Re: Running an angular application

[Geertjan Wielenga]

That's great to hear. :-)

Gj


On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 1:12 AM, Derik Devecchio 
wrote:

> Thanks!
> The two YouTube videos, especially JavaOne 2017,were exactly the kind of
> reference that I was asking for in my original question.
>
>
> —
> derik
>
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> We start by running scripts through the files applicable to a particular
> donation to verify that they’re Oracle or Sun licensed. In addition, some
> cases individual people have put their own name in the copyright area in
> which case we need to track them down to make sure the related code really
> belongs to Oracle. In other cases there is no license at all and then we
> need to determine the ownership of that file. Similarly for the images.
>
> The bottom line is Oracle cannot donate that which does not belong to
> Oracle and in the 20 years or so of NetBeans existence a lot of non
> compliant things may or may not have happened.
>
> The 1st donation, done last year, was about 45000 files which was about
> 4000,000 lines of code. The 2nd donation, which we’re working on right now,
> is smaller, about 1.500.000 lines of code.
>
> This is a massive process and it’s amazing that we’re as far as we are.
> But you could also simply go to the Apache NetBeans blog where you’ll find
> two YouTube clips, one from Devoxx 2017, the other from JavaOne 2017, where
> everything is explained.
>
> Please do that — watch those YouTube clips and don’t immediately respond
> with more questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
> On Friday, June 1, 2018, Derik Devecchio  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the rapid response.   But I didn’t convey the meaning of my
>> question.
>>
>> So let me ask something more specific.
>> On the page you reference there is something like
>> *Acceptance of Apache Software Grant Agreement*
>>
>>1. *Done: 1st code donation*
>>2. *In process: 2nd code donation*
>>
>>
>> In this context, does the word donation refer to just sending the code
>> over?   Or the entire process of code review, delivering it to Apache
>> hardware, acceptance by the Apache PMC, acquisition of a number of
>> volunteers to continue to maintain development, installation of the
>> firmware on a Apache server, and integration of that new code into the
>> existing project?
>>
>> That page you referenced also has words like this.
>>
>>1. *Done: code written in the above clusters (for example. related to
>>Java 9 features) written since the review process started.*
>>
>>
>> Is there any additional information about what kind of review is done by
>> Oracle personal before the code is handed over to Apache?  What is meant by
>> “review”.  Is it just a matter of checking to make sure there is no
>> proprietary material left in the code before it is donated?   If so, how is
>> that accomplished.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I can't speak for other companies. I can't speak for other large
>> donations like this. I can only speak for the process that we're going
>> through, have been going through, since October 2016, and here it is:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition
>> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Derik Devecchio > > wrote:
>>
>>> Gj,
>>>
>>> Is there a web page somewhere that documents the process that a large
>>> company like Oracle goes through to make a large donation like this?
>>>
>>> It is probably more complicated than going to the Java group and saying
>>> “Pack all your source code in a zip file and send it to Apache.  Tell them
>>> to write a script to remove our name from every source file and add theirs
>>> if they want”.
>>>
>>> On the other hand you make it sound like there were lawyers pouring over
>>> every line of source to make sure there is no liability to releasing it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:20 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No offence, but please read the blog:
>>>
>>> https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netb
>>> eans-incubating-91
>>> 
>>>
>>> Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle
>>> who have contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning:

Re: How to build JavaCC from source?

[Peter Nabbefeld]

Thank You Antonio!

I didn't even think about the possibility, this project could be based 
on sth. other than Maven ... rather strange, IMHO, having the whole 
project structure and a POM.


Kind regards
Peter


Am 02.06.2018 um 06:18 schrieb Antonio:

Hi Peter,

After reading the documentation: this is an ant based project!

I just run "ant" and I build the thing withing 5 seconds [1].

Maybe you want to try to import into NetBeans as an Ant project?

Cheers,
Antonio

[1]

[...]
    [javac] Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
  [jar] Building jar: /home/antonio/tmp/javacc/target/javacc.jar
  [jar] Building jar: 
/home/antonio/tmp/javacc/target/javacc-7.0.4.jar


BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 5 seconds



On 01/06/18 23:27, Peter Nabbefeld wrote:


Hi Antonio,

trying to build using NB was my first approach, of course, but 
resulted in several problems.


When trying from the command line, I get following errors (Java9 is 
default on my computer):

[ERROR] COMPILATION ERROR :
[INFO] -
[ERROR] Source option 1.5 is no longer supported. Use 1.6 or later.
[ERROR] Target option 1.5 is no longer supported. Use 1.6 or later.

Obviously it uses wrong JDK - probably JDK 9 isn't correctly 
identified yet, and Java 5 is taken as a fallback. So, as JDK 10 is 
current version, the POM is at least not ready for modern Java.


After adding the source and target properties, there 's a long list 
with errors. It seems to me, that this special POM might probably 
work with Eclipse (there're Eclipse project files in the repository), 
but I don't see how to build the project even from the command line.  
:-/


Kind regards
Peter



Am 01.06.2018 um 21:04 schrieb Antonio:

Hi,

Can you run a plain Maven build in the command line? Is this a 
Maven/pom.xml problem or a NetBeans problem?


