Re: [Xastir] Re: [linuxham] OT: Processors and Linux version -- Mac

2008-10-28 Thread Gerry Creager

hans oeste wrote:

The only thing I'd like to warn about is that if you use ax25 to try and run
a soundmodem, well, I don't think it is really available for the Mac.  I've
found an AX25 package that some-one put together a few years ago but I have
no idea if it really works.  As for soundmodem -- Good luck.

I guess this only applies if you're trying to run in native mode using Fink
or MacPorts.  If you run Parallels and run Linux on it or load Linux under
bootcamp, then's its a different story.

Hans
VE7OES
 
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From: Steve/WM5Z

Date: 28/10/2008 9:05:39 AM
To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Re: [linuxham] OT: Processors and Linux version
 
Gerry Creager wrote:

My Core2Duo laptop is a real dog for performance.  I run the 64 bit
Fedora on it but it's about to get a scrub and grow CentOS 5.2, for
overall compatibility with the rest of my shop.  Maybe that'll prove a
bit better, but I doubt it.  I believe there are problems in the
processor implementation going deeper than the firmware/BIOS I'll have
to solve.  My next laptop will be a Mac.



You won't be disappointed. My wife just bought one, and it is a
screamer. She can start hers, and by the time mine finishes with POST,
she is up and running. It is the Mac Book Pro. Really nice screen, good
resolution, nice audio (with headphones, no buzz or low end noise),
built in features that suit her needs, and can run some M$ stuff. Plus,
it can even make room for a Linux or windows partition. I wish I could
afford one. Fortunately, the company bought hers. When my Dell dies, I
will probably do likewise.


More than likely the University will buy my first foray into MacWorld, 
and will replace my Dell with a Mac Book Pro.  I doubt I'll go back to 
Dell for a variety of reasons, but most dealing with service on HPC 
clusters...


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Re: [Xastir] OT: Processors and Linux version

2008-10-28 Thread Gerry Creager
Whimperons were sorta slow.  I got past them as fast as possible.  Made 
the mistake of buying several, but they didn't last more than a year in 
service due to performance.


Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Bob Nielsen wrote:

Last week I installed 64-bit Ubuntu 8.04 on a AMD X64 5000+ (2.6 GHz) 
machine and it seems to be running fine.  However, when I ran 
'/proc/cpuinfo', it recognized that there were two cores but said the 
clock was only 1000 MHz. Has anyone else seen this sort of anomoly?


The only similar thing I've seen:  One of my kids is running an AMD
Sempron 1.7GHz and it reports as a 1000MHz.  All 32-bit stuff there,
OpenSuSE-11.0.  On the computer power-up screen is says Sempron
1.7GHz, so I think I got all the motherboard settings right.  The
system also appears slow compared to an AMD Athlon XP 1.2GHz,
perhaps because it's a Sempron.



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Re: [Xastir] Re: [linuxham] OT: Processors and Linux version

2008-10-28 Thread Gerry Creager

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Lee Bengston wrote:


The only problems I have encountered with 64 bit linux versions is the
lack of 64 bit plugins like java.  On my core 2 duo laptop, I didn't
notice much speed difference between the 64 and 32 bit versions, so I
just went with the 32.


Really?  It's reading/writing 8 bytes at a time instead of 4 to your
memory.  It should be faster.


My Core2Duo laptop is a real dog for performance.  I run the 64 bit 
Fedora on it but it's about to get a scrub and grow CentOS 5.2, for 
overall compatibility with the rest of my shop.  Maybe that'll prove a 
bit better, but I doubt it.  I believe there are problems in the 
processor implementation going deeper than the firmware/BIOS I'll have 
to solve.  My next laptop will be a Mac.



BTW:  You can often use 32-bit versions of libraries alongside other
64-bit stuff.  I try not to, but that option is available if you
really need to run something.

Oh, one problem I did have with the 64-bit system was the Java
Hot-Spot compiler for 64-bit:  I had to downgrade from 1.6.x to
1.5.x 'cuz the compiler kept crashing.  It's a known bug and perhaps
1.7.x will fix it.  It was the Sun Java 1.6.x package in
OpenSuSE-11.0 for x86_64.


We've seen a bunch of problems in all releases of 1.6.x on the 
javAPRSSrvr code.  Standard now is to run 1.5.4.  Color this as a 
datapoint.  I don't know I'll upgrade to 1.7.x anytime soon: I've got 
too many servers I use!



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Re: [Xastir] aprs.tamu.edu down?

2008-10-02 Thread Gerry Creager

Tom Russo wrote:

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 03:34:42PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of 
the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:

I've been trying to get some map files from Gerry's server for the past few
days and can't seem to login.  It connects (slowly) but fails with anonymous
login. anyone else having problems?


For me, it just rejects the connection in one way or another.  Right now
the only thing I get is:

421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection.

but a few minutes ago I was getting other messages like "500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot 
locate user specified in 'ftp_username':ftp"

So yep, it sounds like server problems.  


It was a fairly serious LDAP problem that took a lot longer to fix than 
I'd have wanted.  I was buried with several "drop-dead" problems, and 
I've got a new sys-admin still learning the ropes.


Fault is totally mine. Things should be back to "normal" although we're 
still recovering some systems.


73 gerry
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Re: [Xastir] aprslib: a modest proposal for Xastir-NG

2008-09-12 Thread Gerry Creager
I'd really prefer KDE to Gnome.  However: Gnome is already bloated, and 
KDE is heading that way.


I'd be happy with Apache, GPLv2 (I'm still not convinced about v3) or 
LGPL.  LGPL is about the easiest to go with...


gerry

Nick wrote:
I am definitely an extreme novice when it comes to code, but some of 
this stuff is rubbing off Curt and on to me.


I decided to look up GPL and LGPL to see what all the banter was about 
and I have an ideaHow about using GNOME?


Cheers,

Nick
KC7RGL

Tom Russo wrote:
Now, there's one part of my suggestion that might be offensive to 
Xastir folks.  I think that a core aprslib should NOT be GPL!  Open 
source, yes, but released under LGPL, BSD, MIT or similar license.  
To make the most of the concept, EVERYONE (even commercial 
developers) should use this library as the core of their products.



I'd go as far as thinking the library should be LGPL.  BSD and MIT are 
good
licenses for some purposes, but the idea of allowing a closed-source 
fork is not one I think most Xastir developers will be happy with.  
I'd agree with them. 
  

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Re: [Xastir] Hurricane Ike and Radar composites

2008-09-11 Thread Gerry Creager

The wishes of good luck are appreciated.  "Stay dry" looks futile.

73, gerry

Eric Germann wrote:

FWIW, here is one that uses Iowa State instead of TAMU (also attached) ...

Good luck and stay dry

73,
N1ICS
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#US Composite Radar image (Unidata/LDM/Gempak) n5jxs 2003 08 25
# Modified for accuracy, comments:  n5jxs 2004 03 15 1400UTC
#
# Modified by N1ICS to use Iowa State Mesonet server instead of Texas A&M
#   2007-Oct-18

# If you want to get a different image-type, change the selection
# below by removing the '#' from the front of the URL, and placing
# a '#' before all URLs for image-types you don't want.
# I don't know what will happen if you have multiple URLs selected.
#URL http://mesonet.tamu.edu/gemdata/images/radar/01_USrad.png

URL 
http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/data/gis/images/unproj/USCOMP/n0r_0.png


#   X   Y   LongLat
TIEPOINT0  0-126.0  50.0
TIEPOINT59992599-66.0   24.0
IMAGESIZE 6000 2600

# Map Extent (50, -126) upper left to (24, -66) lower right (.01 
degree per pixel)


#
# REFRESH tells your program just how often to retrieve the radar
# image.  Images are recreated on the server every 6 minutes (720
# sec).
REFRESH 180

# Transparent tells the program and image handling software what
# color is to be considered transparent.  In this case, it's white
# and valid for a 24-bit color map.
#TRANSPARENT 0xff
# The following should work for a 16-bit color map.
#TRANSPARENT 0x0
# The following should work for all color maps, now.
#TRANSPARENT 0x0
TRANSPARENT 0x0



