RE: From Work to Home (again!!)[Scanned]

[Wayne Ivory]

Thanks for the replies.  Addressing the questions/issues brought up by
both of you...

There is no firewall at home.  (Well that's not quite true.  The PC has
ZoneAlarm on it but I have/will turn that off for VNC testing purposes.)

I'm not sure whether my boss would "know" whether the corporate firewall
supports ssh.  He might, but he's not here today.  What "non-generic"
stuff do you guys need to know about our corporate firewall to help you
help me?

Thanks

Wayne Ivory
IT Analyst Programmer
Wespine Industries Pty Ltd

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Behalf Of Angelo Sarto
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 11:07 PM
To: Jerry Westrick
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: From Work to Home (again!!)[Scanned]

TO make a connection between to firewalled computers there are only
two methods that I know of:

1.  use a proxy or pass through service, there are a few of theese out
there but they do cost money.

2.  modify either firewall.  This one is important in order to get vnc
to work it is very likely that you only need to change one firewall.  
If your boss is uncomfortable perhaps you could change your home
firewall. ***

***What jerry is saying is that some connections may be blocked in an
outbound direction.  (Un)fortunatley? many corporate firewalls are
only inbound blocking.  Many that I have come across will allow you to
run any protocol (e.g. as long as your computer is initiating the
connection.

I am not sure what the situation is in your case.


On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:36:13 +0100, Jerry Westrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hello Wayne...
> 
> First off you need to find out how you are going to get through your
> firewall.  Firewall is a generic term, And "corporate firewall"
usually means
> "we don't want you to do anything but HTML".
> 
> So  if you are planning on using ssh (putty is an ssh client) to
tunnel,
> you'll have to ask your BOSS if the "corporate firewall" allows ssh.
> 
> or I guess you could just try it and see.
> 
> But I doubt its open as it would be a huge hole in your "corporate
firewall".
> 
> If you can use it, Then you'll need to setup an SSH server on your
wife's
> computer so that you can get use putty to connect to it.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday 30 November 2004 06:52, Wayne Ivory wrote:
> > Well, I've been trying to figure this out on-and-off for about a
year
> > now.  As you may have guessed it's not mission-critical but I would
like
> > to get it working.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was inspired to have another crack at it by the recent thread from
> > Kevin Taylor about trying to get VNC working over the internet to
> > support his mother's PC.  His situation is similar (but not quite
the
> > same) as my own, so let me take a step back and spell out all the
> > circumstances.
> >
> >
> >
> > My wife uses our PC at home to access the stock market.  She has
never
> > been particularly proficient with computers but has become quite
good at
> > what she needs to do for the stock market stuff.  However when
something
> > unusual happens she is generally at a loss as to how to "fix" it and
I'm
> > at the other end of the phone trying to figure out what's wrong
(she's a
> > wonderful woman but has no patience for misbehaving computers and
her
> > solution to unexpected dialog boxes is to push the "go away" button
-
> > generally without reading the associated message).
> >
> >
> >
> > The PC at home is running Windows ME and gets a dynamic ip address
from
> > our internet service provider.  At work I use a Windows XP SP1
computer
> > behind a corporate firewall/proxy and although technically I have a
> > dynamic ip address served via DHCP, in practice it typically never
> > changes.  I work in the IT department as a programmer but my
knowledge
> > of network stuff is limited.  My boss has said he's happy for me to
> > support the wife through VNC but he doesn't want to open any "extra"
> > ports through the firewall for security reasons.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've read about tunnelling with Putty but most of the doco and faq's
> > seems to assume there is a Linux server at the other end.  May I ask
for
> > suggestions as to what to do at both ends in my particular
circumstances
> > please?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Wayne Ivory
> >
> > IT Analyst Programmer
> >
> > Wespine Industries Pty Ltd
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Security

[Robert Michaud]

Is it possible to temporarily stop all login attempts for 15 to 30 minutes
after several login failures. (5 or more)

This would stop hackers from using unattended programs to try to break-in.
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VNC for Red Hat

[Chris]

I'm having difficulty installing VNC for Linux on my Red Hat 9 box. Are
there resources out there for Linux newbies, like me, that will explain
how to do this? Thanks
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Re: Connection Problem

[Angelo Sarto]

Does you boss have windows XP service pack 2 installed?   The default
firewall will block inbound connections for vnc.

additionally if she/he has a router that would block it too.


