Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start
David, Iain, Thanks for your help. It's all good now, but one other question. New thread. On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Norm McMillan wrote: > Thanks. Told ya I was tired! :-) > > Norm > vk3xci > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Iain R. Learmonth > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 18/05/16 11:44, Norm McMillan wrote: >> > Iain, >> > tried >> > *sudo adduser myusername dialout* >> > got the expected response but still have to start xastir as root *sudo >> > xastir* to start the serial port. >> >> You will need to log out and log in again in order to have the new group >> membership take effect. >> >> Thanks, >> Iain. >> >> ___ >> Xastir mailing list >> Xastir@lists.xastir.org >> http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir >> > > ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start
Thanks. Told ya I was tired! :-) Norm vk3xci On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: > Hi, > > On 18/05/16 11:44, Norm McMillan wrote: > > Iain, > > tried > > *sudo adduser myusername dialout* > > got the expected response but still have to start xastir as root *sudo > > xastir* to start the serial port. > > You will need to log out and log in again in order to have the new group > membership take effect. > > Thanks, > Iain. > > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start
Hi, On 18/05/16 11:44, Norm McMillan wrote: > Iain, > tried > *sudo adduser myusername dialout* > got the expected response but still have to start xastir as root *sudo > xastir* to start the serial port. You will need to log out and log in again in order to have the new group membership take effect. Thanks, Iain. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start
Iain, tried *sudo adduser myusername dialout* got the expected response but still have to start xastir as root *sudo xastir* to start the serial port. It's been a long day so I'll look at it tomorrow. Thanks all for you help, at least I know the problem, if not the answer :-) Norm vk3xci On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:18 PM, David Lane wrote: > Yeah, I was only thinking about the serial port. No coffee yet. It's a > common thing to forget you need elevated privileges for serial access. One > of those hardwired responses. Yours is a much better answer. > > Thanks. > > > --- > David A. Lane, KG4GIY > EC/RO Prince William County ARES®/RACES > +1.703.628.3868 > http://www.pwcares.org/ > IM/Skype/Twitter: kg4giy > > > On May 18, 2016, at 6:12 AM, Iain R. Learmonth > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > >> On 18/05/16 11:08, David Lane wrote: > >> Are you in the root/wheel group? Serial needs to be started with root. > > > > :/ > > > > On Debian systems, and its derivatives like Ubuntu, you can do: > > > > sudo adduser YOURUSERNAME dialout > > > > The dialout group is allowed to access the serial ports (historically > > would have had a modem attached to them hence the name of the group). > > > > You should not need to be root to use a serial port, and this is pretty > > bad practice. > > > > In recent versions of the Xastir Debian package, you also do not need to > > be root to use the Linux kernel's AX.25 stack. You can add yourself to > > the xastir-ax25 group using the same command as long as you enabled > > non-root access when you installed the package. > > > > Thanks, > > Iain. > > > > ___ > > Xastir mailing list > > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start
Yeah, I was only thinking about the serial port. No coffee yet. It's a common thing to forget you need elevated privileges for serial access. One of those hardwired responses. Yours is a much better answer. Thanks. --- David A. Lane, KG4GIY EC/RO Prince William County ARES®/RACES +1.703.628.3868 http://www.pwcares.org/ IM/Skype/Twitter: kg4giy > On May 18, 2016, at 6:12 AM, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: > > Hi, > >> On 18/05/16 11:08, David Lane wrote: >> Are you in the root/wheel group? Serial needs to be started with root. > > :/ > > On Debian systems, and its derivatives like Ubuntu, you can do: > > sudo adduser YOURUSERNAME dialout > > The dialout group is allowed to access the serial ports (historically > would have had a modem attached to them hence the name of the group). > > You should not need to be root to use a serial port, and this is pretty > bad practice. > > In recent versions of the Xastir Debian package, you also do not need to > be root to use the Linux kernel's AX.25 stack. You can add yourself to > the xastir-ax25 group using the same command as long as you enabled > non-root access when you installed the package. > > Thanks, > Iain. > > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start
