Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-10-01 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-09-29 14:03, Alan Pope wrote:
>> model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz
>>
>> Is there a way to verify the video model number?
> 
> Google the model number, first hit:-
> 
> http://ark.intel.com/products/53452/Intel-Core-i5-2450M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_10-GHz

I was hoping to do it with a local query, but that'll do. Thanks, Alan.

Consider this another report that the Intel HD 3000 works just fine with
Ubuntu 12.04. I've only tested 720p video with Totem and XBMC but that
worked fine.

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-09-29 Thread Colin Law
On 27 September 2012 19:41, Simon Redmond  wrote:
> Doh, sorry should have included that info... its not really a known
> brand, its made by PC Specialist. A colleague has a desktop PC built by
> them and is very happy.
>
> http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/genesisIV/

I am running Ubuntu 12.10 Beta on a Gensys IV (with a core i5
processor and onboard graphics) with very few problems.
There is a problem with the screen brightness function keys [1] but
there is a workaround and a fix has been released.
The only other problem I have had is with the SD card reader [2] but
again the workaround works.

Colin

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/806032
[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks/+bug/971876

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-09-29 Thread Alan Pope

On 29/09/12 12:15, Tyler J. Wagner wrote:

I wonder if I'm missing a way to identify my video chipset. My new laptop
is a Dell V131, which according to reviews contains HD3000 video. However,
lspci lists only:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core
Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)

/proc/cpuinfo shows:

model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz

Is there a way to verify the video model number?



Google the model number, first hit:-

http://ark.intel.com/products/53452/Intel-Core-i5-2450M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_10-GHz

Processor Graphics: Intel® HD Graphics 3000

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-09-29 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-09-28 21:38, Bruno Girin wrote:
> Same here. My laptop is a Lenovo with a Core i5-2520M (2nd gen Intel
> Core) which has HD3000 graphics too and it has run 11.10, 12.04 and now
> 12.10 amd64 with no problem whatsoever.

I wonder if I'm missing a way to identify my video chipset. My new laptop
is a Dell V131, which according to reviews contains HD3000 video. However,
lspci lists only:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core
Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)

/proc/cpuinfo shows:

model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz

Is there a way to verify the video model number?

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-09-28 Thread Bruno Girin
On 28/09/12 09:34, Alan Lord wrote:
>
>
> On 27/09/12 19:22, Simon Redmond wrote:
>> looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD
>> 3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support
>> was like under Ubuntu?
>
> FWIW I just upgraded my kids' PC with a new mobo and an Intel Core i3
> 2125 which has the HD3000 GPU and it is running very nicely indeed on
> 12.04. It's delivering very agreeable performance for an integrated
> GPU :-)

Same here. My laptop is a Lenovo with a Core i5-2520M (2nd gen Intel
Core) which has HD3000 graphics too and it has run 11.10, 12.04 and now
12.10 amd64 with no problem whatsoever. In fact, everything works
brilliantly, including wi-fi (Centrino Ultimate-N 6300), the HDMI port
(including sound via HDMI), and the built-in webcam.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-09-28 Thread Alan Lord



On 27/09/12 19:22, Simon Redmond wrote:

looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD
3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support
was like under Ubuntu?


FWIW I just upgraded my kids' PC with a new mobo and an Intel Core i3 
2125 which has the HD3000 GPU and it is running very nicely indeed on 
12.04. It's delivering very agreeable performance for an integrated GPU :-)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-09-27 Thread Simon Redmond
Unfortunately his desktop is nvidia based, so would help much, but am
encouraged to here they are made by the same manufacturer of System76
laptops which have pretty good reputation.

