[users] Re: Auto backup?

[RA Brown]

Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:

Side note:

Assume that your primary hard drive will fail. I have lost three hard
drives in the last year (all the same brand, h) [two different
computers at different sites].

So, if possible, set backups so that you have a copy on a physically
different drive. I am current poking around to see what is needed to
call a custom macro after a save event. The intent is to store a backup
for a specific document on a USB key. I do not know much else about the
requirement for this macro (since it is not my macro, I am just trying
to figure out how to tie in as needed).



Hi Andrew,

I had an idea but can not seem to find anyone to do the coding.  Is it 
possible to use a macro that would, when a file is saved, place a copy 
in two locations?  Example: place a copy in the current working 
directory and a copy with a different file name on an external drive? 
By different I would like to add a date/time stamp to the file name 
(filename.odf? The <> not being used.


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[users] Re: Auto backup?

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David B Teague sr wrote:

On 9/1/2011 8:43 PM, RA Brown wrote:

. wrote:

How can I configure Oo Writer to make automatic backups on the current
document I'm working on?


< clipped original post >




If you know the answer, please answer his question in addition to this
VERY wise advice. Making your own is a damn site safer. If I knew how,
I'd say how here.

Having an automated backup cannot hurt /unless/ it keeps you from making
your own, frequent manual backup.

--David Teague



First, Tools> Options> Load/Save> General, check the Always create 
backup copy.


Second, look at Tools> Options> OpenOffice.org> Paths, to see where they 
are stored.


Third, Good luck.

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[users] Re: Auto backup?

[RA Brown]

. wrote:

How can I configure Oo Writer to make automatic backups on the current
document I'm working on?



That is not something you really want to do.  Never expect a machine to 
do what you should do.  Make several Save-as backups as your working, at 
least two, one in your working location and one on a removable drive, 
with a data/time stamp is best.


With that setup you always have a known good file in case of a hard 
drive crash or a corrupted file.


HTH
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[users] Re: Writer can't do arithmetic?

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John Jason Jordan wrote:

OOo 3.3.0 downloaded from Openoffice.org on Fedora 14, x86_64.

I have a simple table in Writer where I want to do some elementary
math. The table lists stocks, where the second column (B) is the number
of shares, the third column (C) is the basis (price paid), the fourth
column (D) is the current price. In the fifth column (E) I want a
formula that calculates D minus C times B, that is, to show how much
gain or loss there has been. In the last column (F) I want to calculate
the total value based on current price, that is, B times C. Here is the
first line as an example:

A   B   C   D   E   F
AGCO200 43.20   41.25   0.000.00

The formula that I used in E is =sum(D1-C1)*B1. The formula does not
generate any error messages, but as you can see, it thinks the answer
is 0.00, where it should be -390.00. The formula that I used for F is
=sum(B1*D1), but it also displays 0.00 where it should be 8,250.00.

All columns except A are set to general number format.

I can't figure out why the formulas do not calculate the correct
answers. Any help is welcome.


Just a though here.  Did you make sure that the cells that contain 
numbers is formated for numbers?  A table in Writer does not work the 
same as in Calc.  I would suggest using Calc instead.


HTH
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[users] Re: Using OpenOfficeWriter

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Leif Nilsson wrote:

iN I am  a very unexperienced pensioner in data.
I have a Microsoft Windows Vista 32p system and have used open office writer 
for some time.
If I recieve a mail with attachment:
It is not possible to save the file among my documents,
If I make changes in the attachment, The attachment disappears when i return it 
to the sender.
What can I do?
Leif

Leif Nilsson, Göketorpsgatan 15


Hi Leif,

First, this is a mailing list so I would suggest that you not include 
personal information.


Now your questions.  The problem of saving attachments has to do with 
your Operating system and email client.  Where are you trying to save 
the attachment?  Have you tried to the desktop?


The problem of edits being lost is due to the fact that attachments are 
open in a temp location and edits are not saved.


You will need to find out why you can not save attachments then you can 
save the attachments and do the edits.


HTH
Andy

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[users] Re: AutoCorrect doesn't work

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. wrote:

I use autocorrect speed up typing. Example, the letters "tt" and it used
to correct to "that".

Now it doesn't work. Yes, the letters "tt" are in the replace list along
with "that".

How can I fix this?



Have you checked the the While Typing box is checked under Format> 
AutoCorrect ?


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[users] Re: Page Numbering

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RA Brown wrote:

Stavros Hoia wrote:

I am a new user. I would appreciate it a lot if you could answer the
following two questions:

1. How can I put continuous page numbers on top of every page, except
the first?

2. How can I put a different heading (top left and right) on each of
the two columns that I have divided my page?

Your early reply will oblige.

Besr regards from Greece.

STAVROS HOIS--



Hi Stavros,

You do not say which version of OOo you have. The link [1] below leads
to the Documentation Project site. Select the version you using then
find the Formatting Pages chapter. That will give you the information
you need.

HTH
Andy


Dang, forgot the link.

[1] http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/writer3

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[users] Re: Re: User related mailing list

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RA Brown wrote:

Jim Parkhurst wrote:

Is this not a forum? A "forum" (ok, so I'm going back to the BBS
"Echolist" days) is where people with questions would post these
queries to the appropriate echolist (those who posted to te wrong echo
would be interestingly chastised). Persons on the echo having
experience with the problem posed could (would) respond. For the most
part, I "lurk" as the Q&A can sometimes be, um, interesting...



Hi Jim,

Remember those days well, Fidonet. Mailing list are like the old
echolist from BBS days. A forum is an online messaging system. The
messages are stored in a database so that they can be searched and
retrieved quickly. An example is the "Official" OOo forum at [1] and the
"unofficial" OOo forum at [2]. To post a question or answer you have to
register with the forum. Anyone can read and search the database for
prior problems, the suggested way of doing things, without registering.

Andy


Forgot the links, sorry.

[1] http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/

[2] http://www.oooforum.org/

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[users] Re: Re: User related mailing list

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Jim Parkhurst wrote:

Is this not a forum? A "forum" (ok, so I'm going back to the BBS "Echolist" days) is where 
people with questions would post these queries to the appropriate echolist (those who posted to te wrong echo 
would be interestingly chastised). Persons on the echo having experience with the problem posed could (would) 
respond. For the most part, I "lurk" as the Q&A can sometimes be, um, interesting...



Hi Jim,

Remember those days well, Fidonet.  Mailing list are like the old 
echolist from BBS days.  A forum is an online messaging system.  The 
messages are stored in a database so that they can be searched and 
retrieved quickly.  An example is the "Official" OOo forum at [1] and 
the "unofficial" OOo forum at [2].  To post a question or answer you 
have to register with the forum.  Anyone can read and search the 
database for prior problems, the suggested way of doing things, without 
registering.


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[users] Re: Page Numbering

[RA Brown]

Stavros Hoia wrote:

I am a new user. I would appreciate it a lot if you could answer the following 
two questions:

1. How can I put continuous page numbers on top of every page, except the first?

2. How can I put a different heading (top left and right) on each of the two 
columns that I have divided my page?

Your early reply will oblige.

Besr regards from Greece.

STAVROS HOIS--



Hi Stavros,

You do not say which version of OOo you have.  The link [1] below leads 
to the Documentation Project site.  Select the version you using then 
find the Formatting Pages chapter.  That will give you the information 
you need.


HTH
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[users] Re: Open Office Envelopes/addresses

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Rlucas wrote:

I have asked this question twice before but cannot receive an answer.

IN OPEN OFFICE, UNDER ENVELOPES, CAN I SAVE THE ADDRESSES FOR FUTURE USE.
Thanks

Verna Lucas
rlu...@centurytel.net


Hi Verna,

I do not see how as the list is build on the go from a database, thus it 
would change based on the requirements.  If you have addresses that you 
use all the time then create a file with them setup and print from that 
file, that is what I do with mailing labels.


Andy
Please do not reply direct.  I am sending a copy direct to make sure you 
receive it.


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[users] Re: divide page in half?

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Helen wrote:

Thanks but I had tried that. I did that, then said black line/border
down center,
but then when I turn the page back to Portrait, the columns change to
portrait as well.
(I want to divide the page horizontally, but my typing will still be in
portrait mode.)

And to RA, I had actually tried that first -- but I keep getting it slightly
off.  Maybe this question isn't as simple as I thought it was.



Sorry to say that I am really confused.  You are wanting your word to go 
from top to bottom in Portrait layout but you want to lay a line down 
the center of the page but in Landscape layout.


One thing to realize is that columns are a page attribute so change 
according to the page layout.  Putting columns on a Landscape page then 
going to Portrait the columns still go up and down the page.


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[users] Re: divide page in half?

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Helen wrote:

I guess this question is too simple to be taken seriously but I can't
seem to get it right.
How can I divide a page (8.5x11 sheet) in half horizontally, landscape
mode.  I mean, and get it exactly right.
Thanks -I'm embarrassed I can't figure this out.
I can divide vertically by using columns, adding gutter.
Is there a similar feature for landscape mode, horizontal half?
Libre office, 3.3.1,
Thanks much!


Hi Helen,

The one one thing that I can think of is to use a two row, one column 
table.  Then use Table> Autofit tools to adjust the rows to split the 
page.  It will take some trial and error to get the setting right.


HTH
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[users] Re: User related mailing list

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Rlucas wrote:

I AM VERY CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THIS SITE IS ALL ABOUT.

I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF THERE IS AN ADDRESS BOOK AVAILABLE TO PRINT ENVELOPES   
--   ONLY  --  AND CAN YOU STORE ADDRESS THERE.

Thanks

rlu...@centurytel.net


Hi,

First turn off the caps.  It will get you ignored.

Second, OpenOffice.org is an office suite.  It contains a word 
processor, spread sheet, drawing program and a database program. 
Writer. the word processor, can use Base, the database program, to 
create what your looking for.  If all you need is an envelope printer 
there maybe other free programs that will do the job.


You can have a look at [1] and find the Getting Started with Writer 
guide to get started.  Other manuals are on the same site a couple of 
levels up.


HTH
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[users] Re: Change Color of Tool bar area?

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. wrote:


How do I change the color Tool bar area in Writer?

I'm running Ubuntu 10.04

I've tried changing it with System>  Preferences>  Appearance to no effect.



Did you try changing the Theme?  That is the only way that I know of. 
You may need to find a theme that has the colors you want to use.


HTH
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[users] Re: User related mailing list

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Jim Parkhurst wrote:

I rely on the questions posted and the responses provided. Maybe not "heavily" 
but as a resource to answer questions I may have (or had). Some questions are out of my 
scope. But the information provided is valuable to me and to those whom I support.

Jim Parkhurst


Hi Jim,

This is the type of information that is needed.  Would using a forum 
work as well?  If not why?


