Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
On 2012-09-29 14:03, Alan Pope wrote: >> model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz >> >> Is there a way to verify the video model number? > > Google the model number, first hit:- > > http://ark.intel.com/products/53452/Intel-Core-i5-2450M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_10-GHz I was hoping to do it with a local query, but that'll do. Thanks, Alan. Consider this another report that the Intel HD 3000 works just fine with Ubuntu 12.04. I've only tested 720p video with Totem and XBMC but that worked fine. Regards, Tyler -- There is no "eastern" and "western" medicine. There's "medicine" and then there's "stuff that has not been proven to work." -- Maki Naro, "The Red Flags of Quackery, v2.0", Sci-ence.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
On 27 September 2012 19:41, Simon Redmond wrote: > Doh, sorry should have included that info... its not really a known > brand, its made by PC Specialist. A colleague has a desktop PC built by > them and is very happy. > > http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/genesisIV/ I am running Ubuntu 12.10 Beta on a Gensys IV (with a core i5 processor and onboard graphics) with very few problems. There is a problem with the screen brightness function keys [1] but there is a workaround and a fix has been released. The only other problem I have had is with the SD card reader [2] but again the workaround works. Colin [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/806032 [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks/+bug/971876 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
On 29/09/12 12:15, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: I wonder if I'm missing a way to identify my video chipset. My new laptop is a Dell V131, which according to reviews contains HD3000 video. However, lspci lists only: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) /proc/cpuinfo shows: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz Is there a way to verify the video model number? Google the model number, first hit:- http://ark.intel.com/products/53452/Intel-Core-i5-2450M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_10-GHz Processor Graphics: Intel® HD Graphics 3000 Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
On 2012-09-28 21:38, Bruno Girin wrote: > Same here. My laptop is a Lenovo with a Core i5-2520M (2nd gen Intel > Core) which has HD3000 graphics too and it has run 11.10, 12.04 and now > 12.10 amd64 with no problem whatsoever. I wonder if I'm missing a way to identify my video chipset. My new laptop is a Dell V131, which according to reviews contains HD3000 video. However, lspci lists only: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) /proc/cpuinfo shows: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz Is there a way to verify the video model number? Regards, Tyler -- "It is an interesting and demonstrable fact, that all children are atheists and were religion not inculcated into their minds, they would remain so." -- Ernestine Rose -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
On 28/09/12 09:34, Alan Lord wrote: > > > On 27/09/12 19:22, Simon Redmond wrote: >> looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD >> 3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support >> was like under Ubuntu? > > FWIW I just upgraded my kids' PC with a new mobo and an Intel Core i3 > 2125 which has the HD3000 GPU and it is running very nicely indeed on > 12.04. It's delivering very agreeable performance for an integrated > GPU :-) Same here. My laptop is a Lenovo with a Core i5-2520M (2nd gen Intel Core) which has HD3000 graphics too and it has run 11.10, 12.04 and now 12.10 amd64 with no problem whatsoever. In fact, everything works brilliantly, including wi-fi (Centrino Ultimate-N 6300), the HDMI port (including sound via HDMI), and the built-in webcam. Cheers, Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
On 27/09/12 19:22, Simon Redmond wrote: looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD 3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support was like under Ubuntu? FWIW I just upgraded my kids' PC with a new mobo and an Intel Core i3 2125 which has the HD3000 GPU and it is running very nicely indeed on 12.04. It's delivering very agreeable performance for an integrated GPU :-) Al -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
Unfortunately his desktop is nvidia based, so would help much, but am encouraged to here they are made by the same manufacturer of System76 laptops which have pretty good reputation. Cheers On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 20:22 +0100, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > On 2012-09-27 19:41, Simon Redmond wrote: > > Doh, sorry should have included that info... its not really a known > > brand, its made by PC Specialist. A colleague has a desktop PC built by > > them and is very happy. > > > > http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/genesisIV/ > > My advice would be to take an Ubuntu 12.04 Live USB stick over to his PC > and boot it. > > I've found Intel video to be totally reliable under Ubuntu for years now. > More so than ATI or nVidia, although they all have their issues at times. > > Regards, > Tyler > > -- > "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent > revolution inevitable." >-- John F. Kennedy > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
On 2012-09-27 19:41, Simon Redmond wrote: > Doh, sorry should have included that info... its not really a known > brand, its made by PC Specialist. A colleague has a desktop PC built by > them and is very happy. > > http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/genesisIV/ My advice would be to take an Ubuntu 12.04 Live USB stick over to his PC and boot it. I've found Intel video to be totally reliable under Ubuntu for years now. More so than ATI or nVidia, although they all have their issues at times. Regards, Tyler -- "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
