Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-11-01 Thread Tristan Wibberley

On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 12:32 +0100, Matthew Wild wrote:
> On 10/26/07, Matthew Larsen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> awesome. I wonder if thats a result of the e-mail I sent them?
> 
> You beat me to it then :)
> 
> I voted, just. Amazingly Linux is not as far behind as I would have
> expected.

This isn't on the front page of the technology section now, anybody got
a link to the results? I want to compare linux to the OSX options.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Rob Beard
Alec Wright wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:32 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote:
>> Think their polls work on ip addresses?
>>
>> Or think you could sit there and continually click linux?
>>
>> Daniel
> You can vote more than once - I accidentally voted 3 times when i was
> resfreshing the page to see how the results had changed
> 
> 

Whoopsie, my F5 key got stuck ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices - promoting the message?

2007-10-26 Thread Mark Harrison
A few thoughts here:

- The BBC aren't dumb. If people are constantly re-voting for the same 
option, they'll notice, and if Linux people are doing that more than the 
rest, they'll probably start looking askance at ANY figures that show 
Linux adoption.

- While it's not unknown for broadcasters to show "fixed results", it 
seems unlikely in this case, and to a certain extent it's not about what 
the punters see, but what the internal BBC execs will see... so please 
vote if you haven't.

- I've posted a quick link to the poll on another Linux-related list 
that hasn't already mentioned it. If you are a member of your local Lug 
list (and if not, why not?) and they haven't started talking about it, 
feel free to spread the link :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Colin Wylie




Alec Wright wrote:

  On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:32 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote:
  
  
Think their polls work on ip addresses?

Or think you could sit there and continually click linux?

Daniel

  
  You can vote more than once - I accidentally voted 3 times when i was
resfreshing the page to see how the results had changed


  

I gave it 5 refreshes for good measureĀ  ;)




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Peter Lewis
On Friday 26 October 2007 13:21, Chris Rowson wrote:
> > > Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a "No - Linux is my
> > > OS of choice" now.*
>
> ** WARNING - lolcats/topic crossover ***
>
> BBC r belong to de Linux peoplz now


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Alec Wright
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:32 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote:
> Think their polls work on ip addresses?
> 
> Or think you could sit there and continually click linux?
> 
> Daniel
You can vote more than once - I accidentally voted 3 times when i was
resfreshing the page to see how the results had changed


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread John Levin
Rob Beard wrote:
> 
> 
> Personally I think they got the poll wrong, I think it should have  
> said something like...
> 
> Yes - Steve Jobs is God and I buy anything he tells me to
> No - I've got an older pre-G4 867 PPC Mac
> No - Linux is my OS of choice
> No - I'm a Microsoft Fanboi/I haven't seen the penguin shaped light yet
> 
> I wonder what the older PPC Mac users will do.  I ended using my iMac  
> G3 as an LTSP client.
> 
> Rob
> 

I have a g3 iMac I use as a jukebox, running OS X 10.3. Been meaning to 
Ubuntize it, and get Amarok to perform the musical duties.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Daniel Lamb
Think their polls work on ip addresses?

Or think you could sit there and continually click linux?

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirrus
Sent: 26 October 2007 15:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; British Ubuntu Talk
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices


- "Philip Newborough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 26/10/2007, andylockran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Martyn wrote:
> > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
> > >>
> > >> Options:
> > >>
> > >> Will you be buying Leopard?
> > >>   > Yes - I need new spots!
> > >>   > No - Tiger for me!
> > >>   > I'm a Windows user!
> > >>
> > >> Vote!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Matthew G Larsen
> > >>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > The options have changed a bit now:
> > >
> > > Yes - I need new spots @18.26%
> > > No - I'm happy with Tiger   @ 5.61%
> > > No - Linux is my OS of choice   @ 11.62%
> > > No - I'm a Windows user   @ 64.49%
> > >
> > >
> > I find it strange that the percentages seem to change so little
> after
> > another 3000 votes.. I wouldn't have thought that there was such a
> clear
> > relationship between the first 2000 voters on the site, and the
> next
> > 3000.  Expecially as the Windows & Mac users were given a head
> start.
> > The linux figure popped up at ~11% when I first noticed it was added
> -
> > and no figures have changed by more than 1% since (according to my
> very
> > casual observation).
> > Are the BBC fixing the figures to justify the iPlayer?
> 
> So maybe a combined effort is needed to push the Linux percentage
> up!?
> Have we all blogged about it? has it been dugg? Just an idea.
> 