Thanks
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[users] Re: Any Consensus re OO vs LO?

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Dale Erwin wrote:

On 8/23/2011 4:21 PM, John Boyle wrote:

To users list: I have to question the truth of the statement that you
can install BOTH OpenOffice and Libre-Office on the same computer! My
experience has been that Libre-office *AUTOMATICALLY TAKES OVER OPEN
OFFICE, ENTIRELY! Luckily, I had tried to install on my second computer
and was ABLE to stop the installation before it finished. I just so
happen to have KAMI's Oxygen Office with all the bells and whistles,
that Libre Office DOES NOT HAVE, so why bother going BACKWARD???*


I have both installed on my computer. I did have to do some tweaking
after installing LibO so that my MSO files could be opened by MSO by
default. I even went back through the installation procedure to see if I
missed it, but I didn't see any option to keep LibO from taking over the
MSO files.



Have you let the devs know?  Or posted about this on the discuss@ 
mailing list?


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[users] Re: Any Consensus re OO vs LO?

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John Boyle wrote:


To users list: I have to question the truth of the statement that you
can install BOTH OpenOffice and Libre-Office on the same computer! My
experience has been that Libre-office *AUTOMATICALLY TAKES OVER OPEN
OFFICE, ENTIRELY! Luckily, I had tried to install on my second computer
and was ABLE to stop the installation before it finished. I just so
happen to have KAMI's Oxygen Office with all the bells and whistles,
that Libre Office DOES NOT HAVE, so why bother going BACKWARD???*


The first version of LibO that was released did in fact install in the 
OOo location.  The devs were torn apart by the usres for that.  From the 
second or third release that was changed.  If your happy with Oxygen 
Office, that is great.  Others use Symphony.  Others use Neo Office. 
That is one of the great things about Open Source Software and OOo.


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[users] User related mailing list

[RA Brown]

To all Users@ and Discuss@ mailing list subscribers:

There are discussions going on at the ooo-...@incubator.apache.org . 
These discussions relate to where the mailing list are needed are not. 
We are needing feedback so please let the mailing list at Apache know if 
you depend on these list for support.  If not and are willing to use 
forums that is also needs to be known.


An archived copy of the tread starts at:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201108.mbox/%3ccap-ksogauskq+6kchq7oyv-3utjllyzr5xnv53vh+n6y7s9...@mail.gmail.com%3E

You will have to go through the thread to find the messages related to 
the uses@ and discuss@ list.


To subscribe to the list send a message to:

ooo-dev-subscr...@incubator.apache.org

To post a message, if not subscribed it will go to a moderator:

ooo-...@incubator.apache.org

The main web page is at:

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Hope to see you there.

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[users] Re: Any Consensus re OO vs LO?

[RA Brown]

Douglas Hinds wrote:


After I wrote and asked Several Questions, beginning with:

Are OO and LO equivalent?

RA (Andy) Brown responded:


Yes and no.



If not, are there any significant differences?



It would depend on your idea of "significant".  They look different but
on the inside they are mostly the same.  There are some reports that
LibO does not handle files created in OOo but I can not confirm.


Since both follow the same guidelines (Open Code, Multiplatform, M$ File Format
Capability, Community based Mutual Support) and were created by the
same people, imo it would be a shame if there was no collaboration between
the two development teams,&/or if inter-operability issues exist.

Other relevant issues include:

Did MOST of the oo team transfer to lo?


Due to licensing issues very little of the code came from sources out 
side of Sun/Oracle, so none of the core dev left OOo.  The devs that 
started LibO were from the some companies that did the Go-oo fork, 
Novell and RedHat being two of those.



Are some developers working on both teams?


Not that I am aware of.  Due to the license it was hard to get code back 
into the main source.



AFAIK, the transfer of human resources occurred due to doubts some
developers held in relation to Oracle.  Have those doubts proved to be
either grounded or groundless?


Looking back, maybe they had a good reason.  As you may know Oracle 
donated all the OOo code, trademarks to the Apache Software Foundation, 
ASF, to continue development.



Diversity and additional options are great, but these things happen
for a reason.  Some of my OS come with oo and others with lo
installed, and all the computers are multiboot systems.  IMO, any
effort made toward inter-operability would be a good thing - as would
sharing resources (just as most Linux Distros share a common kernel).


Linux also shares the Go-oo, Libo, code.  It has been announced that the 
next major release of all disrtos will come with LibO, which makes sense 
since they did not come with plain OOo anyway.  LibO is not the only or 
first fork of OOo, see [1] for more on that.  You will have to scroll 
down till you see the chart but it is clear.





If so, please define.



Does this list deal with both?



That is a good question, I do not believe that I have seen any questions
here about LibO.


If questions were asked, would answers be given or would the poster be
directed to a lo list or forum?


If I reply it will be with the best answer I can give.  If that is to 
direct to the LibO list, so be it.  If I can give an answer I will.



If not, what's the LO list address?



If you go to http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/ you will fine links to
help.



Lastly, is there any reason NOT to install OO v. 3.3?



No there is not a reason to NOT install OOo v3.3 and LibO v3.3.4 as the
do not conflict so you can see for yourself which works for you.


Both work. But sometimes new version have issues.  I have oo 3.2.1
installed and have downloaded 3.3.  I thought I'd ask before
installing it.


That is true and the reason I said "works for you".  We each have things 
that we use and expect to work a given way.  I have and use both, for 
helping and personal use.



This link to the OpenOffice.org forum maybe of interest.



http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=37028&hilit=compare+ooo+libo#p169887



Copy and paste the full address into your browser if clicking does not work.


I'll check that later today.


HTH
Andy


Thanks for the orientation, Andy.


Your welcome and I hope that you will join us at the Apache [2].

[1] 
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal?action=recall&rev=207


[2] http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

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[users] Re: Any Consensus re OO vs LO?

[RA Brown]

Douglas Hinds wrote:


Several questions:  Are OO and LO equivalent?


Yes and no.


If not, are there any significant differences?


It would depend on your idea of "significant".  They look different but 
on the inside they are mostly the same.  There are some reports that 
LibO does not handle files created in OOo but I can not confirm.



If so, please define.

Does this list deal with both?


That is a good question, I do not believe that I have seen any questions 
here about LibO.



If not, what's the OL list address?


If you go to http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/ you will fine links to 
help.



Lastly, is there any reason NOT to install OO v. 3.3?


No there is not a reason to NOT install OOo v3.3 and LibO v3.3.4 as the 
do not conflict so you can see for yourself which works for you.


This link to the OpenOffice.org forum maybe of interest.

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=37028&hilit=compare+ooo+libo#p169887

Copy and paste the full address into your browser if clicking does not work.

HTH
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[users] Re: Just Me To Use OpenOffice on My Computer !!!!! Not Everyone !!!!!

[RA Brown]

ladypuddin...@aol.com wrote:

I am changing my preference of who can use OpenOffice on My Computer.

My Preference is for "ME" ONLY, to use OpenOffice on My  Computer, "Not
Everyone."

E-mail me back ASAP, confirming that you have received this e-mail&   has
changed My Preference.


_LadyPuddinPie@aol.com_ (mailto:ladypuddin...@aol.com)

PW

Thank you,



First this is a mailing list not a direct email address, please reply as 
such.


Second, are there other accounts on the computer?  If not then there is 
no way to limit the users.


Third, it would be helpful to know the operating system if there are 
more than one account setup for users.


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[users] Re: Catch-22 and Firefox

[RA Brown]

Stan Goodman wrote:

Wanting to regain temporarily more space in the main window of FF for a
screen shot, I closed all the various toobars, unthinkingly including
even the Menu Bar. Without the Menu Bar, of course, I can't choose the
View Menu to turn the toolbars back on.

There has to be a way, however. Will a kind soul please tell me what it
is?


I do not see where this has anything to do with OpenOffice.org but I 
would suggest pressing Alt+V to get the View menu then select as needed.


Andy
Please do not reply direct, use the mailing list address.


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[users] Re: OpenOffice3.3 Download blocked !

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K Chan wrote:


Dear Sir,

I bought a new machine, with Window 7. When downloading Open Office3.3 
(previously OpenOffice 3.0), it was every time automatically diverted to the 
page:

Ooops !
The page you are looking for could not be found.
Try searching for it in the address bar above.


Then, there are a list of other websites not of Open Office origin, asking me 
to update my computer, or fix problems.

Why is it, and how can I download Open Office?

Regards,
K Chan



What is the site name your trying to download from?  If it is not 
www.openoffice.org  then your in the wrong place.  Any variation of this 
can be bad for you.





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[users] Re: Hyperlinks in docs

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Bruce_Martin wrote:

Hi Michael:

This is no surprise. On a PC or in Linux, one would use {ctrl-click} to
do the same, yet for a .PDF generated with the same hyperlinks embedded,
one would merely click.

Howqever I also find often enough that in my Calc workbooks (.ODS
format), the hyperlinks on my summary sheet will jump nicely to the tens
of other sheets without the need for the {ctrl-click}.

It may be that the authors of Writer wanted to leave a simple click open
to other uses, I'm not sure.

Best regards from Canada,

Bruce Martin.


There is a setting under Tools> Options> OpenOffice.org> Security  under 
the Options button that allows you to change to just click on 
hyperlinks.  But it is hard to edit a document when you not click to put 
the cursor where it is needed, in the middle of that hyperlink.


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[users] Re: about openoffice with Ubuntu

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WANG, Xiaoyun wrote:

2011/8/12 Tong WaiWah Nelson:

At a moment I am using Ubuntu, and I wish to ask which version of openoffice
should I download den or rpm??

From
湯偉華
Mr.WAIWAH (NELSON) TONG




You can install OpenOffice or LibreOffice from Ubuntu Software Center
or Synaptic. If you are using latest version of Ubuntu, LibreOffice is
recommended.



Yes he can but there are also reasons to install from the direct site. 
I have both OOo 3.3.0 from the OOo site and LibO 3.4.1 from the LibO 
site as there are features that are not in the Ubuntu versions.


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[users] Fwd: Re: Re: Message distribution : Authorization denied

[RA Brown]

Seen the original message to the wrong list.

J. please use this list.

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [users] Re: Message distribution : Authorization denied
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:15:24 -0700
From: RA Brown 
To: j rigby , us...@extensions.openoffice.org

Hi J,

I am replying back to the list so that others can see the reply, please
also reply to the list as it may help others as well.

We can use you on the Apache list to help with the accessibility of OOo.
 Not all of us are programmers, I am just a plain old user trying to
help out myself.  Durpal is a Content Management System, CMS.  It is the
driving force behind the Extension and Template web space.  The
suggestion to help was not just to you but everyone who wants to see OOo
start growing again.