Cheers


On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 20:22 +0100, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: 
> On 2012-09-27 19:41, Simon Redmond wrote:
> > Doh, sorry should have included that info... its not really a known
> > brand, its made by PC Specialist. A colleague has a desktop PC built by
> > them and is very happy.
> > 
> > http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/genesisIV/
> 
> My advice would be to take an Ubuntu 12.04 Live USB stick over to his PC
> and boot it.
> 
> I've found Intel video to be totally reliable under Ubuntu for years now.
> More so than ATI or nVidia, although they all have their issues at times.
> 
> Regards,
> Tyler
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-09-27 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-09-27 19:41, Simon Redmond wrote:
> Doh, sorry should have included that info... its not really a known
> brand, its made by PC Specialist. A colleague has a desktop PC built by
> them and is very happy.
> 
> http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/genesisIV/

My advice would be to take an Ubuntu 12.04 Live USB stick over to his PC
and boot it.

I've found Intel video to be totally reliable under Ubuntu for years now.
More so than ATI or nVidia, although they all have their issues at times.

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-09-27 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 27 September 2012 19:41, Simon Redmond  wrote:

> Doh, sorry should have included that info... its not really a known
> brand, its made by PC Specialist. A colleague has a desktop PC built by
> them and is very happy.
>
> http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/genesisIV/
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 19:33 +0100, Paul Sladen wrote:
> > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Simon Redmond wrote:
> >
> > Greeting Simon,
> >
> > > looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD
> > > 3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support
> > > was like under Ubuntu?
> >
> > It will be easier for people to respond if you can share the make and
> > model of the laptop (or perhaps even the URL you are looking at).
> >
> >   -Paul
> >
> >
>

The PCSpecialist laptops are made by Clevo, who also make System 76's
laptops so they *should* be supported. In fact the System 76 Gazelle
Professional has an Intel 4000 card so you should be safe.

s/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-09-27 Thread Simon Redmond
Doh, sorry should have included that info... its not really a known
brand, its made by PC Specialist. A colleague has a desktop PC built by
them and is very happy.

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/genesisIV/


  
On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 19:33 +0100, Paul Sladen wrote: 
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Simon Redmond wrote:
> 
> Greeting Simon,
> 
> > looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD
> > 3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support
> > was like under Ubuntu?
> 
> It will be easier for people to respond if you can share the make and
> model of the laptop (or perhaps even the URL you are looking at).
> 
>   -Paul
> 
> 



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-09-27 Thread Paul Sladen
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Simon Redmond wrote:

Greeting Simon,

> looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD
> 3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support
> was like under Ubuntu?

It will be easier for people to respond if you can share the make and
model of the laptop (or perhaps even the URL you are looking at).

-Paul


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[ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

2012-09-27 Thread Simon Redmond
looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD
3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support
was like under Ubuntu?

Anyone with any experience good or bad?

Cheers
Simon


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop

2011-07-25 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 25 July 2011 11:26, Alan Lord (News)  wrote:
> Does it have VGA out? Does it suffer from this bug?
It does but I haven't tried it, the laptop is destined for my mother
and she doesn't have an external screen. She's more than 7 decades old
but have been using Ubuntu with Gnome for a long time now, I hope
she'll like KDE. :)

I'll try to test it for the bug before I hand over the laptop.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop

2011-07-25 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 25/07/11 10:51, Hakan Koseoglu wrote:


I purchased a cheap Acer (i3 CPU, 4GB ram, integrated gfx) from Ebuyer
for 350 and everything works. I was pleasantly surprised.



Does it have VGA out? Does it suffer from this bug?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/614238

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop

2011-07-25 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 25 July 2011 08:01, Neil Greenwood  wrote:
> I've had no problems at all with the Intel integrated graphics in my
> Dell Inspiron, ever since 7.10 with an upgrade to every version in
> between that and 11.04.
4.5 year old Inspiron 9400 and Intel card works fine but has
performance problems with KDE's funkiness on compiz.
1 year old Latitude E6410's NVidia is completely unusable with KDE's
compiz. Gnome works fine. Go figure.

