Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-28 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/28/04 12:13 PM, "Robert Brenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I'm getting ready to have some time available to enhance RevZilla, and want
>> to make sure that I am adding things in the order that people will most want
>> them. The current version is 1.1.2, and I have a 1.1.3 that hasn't been
>> released yet, but has the following additions:
>> 
>> - Added support for Firefox to the OS X browser list
>> - Added info about trying to use AOL with RevZilla
>> - A few cosmetic adjustments
>> 
>> So for those of you who use RevZilla, can you please let me know what would
>> be your top 2 features you'd like to see added? Based on feedback, that will
>> allow me to determine which is most needed by the Rev community.
>> 
>> Thanks,
> 
> My top feature would be to make it compatible with MetaCard.

Already on my list... :-)

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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-28 Thread Robert Brenstein
I'm getting ready to have some time available to enhance RevZilla, and want
to make sure that I am adding things in the order that people will most want
them. The current version is 1.1.2, and I have a 1.1.3 that hasn't been
released yet, but has the following additions:
- Added support for Firefox to the OS X browser list
- Added info about trying to use AOL with RevZilla
- A few cosmetic adjustments
So for those of you who use RevZilla, can you please let me know what would
be your top 2 features you'd like to see added? Based on feedback, that will
allow me to determine which is most needed by the Rev community.
Thanks,
My top feature would be to make it compatible with MetaCard.
Robert
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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-27 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/27/04 4:30 PM, "Scott Slaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   One thing that I've wanted to see in RevZilla is visual feedback on
> the button on the various pages that will take you to BugZilla's page
> on that bug.  Right now, if I click it, nothing happens.  I then wait
> a few seconds for my web browser to come up before I know for sure
> that it was actually clicked.  It would be wonderful if the button had
> a hilited state so that I could see when I hold the mouse down on it.

No problem... I'll add some kind of indicator.

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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-27 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/27/04 8:54 PM, "Jay Madren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I use Firefox as my default browser, but to get RevZilla to work I just used
> IE to login to Bugzilla and set the cookie one time.  Ever since then
> (several months ago), I've never had to go back to IE.  Clicking on the
> links in RevZilla takes me to Bugzilla in Firefox just fine.

True. And I've added Firefox support for OS X, but right now I'm working on
a way to avoid the whole "cookie" issue and just allow you to provide an
email address and password to log in automatically. If this works, it won't
mattter what browser you're using... if it doesn't, I'll add Firefox support
for Windows. 

:-)

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RE: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-27 Thread Jay Madren
Scott,

I use Firefox as my default browser, but to get RevZilla to work I just used
IE to login to Bugzilla and set the cookie one time.  Ever since then
(several months ago), I've never had to go back to IE.  Clicking on the
links in RevZilla takes me to Bugzilla in Firefox just fine.

Jay Madren

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  One thing that I've wanted to see in RevZilla is visual feedback on
the button on the various pages that will take you to BugZilla's page
on that bug.  Right now, if I click it, nothing happens.  I then wait
a few seconds for my web browser to come up before I know for sure
that it was actually clicked.  It would be wonderful if the button had
a hilited state so that I could see when I hold the mouse down on it.
  The other feature I would like to see added is support for Firefox in
Windows.

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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-27 Thread Scott Slaugh
  One thing that I've wanted to see in RevZilla is visual feedback on
the button on the various pages that will take you to BugZilla's page
on that bug.  Right now, if I click it, nothing happens.  I then wait
a few seconds for my web browser to come up before I know for sure
that it was actually clicked.  It would be wonderful if the button had
a hilited state so that I could see when I hold the mouse down on it.
  The other feature I would like to see added is support for Firefox in Windows.

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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-27 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/27/04 6:36 AM, "Graham Samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ken, I just tried this and it didn't work for me straight away: I mean I
> logged on to Bugzilla, searched for something to check it was all working,
> quit MSIE, quit Revolution, reloaded Revolution, reloaded the Revzilla
> plugin; and there were still no items in the 'Post a Bug' tab's pop-up
> buttons. It was only after I checked that Revzilla  'knows' me by searching
> for my own bugs that the 'Post a Bug' tab came back. Just so you know.
> Windows XP Home Edition BTW.

Thanks, Graham. I'll check it out and see how I can make this easier/more
reliable.

>> 1.  It would be cool if we could add comments to an existing bug.
>> 2.  Would also be useful if we could resize the main window.  Sometimes
>> I find myself using the horizontal slider way too much.
> 
> I strongly agree with these. I find the way of adding comments in Bugzilla
> itself strangely hard to do, and anyway I'd **far** rather use Revzilla!

I'll add your votes, thanks!