Andy
Top posting for the op's benefit.

j rigby wrote:

*Hi Andy,
Correct. I haven't been keeping up with developments as I (need to!) use
Dragon voice-2-text to get things done (90 w.p.m. instead of 25) and only
now does Dragon work inside OO.

Unfortunately, I've never even heard of  Durpal and am no programmer!  I'm a
Writer.

Thanks for the response, I'll go register and maybe somewhere down the line,
be able to directly contribute ... textually..  :-)

Jack


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[users] Re: Message distribution : Authorization denied

[RA Brown]

Paul wrote:

I'm guessing that the original poster (jjrig...@gmail.com) has a question
that they haven't been able to get an answer to.

@jjrig...@gmail.com - if you reply (including users@openoffice.org) to this
email explaining the problem I'm sure someone can assist.

/paul

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:49 AM, j rigby  wrote:


*
*
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 05:12, SYMPA  wrote:


Your message for list 'webmast...@openoffice.org' (attached below) was
rejected.

You are not allowed to send this message for the following reason :

  you are not allowed to perform this action.

For further information, please contact webmasters-requ...@openoffice.org







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From: j rigby
To: webmas...@openoffice.org
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 05:12:30 +1000
Subject: long time sub-url access problem
*Hi there,
This is an important image problem for O.S. - OO is sorta the flagship for
public Open Source, hope the idea might help:

COPY OF BBS POST:

uote="acknak"]The entire OOo project is in transition; the extensions site
has been mostly unavailable recently. It may come back, but if you need
something urgently, you may have to go hunting for it on the web.[/quote]

Hi there, acknak,
It's very poor practise for such a simple problem to be allowed to go on
for so long and doesn't look too good for the OO image at all.
I looked for a Webmaster contact and couldn't find it anywhere.
Although it is mainly a volunteer org, it should not be too difficult to
get help on this small re-programming problem.
IDEA:  Someone in authority here could ask for tech help at Oracle itself,
or on the Linux Sites, or even Webmastertalk.

I just hope "transition" doesn't mean dying   :-{
I'll also post this blind to webmas...@openoffice.org ...



It would seem that your not following what is happening with respect to 
OO.o.


The problem with the extension/template web space is not related to the 
move of OOo to the ASF.  The web site was having problems before the 
start of this.  The move has removed Oracle personal from the web site 
management so things are slower.  If anyone wants to help, has 
experience with Durpal, get on the ooo-dev mailing list and raise your 
hand.  There is no Corporation now it is just "us" and we have to do the 
work.


Go to the new web site on Apache and get connected to the mailing list. 
 Now is the time for the community to step up and get things done.


http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

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[users] Re: open power point display in emails

[RA Brown]

stephen smith wrote:

I often get  power point desplay in emails and i cannot run them in open office 
presentation.
can this be preformed . I run MS 7 and windows live mail.

a happy user
n
rightneee


Save the attachment then open with Impress.

Andy

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[users] Re: about openoffice with Ubuntu

[RA Brown]

Tong WaiWah Nelson wrote:


At a moment I am using Ubuntu, and I wish to ask which version of openoffice 
should I download den or rpm??

From
湯偉華

Mr.WAIWAH (NELSON) TONG



Look for the DEB packages.

Please reply to list only.

Andy

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[users] Re:

[RA Brown]

Alliance mechanic wrote:

How do I uninstall that ...ware of yours? It tells me to close it before it
can uninstall itself, but I do not have it open.



It would help if you told us what operating system your using, but I am 
going to take a guess and say some version of Windows.  If so open the 
Program Manager and see if there are any soffice.* programs running.  If 
so End them and then try to uninstall.


HTH
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[users] Re: MS Word Alternative

[RA Brown]

Doug wrote:

On 08/07/2011 04:18 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2011/7/30 paul whitehill:

Hi i wonder if you can help me.

I wonder that too…

the alternative seems to have a charge £1.59 but it says it is free.

What alternative and to what?
OpenOffice.org is free if you download it at
http://www.openoffice.org/. No charge what so ever, as long as you
download it yourself.


Is the open office Writer the same as MS Word ?

No. If it was, it wouldn't be free.


This is the software I want to type up a document, can you help
me ?

Well… download it from http://www.openoffice.org/, install it, run it
and start typing…
Don't forget to use Styles from the beginning. It will save you a lot
of time later.
There is built in help which is sometimes helpful. If not, ask
specific questions here.


Are there any software clashes, Say i want to send a document
attached to my e.mail, will it Open in all systems?

Yes, as long as support for ODF is installed (like OpenOffice.org,
LibreOffice, AbiWord, ODF-plugins for MS Office and so on). If the
receiver doesn't have to edit your document, you can always send it as
a PDF.


Thanks, please answer my questions

Regards,

Paul Whitehill.

What's ODF? My OO/LO/Symnphony wants to save in .odt.
--doug



ODF = Open Document Format = ODT + ODS + ODB + all the other file 
extensions used for OpenOffice.org files.


HTH
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[users] Re: Open Office installation Problem?

[RA Brown]

thomas.gardi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Hello,

I have "Failed" repeatedly to install Open Office 3.3 on my HP dc5100 Desktop, 
with Windows XP Pro.,Pentium 4, 3GHZ, 3GB Memory.

I have tried with and without Norton Anti Virus enabled. Tried Installing as 
downloading and from Install file saved on desktop.

In ever case,I find a Open Office Installation File folder on my Desktop, 
containing 54 MB of files but  I get the attached error message near the end of 
installation?
*
I have successfully installed OpenOffice from the same download source on; 
another Identical HP dc5100 desktop(with same specs) and on a Dell D620 and IBM 
T40 237314U laptops. All have Windows XP Pro OS?

Can anyone suggest a solution to my "Failed Installation"?

I will appreciate any available help

Thomas Gardiner




Does the computer that OOo installed on still have the directory that 
was created when it was installed?  If so copy the whole directory to a 
CD/DVD or a thumb drive and install from there.


HTH
Andy

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[users] Re: Open Office installation Problem?

[RA Brown]

David Barlow wrote:

I am still finding it impossible to download updates for O O 3.3 (which
it tells me are ready to download!) The program itself, however, is
working fine after ignoring the fact that I had it on my lap top and
just downloading it again "from scratch" off the download site. I am not
going to bother trying for any more updates at this stage, as it is
operating fine as is. Weird though!


Dave Barlow N.Z.


Dave,

The "update" feature in OOo is badly broken.  I disable it in Tools> 
Options> OpenOfffice.org> Online Update.  It seems to be a hangover from 
the commercial version that did have updates to it.


Andy


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From: "Bob Long" 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:15 PM
To: 
Subject: [users] Re: Open Office installation Problem?


thomas.gardi...@sbcglobal.net wrote,


Hello,
I have "Failed" repeatedly to install Open Office 3.3 on my HP dc5100
Desktop, with Windows XP Pro.,Pentium 4, 3GHZ, 3GB Memory.
I have tried with and without Norton Anti Virus enabled. Tried
Installing as downloading and from Install file saved on desktop.
In ever case,I find a Open Office Installation File folder on my
Desktop, containing 54 MB of files but I get the attached error message
near the end of installation?
*
I have successfully installed OpenOffice from the same download source
on; another Identical HP dc5100 desktop(with same specs) and on a Dell
D620 and IBM T40 237314U laptops. All have Windows XP Pro OS?
Can anyone suggest a solution to my "Failed Installation"?
I will appreciate any available help
Thomas Gardiner


How large is the downloaded file, and what is its name?

I thought the "Open Office Installation File folder on the Desktop"
contained something like 129MB of files, one of which is
openofficeorg1.cab of 129MB. Do you have that file?

Is there plenty of spare room on the hard drive?

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[users] Re: Unable to download .msi for OO 3.3

[RA Brown]

Bruce Barkstrom wrote:

We are unable to download and use OO 3.3 because the installation
program wants us to find the .msi file - and it's not visible in the .exe
file.  Also - while a long time user of OO, several of our installations
are completely disconnected from the network.  The installation program
you're supplying just doesn't work in those situations.

We would like to decipher .docx files, but if we can't run the program,
we can't tell whether OO will do the job.  Furthermore, since we also
don't have the .msi file for OO 2.0, we can't delete the previous version
of the software either.

Bruce R. Barkstrom


First OOo is not good with docx files.

Second you should be able to download the file to one computer and run 
the program.  The first thing it does is extract the files from the 
archive the runs the install.  You can cancel the install then copy the 
directory that was created to a CD/DVD or thumbdrive and run the install 
program from there.


You can use Revouninstaller, [1] below, to remove the older version.

[1] http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

Also sorry for the delay in replying but this just came through the 
mailing list.


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[users] Re: set cell's value?

[RA Brown]

James wrote:
> I want to put an 'x' in Calc cells based on whether another cell's date
> (totalincoming) is larger than a different cell's value.
> I started this macro but is there an easier way?
> How do I set a cell's value?
> 
> 
> REM  *  BASIC  *
> 
> ' put an 'x' in cells where totalincoming (06:41:45) is greater or equal
> to flatrateincoming (06:36)
> Sub Main( totalincoming As Date, flatrateincoming as Date )
> Option Explicit
> dim cellcontents as string
> 
> If totalincoming >= flatrateincoming Then
> cellcontents = "x"
> End If
> 
> ' set current cell's value
> 
> End Sub

Being a bit nit-picky here.  This that a date or time?  There is a
difference.

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[users] Re: Problem opening Excel file with calc

[RA Brown]

Hermann Vogelstein wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I tried several times to open an Excel file in Oo Calc, which I have 
> previously edited in Calc (most recently a week ago) and saved in its 
> original XLS format.  I keep getting the message : "General Error.  General 
> Input/Output error."
> 
> This has never happened before.  How can I open the file with Calc?
> 
>   What could have caused the problem?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can offer.
> 
> Hermann

Hi Hermann,

Have you tried reseting your user profile?  See
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=12426#p58403
for details.  It does not cure all problems but sudden changes in
behavior have been found to be caused by a corrupted user profile.

HTH
Andy
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[users] Re: how does the mail list work?

[RA Brown]

Glen Robinson wrote:
> Why did this bounce back to me?  Does every one on the list get every inquiry?
> 

Yes they do.  That is the way it works.

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[users] Re: Can OOo open an .xml file?

