Re: A few problems after upgrade 10.8.5 to 10.10 Yosemite

[Matt Falvey]

 discussed I did not 
>> install the 10.10.5, even though it was there, that was the only thing left 
>> in the Upgrades.
>> 
>> I repaired permissions and let Mail and iTunes update.
>> 
>> Aperture and iPhoto still have the grey no entry sign across the front of 
>> their icon and I thought I would wait to get some type on instruction from 
>> you as to how to proceed with this problem for these two, or one as they 
>> share the same database, before I try to open either of them?  
>> 
>> So far the rest of the installation has gone really well.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Matt.
>> 
>> On 19 Dec 2015, Ronda Brown mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote
>> 
>> Hi Matt,
>> 
>> Power cycle everything, Modem - Router - Mac
>> Check Network settings
>> Check you have correct location Date & Time in System Preferences.
>> Time Zone 'Set time zone automatically using current location'.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 Dec 2015, at 8:10 PM, Matt Falvey >> <mailto:mmfal...@bigpond.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I have just ran the install for Yosemite to upgrade from 10.8.5. 
>>> (Thanks Ronni.) Most things seem to have worked out well.
>>> 
>>> I have been working my way through Ronni?s list from ?Prepare to Upgrade to 
>>> Yosemite?, after Spotlight had finished indexing, I tried to open Software 
>>> Update but could not connect. I had to enter the WPA password into System 
>>> Preferences to get the WiFi working again, no big deal there.
>>> 
>>> When that was finished I still could not get Software Update to open, 
>>> ?Cannot Connect to the App Store?. I tried, opening the ?firewall?, logging 
>>> in and out of my Apple account, going to the Keychain to see if I had any 
>>> Verisign login Certificates and a host of other possibilities, none could 
>>> get the connection to open. Any ideas as to how to fix it so I can do the 
>>> upgrades?  (I had intended to only do the updates for this 10.10 version as 
>>> Ronni suggested and then run the 10.10.5 later when everything is working 
>>> ship shape.)
>>> 
>>> Safari is working fine as is Mail. I did notice though that the icons for 
>>> Aperture and iPhoto have a grey do not enter icon over them. So I did not 
>>> attempt to open them before posting her to find out what I should do about 
>>> them before hand?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Matt.
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Re: iMac & mavericks: start up disk problems

[gdorn@me]

Hi Neil
thanks for the suggestion.
I'd agree- be much easer to put in a 2TB hardisk now migrate over to it and run 
it as a dual drive setup. We were hoping that the damaged harddrive would be 
replaced straight away, but unfortunately for us, it evidently has to be 
returned to manufacture first (Seagate).

We've only just have enough money to do SSD  or the HD at the moment  not both. 
- and figured that a SSD would be a better investement for now.

If we can get the drive off this week - hopefully by the time my Wife gets back 
into here work seriously again ( mid Jan) the replacement may have arrived.