Kool David, all good now! Norm vk3xci On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Norm McMillan wrote: > Umm... no. Let me just try that > > Norm > vk3xci > > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:08 PM, David Lane wrote: > >> Are you in the root/wheel group? Serial needs to be started with root. >> >> >> --- >> David A. Lane, KG4GIY >> EC/RO Prince William County ARES®/RACES >> +1.703.628.3868 >> http://www.pwcares.org/ >> IM/Skype/Twitter: kg4giy >> >> > On May 18, 2016, at 5:50 AM, Norm McMillan wrote: >> > >> > OK, I'm no noob, more like a "born again", and it has been a few years >> so I >> > may be missing something. >> > Ubuntu 14.04 >> > Dell Optiplex 755 >> > Paccomm Tiny2 >> > xastir 2.0.0-2.1ubuntu1 >> > >> > The Internet interface starts and runs just fine >> > Serial port, not so much. When I try to start it just sits there. no >> error >> > message. >> > >> > Set up for >> > Serial TNC on /dev/ttyS0 >> > 9600 8N1 >> > tnc-startup.tnc2 >> > tnc-stop-sys >> > >> > Interestingly gtkterm finds and communicates with the tnc no problem >> using >> > thos prams., minicom not! >> > >> > I guess I'm missing something? >> > >> > Norm, vk3xci >> > ___ >> > Xastir mailing list >> > Xastir@lists.xastir.org >> > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir >> ___ >> Xastir mailing list >> Xastir@lists.xastir.org >> http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir >> > > ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start
Hi, On 18/05/16 11:08, David Lane wrote: > Are you in the root/wheel group? Serial needs to be started with root. :/ On Debian systems, and its derivatives like Ubuntu, you can do: sudo adduser YOURUSERNAME dialout The dialout group is allowed to access the serial ports (historically would have had a modem attached to them hence the name of the group). You should not need to be root to use a serial port, and this is pretty bad practice. In recent versions of the Xastir Debian package, you also do not need to be root to use the Linux kernel's AX.25 stack. You can add yourself to the xastir-ax25 group using the same command as long as you enabled non-root access when you installed the package. Thanks, Iain. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start
Umm... no. Let me just try that Norm vk3xci On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:08 PM, David Lane wrote: > Are you in the root/wheel group? Serial needs to be started with root. > > > --- > David A. Lane, KG4GIY > EC/RO Prince William County ARES®/RACES > +1.703.628.3868 > http://www.pwcares.org/ > IM/Skype/Twitter: kg4giy > > > On May 18, 2016, at 5:50 AM, Norm McMillan wrote: > > > > OK, I'm no noob, more like a "born again", and it has been a few years > so I > > may be missing something. > > Ubuntu 14.04 > > Dell Optiplex 755 > > Paccomm Tiny2 > > xastir 2.0.0-2.1ubuntu1 > > > > The Internet interface starts and runs just fine > > Serial port, not so much. When I try to start it just sits there. no > error > > message. > > > > Set up for > > Serial TNC on /dev/ttyS0 > > 9600 8N1 > > tnc-startup.tnc2 > > tnc-stop-sys > > > > Interestingly gtkterm finds and communicates with the tnc no problem > using > > thos prams., minicom not! > > > > I guess I'm missing something? > > > > Norm, vk3xci > > ___ > > Xastir mailing list > > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir > ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start
Sorry, you said Ubuntu - sudo. --- David A. Lane, KG4GIY EC/RO Prince William County ARES®/RACES +1.703.628.3868 http://www.pwcares.org/ IM/Skype/Twitter: kg4giy > On May 18, 2016, at 5:50 AM, Norm McMillan wrote: > > OK, I'm no noob, more like a "born again", and it has been a few years so I > may be missing something. > Ubuntu 14.04 > Dell Optiplex 755 > Paccomm Tiny2 > xastir 2.0.0-2.1ubuntu1 > > The Internet interface starts and runs just fine > Serial port, not so much. When I try to start it just sits there. no error > message. > > Set up for > Serial TNC on /dev/ttyS0 > 9600 8N1 > tnc-startup.tnc2 > tnc-stop-sys > > Interestingly gtkterm finds and communicates with the tnc no problem using > thos prams., minicom not! > > I guess I'm missing something? > > Norm, vk3xci > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Serial Port wont start
Are you in the root/wheel group? Serial needs to be started with root. --- David A. Lane, KG4GIY EC/RO Prince William County ARES®/RACES +1.703.628.3868 http://www.pwcares.org/ IM/Skype/Twitter: kg4giy > On May 18, 2016, at 5:50 AM, Norm McMillan wrote: > > OK, I'm no noob, more like a "born again", and it has been a few years so I > may be missing something. > Ubuntu 14.04 > Dell Optiplex 755 > Paccomm Tiny2 > xastir 2.0.0-2.1ubuntu1 > > The Internet interface starts and runs just fine > Serial port, not so much. When I try to start it just sits there. no error > message. > > Set up for > Serial TNC on /dev/ttyS0 > 9600 8N1 > tnc-startup.tnc2 > tnc-stop-sys > > Interestingly gtkterm finds and communicates with the tnc no problem using > thos prams., minicom not! > > I guess I'm missing something? > > Norm, vk3xci > ___ > Xastir mailing list > Xastir@lists.xastir.org > http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