[RA Brown]

John Jason Jordan wrote:
> I need an article that was published in volume five of a five volume set
> "The Blackwell companion to syntax." I had to order the book through
> interlibrary loan, and it has arrived. Imagine my surprise to discover
> that, instead of receiving volume five, I received a CD.
> 
> Nautilus opened the CD just fine on my Fedora 14 x86_64 computer. And
> the article I need is right there in the file browser window. However,
> it is titled "Chapter 75 - Verb particle constructions.xml."
> 
> Double-clicking on it made Fedora try to open it in Gedit. That was not
> a good choice. Then I dimly recalled that OOo uses xml, so I tried
> opening it in Writer. Writer opened it, but all I got was pages and
> pages of what looks like code, interspersed with what appears to be the
> text of the article. It's there, but an unreadable mess.
> 
> Google informs me that xml is Microsoft's new open document format. OK,
> I don't have MS Office, but back I go to OOo for further checking. It
> turns out that in OOo (3.3, from OOo, not Fedora repos) I can do File >
> Open New > XML document. However, there appears no way to open an
> existing xml file. 
> 
> So now I'm all gestumped. 
> 
> I could always schlep the CD back to the university, open it on a
> university computer that has MS Office, and save as something else. But
> surely I won't have to do that. 
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Can OOo "import" the file so it is
> readable?

Do you have access to Kword?  Just tried and it views an xml file
without the coding that you describe.  I am looking to install some
other xml editors and see what they do.

Using Ubuntu 11.4

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[users] Re: removing grid lines

[RA Brown]

Spencer wrote:
> What does it mean, "the best can be found for free at [1]"?
> Where is [1]?
> Thanks
> 
> On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 21:57 -0700, RA Brown wrote:
>> Spencer wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I was using a tutorial to teach myself
>>> how to create forms. When i was finish
>>> with the tutorial i removed all the work.
>>> When i started a new text document, the grid
>>> lines where in the document. I tried page default,
>>> but that did not help.Now when I start writer
>>> i get a grid. How do I remove the grid. I'm using
>>> OO 3.2 on ubuntu 10.04. Side note - can anyone recommend
>>> a good book on writer. I went to Barns & Nobles this
>>> week to order a book and was surprise to find
>>> that all the books they had where out of print.
>>> I want to make sure that it will cover the material
>>> as it relates to release 3.2.
>>> Thanks 
>>
>> It would seem that when your were doing your forms you turned on the
>> girds.  If the Form Design toolbar is not showing at the bottom of the
>> Writer window activate it then look for the Display Gird icon, it will
>> show up when hovered on.  Click it to turn off the grid.
>>
>> As for a book, the best can be found for free at [1], just look for the
>> 3.2 version.  If your wanting to buy a book then you maybe out of luck
>> for v3.2.
>>
>> HTH
>> Andy

Sorry for that I was supposed to provide a link.  The link is.

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/

Andy

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[users] Re: removing grid lines

[RA Brown]

Spencer wrote:
> Hi,
> I was using a tutorial to teach myself
> how to create forms. When i was finish
> with the tutorial i removed all the work.
> When i started a new text document, the grid
> lines where in the document. I tried page default,
> but that did not help.Now when I start writer
> i get a grid. How do I remove the grid. I'm using
> OO 3.2 on ubuntu 10.04. Side note - can anyone recommend
> a good book on writer. I went to Barns & Nobles this
> week to order a book and was surprise to find
> that all the books they had where out of print.
> I want to make sure that it will cover the material
> as it relates to release 3.2.
> Thanks 

It would seem that when your were doing your forms you turned on the
girds.  If the Form Design toolbar is not showing at the bottom of the
Writer window activate it then look for the Display Gird icon, it will
show up when hovered on.  Click it to turn off the grid.

As for a book, the best can be found for free at [1], just look for the
3.2 version.  If your wanting to buy a book then you maybe out of luck
for v3.2.

HTH
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[users] Re: FW: [discuss] Open Office 2011

[RA Brown]

Ken, Please reply to the mailing list only.

Ken Shea wrote:
> Someone,
> 
> I need someone to help in removing the download of Open Office from my 
> computer. This is not what I was looking for when I downloaded. Please help 
> and have this reversed so that I can remove it from my hard drive. Thanks.
> 

Did you download from OpenOffice.org , not the dot org?  If not then we
can not help.  The only suggestion, if your using Windows it to use the
Add./ Remove programs feature to remove the program.

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[users] Re: Windows 64 bit version?

[RA Brown]

James Knott wrote:
> RA Brown wrote:
>> James Knott wrote:
>>   
>>> A friend recently bought a new computer and she'll be wanting me to
>>> install OpenOffice (and some other apps) on it.  The computer came with
>>> 64 bit Windows 7.  Is there a 64 bit Windows version of OOo available?
>>> I've been running the 64 bit Linux version for years.
>>>
>>>  
>> No there is not, at this time, a Windows 64 bit version.  Make sure that
>> they load the 32 bit Java version as well.
>>
>>
> Will that cause issues with 64 bit apps that also use Java?
> 
> Also, why so tardy with the 64 bit version?  64 bit CPUs have been
> around for years (I got my 1st 5 years ago) and 64 bit Windows is now
> the norm.
> 

I am not sure why but can guess that since this is open source
volunteers that there is no developers interested in doing the work.  I
am sure it can get quite expensive to buy the tools needed to work on 64
bit programs.

As for Java, both 32 and 64 bit can and should be installed.  32 bit
programs are stored in a special directory so they do not conflict with
64 bit programs.

HTH
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[users] Re: Windows 64 bit version?

[RA Brown]

James Knott wrote:
> A friend recently bought a new computer and she'll be wanting me to
> install OpenOffice (and some other apps) on it.  The computer came with
> 64 bit Windows 7.  Is there a 64 bit Windows version of OOo available? 
> I've been running the 64 bit Linux version for years.
> 

No there is not, at this time, a Windows 64 bit version.  Make sure that
they load the 32 bit Java version as well.

HTH
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[users] Re: Templates

[RA Brown]

David Howells wrote:

Hello,

Would you please advise me on downloading the best Open Office templates
for writing a book? I could not find one in my searches.

David


The "best" would be very subjective.  I take it that you have looked 
through the template site @ http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ . 
 What publisher are you planning to use?  There are templates on the 
site for Lulu.com's most use formats.  If you can not find one that fits 
your needs you will have to make your own.  Find any references you can 
for the publisher, there should be a link on their site, and work from 
that.  If you would like some assistance send me note off list and we 
can work on it.



Andy

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[users] Re: Still active?

[RA Brown]

Douglas Hinds wrote:



Is LibreOffice the one to go to, now?:-\
--


The latest versions of Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora and OpenSuse (but
not Debian) include Libre Office. Apparently the OO developers lost
confidence with Oracle and changed over.



Those were already working of GO-oo and not OOo.  Most of the Linux 
distros have been shipping the GO-oo fork for years.  When LibO forked 
it was mostly a renaming of GO-oo.  In fact the distros did their own 
tweaking of GO-oo, which they still do with LibO.  If you watch the User 
mailing list you will see that there are slight differences in each version.


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[users] Re: corrupted file? recovered loop

[RA Brown]

ignasi gispert wrote:

Dear All,
Just when I was going to print out attached file, opennoffice just made
a "loop" by "recovering" "recovery ok" & "recovery failed" and appear
again the "recovering", etc etc.
File can be viewed for few seconds and the "loop problem" starts again.
Have 3.2 openoffice version.
Windows XP.
Any idea?
Thanks for your help!
Rgds
ignasi


I cannot say what the problem is, but can confirm that it will not 
remain open to work on.  Tried here Under Ubuntu 11.04 with OOo 3.4dev, 
and LibO 3.4 beta.


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[users] Re: OOSVN extension replacement

[RA Brown]

Peter Fodrek wrote:

Dear OpenOffice Experts,

I would ask you if there is an replacement for OOSVN extension which
does not work, yet
http://sourceforge.net/projects/oosvn/

Thank you for your answer

I look forward hearing from you

Yours fiathfully


Peter Fodrek



No experts here, only fellow users.  As for the extension, I have not 
seen anything.  Maybe others will have more information.  Have you tried 
contacting the developers to see what they have to say?


Please reply to the mailing list only.

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[users] Re: Pasting numbers in Calc

[RA Brown]

Eustace wrote:

When copying from

http://www.invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html

the 4 columns and pasting them in Calc as Unformatted text separated by
Tab, the first column of numbers pastes with some code in the beginning,
so I have to double-click in each cell, then something that resembles a
' (single quote) appears in front of the number, and delete it.

If I try to copy and paste these ' in the search box to have it replaced
with nothing it does not find them.

How can I easily change the column to simple numbers?

emf



Why not just select the "Detect special numbers" box and let Calc do its 
job?



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[users] Re: Still active?

[RA Brown]

John Boyle wrote:


To Users: Can anyone tell me what is going on? Is OOo going the way of
WordPerfect or other software that started to be ignored and left by the
wayside! Can someone tell me if Oracle is trying to destroy or, at
least, nullify OOo? Is LibreOffice the one to go to, now?:-\


At this point all that has happened is that Oracle has offer to donate 
the OOo code/trademarks to the Apache Software Foundation.  On the ASF 
mailing list, archive at 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/ , they are 
discussing if OOo can build a community to keep the project alive.  If 
they decide to support the project, they vote later this week, then a 
new project will be started on the ASF.


If you feel that OOo should continue then you can help support it by 
joining the mailing list above or add your name as an initial committer 
on the wiki page at  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal 
.  Most of those supporting TDF are giving reasons that it should not 
happen, I do not understand why.


HTH
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[users] Re: History manager extension

[RA Brown]

e-letter wrote:

Does anyone have the history manager extension, to use with LO? The
extensions web site seems to have been disabled


Does your email account allow attachments?  If so I can send you a copy 
or send a link to a copy if not.


Andy
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[users] Re: File > New > Text Document not using default template

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John Jason Jordan wrote:

OOo 3.3.0 from OOo on Fedora 14, x86_64. This is not the OOo from the
Fedora repositories.

Every time I open a new document with File>  New>  Text Document I have
to go into the Styles menu and change the line spacing from Single to
Fixed, 14 pt. The Default style in Default.ott is set to Fixed, 14 pt,
so apparently OOo is not using Default.ott for the default template.

Going into File>  Templates>  Edit shows the Default.ott template as
located in ~/.openoffice.org/3/user/template. I can't find any other
Default template. In Tools>  Options>  Paths the path for templates is
~/.openoffice.org/3/user/template.

However, when I go into File>  New>  Templates and Documents I get a
dialog box with icons on the left for New Document, Templates, My
Documents, and Samples. The Default.ott template is in Templates. But
in New Document there is a Text Document template. Opening a new file
with that template gives me the incorrect style information. So
apparently this is the template that is being used for File>  New>  Text
Document.

Unfortunately, I can't find a way to edit the Text Document template.
The Edit button is grayed out.

Surely there is a way to change the default style for the new document
template. Can someone tell me how?