chow

gary dorn
gd...@mac.com



On 19/12/2015, at 8:48 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

> Hi Gary,
> 
> If it was me
> 
> First think about how you want your system to be finally organised when the 
> replacement HD arrives – eg. If it was me, I might be thinking about just 
> having the OS on the SDD for snappy operation and then putting all my data on 
> the new internal HD.
> 
> If that suits you, given how cheap external HDs are, I would probably buy an 
> external HD of appropriate size and put all the data on it and run with that, 
> as an external drive, until replacement HD arrives.
> 
> At that point clone the external HD to the internal HD and carry on as 
> normal. Reformat/erase the now redundant external HD and use as best suits 
> you – data backup, clone, whatever (a spare HD is ALWAYS useful).
> 
> Probably easier than trying to decide what you can/can’t do without and 
> trying to shoehorn it onto the SDD.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 19/12/15 16:52, gdorn@me at gd...@me.com wrote:
> 
>> Howdy 
>> Further to the problems we've had with our iMac harddisk, it is evidently a 
>> Seagate 2TB purchased+ installed feb 2013 by Macworx Joondalup. They have 
>> confirmed that its a dead harddrive and is still in warranty ( 3yrs) - 
>> return to base.
>> 
>> So we had them install a 250 GB SDD in the Superdrive bay, so we can install 
>> a replacement harddrive in the HD bay when it arrives .
>> 
>> Question
>> 
>> The files in time machine are total 650 GB - too much for the 250 GB SDD!
>> 
>> In migration assistant - its has the option to select which files/folders to 
>> migrate.
>> 
>> What is the minimum files/folders can we migrate from the time machine to 
>> the SDD so that we can atleast use the important business files.
>> 
>> hmm there are other questions attached to this - I might just start another 
>> thread on it.
>> 
>> chow
>> 
>> gary dorn
>> gd...@mac.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 07/12/2015, at 3:47 PM, gdorn@me wrote:
>> 
>>> Further to the advice noted below, how do I go about checking  that the 
>>> Time Machine backup we supposedly have actually exists and is accessible. 
>>> I say this because for a while, the time machine had be turned off and I 
>>> frequently find that the usb cable unplugged.
>>> 
>>> So I would like to check the status of time machine before doing anything 
>>> else.
>>> 
>>> How would I do this - I have access to a macbook with Mavericksor Yosemite 
>>> and a macpro with Lion
>>> 
>>> chow
>>> 
>>> gary dorn
>>> gd...@mac.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 07/12/2015, at 2:14 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
>>> 
 Re: iMac & mavericks: start up disk problems 
 Hi Gary,
 
 Without wanting to be pessimistic – it sounds very similar to when I had a 
 hard drive fail.
 
 You will find out when you (try to) reformat your disk:
 If the format is just badly corrupted – it should reformat and check out OK
 If the disk has more severe problems – it will probably continue to give 
 you error messages (cannot reformat or similar).
 
 Before you start - 
 If you are confident you have back-ups of everything – and, hopefully, 
 from your post, this IS the case – you can get into the reformating.
 If you are NOT confident you have back-ups of everything – don’t do 
 anything until you have looked at methods of recovering data from damaged 
 disks. (too big a subject to cover here & I’m no expert – but there is 
 info out there...) there is much more chance of recovery if you have not 
 tried anything else first.
 
 Obviously to do a complete reformat of the internal drive you will need to 
 either boot from another drive or do it from another computer with this 
 one in Target disk mode (is this still possible with non-firewire 
 machines?)
 
 Many people recommend doing a secure erase when reformatting after 
 problems like this – I believe the action of writing the zeros to every 
 segment helps in identifying and mapping any problem sections.
 
 
 Others with more experience/expertise may have more to add/suggest.
 
 
 
 HTH
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil
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migrate assistant for 2TB hardisk to new 250 GB SDD transfer

[gdorn@me]

Howdy

Following on from the previous thread about our dead hard drive problems, we 
had installed a smaller 250 GB SDD.

Thus until we have the original 2TB hard dive replaced, we need to operate from 
a smaller file/folder set.

I've read that creating a new user and then copy /paste select folders to that 
user from the Time Machine backup will cause permission/ownership issues,   
therefore we are better of using Migration Assistant.   ie 
Applications>Utilities>Migration Assistant


My first look at Migration Assistant saids that we can select what to transfer 
over ie which Users and which folders.

migration assistant says to select from the following:

Applications 28 GB
User 1 9.8 GB
User 2 93 GB
User 3 628 MB
user 4 335 GB -  ( this is the one we want to keep going) consists of 
Library 35 GB
docs 23 GB
music 7.6 GB
Pics 248 GB
other data 20mb

User 5 30 GB
User 6 20 GB
User 7 116 GB
 
Other Files and Folders 2.38 GB
Computer and Network setting 39MB




 - we are particularly keen and getting Sticky Notes over for one  User 4 ( 
normally kept in Users/Library/stickies database  - but is not visible on the 
Time Machine backup - there is no User>Library folder) along with Work folder, 
Email, Contacts


What would be the minimum folders to migrate over ? 

What happens if we only do a partial migration ?

Hope the above make sense.

chow

gary dorn
gd...@mac.com



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Re: iMac & mavericks: start up disk problems

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Gary,

If it was me

First think about how you want your system to be finally organised when the
replacement HD arrives ­ eg. If it was me, I might be thinking about just
having the OS on the SDD for snappy operation and then putting all my data
on the new internal HD.

