RE: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, I had missed that part and it is still not possible in iOS 16.6 public 
beta. But again, bringing up this alphabetical list is more a result of 
activating the search field/function, it would maybe be different if Apple gave 
you a button at the top where you could choose whether to display the list 
alphabetically, by install date, by app type etc.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

Hi Sieghard,

How did you locate the app to be deleted from within the App library? Did you 
first go to the alphabetized listing? It is when I'm in this listing that 
access to the edit mode controls are missing.

Alan

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 24, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I am running the latest public beta of iOS 16.6 and I just tried this by 
removing the Freeform app from my home screen since it is not an app I use or 
think I will be using. Afterwards I went to the app library and found the app 
there, I flicked down to start editing mode, then I flicked down again and I 
have delete there as an option, all the options are:

Activate Freeform
Stop Editing Apps
Delete Freeform
Drag Freeform

Maybe this has been fixed in iOS 16.6 assuming you are using the iOS 16.6 
public release. I think the current public beta is #3 so there will probably be 
a fourth public beta next week and maybe a 5th a week or two later before iOS 
16.6 will then be released for everybody sometime around mid or late July.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

Hi List,

I’m attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my 
iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple home 
screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library listing 
found after the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an 
alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using 
Apple’s category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when using 
the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag requiring me to first drag the 
app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit mode and delete 
it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I’m wondering if I’m missing a 
better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.

Many thanks if others can confirm what I’m experiencing and offer a quicker way 
to delete an app shown only in the App Library.

Alan Lemly
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RE: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not when you use the alphabetical view/search index

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

Just tripple tap on the app you want to delete, delete app will be the first 
option.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 24, 2023, at 1:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I am running the latest public beta of iOS 16.6 and I just tried this by 
removing the Freeform app from my home screen since it is not an app I use or 
think I will be using. Afterwards I went to the app library and found the app 
there, I flicked down to start editing mode, then I flicked down again and I 
have delete there as an option, all the options are:

Activate Freeform
Stop Editing Apps
Delete Freeform
Drag Freeform

Maybe this has been fixed in iOS 16.6 assuming you are using the iOS 16.6 
public release. I think the current public beta is #3 so there will probably be 
a fourth public beta next week and maybe a 5th a week or two later before iOS 
16.6 will then be released for everybody sometime around mid or late July.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

Hi List,

I’m attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my 
iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple home 
screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library listing 
found after the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an 
alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using 
Apple’s category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when using 
the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag requiring me to first drag the 
app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit mode and delete 
it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I’m wondering if I’m missing a 
better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.

Many thanks if others can confirm what I’m experiencing and offer a quicker way 
to delete an app shown only in the App Library.

Alan Lemly
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RE: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK, I get it now, sorry, I overlooked the extra step about bringing up the 
search index which is in alphabetical order.
The question here is whether a sighted person can delete an app from this view 
or not, maybe you are not meant to be able to do this.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

As Alan and I have said, this works fine in the App Library unless you 
alphabetize the list first, which you can do with a three finger swipe down. 
After you do a three finger swipe down to alphabetize the list of apps, you 
won’t be able to delete an app.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

Just tripple tap on the app you want to delete, delete app will be the first 
option.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 24, 2023, at 1:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I am running the latest public beta of iOS 16.6 and I just tried this by 
removing the Freeform app from my home screen since it is not an app I use or 
think I will be using. Afterwards I went to the app library and found the app 
there, I flicked down to start editing mode, then I flicked down again and I 
have delete there as an option, all the options are:

Activate Freeform
Stop Editing Apps
Delete Freeform
Drag Freeform

Maybe this has been fixed in iOS 16.6 assuming you are using the iOS 16.6 
public release. I think the current public beta is #3 so there will probably be 
a fourth public beta next week and maybe a 5th a week or two later before iOS 
16.6 will then be released for everybody sometime around mid or late July.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

Hi List,

I’m attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my 
iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple home 
screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library listing 
found after the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an 
alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using 
Apple’s category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when using 
the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag requiring me to first drag the 
app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit mode and delete 
it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I’m wondering if I’m missing a 
better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.

Many thanks if others can confirm what I’m experiencing and offer a quicker way 
to delete an app shown only in the App Library.