Gerry Creager wrote:
For what it's worth, Ike is heading toward a coastline near me now.  I 
don't know if we'll really have anything more than a little wind and 
rain but if radar composites go away, that's likely why, and we'll be 
back up as soon as I can manage a recovery plan.


gerry





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[Xastir] Hurricane Ike and Radar composites

2008-09-11 Thread Gerry Creager
For what it's worth, Ike is heading toward a coastline near me now.  I 
don't know if we'll really have anything more than a little wind and 
rain but if radar composites go away, that's likely why, and we'll be 
back up as soon as I can manage a recovery plan.


gerry
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Re: [Xastir] Inter-program communication feature request

2008-09-11 Thread Gerry Creager
Areal calculations of irregular geographic areas in, eg., Excel or 
OOcalc are prone to some errors.  However, as an Xastir v2 request, 
using a spatial database, it'd be easy to get the area of a bounded 
region or polygon, using the tools already in PostGIS.


gerry

Eric Germann wrote:
Maybe I've been up too long, but couldn't you do this with shapefiles?  
Take the excel data and render a shapefile, with the shading factors 
reflecting the POS and have Xastir read the file periodically like it 
does weather alert shapefiles?


EKG
N1ICS

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Jim Tolbert wrote:

For SAR use, there is a spreadsheet application that calculates 
probability of success of a search in a particular search sector.  In 
Xastir, we can identify the search sectors with the closed polygon 
which will calculate the area.


Is there a way to have Xastir and the OpenOffice Calc / Excel 
application exchange the search sector areas and  the current 
Probability of Success for visual presentation?


That is, the operator would set up the search sector in Xastir using 
predefined sector names.  Xastir would calculate the area of the 
sector and write those area values to the proper field in the 
spreadsheet.


The operator would then perform the calculations in the spreadsheet 
and update the POS for that sector.  The spreadsheet would then send 
the updated POS values to the note field of the sector for display in 
Xastir.


A step further would be to shade the sector based on the current POS.


I know _exactly_ what you're talking about, although there are
several ways of doing the calculations via various spreadsheets or
via stand-alone programs.

Tom knows the methods you're talking about to calculate POS/POD
also.

If you look at the Feature Request tracker for the Xastir project
you'll see that the segments were intended to be a step in that
direction, and that there are other feature requests along those
lines as well.  Do a search through the requests using the string
"SAR".

Now that you'll know some of the direction were headed back then,
let's talk about the direction we're headed now:  Xastir-NG (Xastir
Next Generation).

On the sourceforge.net/projects/xastir set of pages is a Wiki.
We're using that Wiki and the Xastir-Dev mailing list to discuss the
Xastir-NG project.  Anyone with requirements or ideas for directions
we should go should add to the Use Cases on that Wiki and get
subscribed to the -Dev mailing list to make your needs known to the
developers.  We really need to get that project rolling as we've
been talking about it for way too long with little action.  I'd
rather put fresh energy into the new project than keep patching up
the old, although at times that can be a nice diversion as well.


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Re: [Xastir] How to...

2008-09-07 Thread Gerry Creager
The tactcial callsign usage will work for a bike ride.  It's worked for 
me before.  What problems are you having implementing it?


73 gerry

Keith Kaiser wrote:
Thanks David and Kevin, I do wish I could track multiple and zoom to fit 
and have used the tactical call method suggested by Kevin. Unfortunately 
that really doesn't work for a bike ride but thank you anyway, and I 
sure hope the guys are having a great time in Washington.



On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Kevin J. Hogan wrote:


On the Albuquerque Gas Balloon race I put a tactical call on each one of
the balloons.
Then do show tactical call only.
This will only have the balloons you want to track on the map.

Kevin KA5STE

On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 17:02 -0700, David Flood wrote:

Right now it doesn't track more than one at a time.  The "wish list" has
had both "track multiple" and "zoom to fit" on it for some time now.
One of these centuries I'll find some ATU's and dust off my programming
skills.

Also FYI, Curt and a lot of the other normal responders to questions
like this are out playing near North Bend, Washington.  I'd be out there
too if it wasn't for relatives and my work schedule.

Dave
KD7MYC

Keith Kaiser wrote:

What I'm wondering is how to track more than one station at a time?

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Re: [Xastir] Hurricane Watch

2008-09-04 Thread Gerry Creager
Go to http://firenet.us:14501 and take a look at the ports info.  I'm 
gonna update both the machine and the code as soon as I can get a 
machine I can put it on and some time.


Try 2323 and 10152 for a good start...

gerry

Steve Friis wrote:




Firenet w/objects and items coming through your filter.  Turn on

Station->
Filter Data->
Objects/Items
WX Objects/Items

I have all of these under Station set ok. But Firenet won't start. What 
is the right port? I have 14580 in there now. And, is it firenet.net?





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Re: [Xastir] Hurricane Watch

2008-09-04 Thread Gerry Creager

Tate, Steve,

Thanks.  First order of business: Upgrade to Centos 5, THEN, do the 
Centos updates.  All, of course, without my wife killing me for 
"ruining" a day off by being on the computer...


I'll try to look at these, though, and see what we can do to make things 
as compliant as possible.


For your viewing pleasure:
http://mesonet.tamu.edu/scoop-cgi/ogc/wrf_ncl
(Sea Surface Temp color contours, isobars, wind vectors)

http://mesonet.tamu.edu/scoop-cgi/ogc/wrf_winds
(wind speed color contours, wind vectors)

If I sent these earlier, well, it's been a long week.

gerry

Steve Friis wrote:

Tate - KA7O wrote:

Gerry Creager wrote:
If I can remember the incantations to compile Xastir on a new CentOS 
5 install I'll look at these tomorrow.  I'm reinstalling my machine 
at home tomorrow, I hope.  Otherwise I'll look on the laptop...  Then 
I'll see if we're representing things correctly.  I know that Dale's 
going outta the business of the WxSrv stuff but we're trying to see 
how to carry on and provide real and timely information.


gc



Gerry,

The Fedora 'howto' on the documentation wiki should at least be close 
- if not spot on. If there're bits that don't fit/work - holler!


http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Fedora

73
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I looked it over, being a fedora user. You are right on with everything, 
except you promise a short how-to in the beginning for "sudo" set-up but 
never do. Other than that, good work. I would grade you a A, with the 
plus pending the addition of the "sudo".




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Re: [Xastir] Hurricane Watch

2008-09-04 Thread Gerry Creager
If I can remember the incantations to compile Xastir on a new CentOS 5 
install I'll look at these tomorrow.  I'm reinstalling my machine at 
home tomorrow, I hope.  Otherwise I'll look on the laptop...  Then I'll 
see if we're representing things correctly.  I know that Dale's going 
outta the business of the WxSrv stuff but we're trying to see how to 
carry on and provide real and timely information.


gc

Tom Russo wrote:

On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:10:28PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of 
the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
I'm looking at Hanna and Ike on Xastir, but each has a number of  
circles, red, green, yellow around them. Would someone in the know  
please give me (and the rest of us land lubbers) the skinny on this,  
tell us how all this happens.


Are you asking what the different circles mean?  I was able to figure this
out by looking at the APRS spec and the source code in db.c --- I was unable
to find any documentation of these circles anywhere else.

They're the radius of various wind speed ranges as predicted by the NWS.
The red circle is the reported (or predicted) radius of hurricane force winds, 
the green the radius of gale-force winds, and the yellow the radius of tropical

storm winds.  The packet that contains that information also has information
about the true ranges and speeds in the report.

Some of the reports are predictions X hours in the future.  So HANNA+24h is
the prediction for where HANNA will be in 24 hours and how strong it's 
predicted to be.