If that suits you, given how cheap external HDs are, I would probably buy an
external HD of appropriate size and put all the data on it and run with
that, as an external drive, until replacement HD arrives.

At that point clone the external HD to the internal HD and carry on as
normal. Reformat/erase the now redundant external HD and use as best suits
you ­ data backup, clone, whatever (a spare HD is ALWAYS useful).

Probably easier than trying to decide what you can/can¹t do without and
trying to shoehorn it onto the SDD.

Just a thought.


HTH




Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com








on 19/12/15 16:52, gdorn@me at gd...@me.com wrote:

> Howdy 
> Further to the problems we've had with our iMac harddisk, it is evidently a
> Seagate 2TB purchased+ installed feb 2013 by Macworx Joondalup. They have
> confirmed that its a dead harddrive and is still in warranty ( 3yrs) - return
> to base.
> 
> So we had them install a 250 GB SDD in the Superdrive bay, so we can install a
> replacement harddrive in the HD bay when it arrives .
> 
> Question
> 
> The files in time machine are total 650 GB - too much for the 250 GB SDD!
> 
> In migration assistant - its has the option to select which files/folders to
> migrate.
> 
> What is the minimum files/folders can we migrate from the time machine to the
> SDD so that we can atleast use the important business files.
> 
> hmm there are other questions attached to this - I might just start another
> thread on it.
> 
> chow
> 
> gary dorn
> gd...@mac.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/12/2015, at 3:47 PM, gdorn@me wrote:
> 
>> Further to the advice noted below, how do I go about checking  that the Time
>> Machine backup we supposedly have actually exists and is accessible.
>> I say this because for a while, the time machine had be turned off and I
>> frequently find that the usb cable unplugged.
>> 
>> So I would like to check the status of time machine before doing anything
>> else.
>> 
>> How would I do this - I have access to a macbook with Mavericksor Yosemite
>> and a macpro with Lion
>> 
>> chow
>> 
>> gary dorn
>> gd...@mac.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 07/12/2015, at 2:14 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
>> 
>>> Re: iMac & mavericks: start up disk problems
>>> Hi Gary,
>>> 
>>> Without wanting to be pessimistic ­ it sounds very similar to when I had a
>>> hard drive fail.
>>> 
>>> You will find out when you (try to) reformat your disk:
>>> * If the format is just badly corrupted ­ it should reformat and check out
>>> OK 
>>> * If the disk has more severe problems ­ it will probably continue to give
>>> you error messages (cannot reformat or similar).
>>> 
>>> Before you start -
>>> * If you are confident you have back-ups of everything ­ and, hopefully,
>>> from your post, this IS the case ­ you can get into the reformating.
>>> * If you are NOT confident you have back-ups of everything ­ don¹t do
>>> anything until you have looked at methods of recovering data from damaged
>>> disks. (too big a subject to cover here & I¹m no expert ­ but there is info
>>> out there...) there is much more chance of recovery if you have not tried
>>> anything else first.
>>> 
>>> Obviously to do a complete reformat of the internal drive you will need to
>>> either boot from another drive or do it from another computer with this one
>>> in Target disk mode (is this still possible with non-firewire machines?)
>>> 
>>> Many people recommend doing a secure erase when reformatting after problems
>>> like this ­ I believe the action of writing the zeros to every segment helps
>>> in identifying and mapping any problem sections.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Others with more experience/expertise may have more to add/suggest.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil

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Re: A few problems after upgrade 10.8.5 to 10.10 Yosemite

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Matt,

As you were aware you require iPhoto v 9.6.1 & Aperture 3.6 in Yosemite.
Apple previously stated that Aperture and iPhoto will remain functional if they 
were already installed.
But both installed iPhoto & Aperture had to be the latest updates. 
iPhoto v 9.6.1 & Aperture 3.6
You mentioned that you have iPhoto v 9.4.3 & Aperture 3.4.5 so they need to be 
updated.
I assume that when you went to "the App Store and downloaded 3 or 4 software 
updates" that iPhoto & Aperture were not showing?
Aperture and iPhoto were removed from the Mac App Store and are no longer 
available for download.
With their disappearance from the Mac App Store, however, users are unlikely to 
get future updates.