Alan Lemly
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Re: sirius xm question

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Here you go…1-866-687-4213.Sent from my IPhone.On Jun 24, 2023, at 10:39 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:Do you have their number? From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter LoganSent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 5:59 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: sirius xm question If you get the streaming platinum package… You will get all the major sports leagues… NFL, and NBA, MBL, NHL, NCAA, MSL… I would call them and see if you can get a trial, I got a year for five dollars a month… Normally I think this package is about $12 a month…  Sent from my IPhone.On Jun 24, 2023, at 5:02 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:Hi, what subscription do you need to be able to listen to the NFL MLB ETC?  Do you need a radio?-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d9a6df%241d379500%2457a6bf00%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/4DD89E49-3071-4D9C-8B85-DE7C1ABBDC56%40gmail.com.



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Re: Rumble

[Wayne Scott]

I find both the Rumble app website lot of work. a need and the 

Wayne Scott  
 

> On Jun 24, 2023, at 6:02 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You got further than did I I couldn't even get videos to play in there.
> 
> Take good care,
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
>> On 6/21/2023 9:31 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:
>> Hi all, can any one tell me how to either rewind or fast forward on the 
>> rumble app? Thanks.
>> 
>> Lelia
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Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Jonathan Cohn]

OK, I pulled up Speech Central for the first time in three months, because I found it not very useful for me. When the app is not playing anything, it is impossible to adjust the speaking rate, you have to have it playing in order for the adjustable value actually adjust. That is a frustrating way of doing things in my opinion.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 24, 2023, at 9:07 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:Ivan, Richard Turner has been posting helpful answers and advice on numerous lists for many years. He is not the problem here. You should do a better job of getting your facts straight and should refrain from attacking someone publicly especially when your facts are wrong. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 24, 2023, at 1:20 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,personally I am disappointed that you present here as some sort of community leader and you don't know even what are VoiceOver gestures. You seem not even to know on how to use them in Voice Dream Reader.Everything that I say is verifiable and everyone can check who is telling the truth. Actually those features exist in Speech Central because one blind user was using them in Voice Dream Reader and he has specifically asked for them and I liked the idea. Everyone can check if this works even in Voice Dream - set a VoiceOver focus on Audio Settings app and swipe up and down and you will see that it changes the speed.Anyway I still thank you for your effort and I appreciate it from that point.On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 8:08:21 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:You have no idea what you are talking about. You clearly are not understanding what I am saying. If you actually used VoiceOver everyday as I do, what I said would make sense. I'll simply stick with Voice Dream Reader.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 24, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,I am not completely sure what you meant by this statement.Thus far I know certainly that you can't access some adjustable controls in my app on main screen (play button gestures and speed button gestures).As far as I understand your description, you can't access any such controls on your device whether they are in my app or in another app?That would make sense, as speed is alternatively set by sliders in settings, which are also adjustable system provided controls, which would explain on why you couldn't set the speed from the very start in any way.Further your description sounds like that you can't perform this action in Voice Dream either. That Audio settings button in Voice Dream is not meant just for displaying the speed as you have quoted, but rather for adjusting the speed by VoiceOver swipe up and down gestures.As such your reflection makes more sense now, but then your device is not working properly (the only second option would be that you don't perform this gestures properly which is much less likely).If you can't use the system control called slider in an accessible way like other VoiceOver users can, that is certainly a big problem that you should fix not because of Speech Central but because it is a widely used control and if it doesn't work many apps will become inaccessible for you though they are actually accessible.One more remark to this - I had a chat week or two ago with one local blind user who has self-discovered those gestures and used them. So it isn't that hard like one user here pointed out.On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:It is over the button labeled Audio Settings and it tells you the number of words per minute.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 23, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,I have just tried and it works. For speed it may not be obvious as it will just repeat the sentence at a bit higher or slower speed but with two or three swipes the difference will be quite noticeable. Voice Dream Reader has a similar VoiceOver adjustable gesture for speed (I think that it is over their button that should be titled “Speech”). Can you perform such a gesture there?On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:50:45 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:Ivan,I am using a 13 Pro. And flicking up or down on the speed button does only switch between standard and high.Flicking up or down on the play button doesn't seem to do anything.I will revisit it again after reading the helps.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 23, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:OK,for the speed when that standard/high speed button is focused with Vo

RE: sirius xm question

[Dennis Long]

Do you have their number?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 5:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sirius xm question

 

If you get the streaming platinum package… You will get all the major sports 
leagues… NFL, and NBA, MBL, NHL, NCAA, MSL…

 

I would call them and see if you can get a trial, I got a year for five dollars 
a month… Normally I think this package is about $12 a month… 

 

Sent from my IPhone.