If your objective is to build JavaCC from source, I don't think 
messing with the pom.xml (as retrieved from github's master branch) 
is a good idea.


I imagine the JavaCC people have a proper "pom.xml" file in their 
master branch. Just clone the repo and import it in NetBeans, then 
"Clean & Build" should do the job for you.


Cheers,
Antonio

On 01/06/18 19:20, Peter Nabbefeld wrote:


Hello,

I cloned JavaCC from "https://github.com/javacc/javacc.git"; and 
tried to build it with NB 9.0 RC1. Of course, I first set the 
source/target versions to 1.8.


[1] The source hierarchy looks a bit suspicious, most probably 
because of several entries like the following in pom.xml:

src
 As I've never used those (to be honest, most changes I do in 
the POM are just adding copied dependencies), I don't know how to 
fix these. As I'm seeing Eclipse project files, I'd guess, that it 
handles them differently.


[2] As a result of the mal-configured hierarchy, packages are 
incorrectly interpreted by NB.


Usually, I'd guess the build file is correct, but IMHO maven should 
be able to build the project then without worrying, if NB 
interpretes the files correctly. So, could anybody tell me how to 
fix the build problems?



Kind regards
Peter


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Re: How to build JavaCC from source?

[Antonio]

Hi Peter,

After reading the documentation: this is an ant based project!

I just run "ant" and I build the thing withing 5 seconds [1].

Maybe you want to try to import into NetBeans as an Ant project?

Cheers,
Antonio

[1]

[...]
[javac] Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
  [jar] Building jar: /home/antonio/tmp/javacc/target/javacc.jar
  [jar] Building jar: /home/antonio/tmp/javacc/target/javacc-7.0.4.jar

BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 5 seconds



On 01/06/18 23:27, Peter Nabbefeld wrote:


Hi Antonio,

trying to build using NB was my first approach, of course, but resulted 
in several problems.


When trying from the command line, I get following errors (Java9 is 
default on my computer):

[ERROR] COMPILATION ERROR :
[INFO] -
[ERROR] Source option 1.5 is no longer supported. Use 1.6 or later.
[ERROR] Target option 1.5 is no longer supported. Use 1.6 or later.

Obviously it uses wrong JDK - probably JDK 9 isn't correctly identified 
yet, and Java 5 is taken as a fallback. So, as JDK 10 is current 
version, the POM is at least not ready for modern Java.


After adding the source and target properties, there 's a long list with 
errors. It seems to me, that this special POM might probably work with 
Eclipse (there're Eclipse project files in the repository), but I don't 
see how to build the project even from the command line.  :-/


Kind regards
Peter



Am 01.06.2018 um 21:04 schrieb Antonio:

Hi,

Can you run a plain Maven build in the command line? Is this a 
Maven/pom.xml problem or a NetBeans problem?


If your objective is to build JavaCC from source, I don't think 
messing with the pom.xml (as retrieved from github's master branch) is 
a good idea.


I imagine the JavaCC people have a proper "pom.xml" file in their 
master branch. Just clone the repo and import it in NetBeans, then 
"Clean & Build" should do the job for you.


Cheers,
Antonio

On 01/06/18 19:20, Peter Nabbefeld wrote:


Hello,

I cloned JavaCC from "https://github.com/javacc/javacc.git"; and tried 
to build it with NB 9.0 RC1. Of course, I first set the source/target 
versions to 1.8.


[1] The source hierarchy looks a bit suspicious, most probably 
because of several entries like the following in pom.xml:

src
 As I've never used those (to be honest, most changes I do in the 
POM are just adding copied dependencies), I don't know how to fix 
these. As I'm seeing Eclipse project files, I'd guess, that it 
handles them differently.


[2] As a result of the mal-configured hierarchy, packages are 
incorrectly interpreted by NB.


Usually, I'd guess the build file is correct, but IMHO maven should 
be able to build the project then without worrying, if NB interpretes 
the files correctly. So, could anybody tell me how to fix the build 
problems?



Kind regards
Peter


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Re: Running an angular application

[Derik Devecchio]

Thanks!
The two YouTube videos, especially JavaOne 2017,were exactly the kind of 
reference that I was asking for in my original question.


—
derik



On Jun 1, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
wrote:



We start by running scripts through the files applicable to a particular 
donation to verify that they’re Oracle or Sun licensed. In addition, some cases 
individual people have put their own name in the copyright area in which case 
we need to track them down to make sure the related code really belongs to 
Oracle. In other cases there is no license at all and then we need to determine 
the ownership of that file. Similarly for the images.

The bottom line is Oracle cannot donate that which does not belong to Oracle 
and in the 20 years or so of NetBeans existence a lot of non compliant things 
may or may not have happened.

The 1st donation, done last year, was about 45000 files which was about 
4000,000 lines of code. The 2nd donation, which we’re working on right now, is 
smaller, about 1.500.000 lines of code.

This is a massive process and it’s amazing that we’re as far as we are. But you 
could also simply go to the Apache NetBeans blog where you’ll find two YouTube 
clips, one from Devoxx 2017, the other from JavaOne 2017, where everything is 
explained.