It's not clear to me that Xastir displays all the information available in
the packet.  I looked over some of the recent data using the perl APRS decoder
(ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/a/archer/aprs/Ian_Wade/aprsdecu.tar.gz)
and there seems to be a lot more there than Xastir is showing in the Station
Info dialog for the object.  For example, I just grabbed this packet out of
my logs:

NHCTCM>APRS,qAS,WXSVR:;[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/010/TS/055^065/0989>000&275%090zkIqzhhz{4FDA0

which the perl aprs decoder shows as:

 APRS Data Type= Object
 Object Name= 'HANNA_ato'  Object Status= Live

 Day= 04  Time= 21 hours 00 mins UTC
 Lat= 24 deg 30.00 min N  Long= 73 deg 30.00 min W
 Icon= Hurricane   Overlay= **BAD OVERLAY CHAR 'S' not allowed with this symbol
 Wind Direction= 315 deg   Speed= 010 knots (11.5 mph  18.5 kph  5.1 m/s)
 Tropical Storm:   Sustained Wind Speed= 055 knots (63.3 mph  101.9 kph  28.3 m/
s)
 Peak Wind Speed= 065 knots (74.8 mph  120.4 kph  33.4 m/s)
 Central Pressure= 989 mbar/hP
 Radius of Hurricane Winds= 0 nautical miles (0 miles  0 km)
 Radius of Tropical Storm Winds= 275 nautical miles (316 miles  509 km)
 Radius of Whole Gale Winds= 90 nautical miles (104 miles  167 km)

There could also be multi-point data hidden in the comment, but I'm not sure.

There's additional information here that I'm not sure is captured anywhere
in documentation I can find:  for example, what's the overlay character
signify?  


Gerry: do you know whether the data after the gale winds data is meant to
be a multipoint descriptor, and whether the overlay character is supposed to
mean anything in particular?  The wxsvr.net web site appears to be gone for
good and the documentation that was once there is no longer available.



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Re: [Xastir] Hurricane Watch

2008-09-04 Thread Gerry Creager
You might find these of some interest.  Sorry the graphic isn't bigger, 
but I'm outta time...


http://mesonet.tamu.edu/scoop-cgi/ogc/wrf_ncl (sea surface temp 
[colors], isobars, wind vectors)
http://mesonet.tamu.edu/scoop-cgi/ogc/wrf_winds (wind speed color 
contours, wind vectors)




Jason KG4WSV wrote:

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Keith Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 tell us how all this
happens.


Just off the coast of Africa, a quantum butterfly flaps its
fractal-edged wings...

sorry, been reading too much Terry Pratchett.

-Jason
kg4wsv
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Re: [Xastir] GPS Accuracy -- relative vs absolute

2008-08-16 Thread Gerry Creager

Pseudo-random but close enough to random for this discussion.

I can't enter the lecture series 'til tonight but if there's a call, I will,

Technically, it's a set of systemmatic errors.  However the equation of 
error summation isn't linear so it starts getting, well, pseudo-random.


gerry

Jim Tolbert wrote:
Not necessarily trying to goad Gerry into the lecture series on this 
fine Saturday morning and probably not using the correct terminology, 
but...


Is the error random (relative placement is no more accurate) or systemic 
( relative placement >>may<< be more accurate).. If I have a bunch 
of the same type of GPS receiver with the same type of device collecting 
and transmitting the data, am I likely to have more relative accuracy of 
placement than I am if I have GPS receivers /transmitters of different 
type, manufactures, etc?


Back to the "Honey-Do" list...  I just need something constructive to 
chew on while I work on it .


Thx.... jt

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Gerry Creager wrote:

In general terms, you've got GPS accuracy (repeatability vice a 
known, surveyed point) on the order of 6 meters.  This has been the 
same ever since DoD turned off selective availability in 2000.  There 
are times when it's better, times when it's worse, mostly due to 
satellite constellation geometry.


If you use DGPS, RTK or WAAS, you should see an improvement of about 
(not precisely) an horder of magnitude.  Lots of receivers have WAAS 
now.


The simplest possible way to put it:  DAO or Base91-Compressed
packets allow for more precision but GPS, unless augmented, will not
be accurate enough to make use of it.  Unaugmented GPS _will_ fill
in the extra digits but those extra digits will be worthless.

This is a better situation than standard APRS or Mic-E packets where
the precision of the packet is not enough to represent what standard
GPS'es are capable of doing since Selective Availability was turned
off years ago.  Standard APRS or Mic-E packets give about 40' x 60'
resolution in my part of the world.

Use a WAAS unit and have a clear view of the southern sky so you get
a good WAAS lock:  You'll be able to take advantage of the extra
precision that Base91-Compressed or DAO gives you.  Assuming that
the APRS software makes proper use of these types of packets.  As
soon as you lose your low-angle view of the southern sky due to
obstructions you are back to 6 meter precision, so WAAS is useless
in a lot of terrain.  If you're in a fairly flat area with a good
southern view then it can work while mobile/portable quite well.

The datum of the GPS is also important if you're trying to actually
use the extra precision:  Set the GPS to WGS84 datum.  DAO can send
the datum along as well but Xastir doesn't currently have support
for translating the received datum into WGS84 for display.

We can also get into my old argument about actually using the extra
precision with accurate maps and hand-placing objects (not using
GPS), but that's a very specific case and not a common use.





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Re: [Xastir] GPS Accuracy -- relative vs absolute

2008-08-16 Thread Gerry Creager
Actually, Curt and I worked through this some time ago.  If you're not 
careful, you'll get me into the GPS Lecture Series mode.  In bygone 
years on the APRS list, there were legions who groaned when that happened.


In general terms, you've got GPS accuracy (repeatability vice a known, 
surveyed point) on the order of 6 meters.  This has been the same ever 
since DoD turned off selective availability in 2000.  There are times 
when it's better, times when it's worse, mostly due to satellite 
constellation geometry.


If you use DGPS, RTK or WAAS, you should see an improvement of about 
(not precisely) an horder of magnitude.  Lots of receivers have WAAS now.


gc

Jim Tolbert wrote:
Running back to the desire for DAO packets.   I am assuming that 
with standard APRS packets having 2 decimal places and DAO having 3 
decimal places that I will be locating a particular GPS receiver to an 
area that is an order of magnitude  more precise.  I am probably not 
saying this correctly, but with the standard APRS packet, I have an area 
of uncertainty of about 20' x 40' ( in northern Wisconsin, US ( 
N45,W92)).  By moving to a DAO packet, I will have an area of 
uncertainty of about 2' x 4'.


If I have a bunch of GPS receivers of the same type, can I assume that 
the relative location is pretty good, even if the absolute location may 
be off a bit?   I am really primarily interested in relative positioning.


Since Xastir is really just plotting the data it receives, I am going to 
post this query on the APRS group as well, but I wanted to be sure to 
catch Gerry ...


Many thanks, all... jt



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Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm

2008-08-11 Thread Gerry Creager

Jim Morgan wrote:

I really don't think the problem is a permissions issue. I can sudo xastir and 
get the same results. I can't quite put my finger on the issue. According to 
Xastir it is able to open /dev/ttyS0 but no communication happens between the 
tnc and the computer. Couple that with the fact that everytime I try to use 
GTKTerm I get a cannot open because ttyS0 is busy even if it is the first thing 
I try makes me think the computer actually has a screw loose somewhere and it 
keeps bouncing around messing stuff up.

Tomorrow sometime I will do Dave's and Gerry's suggestions and see where that 
takes me.

BTW- Gerry that little storm dumped almost 2" of rain on McCamey and over an 
ince in Odessa :)


Should have left some hail somewhere too: There was quite a hail-core 
signature after it left your area!


Good luck.

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Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm

2008-08-11 Thread Gerry Creager
While I was talking to him, he was logged in as root.  I'd have thought 
root should have access to it...


Bob Donnell wrote:

It occurs to me that this could be an error message that's falsely reporting
inability to find ttyS0, when in fact, it's reporting that the user that's
trying to run gtkterm isn't a member of the group that owns ttyS0.  So that
user should be added to the group, and will need to log out and back in
again.

Hope that helps,

73, Bob, KD7NM

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gerry Creager
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 4:56 PM
To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm

Dave,

I just talked to Jim on the phone for a bit.  He's successfully got gtkterm
installed, and a valid config file but it now claims it can't find
/dev/ttyS0 to open it.