On Jun 24, 2023, at 5:02 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi, what subscription do you need to be able to listen to the NFL MLB ETC?  Do 
you need a radio?

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Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Alan Lemly]

Ivan, Richard Turner has been posting helpful answers and advice on numerous lists for many years. He is not the problem here. You should do a better job of getting your facts straight and should refrain from attacking someone publicly especially when your facts are wrong. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 24, 2023, at 1:20 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,personally I am disappointed that you present here as some sort of community leader and you don't know even what are VoiceOver gestures. You seem not even to know on how to use them in Voice Dream Reader.Everything that I say is verifiable and everyone can check who is telling the truth. Actually those features exist in Speech Central because one blind user was using them in Voice Dream Reader and he has specifically asked for them and I liked the idea. Everyone can check if this works even in Voice Dream - set a VoiceOver focus on Audio Settings app and swipe up and down and you will see that it changes the speed.Anyway I still thank you for your effort and I appreciate it from that point.On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 8:08:21 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:You have no idea what you are talking about. You clearly are not understanding what I am saying. If you actually used VoiceOver everyday as I do, what I said would make sense. I'll simply stick with Voice Dream Reader.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 24, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,I am not completely sure what you meant by this statement.Thus far I know certainly that you can't access some adjustable controls in my app on main screen (play button gestures and speed button gestures).As far as I understand your description, you can't access any such controls on your device whether they are in my app or in another app?That would make sense, as speed is alternatively set by sliders in settings, which are also adjustable system provided controls, which would explain on why you couldn't set the speed from the very start in any way.Further your description sounds like that you can't perform this action in Voice Dream either. That Audio settings button in Voice Dream is not meant just for displaying the speed as you have quoted, but rather for adjusting the speed by VoiceOver swipe up and down gestures.As such your reflection makes more sense now, but then your device is not working properly (the only second option would be that you don't perform this gestures properly which is much less likely).If you can't use the system control called slider in an accessible way like other VoiceOver users can, that is certainly a big problem that you should fix not because of Speech Central but because it is a widely used control and if it doesn't work many apps will become inaccessible for you though they are actually accessible.One more remark to this - I had a chat week or two ago with one local blind user who has self-discovered those gestures and used them. So it isn't that hard like one user here pointed out.On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:It is over the button labeled Audio Settings and it tells you the number of words per minute.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 23, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,I have just tried and it works. For speed it may not be obvious as it will just repeat the sentence at a bit higher or slower speed but with two or three swipes the difference will be quite noticeable. Voice Dream Reader has a similar VoiceOver adjustable gesture for speed (I think that it is over their button that should be titled “Speech”). Can you perform such a gesture there?On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:50:45 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:Ivan,I am using a 13 Pro. And flicking up or down on the speed button does only switch between standard and high.Flicking up or down on the play button doesn't seem to do anything.I will revisit it again after reading the helps.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 23, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:OK,for the speed when that standard/high speed button is focused with VoiceOver you should hear 'adjustable', which means that you can swipe up and down to do something. In this case it is to increase the current speed (this way you can customise the value of both standard and high speed depending on the state of that button). This is also available in the Settings where you can find sliders to customize those two values (and that is the only way you can adjust th

Re: Rumble

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

You got further than did I I couldn't even get videos to play in there.

Take good care,

Robin


On 6/21/2023 9:31 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:

Hi all, can any one tell me how to either rewind or fast forward on the rumble 
app? Thanks.

Lelia

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Re: found a usable free streaming service

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It doesn't have very much. I found some audio described content when it first became available, but I'm not finding very much now.
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On Jun 24, 2023 2:45 PM, Suzy Djouma  wrote:



Thanks for this. Do you know if freevee has audio description?



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Freevee is usable on Apple TV and iPhone. Apple tv seens to be a bit better with voiceover.
The web site you will need on apple TV to sign to your amazon account is

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Re: sirius xm question

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If you get the streaming platinum package… You will get all the major sports leagues… NFL, and NBA, MBL, NHL, NCAA, MSL…I would call them and see if you can get a trial, I got a year for five dollars a month… Normally I think this package is about $12 a month… Sent from my IPhone.On Jun 24, 2023, at 5:02 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:Hi, what subscription do you need to be able to listen to the NFL MLB ETC?  Do you need a radio?