If you open the "Default" template that is shown in the Templates 
directory, does it have the settings you wish?  If so then from a blank 
document do File> Templates> Organize .  In the pop-up window on the 
left site select the Default template.  On the right side use the 
Command button then select "Set as default template".  Just having the 
template named "Default" does not make it the default that is used.


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[users] Re: BrOffice Writer

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Caio Cesar de Foggi wrote:

Eu estou tendo um problema com o writer em relaçao a quando uso uma
tabela nele .

Aqui onde eu trabalho eu uso uns codigos que as vezes são descritos
assim " 1.2.3" ex. Só que qnd vou enserir isso em uma tabela e vou mudar
para outra linha
o que era "1.2.3" passa a ser "01/02/03" como se eu tivesse colocando
uma data . Já tentei de tudo só que continua a mesma coisa . Essa
combinação de numeros só fica como eu quero quando não é possivel uma
nada ex : "33.55.12"

Seria alguma configuraçao que eu ainda nao achei ???

Obrigado desde Já

Caio Cesar de Foggi
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This is an English only list.  We can try to help but need to be able to 
understand what your saying.



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[users] Re: how do I unsubscribe?

[RA Brown]

. wrote:

I've been trying to figure out how to unsubscribe.

I've got the sympa help commands but the UNSubscribe command is
meaningless to me.

Anyone know how to unsubscribe?



Go to  http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html  scroll down till you 
see the Users@openoffice.org  listing.  To the right is a link to 
unsubscribe.  You email client will open with a blank message.  Hit the 
send button.   You will received a confirmation message, hit the reply 
button then the send button.  You will receive a "Good by" message and 
your done.


Andy
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[users] Re: Automatic URL recognition

[RA Brown]

John Jason Jordan wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 18:38:23 +0100
Brian Barker  dijo:


At 10:22 15/05/2011 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:

OOo 3.3.0 on Fedora 14, x86_64, from OOo, not from repositories.

In Tools>  AutoCorrect>  Options I have unchecked URL Recognition,
yet Writer still makes an URL underlined and clickable. Is there
something else that I need to uncheck somewhere?


There are two boxes against URL Recognition, one for typing and the
other for modifying.  Have you unticked both - or the appropriate one
for your purposes?


Yes, both boxes are unchecked.

It does not underline and make clickable a link that I type. But if
there is a link in text copied and pasted into the Writer document it
still underlines it and makes it clickable. This happens even if I
paste special. The only way to get rid of it is to take the time to go
to Format>  Default Formatting. Even just double-clicking on the
paragraph style in the Styles toolbar does not change it; I have to go
to Format>  Default Formatting to get rid of it. It is time-consuming
and annoying, especially considering that I use Writer only for writing
academic papers that will be printed on paper. As far as I know there
is no way to click on a paper document, yet the underlining and colored
text still appear on the paper.


I think you will find that what your looking for by looking at the 
Character styles for Internet Link.  That controls the color and 
underline, which is what is showing up when printed.  It will still be 
clickable in Writer bu will not show as a link.


Andy
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[users] Re: Where are my dictionary additions?

[RA Brown]

John Jason Jordan wrote:

I have used OOo for many years, currently 3.3.0 (from OOo) on Fedora
14, x86_64. Over the years I have added a lot of technical terms of my
field, as well as names of people who I often cite.

During a recent upgrade from 3.2.1 it became necessary to abandon my
old ~/.openoffice.org folder and let OOo create a new one. (The old
folder is intact, just renamed.) I successfully copied years of
Autocorrect entries to the new folder, as well as numerous other
settings. But my spell checker now flags things that I know I added to
my custom dictionary settings.

Where are my dictionary additions and how can I restore them?


Look in the ~/.openoffice.org/3/user/wordbook .

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[users] Re: Potential Problems with Large Documents?

[RA Brown]

Adam wrote:

I've been reading with interest the thread on "Crisis-Thesis Corrupted"
and just wondered, I have a document that is now 5Mb in size, 100 A4
pages and contains close to 40 images that is about 2 days away from
being completedis there any physical document size constraint or
potential problems with large documents that I should be aware of? Or
are there any precautions that can be recommended. I do regular backups
but would just die if anything should happen to prevent me from
successfully completing this document.

Thanks for nay feedback on this...

--
Adam (wanting to tread cautiously)



You say you "do regular backups", where are the backups?  If you do not 
have at least one external backup then you could be in trouble.  I am 
not sure that there is a 'limit' on size.


You can find an online service like dropbox.com that allows free storage.


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[users] Re: Problem with Cross-Reference

[RA Brown]

Adam wrote:



On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:53 PM, RA Brown mailto:rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net>> wrote:

Adam wrote:

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:55 AM, RA Brown
mailto:rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net>

Are you by chance saving to .doc format?


Yes is that a problem :(

I need to save it in.doc format as my firm uses MS Word

Adam



Yes, it can be very much of a problem.  The MS formats were closed
and had to be reversed engineered to get what is available.  The
ability to create MS formats is better in OOo then MS's ability to
create ODF formats.  You should also ways save in the native ODF
format and only save as MS format just to send a copy to someone else.

If you really need 100% compatibility then you really need MSO.

** Please reply to the mailing list, to keep the information
available for others **



So just to clarify, if I save in native ODF format and only save as MS
format just to send a copy to someone else, when I do send it to others
they will see the correct cross-references! Appreciate if you could
confirm this otherwise I may end up in a real mess.

Thanks

Adam


The only way to verify that is to test it, on each file.  Some of the 
formating will 'stick' others will not.  There are file viewers for MS 
formated documents from MS.  If your running a version of Windows you 
can use those to see if the documents come out the way you want.



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[users] Re: Problem with Cross-Reference

[RA Brown]

Adam wrote:


On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:55 AM, RA Brown 


Yes, it can be very much of a problem.  The MS formats were closed and 
had to be reversed engineered to get what is available.  The ability to 
create MS formats is better in OOo then MS's ability to create ODF 
formats.  You should also ways save in the native ODF format and only 
save as MS format just to send a copy to someone else.


If you really need 100% compatibility then you really need MSO.

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[users] Re: Problem with Cross-Reference

[RA Brown]

Adam wrote:

Hi All

I'm having a problem with cross-references. I have a document with all
paragraphs numbered and am using cross-references within the text to
refer to various paragraphs as in the following example:

(see paragraph 27 above)

What I am finding is that while working with the document all the
cross-references are fine but after I close the document and say come
back to it the next day the cross-references appear as a 1 character
wide, grey vertical rectangle [] so the above example would appear as
follows:

(see paragraph [] above)

Which when I hover the mouse pointer over the [] it does show that the
correct cross-reference is there and if elected will go to the right
referenced paragraph however the document does not show the number
paragraph being referred to so for example if the document is pre-viewed
or printed the above example is shown as:

(see paragraph  above)

and this is the case with all cross-references in the document :(

Appreciate the earliest help with this problem

--
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Are you by chance saving to .doc format?

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[users] Re: Crisis-Thesis Corrupted

[RA Brown]

Kara Samantha Mcdermott wrote:

Alright. My College Thesis has been "corrupted." I am not fooling around
here. My college education is at stake, and I am unamused, I have my
document, and it is is bringing up the "ASCII" shenanigans. It has been
corrupted- alright. I need it to be fixed. My thesis is due, Friday.
I have many people working on fixing it, to no avail. OpenOffice has
ruined my college education.
It is corrupted, without fixing. The best that anyone can do is pull up
an old, seriously un-revised copy from months ago. I have a few issues.
A. Why did this happen?
B. Why can't I pull up an old copy? I saved hundreds of times, today alone.
C. I will not graduate now, because I will not be able to hand this in.
There is no fixing this. No apology will be good enough.

Kara McDermott


You have already had answers to this on the OOoForum [1].

[1] http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=123234&highlight=

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[users] Re: read only

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Billy Gilpin wrote:

Help! I have been using OOo2 (something) and had a multipage document
that I edited often, added to often, shifted content from page to page, etc.
After I ungraded to OOo3 (something) that document became "read only".
And that is exactly what it is! Now, I can do _nothing_ but read it.

Incidentally, when I check the file's "attributes" the "read only" is
NOT checked.

How can I restore the document to an editable form?

Thanks, Bill Gilpin


With OOo closed down, check the directory where the file is stored for a 
hidden file that starts with .~lock. .  This is a file that prevents 
more than one copy being opened for editing.  Delete the file and you 
should be good to go.


The file maybe left behind if OOo does close down properly, ie a crash.

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[users] Re: Document Printer settings ignored

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Girvin R. Herr wrote:

Hello all,
I just upgraded OO.o from 2.4.1 to 3.3.0, running Slackware Linux 12.2
(k2.6.27).

I discovered a problem with printing that seems inconsistent to me. In
2.4.1, when I set the document "file" -> "Printer Settings" to
single-sided and saved that document, those printer settings were
restored when I opened the document again. Now, with 3.3.0, it seems
when I open the document, the document's printer settings are ignored
and the current default printer settings, which are set to use "duplex"
(2-sided) printing are used. This requires me to change the printer
settings each time I open the document and print single-sided. The
printer settings appear to be "sticky" as long as the document is kept
open, but not upon re-opening.

I looked through the "options" menus and the print dialog but did not
find an option to use the document settings over the defaults. Is there
some new setting I am missing to allow OO.o to use the document printer
settings as in 2.4.1?

Thanks in advance.
Girvin



Have you checked the Tools> Options> Load/Save> General to see if the 
"Load printer settings with Document is checked?


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[users] Re: [SPAM] Install OpenOffice.org CD?

[RA Brown]

atoet indria wrote:

Could I Install OpenOffice.org on UBUNTU 10.10 using OpenOffice.org CD
and how do that?

Thank You



First you have to make sure that they CD contains the DEB package for 
you system, x86 or 64.  If you do not know how to use the command line 
from a terminal then you may more need help.


Using the archive manager extract the archive (this has .tar.gz as an 
extension) to a location in your home directory, keeping the path short 
makes it easier to do.


Open a terminal and cd to the into the directory created and then to the 
DEB directory.  On the command line type  sudo dpkg -i *.deb  .  You 
will be ask for your password, enter it, the packages will be installed. 
 Once that is done cd  into the  desktop-integration  directory and run 
the sudo command above again, this adds the links needed to the 
Applications> Office menu.


Close the terminal.  Click on Applications> Office and select the app 
that you wish to use.  The first time you will get the standard setup 
and registration  options.


HTH
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[users] Re: saving in RTF

[RA Brown]

Bob Long wrote:

RA Brown wrote,

[..]