Please do that — watch those YouTube clips and don’t immediately respond with 
more questions.

Thanks,

Gj

On Friday, June 1, 2018, Derik Devecchio 
mailto:ddevecc...@celestron.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the rapid response.   But I didn’t convey the meaning of my question.

So let me ask something more specific.
On the page you reference there is something like
Acceptance of Apache Software Grant Agreement

  1.  Done: 1st code donation
  2.  In process: 2nd code donation

In this context, does the word donation refer to just sending the code over?   
Or the entire process of code review, delivering it to Apache hardware, 
acceptance by the Apache PMC, acquisition of a number of volunteers to continue 
to maintain development, installation of the firmware on a Apache server, and 
integration of that new code into the existing project?

That page you referenced also has words like this.

  1.  Done: code written in the above clusters (for example. related to Java 9 
features) written since the review process started.

Is there any additional information about what kind of review is done by Oracle 
personal before the code is handed over to Apache?  What is meant by “review”.  
Is it just a matter of checking to make sure there is no proprietary material 
left in the code before it is donated?   If so, how is that accomplished.




On Jun 1, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
wrote:

I can't speak for other companies. I can't speak for other large donations like 
this. I can only speak for the process that we're going through, have been 
going through, since October 2016, and here it is:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition

Thanks,

Gj



On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Derik Devecchio 
mailto:ddevecc...@celestron.com>> wrote:
Gj,

Is there a web page somewhere that documents the process that a large company 
like Oracle goes through to make a large donation like this?

It is probably more complicated than going to the Java group and saying “Pack 
all your source code in a zip file and send it to Apache.  Tell them to write a 
script to remove our name from every source file and add theirs if they want”.

On the other hand you make it sound like there were lawyers pouring over every 
line of source to make sure there is no liability to releasing it.






On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:20 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
wrote:

No offence, but please read the blog:

https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netbeans-incubating-91

Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle who have 
contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors

Re: How to build JavaCC from source?

[Peter Nabbefeld]

Hi Antonio,

trying to build using NB was my first approach, of course, but resulted 
in several problems.


When trying from the command line, I get following errors (Java9 is 
default on my computer):

[ERROR] COMPILATION ERROR :
[INFO] -
[ERROR] Source option 1.5 is no longer supported. Use 1.6 or later.
[ERROR] Target option 1.5 is no longer supported. Use 1.6 or later.

Obviously it uses wrong JDK - probably JDK 9 isn't correctly identified 
yet, and Java 5 is taken as a fallback. So, as JDK 10 is current 
version, the POM is at least not ready for modern Java.


After adding the source and target properties, there 's a long list with 
errors. It seems to me, that this special POM might probably work with 
Eclipse (there're Eclipse project files in the repository), but I don't 
see how to build the project even from the command line.  :-/


Kind regards
Peter



Am 01.06.2018 um 21:04 schrieb Antonio:

Hi,

Can you run a plain Maven build in the command line? Is this a 
Maven/pom.xml problem or a NetBeans problem?


If your objective is to build JavaCC from source, I don't think 
messing with the pom.xml (as retrieved from github's master branch) is 
a good idea.


I imagine the JavaCC people have a proper "pom.xml" file in their 
master branch. Just clone the repo and import it in NetBeans, then 
"Clean & Build" should do the job for you.


Cheers,
Antonio

On 01/06/18 19:20, Peter Nabbefeld wrote:


Hello,

I cloned JavaCC from "https://github.com/javacc/javacc.git"; and tried 
to build it with NB 9.0 RC1. Of course, I first set the source/target 
versions to 1.8.


[1] The source hierarchy looks a bit suspicious, most probably 
because of several entries like the following in pom.xml:

src
 As I've never used those (to be honest, most changes I do in the 
POM are just adding copied dependencies), I don't know how to fix 
these. As I'm seeing Eclipse project files, I'd guess, that it 
handles them differently.


[2] As a result of the mal-configured hierarchy, packages are 
incorrectly interpreted by NB.


Usually, I'd guess the build file is correct, but IMHO maven should 
be able to build the project then without worrying, if NB interpretes 
the files correctly. So, could anybody tell me how to fix the build 
problems?



Kind regards
Peter


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Re: Netbeans 9 RC 1 : Maven web project with tomcat integration ?

[Franck Arnulfo]

For the record: installation of "Java EE Base" plugin enable maven web
project.
Just need to download a tomcat release and configure it in Netbeans, but
it's working fine.

May be it should be mentionned for users like me that are used to have a
full package.
Example :
https://old.reddit.com/r/java/comments/8n9ini/apache_netbeans_90_rc1_released/dzu2ofb/


On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:58 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 RC1 constitutes all the modules in the
> 'release90' branch of the Apache NetBeans Git repo (
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans), which together provide the
> NetBeans Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), which was
> released as Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating), as well as all the
> modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans. In
> short, Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 RC1 is a full IDE for Java SE
> development.
>
> All the details are here: https://blogs.apache.
> org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netbeans-incubating-91
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:53 PM, Franck Arnulfo  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Netbeans 9 RC 1 didn’t include web project for a new maven project wizard.
>> And it seems that there is no more Tomcat installation.
>> Is it planned for the final release ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>
>


-- 
Franck

Re: How to build JavaCC from source?

