Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal (Sight Village)
Alan Some very valid points. However, until the stock market crash in the late 90's Guide Dogs was the wealthiest organisation in the UK for the blind, and in the top 5 in the world. Unfortunately, they're now ranked somewhat lower, but gradually picking up again. This may well turn you off from giving to GDBA, but just remember that from birth to death GDBA looks after all their dogs financially and medically, and an average cost to maintain a dog through it's life including training is £30k+! E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of alan c Sent: 05 October 2007 10:28 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal (Sight Village) Ian Pascoe wrote: > Hi y'all > > Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I > thought I'd run it by the list and see what your feed back was. > > Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham > runs an exhibition called Sight Village, which is the "leading" > technology showcase for the bisually impaired and associated > support groups throughout Europe - these groups being both > Government bodies and local / national / international charities. > What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the > three days - starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu > together with it's Assistive Technologies in use. Great idea! A background scenario might be of interest: a) RNIB (as a major institution in the scene) is apparently very non Open Source. I have previously contacted them as a potential volunteer helper - for open source (Free) and Linux. I do not think they even knew what I was talking about, even the Computer related person. b) RNIB is said to be a very rich organisation. Saving money may be something they as an institution see in their own special way. c) My contact with RNIB suggested they naturally use a level of bureaucracy you might expect from a vary large well off organisation, who also use many volunteers too. The formality seemed much higher than with Age Concern for example. Associated with the formality and bureaucracy may be a certain inflexibility and resistance to change. d) When on the Microsoft Campus in Berkshire (for Age Concern events, a couple of occasions) I became aware of the AbilityNet organisation http://www.abilitynet.org.uk/ who are -located- in one of the main Microsoft buildings, apparently heavily funded by the company. [extract quote] 'AbilityNet’s links with Microsoft, IBM, Hewlett Packard, BT and other major IT companies put us in a very strong position to make sure the voices of disabled people are heard. We aim to lead the way in providing effective interventions using the latest technology.' Comment: One can easily understand that there is a strong tradition for and also a strong expectation of proprietary software at all levels - organisations and end users. e) Blind people I have come across *are* very keen to save money! And very interested in alternatives. They would obviously need a bit more support that other new Ubuntu users. The Sight Village event would be a major marketing showpiece for us. A very alien territory, with a tradition probably of users being even more reliant that usual upon proprietary companies. Can I remind ourselves that press and media coverage will be important to stimulate and foster? In principle I would like to and be able to attend and or contribute, although the far date will need confirmation closer to the event. (Particularly finding a suitable car park for our small motorhome, and us, to reside unobtrusively for the duration). -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi Daniel Most other exhibitions I'd say that this is a good way to make funds - however, as Alan C rightly says, your average VIP (visually impaired person) has limited funds at the best of times. E£ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel Lamb Sent: 04 October 2007 22:32 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal Could you not sell off ubuntu merchandise? Make t-shirts, cds with support by us(we would need a system for it) but if we sold cds for say £50 and gave 3 months support(enough time for them to setup their machine, install printers etc) then that money could be reinvested into advertising and events like this! Regards, daniel Original message From: Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 4 Oct 2007 1:17pm -07:00 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal > I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the > offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! Cool :-D This sounds like a very admirable project. Has anyone got any ideas about how this could be funded? How does the loco usually get cash for exhibiting etc? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
On Friday 05 October 2007 10:40:28 alan c wrote: > Peter Lewis wrote: > > On Friday 05 October 2007 08:37:21 Matthew Holder wrote: > >> Excellent idea for a project. As I live in Birmingham I would > >> probably me able to help out. > > > > Likewise, I'm in Birmingham and would be more than happy to come > > along and help out. > > > > Pete. > > Do either of you have a front drive or space at your house for a > temporary motorhome parking please? Sorry, just street parking where I am... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
On Friday 05 October 2007 08:37:21 Matthew Holder wrote: > Excellent idea for a project. As I live in Birmingham I would probably > me able to help out. Likewise, I'm in Birmingham and would be more than happy to come along and help out. Pete. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Peter Lewis wrote: > On Friday 05 October 2007 08:37:21 Matthew Holder wrote: >> Excellent idea for a project. As I live in Birmingham I would >> probably me able to help out. > > Likewise, I'm in Birmingham and would be more than happy to come > along and help out. > > Pete. > Do either of you have a front drive or space at your house for a temporary motorhome parking please? -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Chris Rowson wrote: >> I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the >> offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! > > Cool :-D This sounds like a very admirable project. Has anyone got any > ideas about how this could be funded? How does the loco usually get > cash for exhibiting etc? I would travel and attend independently. Hopefully the exhibition will be inexpensive or free to attend? Funding for a display stand is interesting - I note that this is a strong area for proprietary products! Free handouts are unlikely, unless - there may be some voluntary organisations displaying, we could maybe get their advice? We are in principle competing with powerful companies who have shown they can get their way (mostly). These can hardly be expected to welcome us or assist us. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal (Sight Village)