After you update to 10.10.5 you will migrate your iPhoto & Aperture Libraries 
to Photos which came in the 10.10.3 update.
Your old library won't be converted, just imported, so you can still open it in 
Aperture or iPhoto if you like (though once you import, if you do anything new 
with that library in Aperture, it won't carry over to the Photos version). The 
same with iPhoto.

The new Photos library references the same master images as your old library, 
so you don't need the space to store images twice. It also makes for an 
incredibly efficient migration process.

So how can you update iPhoto & Aperture?
If you purchased from the App Store.
First try this:
Go to the App Store and check out the Purchases List. 
If iPhoto is there then it will be v9.6.1 - If Aperture is there it should be 
v3.6

If iPhoto is under Purchases - Quit the App Store.
Then:
1. Delete (Move to Trash,but don’t empty) all versions of the iPhoto.app that's 
on your hard drive.  
Induce any alias files for them as well.  
2. Go back to the Purchases section at the App Store and download iPhoto 9.6.1.
You might find you need to Sign Out and then Sign back In to your Account 
to change the ‘Open’ to ‘Install’ or 'Download’ beside iPhoto
3. Click Download
4. Install iPhoto

If Aperture was in Purchases - you might need to do things a little differently:
Then:
1. Uninstall Aperture. 
Go to finder; applications, find Aperture. 
Click on Aperture, and look above to Action, click on that and click on ‘Move 
to Trash’.
2. Open the App Store
3. Go to the Featured tab in the app store
4. Click on Account which is on the right side of the page.
 A box comes up for you to put in your password! Don't put it in. 
5. Sign out.
6. Go back to Account, and Sign In. 
7. Go to purchases. You will now should see Install to the right of the 
Aperture Icon
8. Install it again 

Unfortunately these are the problems you experience when you stay too far 
behind in OS X upgrades.
Post back with your results please.

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 19 Dec 2015, at 2:11 PM, Matt Falvey  wrote:
> 
> HI Ronni, I have done all of those and have managed to get the App Store 
> online and downloaded 3 or 4 software updates. As we discussed I did not 
> install the 10.10.5, even though it was there, that was the only thing left 
> in the Upgrades.
> 
> I repaired permissions and let Mail and iTunes update.
> 
> Aperture and iPhoto still have the grey no entry sign across the front of 
> their icon and I thought I would wait to get some type on instruction from 
> you as to how to proceed with this problem for these two, or one as they 
> share the same database, before I try to open either of them?  
> 
> So far the rest of the installation has gone really well.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Matt.
> 
> On 19 Dec 2015, Ronda Brown mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Power cycle everything, Modem - Router - Mac
> Check Network settings
> Check you have correct location Date & Time in System Preferences.
> Time Zone 'Set time zone automatically using current location'.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 18 Dec 2015, at 8:10 PM, Matt Falvey > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I have just ran the install for Yosemite to upgrade from 10.8.5. (Thanks 
>> Ronni.) Most things seem to have worked out well.
>> 
>> I have been working my way through Ronni?s list from ?Prepare to Upgrade to 
>> Yosemite?, after Spotlight had finished indexing, I tried to open Software 
>> Update but could not connect. I had to enter the WPA password into System 
>> Preferences to get the WiFi working again, no big deal there.
>> 
>> When that was finished I still could not get Software Update to open, 
>> ?Cannot Connect to the App Store?. I tried, opening the ?firewall?, logging 
>> in and out of my Apple account, going to the Keychain to see if I had any 
>> Verisign login Certificates and a host of other possibilities, none could 
>> get the connection to open. Any ideas as to how to fix it so I can do the 
>> upgrades?  (I had intended to only do the updates for this 10.10 version as 
>> Ronni suggested and then run the 10.10.5 later when everything is working 
>> ship shape.)
>> 
>> Safari is working fine as is Mail. I did notice though that the icons for 
>> Ap

Re: iMac & mavericks: start up disk problems

[gdorn@me]

Howdy 
Further to the problems we've had with our iMac harddisk, it is evidently a 
Seagate 2TB purchased+ installed feb 2013 by Macworx Joondalup. They have 
confirmed that its a dead harddrive and is still in warranty ( 3yrs) - return 
to base.