It does exist but I'm now at a loss to determine how to see what it's
connected to...

I just don't know ubuntu and debian.

gerry

Dave H wrote:

Jim
I just tried it on my Ubuntu radio pc and here are the results.. (the 
blue line is my input (pressing enter  after) the rest is what comes back.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps -aux | grep ttyS0
Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See 
http://procps.sf.net/faq.html

root  6038  0.0  0.6   4864  2468 pts/2S+   Aug09   0:00 minicom
ttyS0
davekh8413  0.0  0.1   2988   764 pts/4R+   23:44   0:00 grep

ttyS0
The line above that starts with root would be the one your are 
interested in ..
its the last bit of it thats telling you its about ttyS0 .  Important 
- ignore the secondline that ends in "...grep ttyS0" thats just 
telling you you just looked for ttyS0.


If you can copy and past it in to a reply  (select in terminal and 
then choose edit/copy) before taking any other action.



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Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-D700-Xastir-GTKTerm

2008-08-11 Thread Gerry Creager

Dave,

I just talked to Jim on the phone for a bit.  He's successfully got 
gtkterm installed, and a valid config file but it now claims it can't 
find /dev/ttyS0 to open it.


It does exist but I'm now at a loss to determine how to see what it's 
connected to...


I just don't know ubuntu and debian.

gerry

Dave H wrote:

Jim
I just tried it on my Ubuntu radio pc and here are the results.. (the blue
line is my input (pressing enter  after) the rest is what comes back.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps -aux | grep ttyS0
Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See
http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
root  6038  0.0  0.6   4864  2468 pts/2S+   Aug09   0:00 minicom
ttyS0
davekh8413  0.0  0.1   2988   764 pts/4R+   23:44   0:00 grep ttyS0

The line above that starts with root would be the one your are interested in
..
its the last bit of it thats telling you its about ttyS0 .  Important -
ignore the secondline that ends in "...grep ttyS0" thats just telling you
you just looked for ttyS0.

If you can copy and past it in to a reply  (select in terminal and then
choose edit/copy) before taking any other action.


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Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-Kenwood D700-Xastir

2008-08-10 Thread Gerry Creager

Jim,

Yeah, there's something mising.  You need to copy and paste exactly. 
You removed some rather important whitespace between the '/' and '-name' 
 ;-)


gerry

Jim Morgan wrote:

debian, actually, does put things in different spots, some akin to bsd's take on where 
things should be, some in "logically" named locations.

As root:
find / -name xastir|grep bin

THEN do a chmod on the file as Gale suggested.

***

Ok here is the terminal:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo find /-name xastir|grep bin
[sudo] password for jim:
find: /-name: No such file or directory
find: xastir: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /root
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ find /-name xastir|grep bin
find: /-name: No such file or directory
find: xastir: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ sudo find /-name xastir|grep bin
find: /-name: No such file or directory
find: xastir: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ sudo find /-jim xastir|grep bin
find: /-jim: No such file or directory
find: xastir: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ 


Am I not understanding something? I am new at this.

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Re: [Xastir] Fluxbuntu-Kenwood D700-Xastir

2008-08-10 Thread Gerry Creager

Jim Morgan wrote:

Possibly, as root, chmod 4555 /usr /local/bin/xastir?

Gale
KC4PL

when I do that I get "hard fail on interface 1" messages. My file is 
/usr/share/xastir in this case. I guess Ubuntu folks load stuff different than the rest 
of the world.


debian, actually, does put things in different spots, some akin to bsd's 
take on where things should be, some in "logically" named locations.


As root:
find / -name xastir|grep bin

THEN do a chmod on the file as Gale suggested.
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Re: [Xastir] Shape Files for...

2008-08-06 Thread Gerry Creager

Check ftp://aprs.tamu.edu/pub for the latest Tigers.

Keith Kaiser wrote:
I'm looking for the shp/shx/dbf files for the county that includes 
Alpharetta, Georgia, if you have and are willing to share would  you 
send them to me or maybe just help me find them.



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Re: [Xastir] Seismic event feed?

2008-08-06 Thread Gerry Creager
Filters is filters.  firenet uses javaprs and the server adjunct.  Same 
syntax works.

gc

Alex Carver wrote:

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Curt, WE7U  wrote:

From: Curt, WE7U 
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Seismic event feed?

To: "Xastir - APRS client software discussion" 
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 6:45 PM
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008, Alex Carver wrote:


Is there a page somewhere that documents it?  The one

page I found

http://wiki.ampr2.net/nwaprs/FireNet is not

responding.

That one's down, but it doesn't document the quake
data anyway.  I
don't believe anything out there does.  The name of the
objects
include the magnitude and the date as I recall, then in the
comments
are the depth and as much of a text descriptor of the
location as
will fit in the remaining space.


Ok, does Firenet also support the basic APRS-IS filters or does it have specialized ones? 



  
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Re: [Xastir] No more lockups with radar map

2008-08-06 Thread Gerry Creager

Argh.  Another bug report on the radar stuff.  I'll add it to the list.

Alex Carver wrote:

Switching to GraphicsMagick worked but it also explained the error.  
ImageMagick was failing without printing an error so I had no idea what was 
going on.  But with GM, it tells me that occasionally the radar GIF is corrupt 
and thus GM bombs out.  It would appear that the combination of IM/Xastir 
doesn't handle this situation quite as gracefully as GM/Xastir thus leading to 
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Re: [Xastir] torrents and xastir

2008-08-01 Thread Gerry Creager

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Gerry Creager wrote:

Imagine a site with a CONUS map (to start, and thinking small; we 
could scale up) where you can use a bounding box to identify your 
region of interest or cursor to select a particular point (map).  
After that selection you see an inventory of different maps and types 
of maps available, and you use a check-list to identify the ones you 
want.  The site prepares a separate page/Torrent stream to provide 
these, and the page is lightly persistent (days before it ages out) 
and indexed on a page of recent selections.


You'd have the option of getting the data via download or Torrent at 
that point.  Simplified data delivery.


In this case you don't gain any advantages of the peer-to-peer
distributed transfer.  You only gain the advantage of another method
of server->client that may be easier to use at the client end.


We've seen, in another endeavor I work around, that if one person's 
interested in a dataset, someone else is likely interested.  So, 
creating that dataset, especially if it's big/bulky and takes some time, 
should happen as few times as possible.



We'd need a server with the space for 100 DVD's worth of data for
DRG's and another 100 for DOQQ's plus space for other types of maps,
professionaly backed-up.  Also need a big pipe 'cuz non-Xastir
people will find it too.


Not today, but in a week? Or does it have to be today?


Now:  Imagine the same kind of a setup as you describe but have it
auto-create the torrent files and keep them around, plus post them
on a web site.  As maps get distributed from BIGSERVER over
torrrent, the bandwidth required would go down over time assuming
enough people became seeders.


I think you just said what I said.  or tried to say.


Of course the reality is the server would become more popular over
time, but the torrents might keep the total bandwidth used more
under control.  Less of an exponential rise anyway.


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Re: [Xastir] torrents and xastir

2008-08-01 Thread Gerry Creager

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Jason KG4WSV wrote:


...I'm trying to understand if and how we (xastir
and APRS users) can benefit from the distribution system in the
sharing of our sometimes large chunks of data, like maps and VM
images.

The basic premise/assumption is that many people will want to download
and many of those will make the data once they have downloaded, right?
If no one peering, there is nothing to download?  I guess it degrades
to a traditional master-client download if there's only 1 "peer".

I'm trying to figure out if it's worth the effort, given our
relatively small numbers, to make things like VM images, TIGER
shapefiles, DRGs, DOQQs, etc available via bit torrent.


In the recent past I said I didn't know anything about torrent.
That was somewhat false, as I've been using it for a few years but
only in the "leecher" mode.  When it got to "seeding" I always shut
it down.  Now I see a reason to leave it in seeding mode and have
done so.  I basically understand how torrent works and am getting
used to some of the special lingo for it.