Andy's already beaten you to it ;)

http://digg.com/linux_unix/BBC_put_up_poll_without_Linux_option_let_s_show_t
hem

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Kirrus

- "Philip Newborough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 26/10/2007, andylockran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Martyn wrote:
> > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
> > >>
> > >> Options:
> > >>
> > >> Will you be buying Leopard?
> > >>   > Yes - I need new spots!
> > >>   > No - Tiger for me!
> > >>   > I'm a Windows user!
> > >>
> > >> Vote!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Matthew G Larsen
> > >>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > The options have changed a bit now:
> > >
> > > Yes - I need new spots @18.26%
> > > No - I'm happy with Tiger   @ 5.61%
> > > No - Linux is my OS of choice   @ 11.62%
> > > No - I'm a Windows user   @ 64.49%
> > >
> > >
> > I find it strange that the percentages seem to change so little
> after
> > another 3000 votes.. I wouldn't have thought that there was such a
> clear
> > relationship between the first 2000 voters on the site, and the
> next
> > 3000.  Expecially as the Windows & Mac users were given a head
> start.
> > The linux figure popped up at ~11% when I first noticed it was added
> -
> > and no figures have changed by more than 1% since (according to my
> very
> > casual observation).
> > Are the BBC fixing the figures to justify the iPlayer?
> 
> So maybe a combined effort is needed to push the Linux percentage
> up!?
> Have we all blogged about it? has it been dugg? Just an idea.
> 

Andy's already beaten you to it ;)

http://digg.com/linux_unix/BBC_put_up_poll_without_Linux_option_let_s_show_them

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Rob Beard
Quoting Philip Newborough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> So maybe a combined effort is needed to push the Linux percentage up!?
> Have we all blogged about it? has it been dugg? Just an idea.
>

Has it been posted on /. yet?

Personally I think they got the poll wrong, I think it should have  
said something like...

Yes - Steve Jobs is God and I buy anything he tells me to
No - I've got an older pre-G4 867 PPC Mac
No - Linux is my OS of choice
No - I'm a Microsoft Fanboi/I haven't seen the penguin shaped light yet

I wonder what the older PPC Mac users will do.  I ended using my iMac  
G3 as an LTSP client.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Rob Beard
Quoting Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>> > Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a "No - Linux is my OS
>> > of choice" now.*
>
> ** WARNING - lolcats/topic crossover ***
>
> BBC r belong to de Linux peoplz now
>

What you say?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Philip Newborough
On 26/10/2007, andylockran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martyn wrote:
> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
> >>
> >> Options:
> >>
> >> Will you be buying Leopard?
> >>   > Yes - I need new spots!
> >>   > No - Tiger for me!
> >>   > I'm a Windows user!
> >>
> >> Vote!
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matthew G Larsen
> >>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >
> > The options have changed a bit now:
> >
> > Yes - I need new spots @18.26%
> > No - I'm happy with Tiger   @ 5.61%
> > No - Linux is my OS of choice   @ 11.62%
> > No - I'm a Windows user   @ 64.49%
> >
> >
> I find it strange that the percentages seem to change so little after
> another 3000 votes.. I wouldn't have thought that there was such a clear
> relationship between the first 2000 voters on the site, and the next
> 3000.  Expecially as the Windows & Mac users were given a head start.
> The linux figure popped up at ~11% when I first noticed it was added -
> and no figures have changed by more than 1% since (according to my very
> casual observation).
> Are the BBC fixing the figures to justify the iPlayer?

So maybe a combined effort is needed to push the Linux percentage up!?
Have we all blogged about it? has it been dugg? Just an idea.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Tony Arnold
Andy,

On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 14:09 +0100, andylockran wrote:
> Martyn wrote:
> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
> >>
> >> Options:
> >>
> >> Will you be buying Leopard?
> >>   > Yes - I need new spots!
> >>   > No - Tiger for me!
> >>   > I'm a Windows user!
> >>
> >> Vote!
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matthew G Larsen
> >>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> 
> >
> > The options have changed a bit now:
> >
> > Yes - I need new spots @18.26%
> > No - I'm happy with Tiger   @ 5.61%
> > No - Linux is my OS of choice   @ 11.62%
> > No - I'm a Windows user   @ 64.49%
> >
> >   
> I find it strange that the percentages seem to change so little after 
> another 3000 votes.. I wouldn't have thought that there was such a clear 
> relationship between the first 2000 voters on the site, and the next 
> 3000.  Expecially as the Windows & Mac users were given a head start.
> The linux figure popped up at ~11% when I first noticed it was added - 
> and no figures have changed by more than 1% since (according to my very 
> casual observation).
> Are the BBC fixing the figures to justify the iPlayer?

