Re: [ubuntu-uk] thunderbird fonts

2012-06-06 Thread Norman Silverstone

On 06/06/12 08:33, Alan Bell wrote:

On 06/06/12 07:08, Norman Silverstone wrote:


That's great with messages received, is it supposed to work with a
message being written?

Norman



works with both for me

Alan.


Thank you I was too impatient.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] thunderbird fonts

2012-06-06 Thread Alan Bell

On 06/06/12 07:08, Norman Silverstone wrote:


That's great with messages received, is it supposed to work with a 
message being written?


Norman



works with both for me

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] thunderbird fonts

2012-06-05 Thread Norman Silverstone

On 05/06/12 21:32, Alan Bell wrote:

On 05/06/12 20:17, Norman Silverstone wrote:




hold ctrl, twiddle with your mouse wheel.

Alan.

That's great with messages received, is it supposed to work with a 
message being written?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] thunderbird fonts

2012-06-05 Thread Alan Bell

On 05/06/12 20:17, Norman Silverstone wrote:




hold ctrl, twiddle with your mouse wheel.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] thunderbird fonts

2012-06-05 Thread Norman Silverstone

On 05/06/12 18:57, Jim Price wrote:

On 05/06/12 14:48, Norman Silverstone wrote:

I have asked this question on another users group but so far, I have not
had an answer which works. Using Thunderbird 12.0.1 and Xubuntu 12.04
32-bit plain text the font in the message window is very small and I
want to make it larger. I have tried making changes using Edit ->
Preferences -> Display -> Formatting -> Advanced but nothing changes. I
assume I am missing something but I don't know what. I have tried Google
but I am more confused than ever. Could someone, please, be kind enough
to point me to where I might find the answer to the problem. Thanks


In the dialog you refer to, the first setting is "Fonts for:". Each
message has a label on it, which you don't normally see, which specifies
the way in which the contents are to be interpreted. The likelihood is
that almost all of the messages you receive will be encoded by the
sender using "Western", or possibly "Central European". You can have
different sized fonts for different encodings, so the chances are that
when you see a message which you can't change the font size, it means
that message is encoded with a setting other than the one you are trying
to change the size of. You didn't mention whether that is something
which you have already tried, but have a look at the headers using
"View>Headers>All" and look for the "Content type" setting. That should
tell you how the sender has encoded the message, and give a clue as to
what you need to do to make sure that you know what encoding of font to
change in the advanced settings.

Try settings "Fonts for" to "Western" and see if that makes any difference.

I see from your settings that you have outging mail set to "US ASCII". I
have mine set to "Unicode (UTF-8)", which is the standard encoding in
Ubuntu, and backwards compatible with "US ASCII". If you send email to
Windows users which contains foreign language characters, they may not
see them correctly if their email client doesn't read the headers and
display UTF-8 correctly, but if you don't write emails in a foreign
language, that won't affect you or them using UTF-8. You can also set
incoming mail to Unicode (UTF-8), and if you do see character errors in
an incoming email, you can correct that by selecting "View>character
encoding>western" (or whatever it says in their headers they have
encoded it with).

Try unchecking "Allow messages to use other fonts".

Check "use fixed width fonts for plain text messages", and after you
have done that, the setting which affects font size in messages should
be the one labelled "Monospace".

Worst case is you should be able to change the font size (if it needs to
be bigger) with the "Minimum font size" setting.

That's about all I can think of for now. I am a little surprised that
Ubuntu didn't set up UTF-8 in Thunderbird (which was the case last time
I did a fresh install, which was a while ago as the profile I'm using
now originated in Thunderbird 2).

Thank you very much for this very clear explanation, things are now 
dropping into place. I found that the only really effective way to alter 
the font size was by altering the "Minimum font size" setting. I seem to 
remember reading in one of the leads from Google that there is an issue 
with UTF-8 in the current version of Thunderbird. Thanks again.


Norman

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] thunderbird fonts

2012-06-05 Thread Jim Price

On 05/06/12 14:48, Norman Silverstone wrote:

I have asked this question on another users group but so far, I have not
had an answer which works. Using Thunderbird 12.0.1 and Xubuntu 12.04
32-bit plain text the font in the message window is very small and I
want to make it larger. I have tried making changes using Edit ->
Preferences -> Display -> Formatting -> Advanced but nothing changes. I
assume I am missing something but I don't know what. I have tried Google
but I am more confused than ever. Could someone, please, be kind enough
to point me to where I might find the answer to the problem. Thanks


In the dialog you refer to, the first setting is "Fonts for:". Each 
message has a label on it, which you don't normally see, which specifies 
the way in which the contents are to be interpreted. The likelihood is 
that almost all of the messages you receive will be encoded by the 
sender using "Western", or possibly "Central European". You can have 
different sized fonts for different encodings, so the chances are that 
when you see a message which you can't change the font size, it means 
that message is encoded with a setting other than the one you are trying 
to change the size of. You didn't mention whether that is something 
which you have already tried, but have a look at the headers using 
"View>Headers>All" and look for the "Content type" setting. That should 
tell you how the sender has encoded the message, and give a clue as to 
what you need to do to make sure that you know what encoding of font to 
change in the advanced settings.


Try settings "Fonts for" to "Western" and see if that makes any difference.

I see from your settings that you have outging mail set to "US ASCII". I 
have mine set to "Unicode (UTF-8)", which is the standard encoding in 
Ubuntu, and backwards compatible with "US ASCII". If you send email to 
Windows users which contains foreign language characters, they may not 
see them correctly if their email client doesn't read the headers and 
display UTF-8 correctly, but if you don't write emails in a foreign 
language, that won't affect you or them using UTF-8. You can also set 
incoming mail to Unicode (UTF-8), and if you do see character errors in 
an incoming email, you can correct that by selecting "View>character 
encoding>western" (or whatever it says in their headers they have 
encoded it with).


Try unchecking "Allow messages to use other fonts".

Check "use fixed width fonts for plain text messages", and after you 
have done that, the setting which affects font size in messages should 
be the one labelled "Monospace".


Worst case is you should be able to change the font size (if it needs to 
be bigger) with the "Minimum font size" setting.


That's about all I can think of for now. I am a little surprised that 
Ubuntu didn't set up UTF-8 in Thunderbird (which was the case last time 
I did a fresh install, which was a while ago as the profile I'm using 
now originated in Thunderbird 2).


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[ubuntu-uk] thunderbird fonts

2012-06-05 Thread Norman Silverstone
I have asked this question on another users group but so far, I have not 
had an answer which works. Using Thunderbird 12.0.1 and Xubuntu 12.04 
32-bit plain text the font in the message window is very small and I 
want to make it larger. I have tried making changes using Edit -> 
Preferences -> Display -> Formatting -> Advanced but nothing changes. I 
assume I am missing something but I don't know what. I have tried Google 
but I am more confused than ever. Could someone, please, be kind enough 
to point me to where I might find the answer to the problem. Thanks


Norman

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