On 27 September 2012 19:41, Simon Redmond wrote: > Doh, sorry should have included that info... its not really a known > brand, its made by PC Specialist. A colleague has a desktop PC built by > them and is very happy. > > http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/genesisIV/ > > > > On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 19:33 +0100, Paul Sladen wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Simon Redmond wrote: > > > > Greeting Simon, > > > > > looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD > > > 3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support > > > was like under Ubuntu? > > > > It will be easier for people to respond if you can share the make and > > model of the laptop (or perhaps even the URL you are looking at). > > > > -Paul > > > > > The PCSpecialist laptops are made by Clevo, who also make System 76's laptops so they *should* be supported. In fact the System 76 Gazelle Professional has an Intel 4000 card so you should be safe. s/ > > -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood "TBA are particularly glib" -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
Doh, sorry should have included that info... its not really a known brand, its made by PC Specialist. A colleague has a desktop PC built by them and is very happy. http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/genesisIV/ On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 19:33 +0100, Paul Sladen wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Simon Redmond wrote: > > Greeting Simon, > > > looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD > > 3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support > > was like under Ubuntu? > > It will be easier for people to respond if you can share the make and > model of the laptop (or perhaps even the URL you are looking at). > > -Paul > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Simon Redmond wrote: Greeting Simon, > looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD > 3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support > was like under Ubuntu? It will be easier for people to respond if you can share the make and model of the laptop (or perhaps even the URL you are looking at). -Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] new Laptop
looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD 3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support was like under Ubuntu? Anyone with any experience good or bad? Cheers Simon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop
On 25 July 2011 11:26, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > Does it have VGA out? Does it suffer from this bug? It does but I haven't tried it, the laptop is destined for my mother and she doesn't have an external screen. She's more than 7 decades old but have been using Ubuntu with Gnome for a long time now, I hope she'll like KDE. :) I'll try to test it for the bug before I hand over the laptop. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop
On 25/07/11 10:51, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: I purchased a cheap Acer (i3 CPU, 4GB ram, integrated gfx) from Ebuyer for 350 and everything works. I was pleasantly surprised. Does it have VGA out? Does it suffer from this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/614238 Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop
On 25 July 2011 08:01, Neil Greenwood wrote: > I've had no problems at all with the Intel integrated graphics in my > Dell Inspiron, ever since 7.10 with an upgrade to every version in > between that and 11.04. 4.5 year old Inspiron 9400 and Intel card works fine but has performance problems with KDE's funkiness on compiz. 1 year old Latitude E6410's NVidia is completely unusable with KDE's compiz. Gnome works fine. Go figure. I purchased a cheap Acer (i3 CPU, 4GB ram, integrated gfx) from Ebuyer for 350 and everything works. I was pleasantly surprised. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop
On 25.07.11 06:44, richard wrote: > On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 21:24 +0100, Dino T. wrote: >> Seen the Fujitsu LifeBook E751? 10 hours battery life. 15.6 inch >> screen, i5 Core processor. Bit pricey though as VAT runs it to £700+. >> >> >> Acer Aspire Timeline X 4820T is another one. £500 odd but only 14 inch >> screen. Lasts 8 hours. >> >> >> Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons) >> >> > you might have problems with intel integrated graphics, I have had lots > of stuff not work properly with mine. > > I've had no problems at all with the Intel integrated graphics in my Dell Inspiron, ever since 7.10 with an upgrade to every version in between that and 11.04. So, your mileage may vary. Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 21:24 +0100, Dino T. wrote: > Seen the Fujitsu LifeBook E751? 10 hours battery life. 15.6 inch > screen, i5 Core processor. Bit pricey though as VAT runs it to £700+. > > > Acer Aspire Timeline X 4820T is another one. £500 odd but only 14 inch > screen. Lasts 8 hours. > > > Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons) > > > > > On 24 July 2011 21:11, Jon Farmer wrote: > Hi > > In the next couple of months I am looking to replace my 2 year > old netbook. The machine is starting to fall to bits after > being in use most work days around the office and in data > centres. > > The new machine will mostly be used for web / web apps and > SSH sessions. One of the top features I am looking for is > decent battery life. By that I mean at least 7 hours for those > horrific days in a data centre. I have beening looking at > Chrome books which have the desired battery uptime however I > have decided I want to continue running Ubuntu. The new Asus > UX21 that should becoming out in September looks interesting. > Anyone got any other suggestions? Oh I am looking for a 15" > screen. > > Regards > > Jon > > Sent from my IPad3 > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > you might have problems with intel integrated graphics, I have had lots of stuff not work properly with mine. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop
