop. I stupidly pressed it, and now I have no desktop.Please can
somebody helpI am running 11.10

Boot, press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get a console, login, type "unity --reset",
wait a moment or two, press CTRL+ALT+F7 to switch to GUI, login.

Al.

Brilliant, that worked, I was panicking that I would have to set up a 
new account again.thank you so much...



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[ubuntu-uk] Recovery with live CD

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No worries. I've fixed it by mounting the hard drive in a new root directory 
and then sudo allows me to move the files.

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No worries. I've fixed it by mounting the hard drive in a new root directory 
and then sudo allows me to move the files.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recovery with live CD

[Andy Braben]

After other comments here: does gksudo nautilus work?
>
YES

> Also - is nautilus still used in Ubuntu 11.10?
>
YES

>
> In a live session - iirc, then in a terminal, just
> su
> will raise you to superuser level I think, then , to start (nautilus) just
> nautilus
> (??)
>

YES, but that is the same as "sudo nautilus" which should be avoided as
already stated.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recovery with live CD

[Steve Fisher]

On 19 October 2011 12:02, alan c  wrote:

> On 19/10/11 09:29, ** wrote:
> > I admit it I was stupid. I was doing an unattended upgrade of my
> > laptop to 11.10 and then stupidly turned off the mains power.
> > Needless to say the upgrade failed about an hour later and I can no
> > longer boot to the hard disk.
> >
> > I can boot with a live cd (it happens to be Mint because it's all I
> > have immediately available) on a USB stick and of course I am
> > having trouble with file permissions trying to save my /home
> > directory. Unfortunately when I try "sudo nautilus" however my hard
> > disk is not even visible (and I get a permission denied message)
> > although it is visible without the sudo but without the necessary
> > permissions.
>
> After other comments here: does gksudo nautilus work?
> Also - is nautilus still used in Ubuntu 11.10?
>
> In a live session - iirc, then in a terminal, just
> su
> will raise you to superuser level I think, then , to start (nautilus) just
> nautilus
> (??)
>
>
> hth
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Before you launch nautilus, try mounting the drive first with from the
command line or would Gparted do it???

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost desktop after messing with Compiz.....

[Alan Pope]

On 19 October 2011 12:00, scoundrel50a  wrote:
> I was fiddling with compiz and decided to have a look at what the desktop
> cube looks like. One of the options said something about turning off the
> desktop. I stupidly pressed it, and now I have no desktop.Please can
> somebody helpI am running 11.10

Boot, press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get a console, login, type "unity --reset",
wait a moment or two, press CTRL+ALT+F7 to switch to GUI, login.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recovery with live CD

[alan c]

On 19/10/11 09:29, ** wrote:
> I admit it I was stupid. I was doing an unattended upgrade of my
> laptop to 11.10 and then stupidly turned off the mains power.
> Needless to say the upgrade failed about an hour later and I can no
> longer boot to the hard disk.
> 
> I can boot with a live cd (it happens to be Mint because it's all I
> have immediately available) on a USB stick and of course I am
> having trouble with file permissions trying to save my /home
> directory. Unfortunately when I try "sudo nautilus" however my hard
> disk is not even visible (and I get a permission denied message)
> although it is visible without the sudo but without the necessary
> permissions.

After other comments here: does gksudo nautilus work?
Also - is nautilus still used in Ubuntu 11.10?

In a live session - iirc, then in a terminal, just
su
will raise you to superuser level I think, then , to start (nautilus) just
nautilus
(??)


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[ubuntu-uk] Lost desktop after messing with Compiz.....

[scoundrel50a]

I was fiddling with compiz and decided to have a look at what the 
desktop cube looks like. One of the options said something about turning 
off the desktop. I stupidly pressed it, and now I have no 
desktop.Please can somebody helpI am running 11.10


Thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recovery with live CD

[Barry Drake]

On 19/10/11 10:28, David Jones wrote:
Barry, the rational behind using gksudo and not sudo is explained here 
http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudoHope that reminds 
you of the reasoning behind it.


Ah - thanks for that - I'd only remembered that 'sudo nautilus' was a 
'must not'.  It makes a lot of sense now.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!