DOC and RTF ar both MS owned closed formats. OOo and LibO have what
limited conversion they have from reverse engineering files. It is not
and can not 100% compatible. Someone at MS leaked the format for DOC but
anyone making a 100% compatible program would be sued. MS forces
incompatibility to create vendor lock-in. Do a web search for ODF vs DOC
and read up on some of the background for ODF.

Andy


I'm no fan of DOC format, but the specifications are published:

http://www.microsoft.com/interop/docs/officebinaryformats.mspx

If those specifications are understandable and correct, then I'd guess
that 100% compatibility should be possible.



_If_ is the key word here.  Also they are owned by MS so anyone that did 
produce a 100% compatible program would stand the chance of being sued. 
 Also why do you thing MS dropped support for some older formats with 
SP3 to Word XP?


Andy
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[users] Re: Still active? -- Then I have a question about "toggling between attributes.

[RA Brown]

Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

THIS may be my chance! Please bear with me ...

Good evening
I used to have a "highlighting function" assigned to certain hot keys
using MS Word and Wordperfect. With OpenOffice I could not figure out
how make that work (and so far nobody on the mailing list could tell
either although I have asked several times ...), so I created a macro.
In LO I found, that you CAN assign a function that way, but it does not
do yet what I want to do: for example assign upper or lower case -->
Tools - Customize - Keyboard - Format - *** some attribute ***.
You can do THAT. But ...It switches either to lower or to upper case,
but does not TOGGLE between those two states. You need to assign
"lowercase" (or initial caps for example) to a different shortcut.
(I hate MS Word, but at least it gives you the toggle between these
attributes - which is the convenience word processor users (like me) are
looking for.)
Since I have asked similar questions several times already (that was
about highlighting) but NEVER got any answer, I assume that this is
either technically not possible - or nobody knows the answer.
The stupid thing is, LO (or OO which I used before = exact same
behavior), comes with a DEFAULT function of TOGGLING between superscript
(or subscript) and normal script.: Ctrl+Shift+P.
If this function **IS** available for superscript (for example), I
cannot understand why this is NOT available for attributes like bold,
highlight, upper case etc. Is there any essential difference between one
font attribute and another???

With all due respect, but I think this is a really stupid/annoying behavior.

If there IS a solotion to this problem I would really like to know!
Thank you.
Thomas



In my last message I thought you were referring to OOo.  For LibO you 
will need to go through their web site.


Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Andy
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[users] Re: Still active? -- Then I have a question about "toggling between attributes.

[RA Brown]

Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

THIS may be my chance! Please bear with me ...

Good evening
I used to have a "highlighting function" assigned to certain hot keys
using MS Word and Wordperfect. With OpenOffice I could not figure out
how make that work (and so far nobody on the mailing list could tell
either although I have asked several times ...), so I created a macro.
In LO I found, that you CAN assign a function that way, but it does not
do yet what I want to do: for example assign upper or lower case -->
Tools - Customize - Keyboard - Format - *** some attribute ***.
You can do THAT. But ...It switches either to lower or to upper case,
but does not TOGGLE between those two states. You need to assign
"lowercase" (or initial caps for example) to a different shortcut.
(I hate MS Word, but at least it gives you the toggle between these
attributes - which is the convenience word processor users (like me) are
looking for.)
Since I have asked similar questions several times already (that was
about highlighting) but NEVER got any answer, I assume that this is
either technically not possible - or nobody knows the answer.
The stupid thing is, LO (or OO which I used before = exact same
behavior), comes with a DEFAULT function of TOGGLING between superscript
(or subscript) and normal script.: Ctrl+Shift+P.
If this function **IS** available for superscript (for example), I
cannot understand why this is NOT available for attributes like bold,
highlight, upper case etc. Is there any essential difference between one
font attribute and another???

With all due respect, but I think this is a really stupid/annoying behavior.

If there IS a solotion to this problem I would really like to know!
Thank you.
Thomas


Hi Thomas,

The only thing I can suggest it to file a bug report/ feature request on 
the bug tracker.  To get started go to 
http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/pre_submission.html .  You will 
need to register if you have not done so to file the report.


Andy

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[users] Re: Still active?

[RA Brown]

Vic Dura wrote:

Is this list server still active?


It is still running, just few questions coming in.

Andy
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[users] Re: saving in RTF

[RA Brown]

Stephen Throop wrote:



Wow! I used Stuffit Expander to make a folder of an ODT document. Now I
see why it takes so long to open or save with OO.


This is one thing that, it seems, people forget.  It takes time to 
compress and then store the data.



I believe I've read that Wordperfect brought out DOC. Then MS changed it.


It could well be.  But from what I have seen MS is the one that owns it now.


With open source ODF, maybe I'm not running the risk I ran with MS Word.
Thanks, Andy.


There are two reasons to use the ODF standard.  The first you see, if 
nothing else you can extract the content and use it in a text editor. 
The second is that you are not required to use one program to access the 
full document.


Any time,
Andy
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[users] Re: saving in RTF

[RA Brown]

Stephen Throop wrote:


On Apr 19, 2011, at 2:38 PM, RA Brown wrote:


Stephen Throop wrote:

I have a Mac PPC. If I use OO Writer to type a document and save it as
RTF, it will open fine. If I use OO Writer to open an RTF created with
another app, then save as RTF, keystrokes and words will be missing,
seemingly at random.

The same problem occurs if I copy and paste text to OO Writer, than save
as RTF. If I save as ODT, nothing will be missing. If I open the ODT,
whose text was originally created with another app, and save a copy as
RTF, keystrokes and words will be missing.

RTF can be used to email a document to someone who may not be able to
open ODT. Why is OO Writer not properly making RTF of text not
originally typed with OO Writer?



Stephen,

The support for RTF in LibO and OOo is very poor. You would be better
off using DOC (97/2000/XP) or if they receiver does not need to edit
the file as PDF.

Andy
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Thank you, Andy! How about TXT? At a glance, it seems reliable.


Plain text is the lowest common form.  There is no formatting or 
graphics so should work across the board.



I'm interested not only in a universal format for email but in making
archives I can open in fifteen years if I don't have OO. (I've had a bad
experience in the past.)


This is why the ODF formats were created.  The total file is an archive 
created using ZIP.  The contents of the archive as text files, with XML 
tags so that a program like OOo can display it with formatting and 
graphics.  Now the graphics, a binary file, are stored in a standard 
format that most graphic programs can display.



I don't know much about DOC. I've read that it was originally like TXT,
but MS expanded it. If OO can save things like columns and footnotes in
DOC, that sounds like my best bet for archives.


DOC and RTF ar both MS owned closed formats.  OOo and LibO have what 
limited conversion they have from reverse engineering files.  It is not 
and can not 100% compatible.  Someone at MS leaked the format for DOC 
but anyone making a 100% compatible program would be sued.  MS forces 
incompatibility to create vendor lock-in.  Do a web search for ODF vs 
DOC and read up on some of the background for ODF.


Andy
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[users] Re: saving in RTF

[RA Brown]

Stephen Throop wrote:

I have a Mac PPC. If I use OO Writer to type a document and save it as
RTF, it will open fine. If I use OO Writer to open an RTF created with
another app, then save as RTF, keystrokes and words will be missing,
seemingly at random.

The same problem occurs if I copy and paste text to OO Writer, than save
as RTF. If I save as ODT, nothing will be missing. If I open the ODT,
whose text was originally created with another app, and save a copy as
RTF, keystrokes and words will be missing.

RTF can be used to email a document to someone who may not be able to
open ODT. Why is OO Writer not properly making RTF of text not
originally typed with OO Writer?



Stephen,

The support for RTF in LibO and OOo is very poor.  You would be better 
off using DOC (97/2000/XP) or if they receiver does not need to edit the 
file as PDF.


Andy
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[users] Re: Need magic incantation to connect to mysql.

[RA Brown]

Pierre wrote:

On 16/04/11 09:45, RA Brown wrote:



No magic needed. Install the extension at
http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/




??? OK, I know I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I don't see
any mention of "extension" on that page. All I see is requests for
donations and invitations to joining yet more lists and dicussions to
help me complete my madness.

Anyway, it probably doesn't matter anymore. All I wanted to do is have a
pretty report from some mysql data. In the end MS Office on a borrowed
Win7 PC did that easily and quickly. There's a lesson there somewhere...


Cheers


I am very sorry for that, seems I pasted info for another message.

The correct link is 
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/mysql_connector .


HTH



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[users] Re: Need magic incantation to connect to mysql.

[RA Brown]

Pierre wrote:

Clearly there is no easy way to connect OpenOffice base (Ubuntu) to a
mysql database. I have been stuffing about for days and am about to give
up.

The direct connector does not work, right? I mean, I KNOW I am entering
the right parameters but all I get is "The Connection Could not be
established"

I then spent the next 10 hours reading up on JDBC. AFAIK everything I
need including the appropriate connector is installed. All I get is
"Invalid Driver Class". So why does OOo give me a default value when it
is invalid. WHat is a "Valid Driver" class? The wiki and help file are
no help.

Given that in another office suite it takes seconds to connect to almost
any database, shouldn't we be concerned that the OOo approach to db
connectivity remains so counter intuitive, arcane and archaic?

Maybe I should have posted this in disc...@openoffice.org?

Anyway, back to Windows and MS Office so I can actually get on with
it... 



No magic needed.  Install the extension at 
http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/


HTH

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[users] Re: Works Calendar

[RA Brown]

I am guessing that the poster is not subscribed to list so replying 
direct as well.


kathe...@gmail.com wrote:

Hia

I am retired and do not use the 'office' programs, seems for my needs email is 
sufficient along with spread sheets. A friend needed a calendar and scheduling. 
 Told her I'd make one using a database program.
After opening MS Works I saw their calendar program, everything she needed.
Now the program.
She does not have MSWorks. I figured OpenOffice should have a few little 
starter templates also.If memory does not fail, I thought Google started 
OpenOffice, if msworks can create their little calendar/appointment program,
THEN GOOGLE should be able to 'easily' make a much better one.
Guess you figured out I am not a ms fan.
Searched calendar in help,index there was no calendar listing.

Please tell me what Google programs are available that would show a month at a 
time with the doctor's appointments listed on the daily square with the time, 
address, phone number, etc.   My friend is responsible for the scheduling of 
Dr. appointments and tests for the bus driver, at this small assisted living 
facility.

Thank you
Kathe Johansson



Hi Kathe,

***  Please do _not_ reply directly but to the mailing list. ***
I am not sure where you get the idea that OpenOffice.org is part 
of/started by Google. There is no relationship between the two. 
OpenOffice.org was started by Sun Micro Systems in 2000, based on code 
it bought from Star Systems call Star Office.