Ian Pascoe wrote: > Hi y'all > > Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I > thought I'd run it by the list and see what your feed back was. > > Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham > runs an exhibition called Sight Village, which is the "leading" > technology showcase for the bisually impaired and associated > support groups throughout Europe - these groups being both > Government bodies and local / national / international charities. > What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the > three days - starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu > together with it's Assistive Technologies in use. Great idea! A background scenario might be of interest: a) RNIB (as a major institution in the scene) is apparently very non Open Source. I have previously contacted them as a potential volunteer helper - for open source (Free) and Linux. I do not think they even knew what I was talking about, even the Computer related person. b) RNIB is said to be a very rich organisation. Saving money may be something they as an institution see in their own special way. c) My contact with RNIB suggested they naturally use a level of bureaucracy you might expect from a vary large well off organisation, who also use many volunteers too. The formality seemed much higher than with Age Concern for example. Associated with the formality and bureaucracy may be a certain inflexibility and resistance to change. d) When on the Microsoft Campus in Berkshire (for Age Concern events, a couple of occasions) I became aware of the AbilityNet organisation http://www.abilitynet.org.uk/ who are -located- in one of the main Microsoft buildings, apparently heavily funded by the company. [extract quote] 'AbilityNet’s links with Microsoft, IBM, Hewlett Packard, BT and other major IT companies put us in a very strong position to make sure the voices of disabled people are heard. We aim to lead the way in providing effective interventions using the latest technology.' Comment: One can easily understand that there is a strong tradition for and also a strong expectation of proprietary software at all levels - organisations and end users. e) Blind people I have come across *are* very keen to save money! And very interested in alternatives. They would obviously need a bit more support that other new Ubuntu users. The Sight Village event would be a major marketing showpiece for us. A very alien territory, with a tradition probably of users being even more reliant that usual upon proprietary companies. Can I remind ourselves that press and media coverage will be important to stimulate and foster? In principle I would like to and be able to attend and or contribute, although the far date will need confirmation closer to the event. (Particularly finding a suitable car park for our small motorhome, and us, to reside unobtrusively for the duration). -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Chris Rowson wrote: >> What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the >> three days - starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating >> Ubuntu together with it's Assistive Technologies in use. >> > > Hey there folks, > > Are the assistive technologies in Ubuntu any good? > > I seem to remember a post a few months ago where there was a > discussion regarding the issues a partially sighted user was having > with Ubuntu. I'll try and dig it up. I turned accessibility on (magnifier and orca) for a short demo recently (7.04) and was most impressed. I have normal sight, and while helping age concern (a few years ago), I attended a half day using the windows based (and very expensive) HAL software. HAL was quite good, and I thought the current offering from orca was easily comparable. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Excellent idea for a project. As I live in Birmingham I would probably me able to help out. matt On 04/10/2007, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Ian, > > On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:34 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > > I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the > > offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! > > > > Alan can you contact me off list to talk through the web stuff please? > > > > Incoming! :) > > Cheers, > Al. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > > -- Matthew Holder University of Birmingham - Graduate Technologist (Physics and Astronomy) Personal Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal Website - www.mattmole.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:34 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the > offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! > > Alan can you contact me off list to talk through the web stuff please? > Incoming! :) Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi Chris, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 21:17 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: > > I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the > > offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! > > Cool :-D This sounds like a very admirable project. Has anyone got any > ideas about how this could be funded? How does the loco usually get > cash for exhibiting etc? > Now there's a can of worms. So far Ubuntu-UK as a group hasn't had to fund anything. Individuals have paid for things in the past, but we as a group have not yet had to "handle" money. Other LoCos (notably France and Germany) have sought donations and have used that money to fund their activities - running stands at shows, making t-shirts, leaflets and CDs. They have done this very successfully it would seem, and are keen to get other LoCos doing similar things, or joining them with what they do. This is currently under heavy discussion on the LoCo mailing list, and will likely be discussed further at various levels within Ubuntu infrastructure. Pnce we know what the costs involved are we can figure out what to do. Getting my crystal ball out, I have a hunch that some people will donate time, laptops, lifts, funds and yes, even coffee and biscuits to get something like this going, so I'd say for now we don't necessarily need to worry too much about how "we" (as in the LoCo team) fund it. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Could you not sell off ubuntu merchandise? Make t-shirts, cds with support by us(we would need a system for it) but if we sold cds for say £50 and gave 3 months support(enough time for them to setup their machine, install printers etc) then that money could be reinvested into advertising and events like this! Regards, daniel Original message From: Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 4 Oct 2007 1:17pm -07:00 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal > I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the > offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! Cool :-D This sounds like a very admirable project. Has anyone got any ideas about how this could be funded? How does the loco usually get cash for exhibiting etc? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Whilst my linux experience is limited to setup, configuration and use i would like to be of use in any other way. I have 2 spare 1.2ghz laptops which you would be more than welcome to use if needed. regards Rhys -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Iv done sound engineering afew years since i did it properly but still done it and got access to a studio, Regards, daniel Original message From: Ian Pascoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 4 Oct 2007 7:34pm +00:00 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal Guys I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! Alan can you contact me off list to talk through the web stuff please? Chris R - I know the post you refer to and I referred him onto the Orca mailling list which he now participates on. I am aware of the Ubuntu Accessability mailling list but haven't done anything there as yet as they're up to their knees in sorting out the Gibbon at the moment. Chris D - yep accessability is firing on all cylinders at the moment including the speech recognition which was the main downfall of Linux until this Summer's Google Summer of Code. For interested parties, it's only available through Gnome for the short to medium term. DaveW - haven't got the costs yet, but they should be out in the next month or so. I know there's a couple of sound engineering types on the list, would you be able to offer any help on the audio recording side if things started to rock and roll? E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 04 October 2007 20:03 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the three days - > starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu together with it's > Assistive Technologies in use. > Sounds great to me, count me in. > * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I don't think that's a problem. I suspect that you could get one or more in fact. > * a supply of the then current distributions That would be Hardy Heron - 8.04 which would be an LTS release. By then there would be media available. > * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in > printed, braille and audio formats Ooo, like that idea. We also have a screencast that has subtitles :) > * increase my knowledge of Ubuntu from the surface scratchings I have to a > damn good gouge. > I'm sure we can help with that too! Winner. > Now, there's plenty of time until July, and exhibitors registration doesn't > need to be completed until 31/01/08, but I'll be honest and say it seems > rather daunting. > I'd say it's pretty damned easy for us to achieve if we work together actually. > I've got ideas how to deal with most of the above points, but wondered if > this'd be a good project for the Loco team? Definitely. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
> I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the > offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! Cool :-D This sounds like a very admirable project. Has anyone got any ideas about how this could be funded? How does the loco usually get cash for exhibiting etc? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
This is not an actual proposal but, while those unfortunate people with handicaps are being considered, what about all those lovely videos being promoted to the hard of hearing? Just a thought. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Guys I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! Alan can you contact me off list to talk through the web stuff please? Chris R - I know the post you refer to and I referred him onto the Orca mailling list which he now participates on. I am aware of the Ubuntu Accessability mailling list but haven't done anything there as yet as they're up to their knees in sorting out the Gibbon at the moment. Chris D - yep accessability is firing on all cylinders at the moment including the speech recognition which was the main downfall of Linux until this Summer's Google Summer of Code. For interested parties, it's only available through Gnome for the short to medium term. DaveW - haven't got the costs yet, but they should be out in the next month or so. I know there's a couple of sound engineering types on the list, would you be able to offer any help on the audio recording side if things started to rock and roll? E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 04 October 2007 20:03 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the three days - > starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu together with it's > Assistive Technologies in use. > Sounds great to me, count me in. > * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I don't think that's a problem. I suspect that you could get one or more in fact. > * a supply of the then current distributions That would be Hardy Heron - 8.04 which would be an LTS release. By then there would be media available. > * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in > printed, braille and audio formats Ooo, like that idea. We also have a screencast that has subtitles :) > * increase my knowledge of Ubuntu from the surface scratchings I have to a > damn good gouge. > I'm sure we can help with that too! Winner. > Now, there's plenty of time until July, and exhibitors registration doesn't > need to be completed until 31/01/08, but I'll be honest and say it seems > rather daunting. > I'd say it's pretty damned easy for us to achieve if we work together actually. > I've got ideas how to deal with most of the above points, but wondered if > this'd be a good project for the Loco team? Definitely. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the three days - > starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu together with it's > Assistive Technologies in use. > Sounds great to me, count me in. > * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I don't think that's a problem. I suspect that you could get one or more in fact. > * a supply of the then current distributions That would be Hardy Heron - 8.04 which would be an LTS release. By then there would be media available. > * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in > printed, braille and audio formats Ooo, like that idea. We also have a screencast that has subtitles :) > * increase my knowledge of Ubuntu from the surface scratchings I have to a > damn good gouge. > I'm sure we can help with that too! Winner. > Now, there's plenty of time until July, and exhibitors registration doesn't > need to be completed until 31/01/08, but I'll be honest and say it seems > rather daunting. > I'd say it's pretty damned easy for us to achieve if we work together actually. > I've got ideas how to deal with most of the above points, but wondered if > this'd be a good project for the Loco team? Definitely. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
> What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the three days - > starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu together with it's > Assistive Technologies in use. > Hey there folks, Are the assistive technologies in Ubuntu any good? I seem to remember a post a few months ago where there was a discussion regarding the issues a partially sighted user was having with Ubuntu. I'll try and dig it up. Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi, Ian Pascoe wrote: > Hi y'all > > Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I thought I'd > run it by the list and see what your feed back was. > > Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham runs an > exhibition called Sight Village, which is the "leading" technology showcase > for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout Europe - > these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / > international charities. > > What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the three days - > starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu together with it's > Assistive Technologies in use. > That is a *really* good idea. Have you contacted the Ubuntu-Accessibility team? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team HTH John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
If there is anything I can do as well, I happy for any number of my machines to be used but I am in Perth. Regards, Daniel _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Douglas Sent: 04 October 2007 18:53 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal This would be a great idea. It would really boost the profile of Ubuntu and it's accessibility functionality. I think this would be well worth the work. On 04/10/2007, Dave Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > Hi y'all > > Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I thought I'd > run it by the list and see what your feed back was. > > Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham runs an > exhibition called Sight Village, which is the "leading" technology showcase > for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout Europe - > these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / > international charities. > This sounds like a wonderful idea, this is exactly the kind of advocacy projects we should be doing. I would suggest we first look at exactly what needs to be produced, then estimate actual costs. > Putting cost aside for the stand for the moment, I need to: > > * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I'm sure a few machines shouldn't be too difficult to obtain for a few days. > * a supply of the then current distributions > * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in > printed, braille and audio formats There is _some_ documentation already written [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc]. I'm sure we could work with ubuntu-accessibility to produce the necessary documentation, as i'm sure that team knows requirements better than most. I wouldn't imagine producing braille format and auto dictation (via Audio-CD) would be too difficult. It's certainly something I can see being mutually beneficial to the ubuntu-accessibility team aswell. Do you happen to know how much it costs to register, to have a stand, at this event? Once we have a compiled list of costs, we can look into potential fund-raising to cover the costs associated. Kind Regards, Dave Walker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hey Ian, > * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I'm happy to do that > * a supply of the then current distributions Happy to do that too > * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in > printed, braille and audio formats I'm happy to help make this leaflet > * find a copious supply of hot beverages Kettle + teabags, I have a teapot :-) Basically, count me in. Regards, -- Matthew G Larsen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
On 04/10/2007, Kris Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This would be a great idea. It would really boost the profile of Ubuntu > and it's accessibility functionality. > > I think this would be well worth the work. > > On 04/10/2007, Dave Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Ian, > > > > On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > > > Hi y'all > > > > > > Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I > > thought I'd > > > run it by the list and see what your feed back was. > > > > > > Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham > > runs an > > > exhibition called Sight Village, which is the "leading" technology > > showcase > > > for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout > > Europe - > > > these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / > > > international charities. > > > > > > > > > This sounds like a wonderful idea, this is exactly the kind of advocacy > > projects we should be doing. > > > > I would suggest we first look at exactly what needs to be produced, then > > estimate actual costs. > > > > > Putting cost aside for the stand for the moment, I need to: > > > > > > * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration > > > > I'm sure a few machines shouldn't be too difficult to obtain for a few > > days. > > > > > * a supply of the then current distributions > > > * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies > > activated, in > > > printed, braille and audio formats > > > > > > There is _some_ documentation already written > > [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc]. I'm sure we could work > > with ubuntu-accessibility to produce the necessary documentation, as i'm > > sure that team knows requirements better than most. > > > > I wouldn't imagine producing braille format and auto dictation (via > > Audio-CD) would be too difficult. It's certainly something I can see > > being mutually beneficial to the ubuntu-accessibility team aswell. > > > > Do you happen to know how much it costs to register, to have a stand, at > > this event? > > > > Once we have a compiled list of costs, we can look into potential > > fund-raising to cover the costs associated. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Dave Walker > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > > > > > > > > -- > Kris Douglas > Softdel Limited Hosting Services > > Web: www.softdel.net > Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry everyone, that was a top-post for Britain :) -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
This would be a great idea. It would really boost the profile of Ubuntu and it's accessibility functionality. I think this would be well worth the work. On 04/10/2007, Dave Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > > Hi y'all > > > > Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I thought > I'd > > run it by the list and see what your feed back was. > > > > Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham runs > an > > exhibition called Sight Village, which is the "leading" technology > showcase > > for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout > Europe - > > these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / > > international charities. > > > > > This sounds like a wonderful idea, this is exactly the kind of advocacy > projects we should be doing. > > I would suggest we first look at exactly what needs to be produced, then > estimate actual costs. > > > Putting cost aside for the stand for the moment, I need to: > > > > * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration > > I'm sure a few machines shouldn't be too difficult to obtain for a few > days. > > > * a supply of the then current distributions > > * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, > in > > printed, braille and audio formats > > > There is _some_ documentation already written > [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc]. I'm sure we could work > with ubuntu-accessibility to produce the necessary documentation, as i'm > sure that team knows requirements better than most. > > I wouldn't imagine producing braille format and auto dictation (via > Audio-CD) would be too difficult. It's certainly something I can see > being mutually beneficial to the ubuntu-accessibility team aswell. > > Do you happen to know how much it costs to register, to have a stand, at > this event? > > Once we have a compiled list of costs, we can look into potential > fund-raising to cover the costs associated. > > Kind Regards, > Dave Walker > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > > -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > Hi y'all > > Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I thought I'd > run it by the list and see what your feed back was. > > Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham runs an > exhibition called Sight Village, which is the "leading" technology showcase > for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout Europe - > these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / > international charities. > This sounds like a wonderful idea, this is exactly the kind of advocacy projects we should be doing. I would suggest we first look at exactly what needs to be produced, then estimate actual costs. > Putting cost aside for the stand for the moment, I need to: > > * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I'm sure a few machines shouldn't be too difficult to obtain for a few days. > * a supply of the then current distributions > * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in > printed, braille and audio formats There is _some_ documentation already written [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc]. I'm sure we could work with ubuntu-accessibility to produce the necessary documentation, as i'm sure that team knows requirements better than most. I wouldn't imagine producing braille format and auto dictation (via Audio-CD) would be too difficult. It's certainly something I can see being mutually beneficial to the ubuntu-accessibility team aswell. Do you happen to know how much it costs to register, to have a stand, at this event? Once we have a compiled list of costs, we can look into potential fund-raising to cover the costs associated. Kind Regards, Dave Walker signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi y'all Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I thought I'd run it by the list and see what your feed back was. Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham runs an exhibition called Sight Village, which is the "leading" technology showcase for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout Europe - these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / international charities. What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the three days - starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu together with it's Assistive Technologies in use. However, having now sat down and actually worked out what's going to be involved, it has got rather scary. Putting cost aside for the stand for the moment, I need to: * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration * a supply of the then current distributions * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in printed, braille and audio formats * find a copious supply of hot beverages * increase my knowledge of Ubuntu from the surface scratchings I have to a damn good gouge. Now, there's plenty of time until July, and exhibitors registration doesn't need to be completed until 31/01/08, but I'll be honest and say it seems rather daunting. I've got ideas how to deal with most of the above points, but wondered if this'd be a good project for the Loco team? Thoughts and comments gratefully received. E -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