I purchased a cheap Acer (i3 CPU, 4GB ram, integrated gfx) from Ebuyer
for 350 and everything works. I was pleasantly surprised.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop

2011-07-24 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 25.07.11 06:44, richard wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 21:24 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
>> Seen the Fujitsu LifeBook E751? 10 hours battery life. 15.6 inch
>> screen, i5 Core processor.  Bit pricey though as VAT runs it to £700+.
>>
>>
>> Acer Aspire Timeline X 4820T is another one. £500 odd but only 14 inch
>> screen. Lasts 8 hours.
>>
>>
>> Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)
>>
>>
> you might have problems with intel integrated graphics, I have had lots
> of stuff not work properly with mine.
> 
> 

I've had no problems at all with the Intel integrated graphics in my
Dell Inspiron, ever since 7.10 with an upgrade to every version in
between that and 11.04.

So, your mileage may vary.

Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop

2011-07-24 Thread richard
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 21:24 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
> Seen the Fujitsu LifeBook E751? 10 hours battery life. 15.6 inch
> screen, i5 Core processor.  Bit pricey though as VAT runs it to £700+.
> 
> 
> Acer Aspire Timeline X 4820T is another one. £500 odd but only 14 inch
> screen. Lasts 8 hours.
> 
> 
> Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 24 July 2011 21:11, Jon Farmer  wrote:
> Hi
> 
> In the next couple of months I am looking to replace my 2 year
> old netbook. The machine is starting to fall to bits after
> being in use most work days around the office and in data
> centres.
> 
> The new machine will mostly be used for web /  web apps and
> SSH sessions. One of the top features I am looking for is
> decent battery life. By that I mean at least 7 hours for those
> horrific days in a data centre. I have beening looking at
> Chrome books which have the desired battery uptime however I
> have decided I want to continue running Ubuntu.  The new Asus
> UX21 that should becoming out in September looks interesting.
> Anyone got any other suggestions? Oh I am looking for a 15"
> screen.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jon 
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop

2011-07-24 Thread Dino T.
Seen the Fujitsu LifeBook E751?* *10 hours battery life. 15.6 inch screen,
i5 Core processor.  Bit pricey though as VAT runs it to £700+.

Acer Aspire Timeline X 4820T is another one. £500 odd but only 14 inch
screen. Lasts 8 hours.

*
Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*




On 24 July 2011 21:11, Jon Farmer  wrote:

> Hi
>
> In the next couple of months I am looking to replace my 2 year old netbook.
> The machine is starting to fall to bits after being in use most work days
> around the office and in data centres.
>
> The new machine will mostly be used for web /  web apps and SSH sessions.
> One of the top features I am looking for is decent battery life. By that I
> mean at least 7 hours for those horrific days in a data centre. I have
> beening looking at Chrome books which have the desired battery uptime
> however I have decided I want to continue running Ubuntu.  The new Asus UX21
> that should becoming out in September looks interesting. Anyone got any
> other suggestions? Oh I am looking for a 15" screen.
>
> Regards
>
> Jon
>
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[ubuntu-uk] New Laptop

2011-07-24 Thread Jon Farmer
Hi

In the next couple of months I am looking to replace my 2 year old netbook.
The machine is starting to fall to bits after being in use most work days
around the office and in data centres.

The new machine will mostly be used for web /  web apps and SSH sessions.
One of the top features I am looking for is decent battery life. By that I
mean at least 7 hours for those horrific days in a data centre. I have
beening looking at Chrome books which have the desired battery uptime
however I have decided I want to continue running Ubuntu.  The new Asus UX21
that should becoming out in September looks interesting. Anyone got any
other suggestions? Oh I am looking for a 15" screen.

Regards

Jon

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop

2011-05-15 Thread Jim Price

On 14/05/11 22:18, Richard Smith wrote:

Thanks for your comments. I think I probably will buy one, and let you
know how I get on.