Seen the Fujitsu LifeBook E751?* *10 hours battery life. 15.6 inch screen, i5 Core processor. Bit pricey though as VAT runs it to £700+. Acer Aspire Timeline X 4820T is another one. £500 odd but only 14 inch screen. Lasts 8 hours. * Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)* On 24 July 2011 21:11, Jon Farmer wrote: > Hi > > In the next couple of months I am looking to replace my 2 year old netbook. > The machine is starting to fall to bits after being in use most work days > around the office and in data centres. > > The new machine will mostly be used for web / web apps and SSH sessions. > One of the top features I am looking for is decent battery life. By that I > mean at least 7 hours for those horrific days in a data centre. I have > beening looking at Chrome books which have the desired battery uptime > however I have decided I want to continue running Ubuntu. The new Asus UX21 > that should becoming out in September looks interesting. Anyone got any > other suggestions? Oh I am looking for a 15" screen. > > Regards > > Jon > > Sent from my IPad3 > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] New Laptop
Hi In the next couple of months I am looking to replace my 2 year old netbook. The machine is starting to fall to bits after being in use most work days around the office and in data centres. The new machine will mostly be used for web / web apps and SSH sessions. One of the top features I am looking for is decent battery life. By that I mean at least 7 hours for those horrific days in a data centre. I have beening looking at Chrome books which have the desired battery uptime however I have decided I want to continue running Ubuntu. The new Asus UX21 that should becoming out in September looks interesting. Anyone got any other suggestions? Oh I am looking for a 15" screen. Regards Jon Sent from my IPad3 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop
On 14/05/11 22:18, Richard Smith wrote: Thanks for your comments. I think I probably will buy one, and let you know how I get on. I look forward to that. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. -- JimP -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop
On 15/05/11 01:05, Kris Douglas wrote: As far as I can tell, my girlfriend had the machine at the mo, it does not have an expresscard slot, and I know it does have the double height return key. Thanks for that. It'll stay on my list for my next laptop as the money off for not having to purchase Windows with it is a plus point which other laptops with an ExpressCard are unlikely to match. -- JimP -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop
As far as I can tell, my girlfriend had the machine at the mo, it does not have an expresscard slot, and I know it does have the double height return key. On May 15, 2011 12:17 AM, "Jim Price" wrote: > On 14/05/11 22:50, Kris Douglas wrote: >> I have one from PCS, they don't use US keyboards. I asked on the phone, they >> are just from US suppliers stock photos. > > May I ask if it has the UK style double-height return key or is it the > same height as the rest of the keys? > > The other thing you might be able to clear up is whether there is an > ExpressCard slot. It looks like there might be one on the left hand > side, but that might be the memory card slot. I'm in danger of buying > one if it has both of the above - the processor performance figures make > it sound faster than my desktop machine. > > -- > JimP > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop
On 14/05/11 22:50, Kris Douglas wrote: I have one from PCS, they don't use US keyboards. I asked on the phone, they are just from US suppliers stock photos. May I ask if it has the UK style double-height return key or is it the same height as the rest of the keys? The other thing you might be able to clear up is whether there is an ExpressCard slot. It looks like there might be one on the left hand side, but that might be the memory card slot. I'm in danger of buying one if it has both of the above - the processor performance figures make it sound faster than my desktop machine. -- JimP -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop
I have one from PCS, they don't use US keyboards. I asked on the phone, they are just from US suppliers stock photos. On May 14, 2011 2:52 PM, "Jim Price" wrote: > On 13/05/11 10:57, Richard Smith wrote: >> I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone >> see any major problems with ubuntu on it. >> http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/ > > The Xenon has the Sandy Bridge laptop processor/chipset. Ubuntu 11.04 > has Sandy Bridge support. I'm not sure about previous releases, but I > would expect getting them to work might involve using a PPA or two. > > Removing the OS does reduce the price by the cost of the OS. That is > rather rare to see - even Dell Ubuntu machines don't tend to manage that. > > I would point out that it has a glossy screen (which I'm not a fan of, > but can live with) and the photos suggest the keyboard has a single > height return key (my personal keyboard pet hate - but many Acer laptop > photos have that whereas the UK spec machines have the proper double > height return key). In fact, the photos are of a machine with a US keyboard. > > The graphics won't win any prizes either, but should be OK. > > Another thing which annoys me about Intel laptops is the need to > research the processor in detail to ensure it supports the features I > need - that just