Re: mavericks on unsupported mac pro

2014-02-21 Thread Dark1 
Sorry I forgot to add one more thing that you might consider to be important.

I’m not sure whether doing something like this would be against Apple’s EULA.  
I know that running a hackintosh certainly is against their EULA and that this 
specific hack has similarities to running a hackintosh so if this was important 
to you I guess you’d have to read the EULA which would probably take a very 
long time.

Regards
Ruben

> Hi Gary.
> 
> I agree with what Daniel and Ronni have already said about being very 
> cautious when it comes to these things but personally, if it were me, I’d be 
> happy to try it out on the strict provisor that I had the time to commit to 
> making it work and I would definitely do it on a completely separate HDD in 
> addition to having bootable backups.
> 
> I haven’t spent a great deal of time looking into this specific kind of hack 
> but I do have a reasonable understanding about the hackintosh world (booting 
> Mac OS on windows hardware).  From what gather this hack is based around 
> using a custom boot loader (which resides on a hidden partition of your HDD 
> that your install is contained on) because you need to have a 64bit one for 
> mavericks and the native one is only 32 bit.  The other part of it probably 
> involves changing some info so that the computer thinks it’s a MacPro 2.1 and 
> therefore supported by mavericks.
> 
> I wouldn’t expect there to be any potential for cross over trouble if you 
> kept everything isolated on separate drives and had an extensive backup 
> system but I would definitely want to fully research what I was doing before 
> doing it.  Daniel has already suggested that you might be able to get the 
> features you want from ML which would be supported on your machine natively 
> and, as Ronni advised, you should really consider if it’s going to be worth 
> all the effort and the potential risk (even if very small) if you are using 
> this machine for work.
> 
> Hope this helps
> Ruben
> 
>> Hi Gary
>> 
>> Yes, sometimes pays to read the forums for those sort of things before doing 
>> it,..as that gives you an idea of the "damages" it can cause.
>> 
>> That MacPro will take Lion (10.7.5) OK, which would then give you iCloud 
>> syncing and a few other features as well, so that can be an option.
>> Otherwise to get syncing with 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) you can do it in a round 
>> about way to get it "working"
>> http://sayzlim.net/sync-icloud-contacts-calendar-snow-leopard/
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5 
>> 
>> ---
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>> MacWizardry
>> 
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>> On 21/02/2014, at 4:59 PM, gdorn  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 21/02/2014, at 3:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Gary,
 
 You Mac Pro was Introduced August 2006 - Discontinued Jan. 2008.
 The Maximum (supported) OS is Mac OS X 10.7.5
 
 I personally would NOT recommend 'hacking' to install Mavericks on an 
 unsupported machine, especially if it is your work machine... 
 
 Read all the comments on the forums from people who have attempted this.
 If you do decide to attempt any of the below 'hacks', make sure you backup 
 first... have backups which include a bootable backup (& test you can boot 
 from your backup) of your current system.
 
>>> I admit I haven't read all the forum comments.
>>> 
>>> Advice understood and accepted
>>> 
>>> The shiny black thermal tinny ( new mac pro) is looking kinda attractive.
>>> 
>>> ps I suppose there is no other way to have syncing with Snow leopard and 
>>> iCloud then?
>>> 
>>> chow
>>> 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 21 Feb 2014, at 2:22 pm, gdorn  wrote:
 
> Hi
> 
> I'm was making progress to install mavericks on macpro 1,1 (2- 2.66) 13 
> GB RAM,  ATI Radeon 5770 +  Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT- but alas the installer 
> says its unsupported.
> 
> A search suggest there are workarounds, with instructions on how to do it 
> vi a number of ways.
> 
>
> http://superuser.com/questions/704751/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-1-1-from-os-x-10-6-8-to-os-x-10-9-mavericks
> 
>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older_mac_pro_11_21_20062007/
> 
>http://retrocosm.net/2014/01/04/mac-pro-11-and-mavericks/
> 
>http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685804
> 
> 
> Is any of these methods a recommended thi

Re: mavericks on unsupported mac pro

2014-02-21 Thread Dark1 
Hi Gary.

I agree with what Daniel and Ronni have already said about being very cautious 
when it comes to these things but personally, if it were me, I’d be happy to 
try it out on the strict provisor that I had the time to commit to making it 
work and I would definitely do it on a completely separate HDD in addition to 
having bootable backups.

I haven’t spent a great deal of time looking into this specific kind of hack 
but I do have a reasonable understanding about the hackintosh world (booting 
Mac OS on windows hardware).  From what gather this hack is based around using 
a custom boot loader (which resides on a hidden partition of your HDD that your 
install is contained on) because you need to have a 64bit one for mavericks and 
the native one is only 32 bit.  The other part of it probably involves changing 
some info so that the computer thinks it’s a MacPro 2.1 and therefore supported 
by mavericks.