If you what Google applications goto http://www.google.com/apps/ .  As 
for OpenOffice.org there are calendar templates available for both 
Writer and Calc, http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ .  But is 
all that is needed is a calendar the OpenOffice.org is way over kill as 
it is a complete office suite.  A better be would be option would be 
Sunbird, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ , by Mozilla.  It is 
a stand alone program and will do what is needed.


Hope this helps.
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[users] Re: Fwd: extra cells and other distortions

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Paul wrote:

Snipped what Paul wrote.


-- Forwarded message --
From: *Doug* mailto:dmcgarr...@optonline.net>>
Date: Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:53 PM
Subject: Fwd: extra cells and other distortions
To: users-requ...@openoffice.org 


I am forwarding this message to the list with the attachment.  The
attachment opens perfectly in Quattro Pro X4 on the Windows 7 machine.
I am normally working with PCLINUXOS and OO version 3.2.1. (On a
different desktop.)  As you can see, there are extra cells shown above the
normal display, and bold lines on the last two columns to the right at
the top of the spreadsheet.  This always happens when I receive this
semi-monthly schedule.  I don't know what generated the file, but the
odds are excellent that it was a Microsoft product.  I must assume that
this is a bug, and I forward it to you for your attention and cure, if
possible.

PS:  I wish OO hadn't decided to try and emulate M/S.  Corel products
are much nicer.  If I could have Word Perfect here, I would! I would
cheerfully buy it.

--doug


Snipped unneeded text.

Just tried the file with several programs, under Ubuntu 10.10 and Win7. 
 LibO, OOo, Gnumeric, and Zoho web service all show the same thing, 6 
empty rows at the top and the borders under the heading of the last two 
columns.


The strange thing is that the above is also shown in Excel under Win7. 
To me there does not seem to be any problem with the way the sheet is 
displayed on the non-MS programs.


I would also suggest that phone numbers be removed from such files 
before sending them to a mailing list or forum.


@Doug, please do not reply direct.  Reply only to the mailing list.
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[users] Re: Pictures not appearing in Writer documents

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Pu Taang Zomi wrote:


*Pictures Not Appearing in Writer Documents


When I insert a picture (Insert --> Pictures --> From File), or when I
copy a picture and paste (right click a picture, click copy, paste it on
the page), the picture does not appear on the page.

But when I look at page review (File --> Page Preview), or when I print
it, or when I export it as PDF, the picture appears.

How can I make the picture appear in the Writer document?

I use OpenOffice.org 3.3.0, Winfdows 7.*


Under  Tools> Options> OpenOffice.org Writer> View>  Make sure that the 
Graphics and objects  box is checked.


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[users] Re: Cant seem to download Openoffice

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Andrew T wrote:

Gday There

I have tried and tried to download openoffice but it always takes me to
planet mirror, I can not see anywhere on the page there to download
openoffice. Please advise me what to do.

Kind Regards

Andrew

Are you starting on the mail web page at www.openoffice.org ?  Click the 
"I want to download OpenOffice.org" button?  If so the upper part of the 
green highlighted section should give the version for you language and 
operating system.  If it is correct click on the dark green area and the 
download should start.  Clicking on the light green will bring up other 
options, but I see none that go to the planet mirror.


Where are you located, which operating system and language?

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[users] Re: base field

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Patricia Bluhm wrote:

All I need is to know how to delete documents out of OpenOffice.

Pat Bluhm



Pat,

Please do not _hijack_ others threads.  It will get you message ignored 
at least.


Now for your message, I do not understand what you mean.  How are you 
trying to delete documents?  Which version of OOo are using?  Which 
version of Windows?


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[users] Re: Template

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Spencer wrote:

Hi,
I created a template for a document that is
about 10 pages long. After creating the template and
saving it, I open up a new document and my template
comes up. However, when I come to the
end of the first page and go to the next
page, page 2, my template dose not appear any more.
It only show when I start a new document. Is there
some kind of linkage I got to do to tell writer
to use this template for every page?
Thanks



Can you send me a copy of the template off list?  It will be easier to 
figure out what is happening.


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[users] Re: openoffice for tablet

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ravindra nagvekar wrote:

All,

I am follower of openoffice, open office is a great software but most of
the people unaware of if. if we want to make it really popular we need
comman pc users to know about it. now a days tablet pc's are gaining
market I am not aware of openoffice availability on tablet.
can we start working and making openoffice available on tablet computer
and capture more user confidence before other market leader start
thinking about it.

please let me know if openoffice is coming on my tablet

-Ravi


Sure it can be done.  All you need to do is get developers that want to 
work on the project, for free, to get involved.  That is how Open Source 
Software works. :)  Any one can do anything they want with the source code.


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[users] Re: Confuse on page breaks

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Spencer wrote:

Hi,
My template:
HEADER 2
HEADER 2
HEADER 3
some text

HEADER 3
HEADER 4
some text
HEADER 3
some text
page 1

Ever page will have this format.I put a manual
brake after page number, think that when I go
to the next page I get my template again. Instead
I get a blank page, which I think is the default
page. How do I get my template to be my template
always?
Thanks



Can you upload a copy of your template some where, like dropbox or 
medifire, and post a link?  It is a lot easier to troubleshoot the file 
than a description.


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[users] Re: Saving one sheet as a separate file in Calc.

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William Case wrote:

Hi;

This may just be a brain cramp, but I can't see anything in help.  If it
is in help could you tell me under which topic I should be looking.

I have a big spreadsheet in Calc with several sheets.  I simply want to
save one sheet to a new file (.xls).  The data and calculations on this
sheet are Independent of all other sheets.

Is there a way to do this without coping the entire sheet to a brand new
Calc file?

Using OOO 3.3.0


It is quite easy to do.  Right click on the sheet you want to copy, 
select the Move/Copy option.  In the pop-up, at the top, where it says 
"To document" select new.  If you wish to copy the page click the box at 
the bottom that says "Copy".  This will create a new file with only that 
sheet copied.  Open that file and then Save As to the .xls format.


HTH
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[users] Re: Understanding paragraph theory

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Tim Johnson wrote:

* Dan Lewis  [110314 17:29]:


  I suggest you use the link below to download the two chapters on
styles:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Chapters.
  Chapters 7 and 8 of the Writer Guide are what you need.

  Thanks Dan:
  Perhaps you meant to say chapters 6&  7?


I would also suggest chapters 4 and 10 to round it out. :)

Andy

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[users] Re: Mysterious Giant TABS

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Tim Johnson wrote:


   Whoa there partner! :) I know that you are trying to be helpful,
   and indeed I did ask for help, but you are overwhelming me with
   information.

   Let's keep it simple and succint:
   1)I have set Tab stops as .22 inches.
   2)In all cases but one and only one, pressing Tab at the beginning
 of a paragraph inserts a Tab of .22 inches.
 a)Why that particular paragraph?
 b)How do I insert a Tab of .22 inches at that point *instead of
   the 3~ inch tab?

thanks


Tim,

Can you send me short sample that shows both the .22 and 3 inch tabs?

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[users] Re: Selecting all test in a Writer document

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Susan W. Dunn wrote:

Hello,

I must consolidate separate chapters into one long document.  I have a
great deal of trouble selecting sequential pages of the document I'm
working on.  The cursor will just stop somewhere.  Is there some
shortcut like a Select all that would select all the text and formatting
with which I could cut and paste into the new, longer doc.

In other words, what would be the ideal way to concatenate these
chapters in order not to have any unnecessary page breaks with the one
single documents.

Thanks.
Susan Dunn
swd...@charter.net



Have you though about using a Master Document?  You can find out how at 
the ODFAuthors web site.  Go to [1] and select according to which 
version of OOo then look for WorkingWithMasterDocuments.odt/pdf and see 
if that will help.


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[users] Re: Looking for oofice executable (on linux)

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Tim Johnson wrote:

I recently removed OO 3.2 from my linux/ubuntu/mint 10 system.
I installed OO 3.3 from the debian install.

Now I can't start open office from Midnight Commander. The
reason is that the /etc/mc/mc.ext file has an entry that looks for
`oofice' associated with an .odt extension. Now there is no 'oofice'
executable on my system. I assume that `oofice' is a shell script
with `/opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter' as a command.
But before I procede, I'd like to see if there are any other
insights. :) We all know what 'assume' makes of us.

thanks


The 'oofice' must be a mint file.  Here under Ubuntu it is not listed. 
There are scripts for 'soffice', 'swriter' and the like.  Wish I could 
be more help.


Andy

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[users] Re: How to install?

[RA Brown]

Tim Johnson wrote:

Those reading may refer to my earlier email regarding problems
making the page numbers visible in a header.





I see multiple .deb files in the /DEBS folder, but I kind of expect
a master install file of some sort.
Looking at
http://download.openoffice.org/common/instructions.html#other_linux
I see nothing helpful about installing debian-style packages.
Again Grrr!

Well, I've gone from bad to worse. Now I have no OO at all and maybe
some kind person can enlighten me where to go from here.

l8tr


In a terminal cd to the directory that has the debs files.  Execute 
sudo dpkg -i *.deb  , then cd to the desktop-integration folder and 
execute the sudo command.


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[users] Re: Question about Open Office

[RA Brown]

nice2sayhello wrote:

Hi,

I was thinking about purchasing Quickbooks which says it's intergated
with Excel.

Can Open Office be integrated with Quickbooks?

Thank you.
Renee



Try this link [1] to see if that will help.  It is more related to using 
Base but you may find something useful.


[1] 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=38818&p=178334&hilit=quickbooks#p178159



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Re: [users] spreadsheet print the lines

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Gracia M. Littauer wrote:

I want to print a spreadsheet page with all the lines..I know one can do it
but can't remember how&  can't find in docs.


Format-> Page.  On the last tab you will find what your looking for.

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Re: [users] footnotes

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On Wed Feb 09 2011 16:56:19 GMT-0800 (PST)  car...@aol.com wrote:
 


 I have Open Office 2,  Windows XP, and Foxfire.

I'm doing a journal which is a large file consisting of articles within it.

Two of the articles have footnotes.

The first article had four footnotes and each one was numbered 1, 2, 3, 4.

Now to the second article. It had seven footnotes.  I wanted the footnotes to 
start as 1 thru 7 but it started as footnote 5 thru 12.

How do you change the numbering so that the footnotes start with #1 on each 
article?

Please let me know in layman's English.

thank you

Annie Lloyd
car...@aol.com.  



Not sure about OOo 2, but in 3.3 you have the option of Automatic or 
Character on the insert Footnote dialog.  With that you will have to 
number each footnote but it would give what you want.


HTH
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Re: [users] Page Numbering doesn't seem consistant (to me)

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On Sat Feb 05 2011 11:54:10 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

I am looking at an ODF document where the numbering for the first
page starts at 48. At the first page from the status bar on the
left, I read the following:

'Page 41 1/19'

'1/19' is correct and updates as I would expect, but what I am
curious about is the 'Page 41' at page 1, why not 'Page 1'?  The
number following 'Page' increments by 1 as one moves from page to
page.