isn't an issue with AMD laptops, as they don't remove > features for marketing purposes. At least with this laptop you have a > choice of processors. I just wish the AMD ones had better battery life. > > It doesn't mention eSATA or USB 3 in the specs, and it isn't clear to me > if it has an ExpressCard slot. If it has none of those, that is going to > make it awkward to connect fast external devices. > > Those are the only criticisms I would have from looking at the web page. > The only things which would to stop me adding this to my list of > possibilities for my next laptop are the US keyboard and the ExpressCard > slot, and both of those are things which the suppliers may be able to > confirm are not problems anyway. Other than that, it looks like a rather > nice laptop for a pretty good price without Windows. I'd be interested > to know more about it if you get one. > > -- > JimP > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop
Thanks for your comments. I think I probably will buy one, and let you know how I get on. I am not a big gamer so hopefully the graphics won't be an issue, and I can't type that fast so likewise with the keyboard. As I haven't used windows for a couple of years, and don't feel I am missing anything, I wanted something without an os, which isn't easy to find. On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 14:51 +0100, Jim Price wrote: > On 13/05/11 10:57, Richard Smith wrote: > > I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone > > see any major problems with ubuntu on it. > > http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/ > > The Xenon has the Sandy Bridge laptop processor/chipset. Ubuntu 11.04 > has Sandy Bridge support. I'm not sure about previous releases, but I > would expect getting them to work might involve using a PPA or two. > > Removing the OS does reduce the price by the cost of the OS. That is > rather rare to see - even Dell Ubuntu machines don't tend to manage that. > > I would point out that it has a glossy screen (which I'm not a fan of, > but can live with) and the photos suggest the keyboard has a single > height return key (my personal keyboard pet hate - but many Acer laptop > photos have that whereas the UK spec machines have the proper double > height return key). In fact, the photos are of a machine with a US keyboard. > > The graphics won't win any prizes either, but should be OK. > > Another thing which annoys me about Intel laptops is the need to > research the processor in detail to ensure it supports the features I > need - that just isn't an issue with AMD laptops, as they don't remove > features for marketing purposes. At least with this laptop you have a > choice of processors. I just wish the AMD ones had better battery life. > > It doesn't mention eSATA or USB 3 in the specs, and it isn't clear to me > if it has an ExpressCard slot. If it has none of those, that is going to > make it awkward to connect fast external devices. > > Those are the only criticisms I would have from looking at the web page. > The only things which would to stop me adding this to my list of > possibilities for my next laptop are the US keyboard and the ExpressCard > slot, and both of those are things which the suppliers may be able to > confirm are not problems anyway. Other than that, it looks like a rather > nice laptop for a pretty good price without Windows. I'd be interested > to know more about it if you get one. > > -- > JimP > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop
On 13/05/11 10:57, Richard Smith wrote: I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone see any major problems with ubuntu on it. http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/ The Xenon has the Sandy Bridge laptop processor/chipset. Ubuntu 11.04 has Sandy Bridge support. I'm not sure about previous releases, but I would expect getting them to work might involve using a PPA or two. Removing the OS does reduce the price by the cost of the OS. That is rather rare to see - even Dell Ubuntu machines don't tend to manage that. I would point out that it has a glossy screen (which I'm not a fan of, but can live with) and the photos suggest the keyboard has a single height return key (my personal keyboard pet hate - but many Acer laptop photos have that whereas the UK spec machines have the proper double height return key). In fact, the photos are of a machine with a US keyboard. The graphics won't win any prizes either, but should be OK. Another thing which annoys me about Intel laptops is the need to research the processor in detail to ensure it supports the features I need - that just isn't an issue with AMD laptops, as they don't remove features for marketing purposes. At least with this laptop you have a choice of processors. I just wish the AMD ones had better battery life. It doesn't mention eSATA or USB 3 in the specs, and it isn't clear to me if it has an ExpressCard slot. If it has none of those, that is going to make it awkward to connect fast external devices. Those are the only criticisms I would have from looking at the web page. The only things which would to stop me adding this to my list of possibilities for my next laptop are the US keyboard and the ExpressCard slot, and both of those are things which the suppliers may be able to confirm are not problems anyway. Other than that, it looks like a rather nice laptop for a pretty good price without Windows. I'd be interested to know more about it if you get one. -- JimP -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop
Nice. Just played "what if?" with the specs on that -- got it to a cool £1,600 easy! :) On 13 May 2011 12:16, Trevor Hyde wrote: > On 13/05/11 10:57, Richard Smith wrote: > >> I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone >> see any major problems with ubuntu on it. >> http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/ >> >> >> >> Doesn't appear to be be over exotic as far as ubuntu's concerned. > > Nice to see how the price falls away when you dispense with the Windows > options! > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop
On 13/05/11 10:57, Richard Smith wrote: I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone see any major problems with ubuntu on it. http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/ Doesn't appear to be be over exotic as far as ubuntu's concerned. Nice to see how the price falls away when you dispense with the Windows options! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] new laptop
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:57 +0100, Richard Smith wrote: > I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone > see any major problems with ubuntu on it. > http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/ > > > A google search for 'pcspecialist laptop linux' pulled up a number of relevant hits. Most interesting is from their own tech forum: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?3748-Ubuntu-compatible-laptop If you are going to buy it would seem best to get a list of the major components they use and see if any of them have difficulties. Wifi always seems to cause great heartache if it doesn't work OOTB (out of the box). You would also want to know if the video supports 3D Unity. Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] new laptop
I am thinking of buying a xenon 14" laptop from pcspecialist, can anyone see any major problems with ubuntu on it. http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/xenon/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
On 29/12/09 09:24, darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote: > Personally I'd just refuse the EULA and get a refund on Windows. Not > enough people do this. If manufacturers saw quite a few more EULAs being > refused they would have to take more notice. > > > Normally I would do so, but now I'm starting to have to support windows users at work, and would quite like to bug squash wubi and so on, so do have a valid case for keeping it. Also, there's been a slight change of plan because of people discontinuing things! Now getting a Thinkpad SL510! -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
Personally I'd just refuse the EULA and get a refund on Windows. Not enough people do this. If manufacturers saw quite a few more EULAs being refused they would have to take more notice. -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Daubney Sent: 26 December 2009 21:42 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time Just a quick note to say thanks to all for advice and opinions. I've ended up getting a Lenovo Thinkpad SL500 after reviewing everyones opinions. I'm unsure what to do with the windows licence it comes with, but may keep it to enable me to test things like Wubi properly. Thanks again to all, -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
Just a quick note to say thanks to all for advice and opinions. I've ended up getting a Lenovo Thinkpad SL500 after reviewing everyones opinions. I'm unsure what to do with the windows licence it comes with, but may keep it to enable me to test things like Wubi properly. Thanks again to all, -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
Hi, On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:14:56PM +, Alan Pope wrote: > May last few laptops have included a Dell XPS (never again after they > refused to replace the video card that broke multiple times), Asus EEE (not > again until they sell them again with Linux), Toshiba (never again - > apalling build quality, requirement for Windows to BIOS update). Work > laptops have included Thinkpad, HP and Fujitsu/Siemens. > > Of all of those I am now certain my next full size laptop will be a > thinkpad. End of story. Interesting. I may be in the market for a new general purpose laptop in early 2010. I currently use a Thinkpad R61 and I'm reasonably happy with it although the Intel wireless is hopeless under the currently-installed Jaunty (haven't tried upgrading yet, I work around it with a PC wifi card). It's a 15.4" screen with a resolution of 1680x1050 and that's really spoilt me. While I find 15.4" a little hefty when out and about, I really like the high resolution. I was looking around the Lenovo site and it seems like they don't offer as high resolutions anymore on the 14" models. I might have been willing to go down to 1440x1050 or 1440x900 but it doesn't seem available. I was interested in what other brands were highly valued but your post has made me more likely to stick with Thinkpads, if I could find a good balance of size vs. resolution.. Cheers, Andy -- http://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting "Greatness sits upon my shoulders as the dog urinates upon the pavement - with naturalness and ease and some offence to passers-by." -- The League Against Tedium signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
I haven't had any direct experience but I've had my eye on PC Specialist - www.pcspecialist.co.uk - for a while. Pretty decent prices and you're able to configure the laptop/PC to pretty much whatever you want including the option of "No Operating System" [certainly much more of a configuration on offer than anything Novatech has]. It would be interesting if anyone else has experience with them. 2009/12/23 Matthew Daubney > Hello, > > It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit > cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as well). > So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd like a > core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4 GB of RAM, > don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM though, and a > seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be nice. > > The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use, bit of > web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it doesn't > need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick. > > I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3 > possibilities: > > 1. Novatech X16 HD Pro - > http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html > 2. Acer Aspire 5738 - > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top > 3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506 > > Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even > seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me. If > anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any > others you think fit the bill. > > Any opinions welcome :) > > -Matt Daubney > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