I look forward to that. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop

2011-05-15 Thread Jim Price

On 15/05/11 01:05, Kris Douglas wrote:

As far as I can tell, my girlfriend had the machine at the mo, it does not
have an expresscard slot, and I know it does have the double height return
key.


Thanks for that. It'll stay on my list for my next laptop as the money 
off for not having to purchase Windows with it is a plus point which 
other laptops with an ExpressCard are unlikely to match.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop

2011-05-14 Thread Kris Douglas
As far as I can tell, my girlfriend had the machine at the mo, it does not
have an expresscard slot, and I know it does have the double height return
key.
On May 15, 2011 12:17 AM, "Jim Price"  wrote:
> On 14/05/11 22:50, Kris Douglas wrote:
>> I have one from PCS, they don't use US keyboards. I asked on the phone,
they
>> are just from US suppliers stock photos.
>
> May I ask if it has the UK style double-height return key or is it the
> same height as the rest of the keys?
>
> The other thing you might be able to clear up is whether there is an
> ExpressCard slot. It looks like there might be one on the left hand
> side, but that might be the memory card slot. I'm in danger of buying
> one if it has both of the above - the processor performance figures make
> it sound faster than my desktop machine.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop

2011-05-14 Thread Jim Price

On 14/05/11 22:50, Kris Douglas wrote:

I have one from PCS, they don't use US keyboards. I asked on the phone, they
are just from US suppliers stock photos.


May I ask if it has the UK style double-height return key or is it the 
same height as the rest of the keys?


The other thing you might be able to clear up is whether there is an 
ExpressCard slot. It looks like there might be one on the left hand 
side, but that might be the memory card slot. I'm in danger of buying 
one if it has both of the above - the processor performance figures make 
it sound faster than my desktop machine.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop

2011-05-14 Thread Kris Douglas
I have one from PCS, they don't use US keyboards. I asked on the phone, they
are just from US suppliers stock photos.
On May 14, 2011 2:52 PM, "Jim Price"  wrote:
> On 13/05/11 10:57, Richard Smith wrote:
>> I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone
>> see any major problems with ubuntu on it.
>> http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/
>
> The Xenon has the Sandy Bridge laptop processor/chipset. Ubuntu 11.04
> has Sandy Bridge support. I'm not sure about previous releases, but I
> would expect getting them to work might involve using a PPA or two.
>
> Removing the OS does reduce the price by the cost of the OS. That is
> rather rare to see - even Dell Ubuntu machines don't tend to manage that.
>
> I would point out that it has a glossy screen (which I'm not a fan of,
> but can live with) and the photos suggest the keyboard has a single
> height return key (my personal keyboard pet hate - but many Acer laptop
> photos have that whereas the UK spec machines have the proper double
> height return key). In fact, the photos are of a machine with a US
keyboard.
>
> The graphics won't win any prizes either, but should be OK.
>
> Another thing which annoys me about Intel laptops is the need to
> research the processor in detail to ensure it supports the features I
> need - that just isn't an issue with AMD laptops, as they don't remove
> features for marketing purposes. At least with this laptop you have a
> choice of processors. I just wish the AMD ones had better battery life.
>
> It doesn't mention eSATA or USB 3 in the specs, and it isn't clear to me
> if it has an ExpressCard slot. If it has none of those, that is going to
> make it awkward to connect fast external devices.
>
> Those are the only criticisms I would have from looking at the web page.
> The only things which would to stop me adding this to my list of
> possibilities for my next laptop are the US keyboard and the ExpressCard
> slot, and both of those are things which the suppliers may be able to
> confirm are not problems anyway. Other than that, it looks like a rather
> nice laptop for a pretty good price without Windows. I'd be interested
> to know more about it if you get one.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop

2011-05-14 Thread Richard Smith
Thanks for your comments. I think I probably will buy one, and let you
know how I get on. I am not a big gamer so hopefully the graphics won't
be an issue, and I can't type that fast so likewise with the keyboard.
As I haven't used windows for a couple of years, and don't feel I am
missing anything, I wanted something without an os, which isn't easy to
find. 
On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 14:51 +0100, Jim Price wrote:
> On 13/05/11 10:57, Richard Smith wrote:
> > I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone
> > see any major problems with ubuntu on it.
> > http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/
> 
> The Xenon has the Sandy Bridge laptop processor/chipset. Ubuntu 11.04 
> has Sandy Bridge support. I'm not sure about previous releases, but I 
> would expect getting them to work might involve using a PPA or two.
> 
> Removing the OS does reduce the price by the cost of the OS. That is 
> rather rare to see - even Dell Ubuntu machines don't tend to manage that.
> 
> I would point out that it has a glossy screen (which I'm not a fan of, 
> but can live with) and the photos suggest the keyboard has a single 
> height return key (my personal keyboard pet hate - but many Acer laptop 
> photos have that whereas the UK spec machines have the proper double 
> height return key). In fact, the photos are of a machine with a US keyboard.
> 
> The graphics won't win any prizes either, but should be OK.
> 
> Another thing which annoys me about Intel laptops is the need to 
> research the processor in detail to ensure it supports the features I 
> need - that just isn't an issue with AMD laptops, as they don't remove 
> features for marketing purposes. At least with this laptop you have a 
> choice of processors. I just wish the AMD ones had better battery life.
> 
> It doesn't mention eSATA or USB 3 in the specs, and it isn't clear to me 
> if it has an ExpressCard slot. If it has none of those, that is going to 
> make it awkward to connect fast external devices.
> 
> Those are the only criticisms I would have from looking at the web page. 
> The only things which would  to stop me adding this to my list of 
> possibilities for my next laptop are the US keyboard and the ExpressCard 
> slot, and both of those are things which the suppliers may be able to 
> confirm are not problems anyway. Other than that, it looks like a rather 
> nice laptop for a pretty good price without Windows. I'd be interested 
> to know more about it if you get one.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop

2011-05-14 Thread Jim Price

On 13/05/11 10:57, Richard Smith wrote:

I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone
see any major problems with ubuntu on it.
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/


The Xenon has the Sandy Bridge laptop processor/chipset. Ubuntu 11.04 
has Sandy Bridge support. I'm not sure about previous releases, but I 
would expect getting them to work might involve using a PPA or two.


Removing the OS does reduce the price by the cost of the OS. That is 
rather rare to see - even Dell Ubuntu machines don't tend to manage that.


I would point out that it has a glossy screen (which I'm not a fan of, 
but can live with) and the photos suggest the keyboard has a single 
height return key (my personal keyboard pet hate - but many Acer laptop 
photos have that whereas the UK spec machines have the proper double 
height return key). In fact, the photos are of a machine with a US keyboard.


The graphics won't win any prizes either, but should be OK.

Another thing which annoys me about Intel laptops is the need to 
research the processor in detail to ensure it supports the features I 
need - that just isn't an issue with AMD laptops, as they don't remove 
features for marketing purposes. At least with this laptop you have a 
choice of processors. I just wish the AMD ones had better battery life.


It doesn't mention eSATA or USB 3 in the specs, and it isn't clear to me 
if it has an ExpressCard slot. If it has none of those, that is going to 
make it awkward to connect fast external devices.


Those are the only criticisms I would have from looking at the web page. 
The only things which would  to stop me adding this to my list of 
possibilities for my next laptop are the US keyboard and the ExpressCard 
slot, and both of those are things which the suppliers may be able to 
confirm are not problems anyway. Other than that, it looks like a rather 
nice laptop for a pretty good price without Windows. I'd be interested 
to know more about it if you get one.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop

2011-05-13 Thread doug livesey
Nice.
Just played "what if?" with the specs on that -- got it to a cool £1,600
easy! :)

On 13 May 2011 12:16, Trevor Hyde  wrote:

> On 13/05/11 10:57, Richard Smith wrote:
>
>> I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone
>> see any major problems with ubuntu on it.
>> http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/
>>
>>
>>
>>  Doesn't appear to be be over exotic as far as ubuntu's concerned.
>
> Nice to see how the price falls away when you dispense with the Windows
> options!
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop

2011-05-13 Thread Trevor Hyde

On 13/05/11 10:57, Richard Smith wrote:

I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone
see any major problems with ubuntu on it.
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/




Doesn't appear to be be over exotic as far as ubuntu's concerned.