I welcome any explanations. 
thanks


Place the cursor just before the page number field on one of the pages. 
 Right click and select Field.  What do it say?




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Re: [users] Setting a starting number for a page (HowTO?)

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On Fri Feb 04 2011 13:03:47 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

* RA Brown  [110204 11:06]:

On Fri Feb 04 2011 11:39:19 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

 I have followed these instructions:
 """
 use Insert-> Fields-> Other.   On the Fields window select the 
Variables tab.   Under Type select  Set page variable  then under 
'selection'   click  'on' in the Offset box and enter 60 .
 Under Type, again, click on Show page variable.   This time under 
Format click on  Arabic (1 2 3).   Then click the  Insert  button at 
the bottom of

 the window.
 """
Alas my mistake, see mailing list.  Attached is a video showing the  
process.  It is in an open format so if it does not work I will see  
about converting to wav for you.


Yes, I could see the video and I see where I needed to execute an
"insert" twice : first after setting the variable and second after
choosing the display.

:) Works! Thanks Andy - my wife wants to bake you a pie. 


Glad to help and thankfully got it right this time.  It might spoil 
before it gets here, lower left coast, but tell her thanks for the offer.


Andy


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Re: [users] Setting a starting number for a page (HowTO?)

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On Fri Feb 04 2011 11:39:19 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

 I'm using OO 3.2 on Linux Ubuntu 10.04.
 The test document is in ODF format (.odt).

 I want to set an arbitrary starting number for a page, starting at
 the second page of the document where the first page is a title
 page and has a different page style from the second and following
 pages.

 I have followed these instructions:
 """
 use Insert-> Fields-> Other.  
 On the Fields window select the Variables tab.  
 Under Type select  Set page variable  then under 'selection'  
 click  'on' in the Offset box and enter 60 .


Seems I missed something here.  You should click the "Insert" button 
after setting the On and 60.


 Under Type, again, click on Show page variable.  
 This time under Format click on  Arabic (1 2 3).  
 Then click the  Insert  button at the bottom of

 the window.
 """
Alas, no page number is visible. However, if I look at the "Edit"
menu item, I see "Undo:Insert Field" has active. Can it be that
something is keeping the numbers from being visible. If so, nothing
is revealed if I activate "Nonprinting characters"

Just a comment also:
Seems very strange to me that when you choose 
Insert->Fields->Page Number, 
that there can't be an option to choose the starting number.


Anyway any and all help is welcome. Thanks.


Sending vid off list.

Sorry for the mistake.
Andy

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Re: [users] Setting a starting number for a page (HowTO?)

[RA Brown]

On Fri Feb 04 2011 11:39:19 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

 I have followed these instructions:
 """
 use Insert-> Fields-> Other.  
 On the Fields window select the Variables tab.  
 Under Type select  Set page variable  then under 'selection'  
 click  'on' in the Offset box and enter 60 .
 Under Type, again, click on Show page variable.  
 This time under Format click on  Arabic (1 2 3).  
 Then click the  Insert  button at the bottom of

 the window.
 """


Alas my mistake, see mailing list.  Attached is a video showing the 
process.  It is in an open format so if it does not work I will see 
about converting to wav for you.


Andy

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Re: [users] Mini-Corrector Removes Paragraph Indentation

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On Thu Feb 03 2011 16:31:49 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

* RA Brown  [110203 14:57]:

On Thu Feb 03 2011 15:18:42 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

FYI: I'm a programmer but don't use OO Writer myself, but am
attempting to aid my wife. We both use linux 10.4 (ubuntu).

We have installed the mini-corrector extension which does a good job
of removing extra spaces from the body of text, but it also removes
paragraph indentation - which is completely unacceptable. :( We've
solved one problem and created another..

I find that *if* I indent a paragraph by using the TAB key, the
indentation remains, but of course a TAB is not a space. I find
also, that although the specs that my wife is try to meet require *5
spaces*, I can't find a way for the TAB action to 'mimic' the 5
spaces and I doubt that there are.. Any ideas here?

The goal is to remove redundant spaces from within the text, but
not from paragraph indentation.

thanks

 Thanks for the reply:
I see two choices.  
The first is to make the tabs = 1 space for the  
start of the line.  

  Where do I do that?
  --
  From Tools->Options->OpenOffice.Org Writer->General->Tab Stops
  I do not see an option for setting in spaces. The available
  Measurement Units on Ver 3.2 are Millimeter, Centimeter, Inch,
  Pica and Point.


You can use the ruler at the top of the Writer page to set the spacing 
for the tabs.  Then on the Format-> Paragraph-> Tabs to see the 
settings.  Of course both spaces and tabs depend on the size of the font 
being used.


The second, preferred, is to use the Indent and  
Spacing feature of the paragraph style to do a hard indent.  

  OK. From Format->Paragraph->Indents and Spaces
  I do not see a "Hard Indent" option. I *do* see a Tab
  option but do not understand it.
  :( 
  I'm thinking setting the tabstop to ".20" might work,

  but do not know if it will be acceptable.


There is no "Hard indent" as such, but that is what it is since it does 
not depend on font size or spaces or tabs.  Use the setting for First 
Line to set the indent space leaving the rest at default settings.


Your welcome.
Andy

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Re: [users] Mini-Corrector Removes Paragraph Indentation

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On Thu Feb 03 2011 15:18:42 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

FYI: I'm a programmer but don't use OO Writer myself, but am
attempting to aid my wife. We both use linux 10.4 (ubuntu).

We have installed the mini-corrector extension which does a good job
of removing extra spaces from the body of text, but it also removes
paragraph indentation - which is completely unacceptable. :( We've
solved one problem and created another..

I find that *if* I indent a paragraph by using the TAB key, the
indentation remains, but of course a TAB is not a space. I find
also, that although the specs that my wife is try to meet require *5
spaces*, I can't find a way for the TAB action to 'mimic' the 5
spaces and I doubt that there are.. Any ideas here?

The goal is to remove redundant spaces from within the text, but
not from paragraph indentation.

thanks


I see two choices.  The first is to make the tabs = 1 space for the 
start of the line.  The second, preferred, is to use the Indent and 
Spacing feature of the paragraph style to do a hard indent.  Neither is 
what you asking for but looks like the only options.


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Re: [users] Open Office.Org- 2 programs

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On Tue Feb 01 2011 14:26:11 GMT-0800 (PST)  Hanna170 wrote:
I noticed that when I am in a spreadsheet and I want to create a word doc I have to close the spreadsheet. I cant work in 2 separate programs at one time or 
am I just trying to open the second program incorrectly ??


Please respond asap.

Thank you so much, 


Theresa Nelson


From the File menu you should be able to select New-> Text Document and 
have a new document open in Writer without closing Calc.


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Re: [users] Question re page numbers on footers

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On Tue Feb 01 2011 16:19:09 GMT-0800 (PST)  car...@aol.com wrote:

Hi:

I have Open Open 2, Windows XP, Firefox.

I am doing two journals, one has page numbers from 1 to 60. The second starts 
with page 61 and runs to 120. I had no problems with numbering the first sixty 
pages.  They started at page 1 and went to page 60.  However, with the second 
section from page 61 thru 120 - I put in the footer and it started with page 1. 
 How do I correct that?  How do I put in a page number that starts with page 
61?  Can someone please tell me how to do this?  I am not an expert on the 
computer, so please tell me in layman's language.  Thank you.

Annie Lloyd
car...@aol.com



I don't know if this will work but it works under 3.3.

Instead of Insert-> Page Number use Insert-> Fields-> Other.  On the 
Fields window select the Variables tab.  Under Type select  Set page 
variable  then under selection  click  'on' in the Offset box enter 60 . 
 Under Type, again, click on Show page variable.  This time under 
Format click on  Arabic (1 2 3) .  Then click the  Insert  button at the 
bottom of the window.


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Re: [users] Creating a title page

[RA Brown]

On Sun Jan 23 2011 14:03:14 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

* Barbara Duprey  [110123 12:58]:

On 1/23/2011 1:32 PM, RA Brown wrote:
On Sun Jan 23 2011 11:00:33 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote: 


So to ask the first question:
Why are separate page styles not being saved?

NOTE: This document is subject to very strict standards by the
recipient.

thanks
First, what format are you saving the file as. ODT or DOC?  If the 
later that is the problem as OOo does not inport or export to DOC with 
100% fidelity and some things get lost in the translation.
Good catch, Andy! Tim, Word (at least prior to Office 2007, and therefore 
in the .doc format; not sure about the newer formats) has no concept of 
page styles, so that aspect of OOo can't be carried from .odt into .doc, 
and therefore is not there when you reopen the file in Writer (when there 
is again a conversion into .odt while Writer is working on the file). So 
you should stay with .odt until you send the document off. If they accept 
.pdf files, that will be the most reliable way to make sure they see what 
you do. Otherwise, you might want to get the free viewer from Microsoft 
so you can check the .doc file, since they're so strict about the 
formatting.

 :) To make a long story short, the solution was reached by
  first saving to an .odt format. We found then that we could
   save the finished product retaining the desired formatting.
Now: I am trying to figure out how to delete all but the
 first 3 pages. on vim all I have to do is type `vgox'
  couldn't resist that one.

  thanks again and good tip on the pdf format


My offer still stands.

Andy

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Re: [users] Creating a title page

[RA Brown]

On Sun Jan 23 2011 12:05:20 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

* RA Brown  [110123 10:41]:

On Sun Jan 23 2011 11:00:33 GMT-0800 (PST)  Tim Johnson wrote:

First, what format are you saving the file as. ODT or DOC?  If the later  
that is the problem as OOo does not inport or export to DOC with 100%  
fidelity and some things get lost in the translation.

 It is being saved as a .doc extension. I had thought of that also.
 We can't send this to the recipient as an odt file, I don't think
 that they would be able to open an odt file. Perhaps we should save
 as an odt, than see if we can make things work and then make a
 final copy as .doc. What do you think?


If possible a better option would be as a PDF as it will retain the 
formating, if not possible then as to DOC for the final at least that 
way you do not lose your/her work.


Second, you should start a new thread/message and not reply to an  
existing thread and just change the subject.  Most modern mail readers  
use information within the hidden headers to link related messages,  
threads, and you message can be missed by someone that could help.

  I'm very embarassed about that. Of course I know better - I've
  been using internet, email and mailing lists since the dawn of the
  internet. I just forgot to delete the 'In-Reply-To' item. 
  Very sorry!




It happens and it was only a suggestion.

Andy

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