I don't yet know if the below scheme would work but I'll put it out
there.  Someone more familiar with it can shoot it down:

a) Someone runs a web page that has multiple ".torrent" files on it,
   representing all the things we have available to download.  This
   could be a Wiki page, right?  We'd have to be careful who has
   edit access to it (user/password).  We have one such page now
   with three items on it, but it's not a Wiki.  This web page ends
   up with very little usage as the bulk transfers happen
   client-to-client, not from this web page.

b) People make various maps available for download.  For instance I
   have three DVD's containing all of the USGS topos for WA that are
   freely distributable.  I also have a good portion of OR and a few
   for ID/MT/HI.  I'd love for these to be "out there" for other
   people to use.

c) These same people create a torrent file out of this data, upload
   it to the Wiki, and edit the Wiki to make that torrent link show
   up.

d) The first download ends up being a server/client relationship as
   you described, but if at least a few of the people doing the
   downloads leave their torrent client up and running, they become
   a shared resource for the same file.  More than likely if we put
   maps up there we'll have non-Xastir people doing downloads as
   well, maybe even becoming additional resources to download from.

e) The maps contributed in this manner must be freely distributable
   to preserve our good project name.

Questions I have still:

1) Would we want to create a torrent for each file?  For each CD or
   DVD set?  In my case the DVD's were created from a LOT of CD's,
   and each CD had a LOT of maps on it.  Of course each map is
   megabytes of data as well.  I know I could create a torrent for
   an entire directory, but in the case of the DATA and METADATA
   directories for these CD's or especially DVD's the download would
   be huge.  I guess once two people have it and are seeding it
   changes things, but that initial first download would take forever.

2) To make it easier on the map providers, one big download is the
   way to go.  To make it easier on the "leechers" it might be
   better to have smaller increments.  How does one decide this?
   I'm sure I could write a script that would make a torrent file
   out of each map file, but am not sure I could do the same to get
   the multiple thousands of torrents uploaded to a Wiki.

3) Is the idea of distributing maps via torrent workable at all?
   I've been looking for a method to make USGS DRG's and DOQQ's
   available for a number of years, and this seems the closest match
   to date.


CAVEAT:  I can't even START to think about this 'til I can extricate 
myself from a particular project, but what I'd like to see would be some 
variant on this...


Imagine a site with a CONUS map (to start, and thinking small; we could 
scale up) where you can use a bounding box to identify your region of 
interest or cursor to select a particular point (map).  After that 
selection you see an inventory of different maps and types of maps 
available, and you use a check-list to identify the ones you want.  The 
site prepares a separate page/Torrent stream to provide these, and the 
page is lightly persistent (days before it ages out) and indexed on a 
page of recent selections.


You'd have the option of getting the data via download or Torrent at 
that point.  Simplified data delivery.


I'm not sure how making delivery of all those maps via Torrent can be 
done without some form of simplified selection, but then I'm not a big 
Torrent user.  I tend to get OS distro's and kernel updates that way, at 
home, because it "

Re: [Xastir] Xastir-Hardy VM Revised

2008-08-01 Thread Gerry Creager
If you're paying for 1MB/s SDSL, and getting 10k, you're seeing a real 
problem.


David Aitcheson wrote:

Curt,

No limits were in play, just a wimpy pipe on my end.
Mind you it is a lot better than dial-up that I used to have.
If I got 1 KB/s down and 500B/s up on dial-up that was a good day.
Last night I was only getting 10 KB/s up on a 1 MB/s _SYNCRONOUS_ pipe!

Dave - KB3EFS
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Curt, WE7U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, David Aitcheson wrote:

 Well so much for that effort.

On top of a exstreamly slow upload speed the ISP called and complained
about
it.  Down is okay with them, but up is not.


Your client may have a way to limit the bandwidth for uploads.

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Re: [Xastir] torrents and xastir

2008-08-01 Thread Gerry Creager
P2P excels when there's a lot of consumers, and you start with 
one server.  If, however, each subscribers becomes a server (publisher) 
upon receipt, per-server bandwidth limitations, and system load, are 
mitigated.


For some small value of convenience, too, a user can start a Torrent 
stream and come back to a whole file.  When you're talking movies or 
songs... or TIGER datasets, this can be useful.


We have some folks who don't have a lot of bandwidth, so a Torrent might 
be useful to them to retrieve stuff, but that's speculation.  Overall, 
repositories in the conventional sense might be better/easier to maintain.



Jason KG4WSV wrote:

I'm not terribly familiar with bit torrent, so forgive me if these are
novice questions, but I'm trying to understand if and how we (xastir
and APRS users) can benefit from the distribution system in the
sharing of our sometimes large chunks of data, like maps and VM
images.

The basic premise/assumption is that many people will want to download
and many of those will make the data once they have downloaded, right?
 If no one peering, there is nothing to download?  I guess it degrades
to a traditional master-client download if there's only 1 "peer".

I'm trying to figure out if it's worth the effort, given our
relatively small numbers, to make things like VM images, TIGER
shapefiles, DRGs, DOQQs, etc available via bit torrent.



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[Xastir] AntiX available at ftp://aprs.tamu.edu

2008-08-01 Thread Gerry Creager

At ftp://aprs.tamu.edu/pub/Xastir/VM/Xastir-antiX_7-15-08.zip

And this time I checked permissions!
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Re: [Xastir] Xastir-Hardy on aprs.tamu.edu

2008-08-01 Thread Gerry Creager

Fixed.

Sorry.

gerry

Lee Bengston wrote:

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The files (.zip, .md5sum) are at ftp://aprs.tamu.edu/pub/Xastir/VM/

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Thanks, Gerry!

Fyi, I tried a little test and was unable to download.  I think there
is a permissions issue with the files.  My FTP client shows them at
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Re: [Xastir] Xastir-Hardy on aprs.tamu.edu

2008-08-01 Thread Gerry Creager
Just got to Austin for SummerFest.  OK, so I got here a couple of hours 
ago and I'm working late.


Let me check those and see.

gerry

Lee Bengston wrote:

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The files (.zip, .md5sum) are at ftp://aprs.tamu.edu/pub/Xastir/VM/

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Fyi, I tried a little test and was unable to download.  I think there
is a permissions issue with the files.  My FTP client shows them at
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[Xastir] Xastir-Hardy on aprs.tamu.edu

2008-07-31 Thread Gerry Creager

The files (.zip, .md5sum) are at ftp://aprs.tamu.edu/pub/Xastir/VM/

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Re: [Xastir] Xastir-Hardy VM Revised

2008-07-30 Thread Gerry Creager

ftp://aprs.tamu.edu/incoming and then send me e-mail about it

Lee Bengston wrote:

So in short, Xastir-Hardy_080729.zip can't be distributed via
BitTorrent until someone who has a copy of it creates a .torrent file.

Tom KD7LXL


Next time we have to go through this I could send the file from work
to a location where it can be posted to the public.  I can't provide a
server there due to the firewall and corporate rules, but if someone
gave me a temporary FTP address with write capability, for example, I
could transmit it from work very fast.  I work for a big telecom
company, so the pipe is big.

Fyi, on bit-torrent I am already seeding the original VM's - will seed
this one as well when the torrent is ready.  Last night I downloaded
the original Xastir-Hardy VM using the torrent, and I achieved my full
5mbps max download speed from the ISP - worked like a champ.

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Re: [Xastir] Error upgrading from 1.7.1 to 1.9.2

2008-07-27 Thread Gerry Creager

OK, another possible distraction gone.  Tom was right.