Nice to see how the price falls away when you dispense with the Windows 
options!


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop

2011-05-13 Thread Tony Pursell
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:57 +0100, Richard Smith wrote:
> I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone
> see any major problems with ubuntu on it.
> http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/
> 
> 
> 

A google search for 'pcspecialist laptop linux' pulled up a number of
relevant hits. Most interesting is from their own tech forum:

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?3748-Ubuntu-compatible-laptop

If you are going to buy it would seem best to get a list of the major
components they use and see if any of them have difficulties.  Wifi
always seems to cause great heartache if it doesn't work OOTB (out of
the box).  You would also want to know if the video supports 3D Unity.

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[ubuntu-uk] new laptop

2011-05-13 Thread Richard Smith
I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone
see any major problems with ubuntu on it.
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-29 Thread Matthew Daubney
On 29/12/09 09:24, darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote:
> Personally I'd just refuse the EULA and get a refund on Windows. Not
> enough people do this. If manufacturers saw quite a few more EULAs being
> refused they would have to take more notice.
>
>
>
Normally I would do so, but now I'm starting to have to support windows 
users at work, and would quite like to bug squash wubi and so on, so do 
have a valid case for keeping it. Also, there's been a slight change of 
plan because of people discontinuing things! Now getting a Thinkpad SL510!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-29 Thread Darren.Mansell
Personally I'd just refuse the EULA and get a refund on Windows. Not
enough people do this. If manufacturers saw quite a few more EULAs being
refused they would have to take more notice.

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Just a quick note to say thanks to all for advice and opinions. I've 
ended up getting a Lenovo Thinkpad SL500 after reviewing everyones 
opinions. I'm unsure what to do with the windows licence it comes with, 
but may keep it to enable me to test things like Wubi properly.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-26 Thread Matthew Daubney
Just a quick note to say thanks to all for advice and opinions. I've 
ended up getting a Lenovo Thinkpad SL500 after reviewing everyones 
opinions. I'm unsure what to do with the windows licence it comes with, 
but may keep it to enable me to test things like Wubi properly.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hi,

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:14:56PM +, Alan Pope wrote:
> May last few laptops have included a Dell XPS (never again after they 
> refused to replace the video card that broke multiple times), Asus EEE (not 
> again until they sell them again with Linux), Toshiba (never again - 
> apalling build quality, requirement for Windows to BIOS update). Work 
> laptops have included Thinkpad, HP and Fujitsu/Siemens. 
> 
> Of all of those I am now certain my next full size laptop will be a 
> thinkpad. End of story.

Interesting.  I may be in the market for a new general purpose
laptop in early 2010.

I currently use a Thinkpad R61 and I'm reasonably happy with it
although the Intel wireless is hopeless under the
currently-installed Jaunty (haven't tried upgrading yet, I work
around it with a PC wifi card).

It's a 15.4" screen with a resolution of 1680x1050 and that's really
spoilt me.  While I find 15.4" a little hefty when out and about, I
really like the high resolution.

I was looking around the Lenovo site and it seems like they don't
offer as high resolutions anymore on the 14" models.  I might have
been willing to go down to 1440x1050 or 1440x900 but it doesn't seem
available.

I was interested in what other brands were highly valued but your
post has made me more likely to stick with Thinkpads, if I could
find a good balance of size vs. resolution..