I wouldn’t expect there to be any potential for cross over trouble if you kept 
everything isolated on separate drives and had an extensive backup system but I 
would definitely want to fully research what I was doing before doing it.  
Daniel has already suggested that you might be able to get the features you 
want from ML which would be supported on your machine natively and, as Ronni 
advised, you should really consider if it’s going to be worth all the effort 
and the potential risk (even if very small) if you are using this machine for 
work.

Hope this helps
Ruben

> Hi Gary
> 
> Yes, sometimes pays to read the forums for those sort of things before doing 
> it,..as that gives you an idea of the "damages" it can cause.
> 
> That MacPro will take Lion (10.7.5) OK, which would then give you iCloud 
> syncing and a few other features as well, so that can be an option.
> Otherwise to get syncing with 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) you can do it in a round 
> about way to get it "working"
> http://sayzlim.net/sync-icloud-contacts-calendar-snow-leopard/
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5 
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. 
> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
> author be requested. 
> 
> On 21/02/2014, at 4:59 PM, gdorn  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 21/02/2014, at 3:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Gary,
>>> 
>>> You Mac Pro was Introduced August 2006 - Discontinued Jan. 2008.
>>> The Maximum (supported) OS is Mac OS X 10.7.5
>>> 
>>> I personally would NOT recommend 'hacking' to install Mavericks on an 
>>> unsupported machine, especially if it is your work machine... 
>>> 
>>> Read all the comments on the forums from people who have attempted this.
>>> If you do decide to attempt any of the below 'hacks', make sure you backup 
>>> first... have backups which include a bootable backup (& test you can boot 
>>> from your backup) of your current system.
>>> 
>> I admit I haven't read all the forum comments.
>> 
>> Advice understood and accepted
>> 
>> The shiny black thermal tinny ( new mac pro) is looking kinda attractive.
>> 
>> ps I suppose there is no other way to have syncing with Snow leopard and 
>> iCloud then?
>> 
>> chow
>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 21 Feb 2014, at 2:22 pm, gdorn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi
 
 I'm was making progress to install mavericks on macpro 1,1 (2- 2.66) 13 GB 
 RAM,  ATI Radeon 5770 +  Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT- but alas the installer 
 says its unsupported.
 
 A search suggest there are workarounds, with instructions on how to do it 
 vi a number of ways.
 

 http://superuser.com/questions/704751/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-1-1-from-os-x-10-6-8-to-os-x-10-9-mavericks
 

 http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older_mac_pro_11_21_20062007/
 
http://retrocosm.net/2014/01/04/mac-pro-11-and-mavericks/
 
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685804
 
 
 Is any of these methods a recommended thing to do, has anyone else  (on 
 this list) done it ?
 
 are there any dangers to running these hacks to get mavericks to install ?
 
 can I install it on a separate hardisk ( I have 3 installed)
 
 
 thanks for any advice or recommendations
 
 chow
 
 
 gary dorn
 gd...@mac.com
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Re: mavericks on unsupported mac pro

2014-02-21 Thread Daniel Kerr 
Hi Gary

Yes, sometimes pays to read the forums for those sort of things before doing 
it,..as that gives you an idea of the "damages" it can cause.

That MacPro will take Lion (10.7.5) OK, which would then give you iCloud 
syncing and a few other features as well, so that can be an option.
Otherwise to get syncing with 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) you can do it in a round 
about way to get it "working"
http://sayzlim.net/sync-icloud-contacts-calendar-snow-leopard/

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 5 

---
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: 
Web:   


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such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any 
information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept 
liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to 
be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be 
requested. 

On 21/02/2014, at 4:59 PM, gdorn  wrote:

> 
> On 21/02/2014, at 3:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi Gary,
>> 
>> You Mac Pro was Introduced August 2006 - Discontinued Jan. 2008.
>> The Maximum (supported) OS is Mac OS X 10.7.5
>> 
>> I personally would NOT recommend 'hacking' to install Mavericks on an 
>> unsupported machine, especially if it is your work machine... 
>> 
>> Read all the comments on the forums from people who have attempted this.
>> If you do decide to attempt any of the below 'hacks', make sure you backup 
>> first... have backups which include a bootable backup (& test you can boot 
>> from your backup) of your current system.
>> 
> I admit I haven't read all the forum comments.
> 
> Advice understood and accepted
> 
> The shiny black thermal tinny ( new mac pro) is looking kinda attractive.
> 
> ps I suppose there is no other way to have syncing with Snow leopard and 
> iCloud then?
> 
> chow
> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 21 Feb 2014, at 2:22 pm, gdorn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I'm was making progress to install mavericks on macpro 1,1 (2- 2.66) 13 GB 
>>> RAM,  ATI Radeon 5770 +  Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT- but alas the installer says 
>>> its unsupported.
>>> 
>>> A search suggest there are workarounds, with instructions on how to do it 
>>> vi a number of ways.
>>> 
>>>
>>> http://superuser.com/questions/704751/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-1-1-from-os-x-10-6-8-to-os-x-10-9-mavericks
>>> 
>>>
>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older_mac_pro_11_21_20062007/
>>> 
>>>http://retrocosm.net/2014/01/04/mac-pro-11-and-mavericks/
>>> 
>>>http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685804
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is any of these methods a recommended thing to do, has anyone else  (on 
>>> this list) done it ?
>>> 
>>> are there any dangers to running these hacks to get mavericks to install ?
>>> 
>>> can I install it on a separate hardisk ( I have 3 installed)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thanks for any advice or recommendations
>>> 
>>> chow
>>> 
>>> 
>>> gary dorn
>>> gd...@mac.com
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Re: mavericks on unsupported mac pro