[Antonio]

Hi,

Can you run a plain Maven build in the command line? Is this a 
Maven/pom.xml problem or a NetBeans problem?


If your objective is to build JavaCC from source, I don't think messing 
with the pom.xml (as retrieved from github's master branch) is a good idea.


I imagine the JavaCC people have a proper "pom.xml" file in their master 
branch. Just clone the repo and import it in NetBeans, then "Clean & 
Build" should do the job for you.


Cheers,
Antonio

On 01/06/18 19:20, Peter Nabbefeld wrote:


Hello,

I cloned JavaCC from "https://github.com/javacc/javacc.git"; and tried to 
build it with NB 9.0 RC1. Of course, I first set the source/target 
versions to 1.8.


[1] The source hierarchy looks a bit suspicious, most probably because 
of several entries like the following in pom.xml:

src
     As I've never used those (to be honest, most changes I do in the 
POM are just adding copied dependencies), I don't know how to fix these. 
As I'm seeing Eclipse project files, I'd guess, that it handles them 
differently.


[2] As a result of the mal-configured hierarchy, packages are 
incorrectly interpreted by NB.


Usually, I'd guess the build file is correct, but IMHO maven should be 
able to build the project then without worrying, if NB interpretes the 
files correctly. So, could anybody tell me how to fix the build problems?



Kind regards
Peter


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Re: Running an angular application

[Geertjan Wielenga]

We start by running scripts through the files applicable to a particular
donation to verify that they’re Oracle or Sun licensed. In addition, some
cases individual people have put their own name in the copyright area in
which case we need to track them down to make sure the related code really
belongs to Oracle. In other cases there is no license at all and then we
need to determine the ownership of that file. Similarly for the images.

The bottom line is Oracle cannot donate that which does not belong to
Oracle and in the 20 years or so of NetBeans existence a lot of non
compliant things may or may not have happened.

The 1st donation, done last year, was about 45000 files which was about
4000,000 lines of code. The 2nd donation, which we’re working on right now,
is smaller, about 1.500.000 lines of code.

This is a massive process and it’s amazing that we’re as far as we are. But
you could also simply go to the Apache NetBeans blog where you’ll find two
YouTube clips, one from Devoxx 2017, the other from JavaOne 2017, where
everything is explained.

Please do that — watch those YouTube clips and don’t immediately respond
with more questions.

Thanks,

Gj

On Friday, June 1, 2018, Derik Devecchio  wrote:

> Thanks for the rapid response.   But I didn’t convey the meaning of my
> question.
>
> So let me ask something more specific.
> On the page you reference there is something like
> *Acceptance of Apache Software Grant Agreement*
>
>1. *Done: 1st code donation*
>2. *In process: 2nd code donation*
>
>
> In this context, does the word donation refer to just sending the code
> over?   Or the entire process of code review, delivering it to Apache
> hardware, acceptance by the Apache PMC, acquisition of a number of
> volunteers to continue to maintain development, installation of the
> firmware on a Apache server, and integration of that new code into the
> existing project?
>
> That page you referenced also has words like this.
>
>1. *Done: code written in the above clusters (for example. related to
>Java 9 features) written since the review process started.*
>
>
> Is there any additional information about what kind of review is done by
> Oracle personal before the code is handed over to Apache?  What is meant by
> “review”.  Is it just a matter of checking to make sure there is no
> proprietary material left in the code before it is donated?   If so, how is
> that accomplished.
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> I can't speak for other companies. I can't speak for other large donations
> like this. I can only speak for the process that we're going through, have
> been going through, since October 2016, and here it is:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition
> 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Derik Devecchio 
> wrote:
>
>> Gj,
>>
>> Is there a web page somewhere that documents the process that a large
>> company like Oracle goes through to make a large donation like this?
>>
>> It is probably more complicated than going to the Java group and saying
>> “Pack all your source code in a zip file and send it to Apache.  Tell them
>> to write a script to remove our name from every source file and add theirs
>> if they want”.
>>
>> On the other hand you make it sound like there were lawyers pouring over
>> every line of source to make sure there is no liability to releasing it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:20 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No offence, but please read the blog:
>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-
>> netbeans-incubating-91
>> 
>>
>> Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle
>> who have contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning:
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors
>> 
>>
>> Above, I see many people from Oracle. I don't see you. I therefore prefer
>> people from Oracle.

Re: Running an angular application

[Derik Devecchio]

Thanks for the rapid response.   But I didn’t convey the meaning of my question.

So let me ask something more specific.
On the page you reference there is something like
Acceptance of Apache Software Grant Agreement

  1.  Done: 1st code donation
  2.  In process: 2nd code donation

In this context, does the word donation refer to just sending the code over?   
Or the entire process of code review, delivering it to Apache hardware, 
acceptance by the Apache PMC, acquisition of a number of volunteers to continue 
to maintain development, installation of the firmware on a Apache server, and 
integration of that new code into the existing project?

That page you referenced also has words like this.

  1.  Done: code written in the above clusters (for example. related to Java 9 
features) written since the review process started.