I'll mull this but I'm not a Mac-head...

gerry

Nick wrote:

Here it is


bash-3.2$ cc -v x.ci686-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1: x.c: No such file 
or directory

Using built-in specs.
Target: i686-apple-darwin8
Configured with: /private/var/tmp/gcc/gcc-5363.obj~28/src/configure 
--disable-checking -enable-werror --prefix=/usr --mandir=/share/man 
--enable-languages=c,objc,c++,obj-c++ 
--program-transform-name=/^[cg][^.-]*$/s/$/-4.0/ 
--with-gxx-include-dir=/include/c++/4.0.0 --with-slibdir=/usr/lib 
--build=powerpc-apple-darwin8 --with-arch=nocona --with-tune=generic 
--program-prefix= --host=i686-apple-darwin8 --target=i686-apple-darwin8

Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5363)
bash-3.2$

Gerry Creager wrote:

Nick,

Do you have the gnu compilers installed, or is it trying to use XLC? 
please try 'cc -v x.c' and let us see the result.


gerry

Tom Russo wrote:
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 10:47:22AM -0700, we recorded a 
bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, 
containing:

Found the config.log file, thank you Tom.

Here it is:

I see several potential problems under output variables, but not 
sure how to resolve it.


The problem is right here:


It was created by xastir configure 1.9.2, which was
generated by GNU Autoconf 2.59.  Invocation command line was

  $ ./configure


[...]

configure:2229: checking for C compiler default output file name
configure:2232: gccconftest.c  >&5
/usr/bin/ld: 
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-apple-darwin8/4.0.1/../../../libSystem.dylib 
unknown flags (type) of section 6 (__TEXT,__literal16) in load 
command 0

collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure:2235: $? = 1
configure: failed program was:


[...]


There is something wrong with your installation of the compiler, as 
it is

puking on a system dynamic library.

I don't know anything about Mac OS X, so someone here with some 
experience

there might have to help you out.





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Re: [Xastir] Error upgrading from 1.7.1 to 1.9.2

2008-07-27 Thread Gerry Creager

Nick,

Do you have the gnu compilers installed, or is it trying to use XLC? 
please try 'cc -v x.c' and let us see the result.


gerry

Tom Russo wrote:

On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 10:47:22AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of 
the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:

Found the config.log file, thank you Tom.

Here it is:

I see several potential problems under output variables, but not sure 
how to resolve it.


The problem is right here:


It was created by xastir configure 1.9.2, which was
generated by GNU Autoconf 2.59.  Invocation command line was

  $ ./configure


[...]

configure:2229: checking for C compiler default output file name
configure:2232: gccconftest.c  >&5
/usr/bin/ld: 
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-apple-darwin8/4.0.1/../../../libSystem.dylib unknown 
flags (type) of section 6 (__TEXT,__literal16) in load command 0

collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure:2235: $? = 1
configure: failed program was:


[...]


There is something wrong with your installation of the compiler, as it is
puking on a system dynamic library.

I don't know anything about Mac OS X, so someone here with some experience
there might have to help you out.



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[Xastir] APRS Servers and verified connections

2008-07-25 Thread Gerry Creager
If any of you have been wondering why you've not been getting into the 
APRS-IS Core servers with reports, or weather, we made a change last 
weekend.


In one of the poorest times I think I've ever picked for a server 
change, we changed all 3 Core servers to align with what the Tier2 folks 
decided to do several months ago:  Require all connections be verified. 
 I refer the interested student to the 'callpass' program for "How do I 
find a passcode" questions.


The purpose? To push forward the separation of CWOP and APRS-IS traffic. 
 CWOP now has its own servers and they're really doing nicely.  APRS-IS 
has its own, comprising the Core and the Tier2 folks, and several 
others.  Last January, as a consequence of Davis Instruments selling a 
bunch of weather stations, we saw a spike in Packets/sec on the APRS-IS 
servers (hosting CWOP), with poor performance, dropped connections and 
dropped packets and other server-overload problems.After a bit of 
analysis it became obvious that the frequency of updates, and the 
predisposition of weather to align themselves with other stations for 
observations every 5 min or so, was slamming our APRS-IS servers.


We found some volunteers to run dedicated CWOP servers and stabilized 
the Core server situation after some potential problems, and started the 
painful process of getting CWOP members (non-hams, that is) to move over 
to the cwop.aprs.net rotation, and the Hams to connect to 
rotate.aprs.net as before


FindU connects to all the APRS-IS Core and all the CWOP servers to 
gather its data.  The backup FindU server does the same thing.  There's 
a CWOP aggregation server that does the same thing, again.


If anyone wants to see all weather stations on a map (think "Sea of 
Blue") they can point Xastir toward cwop.tamu.edu Port 30001 and see the 
stations pop up.


Questions? Comments?
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Re: [Xastir] Tiger 2007 shapefile issue...a beaut

2008-07-13 Thread Gerry Creager
Now decorrelate the GPGLL sentences from the 4-hr test by decimating to 
30- or 60-second intervals.  Decorrelation really does help.


Average, then use a least-squares method to determine residual error.

I don't use choke-rings or ground planes when doing kinematic work.  We 
do make sure the antenna is aligned to N when we do it, though, as 
pattern will affect results.


Finnegan's Finagiling Factor (also called "bias" in literature) has 
saved my butt a bunch of times in the field.  I do a version of that in 
post-processing, too, but the whole procedure is best described in a 
journal article or over a beer.  Or both.


Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

Alright, here are the details of the equipment:

- About 7' of 1.25" PVC pipe with a hole through it for a rubber band to 
hold onto GPS unit

- US GlobalSat BT-359 Bluetooth GPS receiver - chipset: SiRF STAR-III/LP
- Cingular 8525 smartphone
- "Turbo GPS" software Ver 2.00 alpha 8

Did testing in NMEA mode. SiRF mode has the longitude really messed up. 
I think I will hit up a couple of BM's and see how bad the data is. 
Maybe it may be recoverable by applying Finnegan's Fudge Factor.


Trying to resolve a garbage can using just L1 and a consumer grade GPS 
will just give you garbage when you have only ddmm. to use. I went 
in knowing what the maximum resolution is: one count latitude = 0. 
meters; one count longitude = 0.1630 meters. I was willing to spot the 
rig +/- five counts moving so I would say that I made my self-imposed 
limit. I thought that it would be worse.


Using a 2m range pole with a surgical sharp pick at the end will do your 
feet some damage. You probably have a outrageously overpriced choke ring 
antenna on top and that in itself is a real headknocker in its own 
right. I did a test with this setup here at home one day over four 
hours. I pulled out the NMEA $GPGLL sentences that were at PDOP= 0.6 and 
mapped them out. The resulting x-y graph presented an almost circular 
pattern of a diameter of 8 counts. Averaging the readings put the 
average right in the middle of the chart. I am quite happy with this 
mashup. Not professional grade but it will do the jobs that I need it to 
do.


Have a good week. Now to pull up a property survey to figure out an 
issue for someone.


Best Regards,

Richard, N6NKO



Gerry Creager wrote:

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

Gerry,

Yes, the coffee has kicked in and I had egg-on-face for breakfast. 
The map in QGIS looks just like the same as the aforementioned area 
when at full extent view. Zoomed in, it works.


The egg comment has to do with a Census screwup... It's Census, it's 
gonna happen.  Their view of GIS has been "interesting" for some time.


I am glad you got it to work!

Error budget - Well, I am within 5 ft on backtracked trails. Can't 
complain for working under a tree canopy.


1.8m isn't bad, at all!  Now: Imagine what happens when your typical 
error is 2-3 meters, and a picnic table is smaller in at least one 
dimension is smaller than the error budget.  The geometry is, well, 
interesting, and usually looks more like a bow-tie than a rectangle. 
Getting several points to define the radius of a trash can gets even 
more entertaining.


I had the GPS unit on top of a 7 ft PVC pipe talking to my smartphone 
over bluetooth. I just ran out of time to cover the whole place but 
the proof of concept pans out.


When I go do this stuff, I use a 2m "range" pole.  a fixed height 
fiberglas and metal deal designed to poke holes in shoes and give one 
a good feel that their antenna is exactly this high above the point in 
question.  We also have a bulls-eye level on it to allow us to get it 
spot-on above the point in question.


Your rig sounds easier to work with.

gerry


Now its off to other work tasks.

73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO


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Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

Gerry,

Good morning!