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RE: found a usable free streaming service

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So far haven’t found it.

 

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Thanks for this. Do you know if freevee has audio description?

 

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Hi all:

Freevee is usable on Apple TV and iPhone. Apple tv seens to be a bit better 
with voiceover.

The web site you will need on apple TV to sign to your amazon account is 

www.amazon.com/code  

 

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Re: sirius xm question

[Rich De Steno]

Get the  streaming service, no radio is required and you get every 
SiriusXM channel.



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Hi, what subscription do you need to be able to listen to the NFL MLB ETC?
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Re: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

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Are you'll sure that within the Rotor, you have it set up within Settings/Accessibility/VoiceOver, that you've set the rotor to display de Edit options? This is under Rotor/Rotor Actions; double-tap on Rotor Actions, and the first thing you'll see is (hopefully in English it'll be similar frasing since I use mine in Spanish), but it'll be something like (Edit apps...); which I've checked. Good luck!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 24 jun 2023, a la(s) 2:22 p.m., Christopher Chaltain  escribió:







As Alan and I have said, this works fine in the App Library unless you alphabetize the list first, which you can do with a three finger swipe down. After you do a three finger swipe down to alphabetize the list of apps, you won’t be able
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Just tripple tap on the app you want to delete, delete app will be the first option.

Sent from my iPhone






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I am running the latest public beta of iOS 16.6 and I just tried this by removing the Freeform app from my home screen since it is not an app I use or think I will be using. Afterwards I went to the app library and found the app there,
 I flicked down to start editing mode, then I flicked down again and I have delete there as an option, all the options are:
 
Activate Freeform
Stop Editing Apps
Delete Freeform
Drag Freeform
 
Maybe this has been fixed in iOS 16.6 assuming you are using the iOS 16.6 public release. I think the current public beta is #3 so there will probably be a fourth public beta next week and maybe a 5th a week or two later before
 iOS 16.6 will then be released for everybody sometime around mid or late July.


 
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Hi List,
 
I’m attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple home screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library listing found after
 the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using Apple’s category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when using the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag
 requiring me to first drag the app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit mode and delete it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I’m wondering if I’m missing a better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.
 
Many thanks if others can confirm what I’m experiencing and offer a quicker way to delete an app shown only in the App Library.
 
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RE: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

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As Alan and I have said, this works fine in the App Library unless you 
alphabetize the list first, which you can do with a three finger swipe down. 
After you do a three finger swipe down to alphabetize the list of apps, you 
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Just tripple tap on the app you want to delete, delete app will be the first 
option.
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mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I am running the latest public beta of iOS 16.6 and I just tried this by 
removing the Freeform app from my home screen since it is not an app I use or 
think I will be using. Afterwards I went to the app library and found the app 
there, I flicked down to start editing mode, then I flicked down again and I 
have delete there as an option, all the options are:

Activate Freeform
Stop Editing Apps
Delete Freeform
Drag Freeform

Maybe this has been fixed in iOS 16.6 assuming you are using the iOS 16.6 
public release. I think the current public beta is #3 so there will probably be 
a fourth public beta next week and maybe a 5th a week or two later before iOS 
16.6 will then be released for everybody sometime around mid or late July.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

Hi List,

I’m attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my 
iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple home 
screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library listing 
found after the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an 
alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using 
Apple’s category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when using 
the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag requiring me to first drag the 
app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit mode and delete 
it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I’m wondering if I’m missing a 
better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.

Many thanks if others can confirm what I’m experiencing and offer a quicker way 
to delete an app shown only in the App Library.

Alan Lemly
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Re: found a usable free streaming service

[Suzy Djouma]

Thanks for this. Do you know if freevee has audio description?

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Hi all:

Freevee is usable on Apple TV and iPhone. Apple tv seens to be a bit better 
with voiceover.

The web site you will need on apple TV to sign to your amazon account is

www.amazon.com/code



Put in the code on apple tv that vo reads and you are activated.

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found a usable free streaming service

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Hi all:

Freevee is usable on Apple TV and iPhone. Apple tv seens to be a bit better
with voiceover.