--Angelo


On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:33:29 -0500, JJET7504 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am new to vnc and was hoping that I could get some help with my problem.
> 
>   I downloaded vnc on my computer at home as well as my boss on his computer
> at his house. He is running window xp profession and I have the xp home.  He
> is able to access my computer and is able to call me into his computer but I
> can not get through to his.  When I pull up VNC Viewer to put his IP address
> my is in there, my IP comes up automatically and I have to delete it and put
> his in (not sure if this might be the cause). Once I have his in and I try to
> connect I get the following everytime.unable to connect to host -
> connection timed out (10060).   I'm not very computer savy so any help is very
> much appreciated.
> 
>   Many thanksTara
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Re: Issue with VNC and PC Anywhere

[tim]

* Dave.Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-11-30 18:58]:
> I had VNC running fine for a number of months then I installed PC Anywhere
> on my machine.  Once I did this I had issue with the machine and VNC now
> locks up when I try to use it.  I have removed PC Anywhere and have also
> tried removing and reinstalling VNC but I have not had any luck.
> 
> I am running on Windows 2000.
> 
What version of pcAnywhere are you using?  I have used VNC v3 and v4
with pcAnywhere 10.5 on the same Win2000Pro host machine for a long time
with no problems whatsoever, even if logged in with both at once (which
I usually am).  I haven't tried the just-released pcAywhere 11.5 yet.

As for uninstalling pcAnywhere...well it's a kinda nasty beast about
that.  Simple uninstallation Leaves behind registry entries and stuff.
There's a paper in the Symantec website knowledge base that describes
how to completely erase all traces of pcAnywhere.  If you're comfortable
editing the registry, you might try that I suppose.

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cannot run cadence projmgr remotely with VNC

[Tiffany Chiang]

I am trying to access Cadence projmgr
thourhg VNC and I could never invoke it
successfully. I had no problem running other
Cadence program like concepthdl and allegro.
After I invoke projmgr, it gives me the 'Project
Manager Product choice' screen, but
after I select 'PCB Librarian Expert', all
I got is a little white screen, nothing ever
comes up after that. There is no
error message or anything. Can anybody help ?

Thanks
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RE: Simple .exe a remote client can run for support?

[Wall, John]

Hi Andrew,

I did a Google search "batch sleep windows 98" and yes apparently the
SLEEP.EXE is located on the Windows 98 SE Resource Kit. It wasn't on the
First Edition as I just looked. I will have look at a SE cd when I get to
work.

I remember using a SLEEP utility in Windows 95 and completely forgot about
it. I also am in need of slowing things down within a batch file.

John

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> 
> John Aldrich wrote:
> > How about a "sleep" command in the batchfile
> >
> 
> Would that DOS (especially that in Win98) had such a useful command!
> 
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Re: Simple .exe a remote client can run for support?

[Andrew Borland]

John Aldrich wrote:
> How about a "sleep" command in the batchfile
>

Would that DOS (especially that in Win98) had such a useful command!

Regards,  Andrew Borland (UK)
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Connection Problem

[JJET7504]

I am new to vnc and was hoping that I could get some help with my problem.

  I downloaded vnc on my computer at home as well as my boss on his computer
at his house. He is running window xp profession and I have the xp home.  He
is able to access my computer and is able to call me into his computer but I
can not get through to his.  When I pull up VNC Viewer to put his IP address
my is in there, my IP comes up automatically and I have to delete it and put
his in (not sure if this might be the cause). Once I have his in and I try to
connect I get the following everytime.unable to connect to host -
connection timed out (10060).   I'm not very computer savy so any help is very
much appreciated.