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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-27 Thread Graham Samuel
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:03:56 -0500, Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 8/26/04 8:21 PM, "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please fix it so that the update function which loads the pop-up buttons
> always works. I can't use Revzilla anymore to post a bug because it 
will say
> "Retreving data from Bugzilla" but never load it into the pop-up buttons.
>  Version 1.1.2

This is probably because you haven't logged into *Bugzilla* in a while.
Unfortunately, the cookies expire and I don't know how to log into Bugzilla
from RevZilla, so if you don't have working popup menus, go to Options and
click "Login to Bugzilla" and log in using your web browser. The next time
you run RevZilla (assuming it hasn't been weeks), the popups should refresh.
Ken, I just tried this and it didn't work for me straight away: I mean I 
logged on to Bugzilla, searched for something to check it was all working, 
quit MSIE, quit Revolution, reloaded Revolution, reloaded the Revzilla 
plugin; and there were still no items in the 'Post a Bug' tab's pop-up 
buttons. It was only after I checked that Revzilla  'knows' me by searching 
for my own bugs that the 'Post a Bug' tab came back. Just so you know. 
Windows XP Home Edition BTW.

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:42:02 -0700, Mark Talluto 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

1.  It would be cool if we could add comments to an existing bug.
2.  Would also be useful if we could resize the main window.  Sometimes
I find myself using the horizontal slider way too much.
I strongly agree with these. I find the way of adding comments in Bugzilla 
itself strangely hard to do, and anyway I'd **far** rather use Revzilla!

Graham

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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-27 Thread tuviah snyder
>1.  It would be cool if we could add comments to an existing bug.
This is essential to me, I cannot use revzilla until this is done. Also the
ability to mark the bug reopened/verified/or fix. If Revzilla can fix the
bug for me even better:-)

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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-26 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/26/04 11:58 PM, "Jay Madren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes, I know you can select multiple entries, but it's not a easy, quick way
> to select a lot of entries.  In my example, to select all versions except
> the 2.5 ones, you have to individually select the 18 non-2.5 choices from
> the version popup.  I don't know of anyone who wants to sit there and do
> that.

Agreed.
 
> So what's needed is a feature like the one on bugzilla (which is really just
> a feature of popups/dropdowns in web forms), where you can shift-click to
> select a whole range of choices.  If that's not easy to do, then maybe a
> checkbox or button to invert the selection, e.g., select the 2.5 choices,
> then select invert which would "invert" or reverse the checkmarks on all
> entries in that field.

Let me think about that - how to best implement it. I'm leaning towards
something like option-click the popup and everything's selected - then
choose the items you want to remove from the popup.

> Another feature which would also help alleviate this tedious
> multiple-selection problem would be the ability to save search criteria.  So
> then I could just call up a saved search, maybe modify it a little, and run
> it.  Of course, this is a worthy feature on its own, no matter if you "fix"
> the multiple selection problem or not.

Nice suggestion! I'll add it to the feature list...

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RE: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-26 Thread Jay Madren
>> Need a way to easily select a range of choices from the drop-down lists
in
>> search.  On bugzilla I can do this by clicking on one entry then
>> shift-clicking on another to select all entries in between.  This is
useful
>> for, lets say, quickly selecting all versions except 2.5.
>
>Actually, if you select more than one thing from the same popup menu in
>Search (the ones under the separator line), the label will change to
>"Multiple" and you'll get multiple checkmarks next to them which will
>indicate that you can search on multiple items within a popup menu. Let me
>know if this will work for you; if not, let me know what you'd like to do
>instead (or in addition).

Yes, I know you can select multiple entries, but it's not a easy, quick way
to select a lot of entries.  In my example, to select all versions except
the 2.5 ones, you have to individually select the 18 non-2.5 choices from
the version popup.  I don't know of anyone who wants to sit there and do
that.

So what's needed is a feature like the one on bugzilla (which is really just
a feature of popups/dropdowns in web forms), where you can shift-click to
select a whole range of choices.  If that's not easy to do, then maybe a
checkbox or button to invert the selection, e.g., select the 2.5 choices,
then select invert which would "invert" or reverse the checkmarks on all
entries in that field.

Another feature which would also help alleviate this tedious
multiple-selection problem would be the ability to save search criteria.  So
then I could just call up a saved search, maybe modify it a little, and run
it.  Of course, this is a worthy feature on its own, no matter if you "fix"
the multiple selection problem or not.

Jay Madren

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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-26 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/26/04 10:42 PM, "Mark Talluto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 1.  It would be cool if we could add comments to an existing bug.

Agreed.

> 2.  Would also be useful if we could resize the main window.  Sometimes
> I find myself using the horizontal slider way too much.

That's 2 votes... :-)

> I use this program everyday.  You are doing a good job Ken.

Thanks, Mark!

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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-26 Thread Mark Talluto
On Aug 26, 2004, at 11:27 AM, Ken Ray wrote:

So for those of you who use RevZilla, can you please let me know what 
would
be your top 2 features you'd like to see added? Based on feedback, 
that will
allow me to determine which is most needed by the Rev community.