The web site you will need on apple TV to sign to your amazon account is 

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Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Richard Turner]

I am done with you and your app. I said, very clearly, that flicking up and down on the audio settings button in Voice Dream Reader changed the speed, and spoke the number of words per minute and could be done on the fly. However in speech central doing that same gesture on your speed button, did not do anything. I made damn sure the rotor was on adjust value. I'm glad some people find your app very useful. Just so you know, I taught VoiceOver for over 10 years to low-vision and blind users and people who know me, know I understand how to communicate those gestures. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 24, 2023, at 11:21 AM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,personally I am disappointed that you present here as some sort of community leader and you don't know even what are VoiceOver gestures. You seem not even to know on how to use them in Voice Dream Reader.Everything that I say is verifiable and everyone can check who is telling the truth. Actually those features exist in Speech Central because one blind user was using them in Voice Dream Reader and he has specifically asked for them and I liked the idea. Everyone can check if this works even in Voice Dream - set a VoiceOver focus on Audio Settings app and swipe up and down and you will see that it changes the speed.Anyway I still thank you for your effort and I appreciate it from that point.On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 8:08:21 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:You have no idea what you are talking about. You clearly are not understanding what I am saying. If you actually used VoiceOver everyday as I do, what I said would make sense. I'll simply stick with Voice Dream Reader.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 24, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,I am not completely sure what you meant by this statement.Thus far I know certainly that you can't access some adjustable controls in my app on main screen (play button gestures and speed button gestures).As far as I understand your description, you can't access any such controls on your device whether they are in my app or in another app?That would make sense, as speed is alternatively set by sliders in settings, which are also adjustable system provided controls, which would explain on why you couldn't set the speed from the very start in any way.Further your description sounds like that you can't perform this action in Voice Dream either. That Audio settings button in Voice Dream is not meant just for displaying the speed as you have quoted, but rather for adjusting the speed by VoiceOver swipe up and down gestures.As such your reflection makes more sense now, but then your device is not working properly (the only second option would be that you don't perform this gestures properly which is much less likely).If you can't use the system control called slider in an accessible way like other VoiceOver users can, that is certainly a big problem that you should fix not because of Speech Central but because it is a widely used control and if it doesn't work many apps will become inaccessible for you though they are actually accessible.One more remark to this - I had a chat week or two ago with one local blind user who has self-discovered those gestures and used them. So it isn't that hard like one user here pointed out.On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:It is over the button labeled Audio Settings and it tells you the number of words per minute.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 23, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,I have just tried and it works. For speed it may not be obvious as it will just repeat the sentence at a bit higher or slower speed but with two or three swipes the difference will be quite noticeable. Voice Dream Reader has a similar VoiceOver adjustable gesture for speed (I think that it is over their button that should be titled “Speech”). Can you perform such a gesture there?On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:50:45 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:Ivan,I am using a 13 Pro. And flicking up or down on the speed button does only switch between standard and high.Flicking up or down on the play button doesn't seem to do anything.I will revisit it again after reading the helps.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 23, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:OK,

Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Ivan Icin]

Richard,

personally I am disappointed that you present here as some sort of 
community leader and you don't know even what are VoiceOver gestures. You 
seem not even to know on how to use them in Voice Dream Reader.

Everything that I say is verifiable and everyone can check who is telling 
the truth. Actually those features exist in Speech Central because one 
blind user was using them in Voice Dream Reader and he has specifically 
asked for them and I liked the idea. Everyone can check if this works even 
in Voice Dream - set a VoiceOver focus on Audio Settings app and swipe up 
and down and you will see that it changes the speed.

Anyway I still thank you for your effort and I appreciate it from that 
point.

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 8:08:21 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:

> You have no idea what you are talking about. You clearly are not 
> understanding what I am saying. 
> If you actually used VoiceOver everyday as I do, what I said would make 
> sense. 
> I'll simply stick with Voice Dream Reader.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Ivan Icin  wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> I am not completely sure what you meant by this statement.
>
> Thus far I know certainly that you can't access some adjustable controls 
> in my app on main screen (play button gestures and speed button gestures).
>
> As far as I understand your description, you can't access any such 
> controls on your device whether they are in my app or in another app?
>
> That would make sense, as speed is alternatively set by sliders in 
> settings, which are also adjustable system provided controls, which would 
> explain on why you couldn't set the speed from the very start in any way.
>
> Further your description sounds like that you can't perform this action in 
> Voice Dream either. That Audio settings button in Voice Dream is not meant 
> just for displaying the speed as you have quoted, but rather for adjusting 
> the speed by VoiceOver swipe up and down gestures.
>
> As such your reflection makes more sense now, but then your device is not 
> working properly (the only second option would be that you don't perform 
> this gestures properly which is much less likely).
>
> If you can't use the system control called slider in an accessible way 
> like other VoiceOver users can, that is certainly a big problem that you 
> should fix not because of Speech Central but because it is a widely used 
> control and if it doesn't work many apps will become inaccessible for you 
> though they are actually accessible.
>
> One more remark to this - I had a chat week or two ago with one local 
> blind user who has self-discovered those gestures and used them. So it 
> isn't that hard like one user here pointed out.
>
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:
>
>> It is over the button labeled Audio Settings and it tells you the number 
>> of words per minute.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>> On Jun 23, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Richard,
>>
>> I have just tried and it works. For speed it may not be obvious as it 
>> will just repeat the sentence at a bit higher or slower speed but with two 
>> or three swipes the difference will be quite noticeable. 
>>
>> Voice Dream Reader has a similar VoiceOver adjustable gesture for speed 
>> (I think that it is over their button that should be titled “Speech”). Can 
>> you perform such a gesture there?
>>
>> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:50:45 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Ivan,
>>> I am using a 13 Pro. And flicking up or down on the speed button does 
>>> only switch between standard and high.
>>> Flicking up or down on the play button doesn't seem to do anything.
>>> I will revisit it again after reading the helps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John 
>>> Ruskin
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:
>>>
>>> OK,
>>>
>>>
>>> for the speed when that standard/high speed button is focused with 
>>> VoiceOver you should hear 'adjustable', which means that you can swipe up 
>>> and down to do something. In this case it is to increase the current speed 
>>> (this way you can customise the value of both standard and high speed 
>>> depending on the state of that button). This is also available in the 
>>> Settings where you can find sliders to customize those two values (and that 
>>> is the only way you can adjust those values for those that don'

Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Richard Turner]

You have no idea what you are talking about. You clearly are not understanding what I am saying. If you actually used VoiceOver everyday as I do, what I said would make sense. I'll simply stick with Voice Dream Reader.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 24, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,I am not completely sure what you meant by this statement.Thus far I know certainly that you can't access some adjustable controls in my app on main screen (play button gestures and speed button gestures).As far as I understand your description, you can't access any such controls on your device whether they are in my app or in another app?That would make sense, as speed is alternatively set by sliders in settings, which are also adjustable system provided controls, which would explain on why you couldn't set the speed from the very start in any way.Further your description sounds like that you can't perform this action in Voice Dream either. That Audio settings button in Voice Dream is not meant just for displaying the speed as you have quoted, but rather for adjusting the speed by VoiceOver swipe up and down gestures.As such your reflection makes more sense now, but then your device is not working properly (the only second option would be that you don't perform this gestures properly which is much less likely).If you can't use the system control called slider in an accessible way like other VoiceOver users can, that is certainly a big problem that you should fix not because of Speech Central but because it is a widely used control and if it doesn't work many apps will become inaccessible for you though they are actually accessible.One more remark to this - I had a chat week or two ago with one local blind user who has self-discovered those gestures and used them. So it isn't that hard like one user here pointed out.On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:It is over the button labeled Audio Settings and it tells you the number of words per minute.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 23, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,I have just tried and it works. For speed it may not be obvious as it will just repeat the sentence at a bit higher or slower speed but with two or three swipes the difference will be quite noticeable. Voice Dream Reader has a similar VoiceOver adjustable gesture for speed (I think that it is over their button that should be titled “Speech”). Can you perform such a gesture there?On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:50:45 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:Ivan,I am using a 13 Pro. And flicking up or down on the speed button does only switch between standard and high.Flicking up or down on the play button doesn't seem to do anything.I will revisit it again after reading the helps.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 23, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:OK,for the speed when that standard/high speed button is focused with VoiceOver you should hear 'adjustable', which means that you can swipe up and down to do something. In this case it is to increase the current speed (this way you can customise the value of both standard and high speed depending on the state of that button). This is also available in the Settings where you can find sliders to customize those two values (and that is the only way you can adjust those values for those that don't use VoiceOver)For the navigation the story is a bit more complex as this is a bit more different than VDR, but in some way it may be even more capable. You need to be aware of those layers:- navigation is at the high level accommodated to be of maximal use with headphones and other audio devices (there are tactile audio commands on all Apple's headphones and most of the 3rd party ones). As such it is based on multiple standard audio commands and some their gestures. As I side note I find somewhat strange that people with eyesight to some extent prefer to use the app with headphones while blind people that are not in any way handicapped in using the headphones and are to some extent handicapped in using the screen extremely prefer to use the screen and I don't have any explanation for that - even as I have asked few blind people for the feedback. However I try to support every use case the best it can be so the app is certainly useful in that way too.- every standard audio command (play/pause, skip forward, skip backword, next, previous) and gesture (quick press of the volume up and then volume down