Is there any additional information about what kind of review is done by Oracle 
personal before the code is handed over to Apache?  What is meant by “review”.  
Is it just a matter of checking to make sure there is no proprietary material 
left in the code before it is donated?   If so, how is that accomplished.




On Jun 1, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
wrote:

I can't speak for other companies. I can't speak for other large donations like 
this. I can only speak for the process that we're going through, have been 
going through, since October 2016, and here it is:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition

Thanks,

Gj



On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Derik Devecchio 
mailto:ddevecc...@celestron.com>> wrote:
Gj,

Is there a web page somewhere that documents the process that a large company 
like Oracle goes through to make a large donation like this?

It is probably more complicated than going to the Java group and saying “Pack 
all your source code in a zip file and send it to Apache.  Tell them to write a 
script to remove our name from every source file and add theirs if they want”.

On the other hand you make it sound like there were lawyers pouring over every 
line of source to make sure there is no liability to releasing it.






On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:20 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
wrote:

No offence, but please read the blog:

https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netbeans-incubating-91

Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle who have 
contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors

Above, I see many people from Oracle. I don't see you. I therefore prefer 
people from Oracle. :-)

Thanks,

Gj


On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Karl 
mailto:karl.ranse...@justmail.de>> wrote:

No offense, but what use is a Java IDE in 2018 without support for web 
applications?

If that is Oracle's secret plan to kill NetBeans by making it unusable for 
professional development, it's working.

Is there at least a time frame on why Oracle wants to donate that? (If they 
actually pan to do that)

Karl

Am 30.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
Not in 9.0, which is focused on Java SE only. All the JavaScript features (and 
Java EE, PHP, Groovy, C/C++) must still be donated to Apache by Oracle.

Gj

On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Mark A. Claassen 
mailto:mclaas...@ocie.net>> wrote:
I have an Angular application that works just fine running “ng serve” from the 
command line.  What is the best way to run this project  in netbeans?  I found 
some things on the internet, but they seem out of date or not quite what I 
want.  Can I run this as a Node.js application and with the correct project 
properties, have netbeans run “ng serve”?

Thanks!

Mark Claassen
Senior Software Engineer

How to build JavaCC from source?

[Peter Nabbefeld]

Hello,

I cloned JavaCC from "https://github.com/javacc/javacc.git"; and tried to 
build it with NB 9.0 RC1. Of course, I first set the source/target 
versions to 1.8.


[1] The source hierarchy looks a bit suspicious, most probably because 
of several entries like the following in pom.xml:

src
    As I've never used those (to be honest, most changes I do in the 
POM are just adding copied dependencies), I don't know how to fix these. 
As I'm seeing Eclipse project files, I'd guess, that it handles them 
differently.


[2] As a result of the mal-configured hierarchy, packages are 
incorrectly interpreted by NB.


Usually, I'd guess the build file is correct, but IMHO maven should be 
able to build the project then without worrying, if NB interpretes the 
files correctly. So, could anybody tell me how to fix the build problems?



Kind regards
Peter


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Re: Running an angular application

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I can't speak for other companies. I can't speak for other large donations
like this. I can only speak for the process that we're going through, have
been going through, since October 2016, and here it is:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition

Thanks,

Gj



On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Derik Devecchio 
wrote:

> Gj,
>
> Is there a web page somewhere that documents the process that a large
> company like Oracle goes through to make a large donation like this?
>
> It is probably more complicated than going to the Java group and saying
> “Pack all your source code in a zip file and send it to Apache.  Tell them
> to write a script to remove our name from every source file and add theirs
> if they want”.
>
> On the other hand you make it sound like there were lawyers pouring over
> every line of source to make sure there is no liability to releasing it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:20 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> No offence, but please read the blog:
>
> https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-
> apache-netbeans-incubating-91
> 
>
> Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle who
> have contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors
> 
>
> Above, I see many people from Oracle. I don't see you. I therefore prefer
> people from Oracle. :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Karl  wrote:
>
>> No offense, but what use is a Java IDE in 2018 without support for web
>> applications?
>>
>> If that is Oracle's secret plan to kill NetBeans by making it unusable
>> for professional development, it's working.
>>
>> Is there at least a time frame on why Oracle wants to donate that? (If
>> they actually pan to do that)
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> Am 30.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>>
>> Not in 9.0, which is focused on Java SE only. All the JavaScript features
>> (and Java EE, PHP, Groovy, C/C++) must still be donated to Apache by
>> Oracle.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Mark A. Claassen  wrote:
>>
>>> I have an Angular application that works just fine running “ng serve”
>>> from the command line.  What is the best way to run this project  in
>>> netbeans?  I found some things on the internet, but they seem out of date
>>> or not quite what I want.  Can I run this as a Node.js application and with
>>> the correct project properties, have netbeans run “ng serve”?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Claassen
>>>
>>> Senior Software Engineer
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Running an angular application

[Derik Devecchio]

Gj,

Is there a web page somewhere that documents the process that a large company 
like Oracle goes through to make a large donation like this?

It is probably more complicated than going to the Java group and saying “Pack 
all your source code in a zip file and send it to Apache.  Tell them to write a 
script to remove our name from every source file and add theirs if they want”.