  Many thanksTara
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Question about VNC viewer

[Artem Ossipov]

Hello!

Excuse my disturbing you. I am writing with reference in connection with the 
present situation.
 It's like this. We would like to use VNC software, but we have one question. 
Your software can view and interact with one computer from any other computer. 
In particularly, VNC viewer displays ALL desktop of a remote computer (VNC 
server).
Can I do so, that my VNC viewer displays, for example, left top quarter of a 
remote desktop? 
Or another area of a desktop? 
We would be grateful if you could answer this question.

Thank you,

Artem Ossipov 
Software Developer 
PixelPoint 

688 Chrislea Rd
Vaughan, Ontario, L4L 8K9
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Re: Issue with connecting to Vnc via router.

[Scott C. Best]

Mark:
Heya. You will get "error 10061" if you try to connect
via port-forwarding to a VNC Server on your LAN from a VNC Viewer
that's *also* on the same LAN. That is, the port forwarding you
did for ports 5800 and 5900 will work for everywhere on the Internet
(like where GoToMyVNC connects from) *except* for on your LAN. On
your LAN, you'll have to use the "LAN address" (eg, 192.168.x.y)
rather than the .myserver.org address.
Also, if you open a web-browser to ".myserver.org"
you should get the "router logon box". To get to the VNC Server
via a web-browser (again from *outside* of your LAN) you'll have
to use ".myserver.org:5800".
Hope that helps!
-Scott
 I am having issues similar to many people that I have read here, I have an
Edimax Router/hub and a Dynamic IP address. I am using myserver.org to
obtain an effective static IP address, I have configured the router to port
forward 5800 and 5900 to 5800 and 5900 on a machine on the LAN side of the
router, I can access the Vnc server via a vnc viewer on another machine on
the network. When I try to goto the website address of .myserver.org:0
it comes up with a connection error of 10061 which means it is not even
getting to the password authentication. If I got to .myserver.org it
comes up with my router logon box, so not sure whats going on here. I went
to gotomyvnc.com and confirmed that the port of 5900 is open
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RE: Simple .exe a remote client can run for support?

[John Aldrich]

How about a "sleep" command in the batchfile, say "sleep 30" or something
like that to give WinVNC time to launch.

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From: Andrew Borland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:00 PM
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Subject: Re: Simple .exe a remote client can run for support?


Angelo,

I have been attempting to follow your suggested batch file:

> rem start batchfile
> start winvnc4.exe
> winvnc4.exe -connect www.xxx.yyy.zzz::aa
>

but I am finding that the "winvnc4.exe -connect" is being executed so 
soon after the "start winvnc4" command, that the server isn't actually 
up and running in time to service the connect request.

Have you ever observed anything similar?  Have you any suggestions on 
how to slow things down a bit?

Regards,  Andrew Borland (UK)
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Re: Simple .exe a remote client can run for support?

[Andrew Borland]

Angelo,

I have been attempting to follow your suggested batch file:

> rem start batchfile
> start winvnc4.exe
> winvnc4.exe -connect www.xxx.yyy.zzz::aa
>

but I am finding that the "winvnc4.exe -connect" is being executed so 
soon after the "start winvnc4" command, that the server isn't actually 
up and running in time to service the connect request.

Have you ever observed anything similar?  Have you any suggestions on 
how to slow things down a bit?

Regards,  Andrew Borland (UK)
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Issue with VNC and PC Anywhere

[Dave.Davis]

I had VNC running fine for a number of months then I installed PC Anywhere
on my machine.  Once I did this I had issue with the machine and VNC now
locks up when I try to use it.  I have removed PC Anywhere and have also
tried removing and reinstalling VNC but I have not had any luck.