I realize that wholeheartedly, but to have this big of a 
screwupoh, wait, this is the Federal Government


Aha!  Your coffee kicked in?  What hardware are you using for your 
campground survey?  I can tell you stories about those from several 
years ago, when folks were trying to resolve objects (e.g., a picnic 
table) that was smaller than their uncorrected L1 error budget...


gerry


Gerry Creager wrote:

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:
I admit that one point does not make a trend but what I found was 
eyeopening.


I wanted just Fond du Lac county in Wisconsin to use as a base 
map for mapping project that I am working on ( a Boy Scout 
campground). I pulled in my files into QGIS and then brought in  
"fe_2007_55039_edges". I did not get Fond du Lac County but a 
huge overview of north Illinois, Indiana and SE Michigan. OUCH!!!


I even went and downloaded a virgin fileset and got the same 
results (see picture).


55039.png
This is not good. I plan on sending

Re: [Xastir] Tiger 2007 shapefile issue...a beaut

2008-07-13 Thread Gerry Creager

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

Gerry,

Yes, the coffee has kicked in and I had egg-on-face for breakfast. The 
map in QGIS looks just like the same as the aforementioned area when at 
full extent view. Zoomed in, it works.


The egg comment has to do with a Census screwup... It's Census, it's 
gonna happen.  Their view of GIS has been "interesting" for some time.


I am glad you got it to work!

Error budget - Well, I am within 5 ft on backtracked trails. Can't 
complain for working under a tree canopy.


1.8m isn't bad, at all!  Now: Imagine what happens when your typical 
error is 2-3 meters, and a picnic table is smaller in at least one 
dimension is smaller than the error budget.  The geometry is, well, 
interesting, and usually looks more like a bow-tie than a rectangle. 
Getting several points to define the radius of a trash can gets even 
more entertaining.


I had the GPS unit on top of a 7 ft PVC pipe talking to my smartphone 
over bluetooth. I just ran out of time to cover the whole place but the 
proof of concept pans out.


When I go do this stuff, I use a 2m "range" pole.  a fixed height 
fiberglas and metal deal designed to poke holes in shoes and give one a 
good feel that their antenna is exactly this high above the point in 
question.  We also have a bulls-eye level on it to allow us to get it 
spot-on above the point in question.


Your rig sounds easier to work with.

gerry


Now its off to other work tasks.

73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO


Gerry Creager wrote:

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

Gerry,

Good morning!

I realize that wholeheartedly, but to have this big of a 
screwupoh, wait, this is the Federal Government


Aha!  Your coffee kicked in?  What hardware are you using for your 
campground survey?  I can tell you stories about those from several 
years ago, when folks were trying to resolve objects (e.g., a picnic 
table) that was smaller than their uncorrected L1 error budget...


gerry


Gerry Creager wrote:

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:
I admit that one point does not make a trend but what I found was 
eyeopening.


I wanted just Fond du Lac county in Wisconsin to use as a base map 
for mapping project that I am working on ( a Boy Scout campground). 
I pulled in my files into QGIS and then brought in  
"fe_2007_55039_edges". I did not get Fond du Lac County but a huge 
overview of north Illinois, Indiana and SE Michigan. OUCH!!!


I even went and downloaded a virgin fileset and got the same 
results (see picture).


55039.png
This is not good. I plan on sending on a comment to the Census Bureau.

So, let the user beware - YMMV.


Unfortunately, this warning has always been necessary with TIGER 
files.  They're not the best GIS data source.  They're just 
available and free.

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Re: [Xastir] Tiger 2007 shapefile issue...a beaut

2008-07-13 Thread Gerry Creager

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

Gerry,

Good morning!

I realize that wholeheartedly, but to have this big of a screwupoh, 
wait, this is the Federal Government


Aha!  Your coffee kicked in?  What hardware are you using for your 
campground survey?  I can tell you stories about those from several 
years ago, when folks were trying to resolve objects (e.g., a picnic 
table) that was smaller than their uncorrected L1 error budget...


gerry


Gerry Creager wrote:

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:
I admit that one point does not make a trend but what I found was 
eyeopening.


I wanted just Fond du Lac county in Wisconsin to use as a base map 
for mapping project that I am working on ( a Boy Scout campground). I 
pulled in my files into QGIS and then brought in  
"fe_2007_55039_edges". I did not get Fond du Lac County but a huge 
overview of north Illinois, Indiana and SE Michigan. OUCH!!!


I even went and downloaded a virgin fileset and got the same results 
(see picture).


55039.png
This is not good. I plan on sending on a comment to the Census Bureau.

So, let the user beware - YMMV.


Unfortunately, this warning has always been necessary with TIGER 
files.  They're not the best GIS data source.  They're just available 
and free.

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Re: [Xastir] Tiger 2007 shapefile issue...a beaut

2008-07-13 Thread Gerry Creager

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:
I admit that one point does not make a trend but what I found was 
eyeopening.


I wanted just Fond du Lac county in Wisconsin to use as a base map for 
mapping project that I am working on ( a Boy Scout campground). I pulled 
in my files into QGIS and then brought in  "fe_2007_55039_edges". I did 
not get Fond du Lac County but a huge overview of north Illinois, 
Indiana and SE Michigan. OUCH!!!


I even went and downloaded a virgin fileset and got the same results 
(see picture).


55039.png
This is not good. I plan on sending on a comment to the Census Bureau.

So, let the user beware - YMMV.


Unfortunately, this warning has always been necessary with TIGER files. 
 They're not the best GIS data source.  They're just available and free.

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Re: [Xastir] WXSVR dead?

2008-07-10 Thread Gerry Creager
L1 kinematic surveys are really the norm.  IF you're doing a RTK survey 
you will get stellar performance.  IF you use L1/DGPS post-processing, 
it'll depend a lot on the stability and goodness of your L1 DGPS site 
and processing


Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

Seeing no messages and its icon in the Gulf of Mexico is missing.

Now back to my preparations for a exercise in frustration: A kinematic 
survey of a campground using just an L1 receiver tomorrow.


73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO
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Re: [Xastir] APRS-IS without authentication?

2008-07-10 Thread Gerry Creager
At this time, but changing in a week or so, the APRS-IS Core systems do 
not require authentication.  Tier2 servers, for the most part have gone 
to requiring it.  The Core is going to it.  The reason the Core hasn't 
gone there so far is to allow "just a little more" transition time for 
the CWOP users, often less tech-savvy than hams, to learn they've gotta 
migrate to the new CWOP servers (running similar javAPRSsrvr code.


gerry

Tom Hayward wrote:

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Rick Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

'authentacate' myself with my callsign and passcode.  I thought that was
only supposed to be necessary in order to inject data to the APRS-IS, but I
find that I get no stations at all displayed unless I authenticate. This is
both on port 23000 and 14580.  Is this by design, or am I missong some
critical piece of information?

Rick Green, N8BJX


"Disallow unauthenticated" is an option in the javAPRSSrvr software
(the software behind the APRS-IS). Configuration of this option is
left to the discretion of individual server owners, so your results
may vary by server. For most servers, I expect you'll need to enter
your passcode to get any data.

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Re: [Xastir] APRS-IS without authentication?

2008-07-08 Thread Gerry Creager

You're using Tier 2 servers, right?

Rick Green wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Jason KG4WSV wrote:


On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Rick Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Sometimes, I'd like to bring up xastir on my laptop and connect to an
internet server just to see what's going on in the neighborhood.  I've
found, however, that I don't get any data from the aprs-is unless I
'authentacate' myself with my callsign and passcode.


do you have a position-dependent filter?

I had the same problem, until I figured out that with my filter to
only show me stations near my position (the r filter?) I needed to
send a position report for the filter to have enough data to work.

 I had discovered that a while ago, so I converted to the 'a' filter 
where I explicitly declare the bounds.  But yesterday, I found that even 
an 'a' filter, or even the unfiltered 'firehose' feed was silent until I 
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Re: [Xastir] wms radar

2008-07-08 Thread Gerry Creager
Looks like another problem has cropped up.  As soon as I can get a few 
free cycles I'll be looking at this today.


gerry

Steve Friis wrote:

vic wrote:

Yea man, working like a champ!
Take your time, I just was wondering what was happening.
73 de k4xtt vic

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:41:35 -0500
Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is it back?  I'm seeing some graphics.  Resurrected a lot of hardware 
today.  Lots to do... AFTER Hurricane Bertha is resolved.


gerry




I am still nor seeing them. Is it possible some regions are on and 
others like ours here is still disconnected? Not sure what you send us.