On the other hand you make it sound like there were lawyers pouring over every 
line of source to make sure there is no liability to releasing it.






On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:20 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> 
wrote:

No offence, but please read the blog:

https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netbeans-incubating-91

Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle who have 
contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors

Above, I see many people from Oracle. I don't see you. I therefore prefer 
people from Oracle. :-)

Thanks,

Gj


On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Karl 
mailto:karl.ranse...@justmail.de>> wrote:

No offense, but what use is a Java IDE in 2018 without support for web 
applications?

If that is Oracle's secret plan to kill NetBeans by making it unusable for 
professional development, it's working.

Is there at least a time frame on why Oracle wants to donate that? (If they 
actually pan to do that)

Karl

Am 30.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
Not in 9.0, which is focused on Java SE only. All the JavaScript features (and 
Java EE, PHP, Groovy, C/C++) must still be donated to Apache by Oracle.

Gj

On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Mark A. Claassen 
mailto:mclaas...@ocie.net>> wrote:
I have an Angular application that works just fine running “ng serve” from the 
command line.  What is the best way to run this project  in netbeans?  I found 
some things on the internet, but they seem out of date or not quite what I 
want.  Can I run this as a Node.js application and with the correct project 
properties, have netbeans run “ng serve”?

Thanks!

Mark Claassen
Senior Software Engineer

Re: Running an angular application

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Yup, you’re right. Might not always work smoothly but more often than not
should be fine.

Gj

On Friday, June 1, 2018, Michael Andrews  wrote:

>
> Am I missing something? Aren’t all the plugins that make up the web
> experience available (and installable) from the plugins pane?
>
> I upgraded to the RC last night, and found that installing the Java EE
> stuff was super simple. Sure, they are not bundled as they use to be. But
> that is just a temporary thing.
>
> What’s the issue?
>
> M
>
> On Jun 1, 2018, at 6:06 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, it does:
>
> FYI, see the below for the donation status of features that have not been
> donated to Apache yet, e.g., features for working with Java EE, JavaScript,
> PHP, C/C++, and more:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition
>
> Please be aware that we're in the process of moving to Apache. It is a
> long process, it's going to continue to be a long process.
>
> We're working hard on getting it done, it takes time, like all good
> things. Again, read the above. We can't promise timelines, though in the
> case of the 2nd donation, we're now very close -- the final approvals are
> being worked on.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Karl  wrote:
>
>> That blog does not mention any plans to donate those vital parts to make
>> Apache NetBeans an IDE for (modern)  Web Applications.
>>
>> Does that mean there is no such plan?
>>
>> And yes, I am not a contributor - I am a user and have been for over 15
>> years.
>> The community does not only consist of contributors - it also needs happy
>> users to grow.
>>
>> I have been trying to advocate  NetBeans in my work environment (30%
>> InteliJ, 69% Eclipse), but this is getting increasingly difficult to
>> justify.
>>
>> I actually had a conversation like that some weeks ago:
>>
>> someone:  "Hey Karl, I would like to try NetBeans as that apparently
>> works so well for you"
>> me: Sure, download NetBeans from https://netbeans.org/ it has everything
>> you need
>> someone: Does it support Java 10?
>> me: No, but you can use the Apache NetBeans 9.0 dev build - it's pretty
>> stable
>> someone (a few minutes later): I can't find the JSP or the JavaScript
>> support. How can I use it for the npm based React parts?
>> me: you can't, Apache NetBeans 9.0 only supports Java SE
>> someone: OK, I'll go back to InteliJ then
>> Karl
>>
>>
>> Am 01.06.2018 um 11:20 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>>
>> No offence, but please read the blog:
>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-
>> netbeans-incubating-91
>>
>> Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle
>> who have contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning:
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors
>>
>> Above, I see many people from Oracle. I don't see you. I therefore prefer
>> people from Oracle. :-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Karl  wrote:
>>
>>> No offense, but what use is a Java IDE in 2018 without support for web
>>> applications?
>>>
>>> If that is Oracle's secret plan to kill NetBeans by making it unusable
>>> for professional development, it's working.
>>>
>>> Is there at least a time frame on why Oracle wants to donate that? (If
>>> they actually pan to do that)
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> Am 30.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>>>
>>> Not in 9.0, which is focused on Java SE only. All the JavaScript
>>> features (and Java EE, PHP, Groovy, C/C++) must still be donated to Apache
>>> by Oracle.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Mark A. Claassen  wrote:
>>>
 I have an Angular application that works just fine running “ng serve”
 from the command line.  What is the best way to run this project  in
 netbeans?  I found some things on the internet, but they seem out of date
 or not quite what I want.  Can I run this as a Node.js application and with
 the correct project properties, have netbeans run “ng serve”?


 Thanks!


 Mark Claassen

 Senior Software Engineer

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Running an angular application

[Michael Andrews]

Am I missing something? Aren’t all the plugins that make up the web experience 
available (and installable) from the plugins pane? 

I upgraded to the RC last night, and found that installing the Java EE stuff 
was super simple. Sure, they are not bundled as they use to be. But that is 
just a temporary thing. 