I am running on Windows 2000.

Thanks
Dave Davis
Yellow Roadway Technologies
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Re: From Work to Home (again!!)

[Angelo Sarto]

TO make a connection between to firewalled computers there are only
two methods that I know of:

1.  use a proxy or pass through service, there are a few of theese out
there but they do cost money.

2.  modify either firewall.  This one is important in order to get vnc
to work it is very likely that you only need to change one firewall.  
If your boss is uncomfortable perhaps you could change your home
firewall. ***

***What jerry is saying is that some connections may be blocked in an
outbound direction.  (Un)fortunatley? many corporate firewalls are
only inbound blocking.  Many that I have come across will allow you to
run any protocol (e.g. as long as your computer is initiating the
connection.

I am not sure what the situation is in your case.


On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:36:13 +0100, Jerry Westrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Wayne...
> 
> First off you need to find out how you are going to get through your
> firewall.  Firewall is a generic term, And "corporate firewall" usually means
> "we don't want you to do anything but HTML".
> 
> So  if you are planning on using ssh (putty is an ssh client) to tunnel,
> you'll have to ask your BOSS if the "corporate firewall" allows ssh.
> 
> or I guess you could just try it and see.
> 
> But I doubt its open as it would be a huge hole in your "corporate firewall".
> 
> If you can use it, Then you'll need to setup an SSH server on your wife's
> computer so that you can get use putty to connect to it.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday 30 November 2004 06:52, Wayne Ivory wrote:
> > Well, I've been trying to figure this out on-and-off for about a year
> > now.  As you may have guessed it's not mission-critical but I would like
> > to get it working.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was inspired to have another crack at it by the recent thread from
> > Kevin Taylor about trying to get VNC working over the internet to
> > support his mother's PC.  His situation is similar (but not quite the
> > same) as my own, so let me take a step back and spell out all the
> > circumstances.
> >
> >
> >
> > My wife uses our PC at home to access the stock market.  She has never
> > been particularly proficient with computers but has become quite good at
> > what she needs to do for the stock market stuff.  However when something
> > unusual happens she is generally at a loss as to how to "fix" it and I'm
> > at the other end of the phone trying to figure out what's wrong (she's a
> > wonderful woman but has no patience for misbehaving computers and her
> > solution to unexpected dialog boxes is to push the "go away" button -
> > generally without reading the associated message).
> >
> >
> >
> > The PC at home is running Windows ME and gets a dynamic ip address from
> > our internet service provider.  At work I use a Windows XP SP1 computer
> > behind a corporate firewall/proxy and although technically I have a
> > dynamic ip address served via DHCP, in practice it typically never
> > changes.  I work in the IT department as a programmer but my knowledge
> > of network stuff is limited.  My boss has said he's happy for me to
> > support the wife through VNC but he doesn't want to open any "extra"
> > ports through the firewall for security reasons.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've read about tunnelling with Putty but most of the doco and faq's
> > seems to assume there is a Linux server at the other end.  May I ask for
> > suggestions as to what to do at both ends in my particular circumstances
> > please?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Wayne Ivory
> >
> > IT Analyst Programmer
> >
> > Wespine Industries Pty Ltd
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Re: Issue with connecting to Vnc via router.

[Jerry Westrick]

On Tuesday 30 November 2004 12:48, Gravesend Age Concern wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>   I am having issues similar to many people that I have read here, I have
> an Edimax Router/hub and a Dynamic IP address. I am using myserver.org to
> obtain an effective static IP address, I have configured the router to port
> forward 5800 and 5900 to 5800 and 5900 on a machine on the LAN side of the
> router, I can access the Vnc server via a vnc viewer on another machine on
> the network. When I try to goto the website address of .myserver.org:0

Upps, point your browser to .myserver.org:5800

Jerry
> it comes up with a connection error of 10061 which means it is not even
> getting to the password authentication. If I got to .myserver.org it
> comes up with my router logon box, so not sure whats going on here. I went
> to gotomyvnc.com and confirmed that the port of 5900 is open
>
>
>
> So any ideas??
>
>
>
> Mark N
>
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Issue with connecting to Vnc via router.