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-23 Thread Bruce Beardall
I haven't had any direct experience but I've had my eye on PC Specialist -
www.pcspecialist.co.uk - for a while. Pretty decent prices and you're able
to configure the laptop/PC to pretty much whatever you want including the
option of "No Operating System" [certainly much more of a configuration on
offer than anything Novatech has]. It would be interesting if anyone else
has experience with them.

2009/12/23 Matthew Daubney 

> Hello,
>
> It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit
> cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as well).
> So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd like a
> core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4 GB of RAM,
> don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM though, and a
> seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be nice.
>
> The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use, bit of
> web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it doesn't
> need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick.
>
> I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3
> possibilities:
>
> 1. Novatech X16 HD Pro -
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html
> 2. Acer Aspire 5738 -
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
> 3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506
>
> Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even
> seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me. If
> anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any
> others you think fit the bill.
>
> Any opinions welcome :)
>
> -Matt Daubney
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-23 Thread alan c
Rowan Berkeley wrote:
[...]
> I bought a Lenovo N500 with Ubuntu from the Linux Emporium in July for
> £457.70 all incl., and I haven't had a single problem with it. Check
> their web page for the exact specs on all the machines they offer:
> http://linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/

I helped three friends buy laptops from Linux emporium and they were
delighted, and I was to.
I think the machines were two Lenovo and one asus or acer(?) because
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-23 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 12:00 +, Matthew Daubney 
wrote:
> Hello,
> It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit
> cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as
> well). So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd
> like a core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4
> GB of RAM, don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM
> though, and a seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be
> nice. The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use,
> bit of web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it
> doesn't need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick. I've a
> budget of about ?500, and my research so far has hilighted 3 
> possibilities:
> 1. Novatech X16 HD Pro - 
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html
> 2. Acer Aspire 5738 - 
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
> 3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506
> Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even 
> seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me.
> If anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any
> others you think fit the bill. Any opinions welcome :) -Matt Daubney

I bought a Lenovo N500 with Ubuntu from the Linux Emporium in July for
£457.70 all incl., and I haven't had a single problem with it. Check
their web page for the exact specs on all the machines they offer:
http://linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-23 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:57:52AM +, Matthew Daubney wrote:
> I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3 
> possibilities:
> 

Of the three you've listed I'd only consider Samsung, based on 2nd hand 
opinions from trusted friends and podcasters.

May last few laptops have included a Dell XPS (never again after they 
refused to replace the video card that broke multiple times), Asus EEE (not 
again until they sell them again with Linux), Toshiba (never again - 
apalling build quality, requirement for Windows to BIOS update). Work 
laptops have included Thinkpad, HP and Fujitsu/Siemens. 

Of all of those I am now certain my next full size laptop will be a 
thinkpad. End of story.

If price is an issue then you could get a refurb/2nd user one here:-

http://www.sterlingxs.co.uk/scpages/ibmtoshibalaptops.html

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-23 Thread Steve
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:05:42 -, Rob Beard  wrote:

> On 23/12/2009 10:57, Matthew Daubney wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit
>> cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as well).
>> So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd like a
>> core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4 GB of RAM,
>> don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM though, and a
>> seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be nice.
>>
>> The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use, bit of
>> web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it doesn't
>> need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick.
>>
>> I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3
>> possibilities:
>>
>> 1. Novatech X16 HD Pro -
>> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html
>> 2. Acer Aspire 5738 -
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>> 3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even
>> seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me. If
>> anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any
>> others you think fit the bill.
>>
>> Any opinions welcome :)
>>
>> -Matt Daubney
>>
>
> One of my old customers had some Novatech laptops, they're basically
> generic rebranded laptops, I believe manufactured by the likes of Mitac.
>
> Wasn't very impressed myself, the build quality was poor and they all
> either failed or fell to pieces within a couple of years.
>
The build quality is a bit doubtful, you can see/feel where they have  
tried to save money. I have dealt with a company that had a few and, as  
Rob said, they don’t survive long even when left on a desk.
>


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-23 Thread Darren.Mansell
Personally I would only go for Lenovo or Dell for Linux laptops. No-one else 
seems bothered about broken BIOS's and ACPI implementations.