What’s the issue?

M

> On Jun 1, 2018, at 6:06 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it does:
> FYI, see the below for the donation status of features that have not been 
> donated to Apache yet, e.g., features for working with Java EE, JavaScript, 
> PHP, C/C++, and more:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition 
> 
> Please be aware that we're in the process of moving to Apache. It is a long 
> process, it's going to continue to be a long process.
> 
> We're working hard on getting it done, it takes time, like all good things. 
> Again, read the above. We can't promise timelines, though in the case of the 
> 2nd donation, we're now very close -- the final approvals are being worked on.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gj
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Karl  > wrote:
> That blog does not mention any plans to donate those vital parts to make 
> Apache NetBeans an IDE for (modern)  Web Applications. 
> Does that mean there is no such plan? 
> And yes, I am not a contributor - I am a user and have been for over 15 
> years. 
> The community does not only consist of contributors - it also needs happy 
> users to grow. 
> I have been trying to advocate  NetBeans in my work environment (30% InteliJ, 
> 69% Eclipse), but this is getting increasingly difficult to justify. 
> I actually had a conversation like that some weeks ago:
> 
> someone:  "Hey Karl, I would like to try NetBeans as that apparently works so 
> well for you"
> me: Sure, download NetBeans from https://netbeans.org/ 
>  it has everything you need
> someone: Does it support Java 10? 
> me: No, but you can use the Apache NetBeans 9.0 dev build - it's pretty stable
> someone (a few minutes later): I can't find the JSP or the JavaScript 
> support. How can I use it for the npm based React parts? 
> me: you can't, Apache NetBeans 9.0 only supports Java SE
> someone: OK, I'll go back to InteliJ then
> 
> Karl
> 
> 
> Am 01.06.2018 um 11:20 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>> No offence, but please read the blog:
>> 
>> https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netbeans-incubating-91
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle who 
>> have contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning:
>> 
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors 
>> 
>> 
>> Above, I see many people from Oracle. I don't see you. I therefore prefer 
>> people from Oracle. :-)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Gj
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Karl > > wrote:
>> No offense, but what use is a Java IDE in 2018 without support for web 
>> applications? 
>> If that is Oracle's secret plan to kill NetBeans by making it unusable for 
>> professional development, it's working. 
>> Is there at least a time frame on why Oracle wants to donate that? (If they 
>> actually pan to do that)
>> 
>> Karl
>> 
>> 
>> Am 30.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>>> Not in 9.0, which is focused on Java SE only. All the JavaScript features 
>>> (and Java EE, PHP, Groovy, C/C++) must still be donated to Apache by Oracle.
>>> 
>>> Gj
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Mark A. Claassen >> > wrote:
>>> I have an Angular application that works just fine running “ng serve” from 
>>> the command line.  What is the best way to run this project  in netbeans?  
>>> I found some things on the internet, but they seem out of date or not quite 
>>> what I want.  Can I run this as a Node.js application and with the correct 
>>> project properties, have netbeans run “ng serve”?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Mark Claassen
>>> 
>>> Senior Software Engineer
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: Running an angular application

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Yes, it does:

FYI, see the below for the donation status of features that have not been
donated to Apache yet, e.g., features for working with Java EE, JavaScript,
PHP, C/C++, and more:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition

Please be aware that we're in the process of moving to Apache. It is a long
process, it's going to continue to be a long process.

We're working hard on getting it done, it takes time, like all good things.
Again, read the above. We can't promise timelines, though in the case of
the 2nd donation, we're now very close -- the final approvals are being
worked on.

Thanks,

Gj


On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Karl  wrote:

> That blog does not mention any plans to donate those vital parts to make
> Apache NetBeans an IDE for (modern)  Web Applications.
>
> Does that mean there is no such plan?
>
> And yes, I am not a contributor - I am a user and have been for over 15
> years.
> The community does not only consist of contributors - it also needs happy
> users to grow.
>
> I have been trying to advocate  NetBeans in my work environment (30%
> InteliJ, 69% Eclipse), but this is getting increasingly difficult to
> justify.
>
> I actually had a conversation like that some weeks ago:
>
> someone:  "Hey Karl, I would like to try NetBeans as that apparently works
> so well for you"
> me: Sure, download NetBeans from https://netbeans.org/ it has everything
> you need
> someone: Does it support Java 10?
> me: No, but you can use the Apache NetBeans 9.0 dev build - it's pretty
> stable
> someone (a few minutes later): I can't find the JSP or the JavaScript
> support. How can I use it for the npm based React parts?
> me: you can't, Apache NetBeans 9.0 only supports Java SE
> someone: OK, I'll go back to InteliJ then
> Karl
>
>
> Am 01.06.2018 um 11:20 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>
> No offence, but please read the blog:
>
> https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-
> apache-netbeans-incubating-91
>
> Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle who
> have contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors
>
> Above, I see many people from Oracle. I don't see you. I therefore prefer
> people from Oracle. :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Karl  wrote:
>
>> No offense, but what use is a Java IDE in 2018 without support for web
>> applications?
>>
>> If that is Oracle's secret plan to kill NetBeans by making it unusable
>> for professional development, it's working.
>>
>> Is there at least a time frame on why Oracle wants to donate that? (If
>> they actually pan to do that)
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> Am 30.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>>
>> Not in 9.0, which is focused on Java SE only. All the JavaScript features
>> (and Java EE, PHP, Groovy, C/C++) must still be donated to Apache by
>> Oracle.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Mark A. Claassen  wrote:
>>
>>> I have an Angular application that works just fine running “ng serve”
>>> from the command line.  What is the best way to run this project  in
>>> netbeans?  I found some things on the internet, but they seem out of date
>>> or not quite what I want.  Can I run this as a Node.js application and with
>>> the correct project properties, have netbeans run “ng serve”?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Claassen
>>>
>>> Senior Software Engineer
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Running an angular application