Rowan Berkeley wrote: [...] > I bought a Lenovo N500 with Ubuntu from the Linux Emporium in July for > £457.70 all incl., and I haven't had a single problem with it. Check > their web page for the exact specs on all the machines they offer: > http://linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/ I helped three friends buy laptops from Linux emporium and they were delighted, and I was to. I think the machines were two Lenovo and one asus or acer(?) because of a then shortage of lenovo supply. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 12:00 +, Matthew Daubney wrote: > Hello, > It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit > cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as > well). So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd > like a core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4 > GB of RAM, don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM > though, and a seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be > nice. The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use, > bit of web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it > doesn't need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick. I've a > budget of about ?500, and my research so far has hilighted 3 > possibilities: > 1. Novatech X16 HD Pro - > http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html > 2. Acer Aspire 5738 - > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top > 3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506 > Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even > seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me. > If anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any > others you think fit the bill. Any opinions welcome :) -Matt Daubney I bought a Lenovo N500 with Ubuntu from the Linux Emporium in July for £457.70 all incl., and I haven't had a single problem with it. Check their web page for the exact specs on all the machines they offer: http://linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/ Rowan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:57:52AM +, Matthew Daubney wrote: > I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3 > possibilities: > Of the three you've listed I'd only consider Samsung, based on 2nd hand opinions from trusted friends and podcasters. May last few laptops have included a Dell XPS (never again after they refused to replace the video card that broke multiple times), Asus EEE (not again until they sell them again with Linux), Toshiba (never again - apalling build quality, requirement for Windows to BIOS update). Work laptops have included Thinkpad, HP and Fujitsu/Siemens. Of all of those I am now certain my next full size laptop will be a thinkpad. End of story. If price is an issue then you could get a refurb/2nd user one here:- http://www.sterlingxs.co.uk/scpages/ibmtoshibalaptops.html Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:05:42 -, Rob Beard wrote: > On 23/12/2009 10:57, Matthew Daubney wrote: >> Hello, >> >> It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit >> cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as well). >> So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd like a >> core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4 GB of RAM, >> don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM though, and a >> seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be nice. >> >> The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use, bit of >> web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it doesn't >> need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick. >> >> I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3 >> possibilities: >> >> 1. Novatech X16 HD Pro - >> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html >> 2. Acer Aspire 5738 - >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top >> 3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506 >> >> Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even >> seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me. If >> anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any >> others you think fit the bill. >> >> Any opinions welcome :) >> >> -Matt Daubney >> > > One of my old customers had some Novatech laptops, they're basically > generic rebranded laptops, I believe manufactured by the likes of Mitac. > > Wasn't very impressed myself, the build quality was poor and they all > either failed or fell to pieces within a couple of years. > The build quality is a bit doubtful, you can see/feel where they have tried to save money. I have dealt with a company that had a few and, as Rob said, they don’t survive long even when left on a desk. > -- Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