1.  It would be cool if we could add comments to an existing bug.
2.  Would also be useful if we could resize the main window.  Sometimes 
I find myself using the horizontal slider way too much.

I use this program everyday.  You are doing a good job Ken.
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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-26 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/26/04 8:21 PM, "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Please fix it so that the update function which loads the pop-up buttons
> always works. I can't use Revzilla anymore to post a bug because it will say
> "Retreving data from Bugzilla" but never load it into the pop-up buttons.
>  Version 1.1.2

This is probably because you haven't logged into *Bugzilla* in a while.
Unfortunately, the cookies expire and I don't know how to log into Bugzilla
from RevZilla, so if you don't have working popup menus, go to Options and
click "Login to Bugzilla" and log in using your web browser. The next time
you run RevZilla (assuming it hasn't been weeks), the popups should refresh.

Speaking of that, does anyone know how to log into Bugzilla *directly*
without using stored cookies?

> Also when reporting bugs with the 2.5b2 we are supposed to upload the
> compressed log. It would be nice if we had a button for that..

Ah... attachments. I'll add that to the list.

Thanks!

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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-26 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/26/04 3:15 PM, "Jay Madren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ken,
> 
> Well, I've got 3 that are all equally important. :)
> 
> Either make the bug display form wider or make it remember its size when I
> change it.  Needed because, at least on my system, line breaks in the
> description seem to be hard coded, so then of course your line wrapping
> doesn't really reformat it properly to better fit the space.

Agreed. I'll add that to my list.

> Add Version to the bug list table.  To help with conserving space, you could
> get rid of the Priority column (no one hardly uses it - almost all of them
> are P2).

Sounds good.

> Need a way to easily select a range of choices from the drop-down lists in
> search.  On bugzilla I can do this by clicking on one entry then
> shift-clicking on another to select all entries in between.  This is useful
> for, lets say, quickly selecting all versions except 2.5.

Actually, if you select more than one thing from the same popup menu in
Search (the ones under the separator line), the label will change to
"Multiple" and you'll get multiple checkmarks next to them which will
indicate that you can search on mutiple items within a popup menu. Let me
know if this will work for you; if not, let me know what you'd like to do
instead (or in addition).

Ken Ray
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Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-26 Thread Bill
Please fix it so that the update function which loads the pop-up buttons
always works. I can't use Revzilla anymore to post a bug because it will say
"Retreving data from Bugzilla" but never load it into the pop-up buttons.
 Version 1.1.2

Also when reporting bugs with the 2.5b2 we are supposed to upload the
compressed log. It would be nice if we had a button for that..

On 8/26/04 2:27 PM, "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm getting ready to have some time available to enhance RevZilla, and want
> to make sure that I am adding things in the order that people will most want
> them. The current version is 1.1.2, and I have a 1.1.3 that hasn't been
> released yet, but has the following additions:
> 
> - Added support for Firefox to the OS X browser list
> - Added info about trying to use AOL with RevZilla
> - A few cosmetic adjustments
> 
> So for those of you who use RevZilla, can you please let me know what would
> be your top 2 features you'd like to see added? Based on feedback, that will
> allow me to determine which is most needed by the Rev community.
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software
> Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-26 Thread Jay Madren
Ken,

Well, I've got 3 that are all equally important. :)

Either make the bug display form wider or make it remember its size when I
change it.  Needed because, at least on my system, line breaks in the
description seem to be hard coded, so then of course your line wrapping
doesn't really reformat it properly to better fit the space.

Add Version to the bug list table.  To help with conserving space, you could
get rid of the Priority column (no one hardly uses it - almost all of them
are P2).

Need a way to easily select a range of choices from the drop-down lists in
search.  On bugzilla I can do this by clicking on one entry then
shift-clicking on another to select all entries in between.  This is useful
for, lets say, quickly selecting all versions except 2.5.

Jay Madren

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I'm getting ready to have some time available to enhance RevZilla, and want
to make sure that I am adding things in the order that people will most want
them. The current version is 1.1.2, and I have a 1.1.3 that hasn't been
released yet, but has the following additions:

- Added support for Firefox to the OS X browser list
- Added info about trying to use AOL with RevZilla
- A few cosmetic adjustments

So for those of you who use RevZilla, can you please let me know what would
be your top 2 features you'd like to see added? Based on feedback, that will
allow me to determine which is most needed by the Rev community.

Thanks,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?

2004-08-26 Thread Ken Ray
I'm getting ready to have some time available to enhance RevZilla, and want
to make sure that I am adding things in the order that people will most want
them. The current version is 1.1.2, and I have a 1.1.3 that hasn't been
released yet, but has the following additions:

- Added support for Firefox to the OS X browser list
- Added info about trying to use AOL with RevZilla
- A few cosmetic adjustments

So for those of you who use RevZilla, can you please let me know what would
be your top 2 features you'd like to see added? Based on feedback, that will
allow me to determine which is most needed by the Rev community.

Thanks, 

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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