[Dave Morley]

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On 19/10/11 09:06, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
> On 19/10/11 09:03, Simon Greenwood wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 October 2011 08:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker
>> mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 18/10/11 18:49, Dave Morley wrote:
>>> If it's things that are missing the likelihood is it's only a 
>>> package away,  what you'll find is java can't be shipped by
>>> default and a lot of the packages can't ship without full java
>>> in place.
>>> 
>>> The online version comes with java builtin as LO and OO can
>>> ship it. What you'll find is there are several addition
>>> packages you can add to get the online version.
>>> 
>>> 
>> So how come prior versions were able to use Evolution
>> Addressbook by default then?
>> 
>> 
>> At one point StarOffice had a built in email client which I
>> *think* shares a fair bi t of architecture with Evolution. It was
>> dropped in version 4, before Sun bought it, but the address book
>> remained so it would appear that when Evolution and its data
>> storage system were integrated with Gnome, the API was still
>> there.
>> 
>> The change to Unity also includes a change to Desktop Couch as
>> the storage engine, principally because Evolution is still owned
>> by Novell. However, LibreOffice is still the same codebase as in
>> the pre-Oracle days so I would think it's not going to be
>> straightforward to introduce a new storage engine as a plugin. I
>> have this terrible feeling that at first it might have to be an
>> ODBC data provider...
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> OK so why don't Canonical just provide the version of LO that
> comes direct from the LO website?
> 
> 
> 

Gordon,

I redirect your attention to the post I made earlier, Ubuntu can't
ship java runtime by default, so it can't include all the parts that
are installed by default by the online version,  the packages are
available in the repos you just need to install java (via
ubuntu-restricted-extras it's just the easiest way) then install the
missing parts if you goto LO in Software Center you can open the main
LO package and see all of the missing parts.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyring password error

[Neil Greenwood]

On 13.10.11 16:58, dianne reuby wrote:
> I have 10.10 Ubuntu. Used my machine with no problems this morning. Just
> switched back on and logged on to my account OK. But I get a message
> that my login password and my keyring password don't match, and to enter
> the password.
> 
> Are the admin password and keyring password usually the same? And what
> can I have done to change the keyring password? Updates yesterday
> included linux headers, and today I think was only Chrome.
> 
> Password and Encryption shows only one password, and that's login - but
> it's blank, including date created. I can't reset - I don't know what
> the "old" password is set to, as it says it isn't my admin password.
> 
>[snip]

Sorry for the late reply.

I've seen this happen before when I've changed my user's password using
the Change Password option on the About Me applet. The keyring password
is the same as your user's login password normally (I think that's what
you mean by admin password, the login password you enter to administer
your machine).

There's a bug in that Change Password screen, where it updates the login
password but not the keyring password. If you open a terminal and use
"passwd" to change your password, that correctly keeps the 2 in sync.
It's been reported and was marked as a papercut at one point, but IIRC
there's too much work involved to fix it and no one has actually done
the fix.

If you have changed your password, you can get them back in sync like this:
1. log in as normal
2. Open the "Passwords and Encryption Keys" application
3. Right click the "login" option and choose Change Password. Enter your
old login password followed by your new password twice.

Of course, that only works if you can remember your old password. If you
can't I think you have to delete the "login" entry and create a new
keyring, but I have never done this so I'd search Google for some help.

>
> At the moment it won't even let me send email, even though I know the
> server passwords!
> TIA
> Dianne
>

You know them, but the email program can't access them! If you unlock or
delete the old entry, a new one should give the email program its memory
back...

HTH
Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recovery with live CD

[David Jones]

On 10/19/2011 10:20 AM, Barry Drake wrote:

On 19/10/11 09:29, ** wrote:
I can boot with a live cd (it happens to be Mint because it's all I 
have immediately available) on a USB stick and of course I am having 
trouble with file permissions trying to save my /home directory. 
Unfortunately when I try "sudo nautilus" however my hard disk is not 
even visible (and I get a permission denied message) although it is 
visible without the sudo but without the necessary permissions.
I remember somebody saying it's dangerous to do sudo nautilus, but OK 
to do gksudo nautilus. Can't remember why.


Regards, Barry.

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Barry, the rational behind using gksudo and not sudo is explained here 
http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo


Hope that reminds you of the reasoning behind it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recovery with live CD

[Barry Drake]

On 19/10/11 09:29, ** wrote:
I can boot with a live cd (it happens to be Mint because it's all I 
have immediately available) on a USB stick and of course I am having 
trouble with file permissions trying to save my /home directory. 
Unfortunately when I try "sudo nautilus" however my hard disk is not 
even visible (and I get a permission denied message) although it is 
visible without the sudo but without the necessary permissions.
I remember somebody saying it's dangerous to do sudo nautilus, but OK to 
do gksudo nautilus.  Can't remember why.