Personally I would only go for Lenovo or Dell for Linux laptops. No-one else seems bothered about broken BIOS's and ACPI implementations. Why not Intel graphics? Whatever you do don't go ATi/AMD graphics. I'm stuck with an ATi HD 3400 R600 in this Toshiba laptop. The ACPI is broken and the VGA doesn't report correctly meaning the binary fglrx driver won't work with it. I'm having to run a Lucid kernel on Karmic with xorg-edgers git builds to get kwin compositing. Because of the buggy ACPI it won't S3 suspend, battery charging doesn't report correctly so I have no power management etc. All because Toshiba had to break the BIOS to get it to pass Microsoft HCT tests so they could put the "designed for Windows" stickers on the case and get a 50% reduction in OEM licences... -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Daubney Sent: 23 December 2009 10:58 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time Hello, It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as well). So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd like a core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4 GB of RAM, don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM though, and a seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be nice. The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use, bit of web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it doesn't need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick. I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3 possibilities: 1. Novatech X16 HD Pro - http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html 2. Acer Aspire 5738 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top 3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506 Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me. If anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any others you think fit the bill. Any opinions welcome :) -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
On 23/12/09 11:05, Rob Beard wrote: > > One of my old customers had some Novatech laptops, they're basically > generic rebranded laptops, I believe manufactured by the likes of Mitac. > > Wasn't very impressed myself, the build quality was poor and they all > either failed or fell to pieces within a couple of years. > > I've got an Acer Aspire 2920 and I can't fault it myself, plus a 3 year > extended warranty is something like £60 and it covers accidental damage. > > I've also had a play with a Samsung, not the R520, I think it was an > R500 or something along those lines. It's a nice little machine and > does the job well (a friend of mine has one, seems solidly built). > > Rob > > > > Really? Thats a bit of a shame, they where coming out on top in terms of price for what they where offering. I suppose I could go into their Reading store and have a look. Have you ever had to deal with Acer or Samsung? Are they very easy to deal with or worse than average? Thanks, -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
On 23/12/2009 10:57, Matthew Daubney wrote: > Hello, > > It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit > cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as well). > So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd like a > core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4 GB of RAM, > don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM though, and a > seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be nice. > > The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use, bit of > web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it doesn't > need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick. > > I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3 > possibilities: > > 1. Novatech X16 HD Pro - > http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html > 2. Acer Aspire 5738 - > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top > 3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506 > > Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even > seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me. If > anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any > others you think fit the bill. > > Any opinions welcome :) > > -Matt Daubney > One of my old customers had some Novatech laptops, they're basically generic rebranded laptops, I believe manufactured by the likes of Mitac. Wasn't very impressed myself, the build quality was poor and they all either failed or fell to pieces within a couple of years. I've got an Acer Aspire 2920 and I can't fault it myself, plus a 3 year extended warranty is something like £60 and it covers accidental damage. I've also had a play with a Samsung, not the R520, I think it was an R500 or something along those lines. It's a nice little machine and does the job well (a friend of mine has one, seems solidly built). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] New Laptop Time
Hello, It's that time of year again when everything will briefly become a bit cheaper (and I'm trying to avoid VAT returning to normal again as well). So am looking around for a new laptop. As far as specs go, I'd like a core 2 duo branded chip, something like a T6600 would do. 2-4 GB of RAM, don't care about HD size, would be nice to be 7200RPM though, and a seperate graphic card (not an intel one) would also be nice. The main purpose of this machine is for my general purpose use, bit of web browsing, bit of dev, bit of office work and so on. So it doesn't need to be overpowered, but needs to have some kick. I've a budget of about £500, and my research so far has hilighted 3 possibilities: 1. Novatech X16 HD Pro - http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/range/x16hd.html 2. Acer Aspire 5738 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-DVD-RW-Premium/dp/B002IVTTJC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top 3. Samsung R520 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176506 Does anyone have any experience of Novatech laptops? I've never even seen one before, so the build quality is an unknown quantity for me. If anyone has any opinions on the others I'd be interested too, or any others you think fit the bill. Any opinions welcome :) -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/