What will the BBC do next? First a fake winner on Blue Peter, then
trying to fix the votes about the naming of a cat, dodgy footage of the
queen and now this! Quite frankly, I'm appalled:-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread andylockran
Martyn wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
>>
>> Options:
>>
>> Will you be buying Leopard?
>>   > Yes - I need new spots!
>>   > No - Tiger for me!
>>   > I'm a Windows user!
>>
>> Vote!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthew G Larsen
>>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> 
>
> The options have changed a bit now:
>
> Yes - I need new spots @18.26%
> No - I'm happy with Tiger   @ 5.61%
> No - Linux is my OS of choice   @ 11.62%
> No - I'm a Windows user   @ 64.49%
>
>   
I find it strange that the percentages seem to change so little after 
another 3000 votes.. I wouldn't have thought that there was such a clear 
relationship between the first 2000 voters on the site, and the next 
3000.  Expecially as the Windows & Mac users were given a head start.
The linux figure popped up at ~11% when I first noticed it was added - 
and no figures have changed by more than 1% since (according to my very 
casual observation).
Are the BBC fixing the figures to justify the iPlayer?

:)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Martyn
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
>
> Options:
>
> Will you be buying Leopard?
>   > Yes - I need new spots!
>   > No - Tiger for me!
>   > I'm a Windows user!
>
> Vote!
>
>
> --
> Matthew G Larsen
>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

The options have changed a bit now:

Yes - I need new spots @18.26%
No - I'm happy with Tiger   @ 5.61%
No - Linux is my OS of choice   @ 11.62%
No - I'm a Windows user   @ 64.49%

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread andylockran
Chris Rowson wrote:
>>> Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a "No - Linux is my OS
>>> of choice" now.*
>>>   
>
> ** WARNING - lolcats/topic crossover ***
>
> BBC r belong to de Linux peoplz now
>
>   
hmm..

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Chris Rowson
> > Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a "No - Linux is my OS
> > of choice" now.*

** WARNING - lolcats/topic crossover ***

BBC r belong to de Linux peoplz now

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Kris Marsh
On 10/26/07, Mark Steele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthew Larsen wrote:
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
> >
> > Options:
> >
> > Will you be buying Leopard?
> >> Yes - I need new spots!
> >> No - Tiger for me!
> >> I'm a Windows user!
> >
> > Vote!
> >
> >
> >
> Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a "No - Linux is my OS
> of choice" now.*
> *
>
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Awesome. I actually emailed them via the contact us page when I
noticed Matthew's original post (yes, I'm that sad). Looks like some
other people probably emailed them as well, to get them to change it
this quickly :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Matthew Wild
On 10/26/07, Matthew Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> awesome. I wonder if thats a result of the e-mail I sent them?
>

You beat me to it then :)

I voted, just. Amazingly Linux is not as far behind as I would have
expected.

The BBC are probably tired of us Linux users by now... :P

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Matthew Larsen
awesome. I wonder if thats a result of the e-mail I sent them?

Man im bored at work

On 26/10/2007, John Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Steele wrote:
> > Matthew Larsen wrote:
> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
> >>
> >> Options:
> >>
> >> Will you be buying Leopard?
> >>> Yes - I need new spots!
> >>> No - Tiger for me!
> >>> I'm a Windows user!
> >>
> >> Vote!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a "No - Linux is my OS
> > of choice" now.*
> > *
> >
>
> And linux is currently at 13.11%, compared to Windows at 61.31%
>
> John
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread John Levin
Mark Steele wrote:
> Matthew Larsen wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
>>
>> Options:
>>
>> Will you be buying Leopard?
>>> Yes - I need new spots!
>>> No - Tiger for me!
>>> I'm a Windows user!
>>
>> Vote!
>>
>>
>>   
> Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a "No - Linux is my OS 
> of choice" now.*
> *
> 

And linux is currently at 13.11%, compared to Windows at 61.31%

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Mark Steele
Matthew Larsen wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
>
> Options:
>
> Will you be buying Leopard?
>> Yes - I need new spots!
>> No - Tiger for me!
>> I'm a Windows user!
>
> Vote!
>
>
>   
Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a "No - Linux is my OS 
of choice" now.*
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[ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Matthew Larsen
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm

Options:

Will you be buying Leopard?
   > Yes - I need new spots!
   > No - Tiger for me!
   > I'm a Windows user!

Vote!


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