[Karl]

That blog does not mention any plans to donate those vital parts to make Apache NetBeans an IDE for (modern)  Web 
Applications.


Does that mean there is no such plan?

And yes, I am not a contributor - I am a user and have been for over 15 years.
The community does not only consist of contributors - it also needs happy users 
to grow.

I have been trying to advocate  NetBeans in my work environment (30% InteliJ, 69% Eclipse), but this is getting 
increasingly difficult to justify.


I actually had a conversation like that some weeks ago:

someone:  "Hey Karl, I would like to try NetBeans as that apparently works so well 
for you"
me: Sure, download NetBeans from https://netbeans.org/ it has everything you 
need
someone: Does it support Java 10?
me: No, but you can use the Apache NetBeans 9.0 dev build - it's pretty stable
someone (a few minutes later): I can't find the JSP or the JavaScript support. How can I use it for the npm based React 
parts?

me: you can't, Apache NetBeans 9.0 only supports Java SE
someone: OK, I'll go back to InteliJ then

Karl

Am 01.06.2018 um 11:20 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:

No offence, but please read the blog:

https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netbeans-incubating-91

Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle who have contributed to Apache NetBeans from 
the beginning:


https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors

Above, I see many people from Oracle. I don't see you. I therefore prefer 
people from Oracle. :-)

Thanks,

Gj


On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Karl mailto:karl.ranse...@justmail.de>> wrote:

No offense, but what use is a Java IDE in 2018 without support for web 
applications?

If that is Oracle's secret plan to kill NetBeans by making it unusable for 
professional development, it's working.

Is there at least a time frame on why Oracle wants to donate that? (If they 
actually pan to do that)

Karl


Am 30.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:

Not in 9.0, which is focused on Java SE only. All the JavaScript features 
(and Java EE, PHP, Groovy, C/C++) must
still be donated to Apache by Oracle.

Gj

On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Mark A. Claassen mailto:mclaas...@ocie.net>> wrote:

I have an Angular application that works just fine running “ng serve” 
from the command line.  What is the
best way to run this project  in netbeans? I found some things on the 
internet, but they seem out of date or
not quite what I want.  Can I run this as a Node.js application and 
with the correct project properties, have
netbeans run “ng serve”?

Thanks!

Mark Claassen

Senior Software Engineer

Re: Running an angular application

[Geertjan Wielenga]

No offence, but please read the blog:

https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netbeans-incubating-91

Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle who
have contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors

Above, I see many people from Oracle. I don't see you. I therefore prefer
people from Oracle. :-)

Thanks,

Gj


On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Karl  wrote:

> No offense, but what use is a Java IDE in 2018 without support for web
> applications?
>
> If that is Oracle's secret plan to kill NetBeans by making it unusable for
> professional development, it's working.
>
> Is there at least a time frame on why Oracle wants to donate that? (If
> they actually pan to do that)
>
> Karl
>
> Am 30.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>
> Not in 9.0, which is focused on Java SE only. All the JavaScript features
> (and Java EE, PHP, Groovy, C/C++) must still be donated to Apache by
> Oracle.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Mark A. Claassen  wrote:
>
>> I have an Angular application that works just fine running “ng serve”
>> from the command line.  What is the best way to run this project  in
>> netbeans?  I found some things on the internet, but they seem out of date
>> or not quite what I want.  Can I run this as a Node.js application and with
>> the correct project properties, have netbeans run “ng serve”?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Claassen
>>
>> Senior Software Engineer
>>
>
>

Re: Running an angular application

[Karl]

No offense, but what use is a Java IDE in 2018 without support for web 
applications?

If that is Oracle's secret plan to kill NetBeans by making it unusable for 
professional development, it's working.

Is there at least a time frame on why Oracle wants to donate that? (If they 
actually pan to do that)

Karl


Am 30.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
Not in 9.0, which is focused on Java SE only. All the JavaScript features (and Java EE, PHP, Groovy, C/C++) must still 
be donated to Apache by Oracle.


Gj

On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Mark A. Claassen mailto:mclaas...@ocie.net>> wrote:

I have an Angular application that works just fine running “ng serve” from 
the command line.  What is the best way
to run this project  in netbeans?  I found some things on the internet, but 
they seem out of date or not quite
what I want.  Can I run this as a Node.js application and with the correct 
project properties, have netbeans run
“ng serve”?

Thanks!

Mark Claassen

Senior Software Engineer