Re: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

[Cris Ali]

Just tripple tap on the app you want to delete, delete app will be the first 
option.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 24, 2023, at 1:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I am running the latest public beta of iOS 16.6 and I just tried this by 
removing the Freeform app from my home screen since it is not an app I use or 
think I will be using. Afterwards I went to the app library and found the app 
there, I flicked down to start editing mode, then I flicked down again and I 
have delete there as an option, all the options are:

Activate Freeform
Stop Editing Apps
Delete Freeform
Drag Freeform

Maybe this has been fixed in iOS 16.6 assuming you are using the iOS 16.6 
public release. I think the current public beta is #3 so there will probably be 
a fourth public beta next week and maybe a 5th a week or two later before iOS 
16.6 will then be released for everybody sometime around mid or late July.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

Hi List,

I’m attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my 
iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple home 
screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library listing 
found after the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an 
alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using 
Apple’s category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when using 
the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag requiring me to first drag the 
app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit mode and delete 
it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I’m wondering if I’m missing a 
better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.

Many thanks if others can confirm what I’m experiencing and offer a quicker way 
to delete an app shown only in the App Library.

Alan Lemly
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Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Ivan Icin]

Richard,

I am not completely sure what you meant by this statement.

Thus far I know certainly that you can't access some adjustable controls in 
my app on main screen (play button gestures and speed button gestures).

As far as I understand your description, you can't access any such controls 
on your device whether they are in my app or in another app?

That would make sense, as speed is alternatively set by sliders in 
settings, which are also adjustable system provided controls, which would 
explain on why you couldn't set the speed from the very start in any way.

Further your description sounds like that you can't perform this action in 
Voice Dream either. That Audio settings button in Voice Dream is not meant 
just for displaying the speed as you have quoted, but rather for adjusting 
the speed by VoiceOver swipe up and down gestures.

As such your reflection makes more sense now, but then your device is not 
working properly (the only second option would be that you don't perform 
this gestures properly which is much less likely).

If you can't use the system control called slider in an accessible way like 
other VoiceOver users can, that is certainly a big problem that you should 
fix not because of Speech Central but because it is a widely used control 
and if it doesn't work many apps will become inaccessible for you though 
they are actually accessible.

One more remark to this - I had a chat week or two ago with one local blind 
user who has self-discovered those gestures and used them. So it isn't that 
hard like one user here pointed out.

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:

> It is over the button labeled Audio Settings and it tells you the number 
> of words per minute.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:
>
> 
> Richard,
>
> I have just tried and it works. For speed it may not be obvious as it will 
> just repeat the sentence at a bit higher or slower speed but with two or 
> three swipes the difference will be quite noticeable. 
>
> Voice Dream Reader has a similar VoiceOver adjustable gesture for speed (I 
> think that it is over their button that should be titled “Speech”). Can you 
> perform such a gesture there?
>
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:50:45 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:
>
>> Ivan,
>> I am using a 13 Pro. And flicking up or down on the speed button does 
>> only switch between standard and high.
>> Flicking up or down on the play button doesn't seem to do anything.
>> I will revisit it again after reading the helps.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>> On Jun 23, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:
>>
>> OK,
>>
>>
>> for the speed when that standard/high speed button is focused with 
>> VoiceOver you should hear 'adjustable', which means that you can swipe up 
>> and down to do something. In this case it is to increase the current speed 
>> (this way you can customise the value of both standard and high speed 
>> depending on the state of that button). This is also available in the 
>> Settings where you can find sliders to customize those two values (and that 
>> is the only way you can adjust those values for those that don't use 
>> VoiceOver)
>>
>> For the navigation the story is a bit more complex as this is a bit more 
>> different than VDR, but in some way it may be even more capable. You need 
>> to be aware of those layers:
>> - navigation is at the high level accommodated to be of maximal use with 
>> headphones and other audio devices (there are tactile audio commands on all 
>> Apple's headphones and most of the 3rd party ones). As such it is based on 
>> multiple standard audio commands and some their gestures. As I side note I 
>> find somewhat strange that people with eyesight to some extent prefer to 
>> use the app with headphones while blind people that are not in any way 
>> handicapped in using the headphones and are to some extent handicapped in 
>> using the screen extremely prefer to use the screen and I don't have any 
>> explanation for that - even as I have asked few blind people for the 
>> feedback. However I try to support every use case the best it can be so the 
>> app is certainly useful in that way too.
>> - every standard audio command (play/pause, skip forward, skip backword, 
>> next, previous) and gesture (quick press of the volume up and then volume 
>> down button or quick press of the volume down and then volume up button) 
>> can be customised in the app's Settings to execute any of the commands that 
>> you have mentioned (like going to the next paragraph, sentence, etc).
>>