Regards,Barry.

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[ubuntu-uk] Recovery with live CD

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I admit it I was stupid. I was doing an unattended upgrade of my laptop to 
11.10 and then stupidly turned off the mains power. Needless to say the upgrade 
failed about an hour later and I can no longer boot to the hard disk.

I can boot with a live cd (it happens to be Mint because it's all I have 
immediately available) on a USB stick and of course I am having trouble with 
file permissions trying to save my /home directory. Unfortunately when I try 
"sudo nautilus" however my hard disk is not even visible (and I get a 
permission denied message) although it is visible without the sudo but without 
the necessary permissions.

Help


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!

[Matthew Daubney]

On 19 October 2011 09:06, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:

>
> OK so why don't Canonical just provide the version of LO that comes direct
> from the LO website?
>


My guess would be that it might not play nice with the OpenJDK (by
default), and since you're not allowed to distribute Oracles Java
stuff anymore, it would essentially mean shipping a completley
non-functioning product, rather than a very slightly crippled one?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

On 19/10/11 09:03, Simon Greenwood wrote:



On 19 October 2011 08:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker > wrote:


On 18/10/11 18:49, Dave Morley wrote:

If it's things that are missing the likelihood is it's only a package
away,  what you'll find is java can't be shipped by default and a lot
of the packages can't ship without full java in place.

The online version comes with java builtin as LO and OO can ship it.
What you'll find is there are several addition packages you can add to
get the online version.



So how come prior versions were able to use Evolution Addressbook
by default then?


At one point StarOffice had a built in email client which I *think* 
shares a fair bi t of architecture with Evolution. It was dropped in 
version 4, before Sun bought it, but the address book remained so it 
would appear that when Evolution and its data storage system were 
integrated with Gnome, the API was still there.


The change to Unity also includes a change to Desktop Couch as the 
storage engine, principally because Evolution is still owned by 
Novell. However, LibreOffice is still the same codebase as in the 
pre-Oracle days so I would think it's not going to be straightforward 
to introduce a new storage engine as a plugin. I have this terrible 
feeling that at first it might have to be an ODBC data provider...






OK so why don't Canonical just provide the version of LO that comes 
direct from the LO website?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] From 10.04 to 11.10?

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

On 18/10/11 16:02, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 18/10/2011 13:42, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

I presume I can't do an in-place upgrade?
I'm currently saving the contents of my Home directory as I write 
this so as to be able to install 11.10 and the copy the Home 
directory back.

Is that the only procedure?

OK - there was actually an Upgrade option on the 11.10 disk - I chose 
that and everything seems to be all hunky dory


All I had to do was to change he screen resolution during the install 
(this is a netbook and one of the dialog boxes went off screen so I 
couldn't click on the "continue" button) and tore-install Dropbox and 
Chrome. Otherwise, all functioning OK!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!

[Simon Greenwood]

On 19 October 2011 08:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:

>  On 18/10/11 18:49, Dave Morley wrote:
>
> If it's things that are missing the likelihood is it's only a package
> away,  what you'll find is java can't be shipped by default and a lot
> of the packages can't ship without full java in place.
>
> The online version comes with java builtin as LO and OO can ship it.
> What you'll find is there are several addition packages you can add to
> get the online version.
>
>
>
>  So how come prior versions were able to use Evolution Addressbook by
> default then?
>
>
At one point StarOffice had a built in email client which I *think* shares a
fair bi t of architecture with Evolution. It was dropped in version 4,
before Sun bought it, but the address book remained so it would appear that
when Evolution and its data storage system were integrated with Gnome, the
API was still there.

The change to Unity also includes a change to Desktop Couch as the storage
engine, principally because Evolution is still owned by Novell. However,
LibreOffice is still the same codebase as in the pre-Oracle days so I would
think it's not going to be straightforward to introduce a new storage engine
as a plugin. I have this terrible feeling that at first it might have to be
an ODBC data provider...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

On 18/10/11 18:49, Dave Morley wrote:

If it's things that are missing the likelihood is it's only a package
away,  what you'll find is java can't be shipped by default and a lot
of the packages can't ship without full java in place.

The online version comes with java builtin as LO and OO can ship it.
What you'll find is there are several addition packages you can add to
get the online version.


So how come prior versions were able to use Evolution Addressbook by 
default then?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!

[Philip Stubbs]

On 18 October 2011 17:57, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:
> Unfortunately I am not a programmer

Maybe this is an opportunity to do something about that? :-)

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