Why not Intel graphics? Whatever you do don't go ATi/AMD graphics. I'm stuck 
with an ATi HD 3400 R600 in this Toshiba laptop. The ACPI is broken and the VGA 
doesn't report correctly meaning the binary fglrx driver won't work with it. 
I'm having to run a Lucid kernel on Karmic with xorg-edgers git builds to get 
kwin compositing. Because of the buggy ACPI it won't S3 suspend, battery 
charging doesn't report correctly so I have no power management etc.

All because Toshiba had to break the BIOS to get it to pass Microsoft HCT tests 
so they could put the "designed for Windows" stickers on the case and get a 50% 
reduction in OEM licences...

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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

Hello,

It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit 
cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as well). 
So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd like a 
core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4 GB of RAM, 
don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM though, and a 
seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be nice.

The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use, bit of 
web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it doesn't 
need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick.

I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3 
possibilities:

1. Novatech X16 HD Pro - 
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html
2. Acer Aspire 5738 - 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506

Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even 
seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me. If 
anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any 
others you think fit the bill.

Any opinions welcome :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-23 Thread Matthew Daubney
On 23/12/09 11:05, Rob Beard wrote:
>
> One of my old customers had some Novatech laptops, they're basically
> generic rebranded laptops, I believe manufactured by the likes of Mitac.
>
> Wasn't very impressed myself, the build quality was poor and they all
> either failed or fell to pieces within a couple of years.
>
> I've got an Acer Aspire 2920 and I can't fault it myself, plus a 3 year
> extended warranty is something like £60 and it covers accidental damage.
>
> I've also had a play with a Samsung, not the R520, I think it was an
> R500 or something along those lines.  It's a nice little machine and
> does the job well (a friend of mine has one, seems solidly built).
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>
Really? Thats a bit of a shame, they where coming out on top in terms of 
price for what they where offering. I suppose I could go into their 
Reading store and have a look.

Have you ever had to deal with Acer or Samsung? Are they very easy to 
deal with or worse than average?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-23 Thread Rob Beard
On 23/12/2009 10:57, Matthew Daubney wrote:
> Hello,
>
> It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit
> cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as well).
> So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd like a
> core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4 GB of RAM,
> don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM though, and a
> seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be nice.
>
> The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use, bit of
> web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it doesn't
> need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick.
>
> I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3
> possibilities:
>
> 1. Novatech X16 HD Pro -
> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html
> 2. Acer Aspire 5738 -
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
> 3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506
>
> Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even
> seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me. If
> anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any
> others you think fit the bill.
>
> Any opinions welcome :)
>
> -Matt Daubney
>

One of my old customers had some Novatech laptops, they're basically 
generic rebranded laptops, I believe manufactured by the likes of Mitac.

Wasn't very impressed myself, the build quality was poor and they all 
either failed or fell to pieces within a couple of years.

I've got an Acer Aspire 2920 and I can't fault it myself, plus a 3 year 
extended warranty is something like £60 and it covers accidental damage.

I've also had a play with a Samsung, not the R520, I think it was an 
R500 or something along those lines.  It's a nice little machine and 
does the job well (a friend of mine has one, seems solidly built).

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[ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time

2009-12-23 Thread Matthew Daubney
Hello,

It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit 
cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as well). 
So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd like a 
core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4 GB of RAM, 
don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM though, and a 
seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be nice.

The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use, bit of 
web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it doesn't 
need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick.

I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3 
possibilities:

1. Novatech X16 HD Pro - 
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html
2. Acer Aspire 5738 - 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506

Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even 
seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me. If 
anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any 
others you think fit the bill.

Any opinions welcome :)

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