Re: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

[Arnold Schmidt]

I just checked, and under 16.5.1, after getting into editing mode, delete is one of the options. That may bea a recent update, in that I remember having to drag an app onto a home screen to delete it. Having to do that was many updates ago, I don't remember how long ago now, or maybe I just didn't know what I was doing. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Jun 24, 2023, at 1:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I am running the latest public beta of iOS 16.6 and I just tried this by removing the Freeform app from my home screen since it is not an app I use or think I will be using. Afterwards I went to the app library and found the app there,
 I flicked down to start editing mode, then I flicked down again and I have delete there as an option, all the options are:
 
Activate Freeform
Stop Editing Apps
Delete Freeform
Drag Freeform
 
Maybe this has been fixed in iOS 16.6 assuming you are using the iOS 16.6 public release. I think the current public beta is #3 so there will probably be a fourth public beta next week and maybe a 5th a week or two later before
 iOS 16.6 will then be released for everybody sometime around mid or late July.


 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?


 
Hi List,
 
I’m attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple home screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library listing found after
 the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using Apple’s category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when using the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag
 requiring me to first drag the app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit mode and delete it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I’m wondering if I’m missing a better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.
 
Many thanks if others can confirm what I’m experiencing and offer a quicker way to delete an app shown only in the App Library.
 
Alan Lemly
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Re: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard, How did you locate the app to be deleted from within the App library? Did you first go to the alphabetized listing? It is when I'm in this listing that access to the edit mode controls are missing. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 24, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I am running the latest public beta of iOS 16.6 and I just tried this by removing the Freeform app from my home screen since it is not an app I use or think I will be using. Afterwards I went to the app library and found the app there,
 I flicked down to start editing mode, then I flicked down again and I have delete there as an option, all the options are:
 
Activate Freeform
Stop Editing Apps
Delete Freeform
Drag Freeform
 
Maybe this has been fixed in iOS 16.6 assuming you are using the iOS 16.6 public release. I think the current public beta is #3 so there will probably be a fourth public beta next week and maybe a 5th a week or two later before
 iOS 16.6 will then be released for everybody sometime around mid or late July.


 
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Subject: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?


 
Hi List,
 
I’m attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple home screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library listing found after
 the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using Apple’s category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when using the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag
 requiring me to first drag the app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit mode and delete it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I’m wondering if I’m missing a better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.
 
Many thanks if others can confirm what I’m experiencing and offer a quicker way to delete an app shown only in the App Library.
 
Alan Lemly
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RE: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am running the latest public beta of iOS 16.6 and I just tried this by 
removing the Freeform app from my home screen since it is not an app I use or 
think I will be using. Afterwards I went to the app library and found the app 
there, I flicked down to start editing mode, then I flicked down again and I 
have delete there as an option, all the options are:

Activate Freeform
Stop Editing Apps
Delete Freeform
Drag Freeform

Maybe this has been fixed in iOS 16.6 assuming you are using the iOS 16.6 
public release. I think the current public beta is #3 so there will probably be 
a fourth public beta next week and maybe a 5th a week or two later before iOS 
16.6 will then be released for everybody sometime around mid or late July.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

Hi List,

I’m attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my 
iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple home 
screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library listing 
found after the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an 
alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using 
Apple’s category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when using 
the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag requiring me to first drag the 
app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit mode and delete 
it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I’m wondering if I’m missing a 
better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.

Many thanks if others can confirm what I’m experiencing and offer a quicker way 
to delete an app shown only in the App Library.

Alan Lemly
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