2014-02-21 Thread gdorn 

On 21/02/2014, at 3:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Gary,
> 
> You Mac Pro was Introduced August 2006 - Discontinued Jan. 2008.
> The Maximum (supported) OS is Mac OS X 10.7.5
> 
> I personally would NOT recommend 'hacking' to install Mavericks on an 
> unsupported machine, especially if it is your work machine... 
> 
> Read all the comments on the forums from people who have attempted this.
> If you do decide to attempt any of the below 'hacks', make sure you backup 
> first... have backups which include a bootable backup (& test you can boot 
> from your backup) of your current system.
> 
I admit I haven't read all the forum comments.

Advice understood and accepted

The shiny black thermal tinny ( new mac pro) is looking kinda attractive.

ps I suppose there is no other way to have syncing with Snow leopard and iCloud 
then?

chow

> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 21 Feb 2014, at 2:22 pm, gdorn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I'm was making progress to install mavericks on macpro 1,1 (2- 2.66) 13 GB 
>> RAM,  ATI Radeon 5770 +  Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT- but alas the installer says 
>> its unsupported.
>> 
>> A search suggest there are workarounds, with instructions on how to do it vi 
>> a number of ways.
>> 
>>
>> http://superuser.com/questions/704751/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-1-1-from-os-x-10-6-8-to-os-x-10-9-mavericks
>> 
>>
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older_mac_pro_11_21_20062007/
>> 
>>http://retrocosm.net/2014/01/04/mac-pro-11-and-mavericks/
>> 
>>http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685804
>> 
>> 
>> Is any of these methods a recommended thing to do, has anyone else  (on this 
>> list) done it ?
>> 
>> are there any dangers to running these hacks to get mavericks to install ?
>> 
>> can I install it on a separate hardisk ( I have 3 installed)
>> 
>> 
>> thanks for any advice or recommendations
>> 
>> chow
>> 
>> 
>> gary dorn
>> gd...@mac.com
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Re: mavericks on unsupported mac pro

2014-02-20 Thread Ronda Brown 
Hi Gary,

You Mac Pro was Introduced August 2006 - Discontinued Jan. 2008.
The Maximum (supported) OS is Mac OS X 10.7.5

I personally would NOT recommend 'hacking' to install Mavericks on an 
unsupported machine, especially if it is your work machine... 

Read all the comments on the forums from people who have attempted this.
If you do decide to attempt any of the below 'hacks', make sure you backup 
first... have backups which include a bootable backup (& test you can boot from 
your backup) of your current system.

Cheers,
Ronni






> On 21 Feb 2014, at 2:22 pm, gdorn  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm was making progress to install mavericks on macpro 1,1 (2- 2.66) 13 GB 
> RAM,  ATI Radeon 5770 +  Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT- but alas the installer says 
> its unsupported.
> 
> A search suggest there are workarounds, with instructions on how to do it vi 
> a number of ways.
> 
>
> http://superuser.com/questions/704751/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-1-1-from-os-x-10-6-8-to-os-x-10-9-mavericks
> 
>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older_mac_pro_11_21_20062007/
> 
>http://retrocosm.net/2014/01/04/mac-pro-11-and-mavericks/
> 
>http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685804
> 
> 
> Is any of these methods a recommended thing to do, has anyone else  (on this 
> list) done it ?
> 
> are there any dangers to running these hacks to get mavericks to install ?
> 
> can I install it on a separate hardisk ( I have 3 installed)
> 
> 
> thanks for any advice or recommendations
> 
> chow
> 
> 
> gary dorn
> gd...@mac.com
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mavericks on unsupported mac pro

2014-02-20 Thread gdorn 
Hi

I'm was making progress to install mavericks on macpro 1,1 (2- 2.66) 13 GB RAM, 
 ATI Radeon 5770 +  Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT- but alas the installer says its 
unsupported.

A search suggest there are workarounds, with instructions on how to do it vi a 
number of ways.


http://superuser.com/questions/704751/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-1-1-from-os-x-10-6-8-to-os-x-10-9-mavericks


http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1rsp3q/install_mavericks_on_older_mac_pro_11_21_20062007/

http://retrocosm.net/2014/01/04/mac-pro-11-and-mavericks/

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1685804


Is any of these methods a recommended thing to do, has anyone else  (on this 
list) done it ?

are there any dangers to running these hacks to get mavericks to install ?

can I install it on a separate hardisk ( I have 3 installed)


thanks for any advice or recommendations

chow


gary dorn
gd...@mac.com



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