So we had them install a 250 GB SDD in the Superdrive bay, so we can install a 
replacement harddrive in the HD bay when it arrives .

Question

The files in time machine are total 650 GB - too much for the 250 GB SDD!

In migration assistant - its has the option to select which files/folders to 
migrate.

What is the minimum files/folders can we migrate from the time machine to the 
SDD so that we can atleast use the important business files.

hmm there are other questions attached to this - I might just start another 
thread on it.

chow

gary dorn
gd...@mac.com



On 07/12/2015, at 3:47 PM, gdorn@me wrote:

> Further to the advice noted below, how do I go about checking  that the Time 
> Machine backup we supposedly have actually exists and is accessible. 
> I say this because for a while, the time machine had be turned off and I 
> frequently find that the usb cable unplugged.
> 
> So I would like to check the status of time machine before doing anything 
> else.
> 
> How would I do this - I have access to a macbook with Mavericksor Yosemite 
> and a macpro with Lion
> 
> chow
> 
> gary dorn
> gd...@mac.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/12/2015, at 2:14 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> Hi Gary,
>> 
>> Without wanting to be pessimistic – it sounds very similar to when I had a 
>> hard drive fail.
>> 
>> You will find out when you (try to) reformat your disk:
>> If the format is just badly corrupted – it should reformat and check out OK
>> If the disk has more severe problems – it will probably continue to give you 
>> error messages (cannot reformat or similar).
>> 
>> Before you start - 
>> If you are confident you have back-ups of everything – and, hopefully, from 
>> your post, this IS the case – you can get into the reformating.
>> If you are NOT confident you have back-ups of everything – don’t do anything 
>> until you have looked at methods of recovering data from damaged disks. (too 
>> big a subject to cover here & I’m no expert – but there is info out 
>> there...) there is much more chance of recovery if you have not tried 
>> anything else first.
>> 
>> Obviously to do a complete reformat of the internal drive you will need to 
>> either boot from another drive or do it from another computer with this one 
>> in Target disk mode (is this still possible with non-firewire machines?)
>> 
>> Many people recommend doing a secure erase when reformatting after problems 
>> like this – I believe the action of writing the zeros to every segment helps 
>> in identifying and mapping any problem sections.
>> 
>> 
>> Others with more experience/expertise may have more to add/suggest.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> on 7/12/15 12:49, gary dorn at gd...@me.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Howdy , 
>>> iMac 10,2 late 2009
>>> 2 TB (600 mb free)
>>> 8mb ram
>>> Mac OS  mavericks since September ( updated from snow leopard , which ran 
>>> really well for 3 years)
>>> 
>>> since Yesterday morning we've had startup problems
>>> At first startup , was able to login, but then spiral of death wouldn't,t 
>>> cease, so forced shutdown ( was in a rush)
>>> Upon restart starts into HD recovery only 
>>> 
>>> I've tried different start up options, i.e. Single user, Pram, select start 
>>> up disk, to no obvious effect
>>> I'm currently in HD recovery, disk utility 
>>> In Disk utility says , verifying "disk0s2" says disk needs repair
>>> 
>>> After some 60 mins disk utility says as a dialogue box.
>>> "Stopped repairing disk0s2  - can't repair disk - backup, reformat disk and 
>>> restore your backed up files."
>>> Behind that  shows details of disk repair
>>> Repairing file system
>>> Invalid content in journal
>>> Checking journal HFS Plus volume
>>> Catalog file entry not found for extent
>>> The volume could not be verified completely
>>> Invalid content in journal
>>> File system check exit code is 8.
>>> Updating boot support partitions for the volume as required.
>>> Error: disk utility can't repair this disk e disk, restore your 
>>> backed up files.
>>> 
>>> Ahhh
>>> We have a time machine backup 
>>> We don't have a Mavericks usb installer ( was installed via a Mavericks 
>>> installer copy put on hardisk)
>>> I have a lion usb installer
>>> 
>>> Gary Dorn
>>> On iPad 2
>>> 
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