[Gravesend Age Concern]

Hi there,

  I am having issues similar to many people that I have read here, I have an
Edimax Router/hub and a Dynamic IP address. I am using myserver.org to
obtain an effective static IP address, I have configured the router to port
forward 5800 and 5900 to 5800 and 5900 on a machine on the LAN side of the
router, I can access the Vnc server via a vnc viewer on another machine on
the network. When I try to goto the website address of .myserver.org:0
it comes up with a connection error of 10061 which means it is not even
getting to the password authentication. If I got to .myserver.org it
comes up with my router logon box, so not sure whats going on here. I went
to gotomyvnc.com and confirmed that the port of 5900 is open



So any ideas??



Mark N


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how to compile source for ARM

[bheemesh v]

Hi,
I am a newbie to VNC.
My question is How to compile the source for ARM architecture.
I have all cross compiling toolchain inplacei have a SA1110
ARM CPU, i have a valid LINUX OS running it's application on it.

Now i need to have my VNCserver on this platform.
With VNC server source and the toolchain in hand , i need to copile
the source. I tried my bit in changing the Makefile of vnc-4.0 for
unix, but in vain.

Pls can anyone help me in this.
Thanks in advance.

Bheemesh.
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Re: From Work to Home (again!!)

[Jerry Westrick]

Hello Wayne...

First off you need to find out how you are going to get through your
firewall.  Firewall is a generic term, And "corporate firewall" usually means 
"we don't want you to do anything but HTML".

So  if you are planning on using ssh (putty is an ssh client) to tunnel, 
you'll have to ask your BOSS if the "corporate firewall" allows ssh.

or I guess you could just try it and see.

But I doubt its open as it would be a huge hole in your "corporate firewall".

If you can use it, Then you'll need to setup an SSH server on your wife's 
computer so that you can get use putty to connect to it.

Jerry


On Tuesday 30 November 2004 06:52, Wayne Ivory wrote:
> Well, I've been trying to figure this out on-and-off for about a year
> now.  As you may have guessed it's not mission-critical but I would like
> to get it working.
>
>
>
> I was inspired to have another crack at it by the recent thread from
> Kevin Taylor about trying to get VNC working over the internet to
> support his mother's PC.  His situation is similar (but not quite the
> same) as my own, so let me take a step back and spell out all the
> circumstances.
>
>
>
> My wife uses our PC at home to access the stock market.  She has never
> been particularly proficient with computers but has become quite good at
> what she needs to do for the stock market stuff.  However when something
> unusual happens she is generally at a loss as to how to "fix" it and I'm
> at the other end of the phone trying to figure out what's wrong (she's a
> wonderful woman but has no patience for misbehaving computers and her
> solution to unexpected dialog boxes is to push the "go away" button -
> generally without reading the associated message).
>
>
>
> The PC at home is running Windows ME and gets a dynamic ip address from
> our internet service provider.  At work I use a Windows XP SP1 computer
> behind a corporate firewall/proxy and although technically I have a
> dynamic ip address served via DHCP, in practice it typically never
> changes.  I work in the IT department as a programmer but my knowledge
> of network stuff is limited.  My boss has said he's happy for me to
> support the wife through VNC but he doesn't want to open any "extra"
> ports through the firewall for security reasons.
>
>
>
> I've read about tunnelling with Putty but most of the doco and faq's
> seems to assume there is a Linux server at the other end.  May I ask for
> suggestions as to what to do at both ends in my particular circumstances
> please?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Wayne Ivory
>
> IT Analyst Programmer
>
> Wespine Industries Pty Ltd
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