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Re: [Xastir] wms radar

2008-07-07 Thread Gerry Creager

Let's see...

2 LDAP servers got unhappy, then the big NFS server got locked up (and 
had a pair of SMART disk errors, one on each of two striped RAIDs).  The 
box 'mesonet.tamu.edu' couldn't get authentication info AND couldn't 
access images from the NFS server.  Another NFS server had system disk 
block errors.  And a 13TB RAID shelf had a single drive 128-byte block 
error.


I'm never taking vacation again.

gerry

vic wrote:

Yea man, working like a champ!
Take your time, I just was wondering what was happening.
73 de k4xtt vic

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:41:35 -0500
Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is it back?  I'm seeing some graphics.  Resurrected a lot of hardware 
today.  Lots to do... AFTER Hurricane Bertha is resolved.


gerry

vic wrote:

I really like the font now.
I cannot get wms radar images with the current CVS version. Anybody know why?
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Re: [Xastir] wms radar

2008-07-07 Thread Gerry Creager
Is it back?  I'm seeing some graphics.  Resurrected a lot of hardware 
today.  Lots to do... AFTER Hurricane Bertha is resolved.


gerry

vic wrote:

I really like the font now.
I cannot get wms radar images with the current CVS version. Anybody know why?
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Re: [Xastir] WMSRadar down?

2008-07-07 Thread Gerry Creager
LDAP and RAID problems.  I got the LDAP problem fixed last night.  The 
RAID didn't become obvious 'til after that, and I was already back home 
(and too tired to be allowed near hardware again).  I hope to have it 
back up this morning.  Sorry!


gerry

Steve Friis wrote:

Seems that the weather radars are not working???

Since 6/5/...

curlerr: couldn't connect to host
Perhaps a timeout? Try increasing "Internet Map Timout".
curl told us 7
curlerr: couldn't connect to host
Perhaps a timeout? Try increasing "Internet Map Timout".




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Re: [Xastir] Canadian Topo Maps

2008-06-25 Thread Gerry Creager

Mac is BSD unix under the hood with a cool gui.

It's saying there's no images directory under your working directory. 
I'll try to look into this later today or tonight but I'm getting back 
to a recalcitrant hpc cluster right now.


gerry

Nick wrote:

I tried that and this is what I got:

perl /Applications/xastir/scripts/toporama50k.pl
find: ./images: No such file or directory
find: ./images: No such file or directory
Writing .geo files

Done.
Nicks-Laptop:maps snobrdnick$


BTW, I am on a Mac

Gerry Creager wrote:
Try 'perl toporama50k.pl'.  That's a perl script.  And, linux doesn't 
employ a 'run' command.  However, in looking at a local copy of the 
script here, you can also try './toporama50k.pl' (without the "'" of 
course), and it should run.


We need to change the script run istructions a little bit to 
accommodate the folks unfamiliar with Linux/Unix.  I see that we are 
assuming a few things we shouldn't in the explanation.


gerry

Nick wrote:
I located the map dir and the toporama.pl files, I read through the 
file and looked at the map files on Steve's website.  In terminal I 
changed the directory, etc.what is the proper command to 'Run' 
the scripts?  I tried 'run 
/Applications/xastir/scripts/toporama50k.pl' but only got a -bash: 
run: command not found


Thanks,

Nick
KC7RGL

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Nick wrote:

 
   How do I properly execute this command to download the Canada 
Topo Maps?



Look at the script.  They're in xastir/scripts/ before install.
Usually in the comments at the top of each script are instructions
for running them.

After install they're in /usr/local/lib/xastir/, but that might be a
different place on a Mac.

toporama250k.pl
toporama50k.pl

These require Perl5 or better to be installed/working on the box
too.

  

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Re: [Xastir] Canadian Topo Maps

2008-06-25 Thread Gerry Creager
Try 'perl toporama50k.pl'.  That's a perl script.  And, linux doesn't 
employ a 'run' command.  However, in looking at a local copy of the 
script here, you can also try './toporama50k.pl' (without the "'" of 
course), and it should run.


We need to change the script run istructions a little bit to accommodate 
the folks unfamiliar with Linux/Unix.  I see that we are assuming a few 
things we shouldn't in the explanation.


gerry

Nick wrote:
I located the map dir and the toporama.pl files, I read through the file 
and looked at the map files on Steve's website.  In terminal I changed 
the directory, etc.what is the proper command to 'Run' the scripts?  
I tried 'run /Applications/xastir/scripts/toporama50k.pl' but only got a 
-bash: run: command not found


Thanks,

Nick
KC7RGL

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Nick wrote:

 
   How do I properly execute this command to download the Canada Topo 
Maps?



Look at the script.  They're in xastir/scripts/ before install.
Usually in the comments at the top of each script are instructions
for running them.

After install they're in /usr/local/lib/xastir/, but that might be a
different place on a Mac.

toporama250k.pl
toporama50k.pl

These require Perl5 or better to be installed/working on the box
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Re: [Xastir] [opensuse-ham] Ham Radio Packages for openSUSE 11.0 // Amateur funkpakete für openSUSE 11.0 (fwd)

2008-06-23 Thread Gerry Creager
OK, you're an old unix hack.  I learned to adapt to KDE, then they 
overbloated it.  FVWM2 is looking better and better.


Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, Lee Bengston wrote:


Yeah, my first venture into openSUSE was about a year ago with 10.2. I
did a clean install into VMware with the "Network" CD image, and I
remember all the manual entry of repositories.  I'm glad it's better
now.  For 11.0, I did a clean install using the KDE live CD, and it's
native Linux - no Windows/VMware.  On 11.0 are you using KDE or Gnome,
and if KDE, is it 4.0?  Mine is on KDE 4.0.  I'm thinking the font
issue may be related to KDE 4.0 and/or some kind of desktop efffects
or 3D settings.


I guess you'd call me an old Unix hack:  I don't much like KDE or
Gnome, so I use FVWM2.  I like the system to _jump_ when I click a
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Re: [Xastir] Any ideas? YB8ZD->NWS_APRS

2008-06-18 Thread Gerry Creager

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Getting these lines in the console I started Xastir in. Hundreds of 'em
over and over. Don't think it's a problem in Xastir. More curious as to
what it may mean.



sscanf parsed 1 values in alert.c (3-7 ok) YB8ZD->NWS_APRS: logsheet APRS
Net diposting pd milis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sscanf parsed 1/3 values in alert.c


Someone apparently sending NWS weather data, but in an incorrect
format ("NWS_").  Not an Xastir error, but an info message letting
you know somebody's doing something wonky.


Curious why an Indonesian club would want to send NWS data.  Looks like 
he's really trying to send a bulletin.


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Re: [Xastir] FIltering FOR NWS Watchbox Polygons

2008-06-15 Thread Gerry Creager
No.  I have not (yet) tested this but I'll try shortly.  I sent that 
last night after a long day and at the point of needing sleep rather 
than time playing with software, so this was a thought to be played with.


gerry

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Gerry Creager wrote:


Do I need to take my product for watches and warnings and create yet another
WMS layer?  Oh, yeah: I do have that.

http://mesonet.tamu.edu/cgi-bin/pan?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=getcapabilities
is the getCapabilities document.  Formation of the call would be similar to
the WMS call for radar.  Curt, shouldn't the same code support both?


I would think so.  The WMS code doesn't get used for a lot of
different sites, but I've tested a bit with out sites and types of
things in the past and it has worked for me.

Are you having a problem with the new URL in Xastir?



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Re: [Xastir] FIltering FOR NWS Watchbox Polygons

2008-06-14 Thread Gerry Creager
Do I need to take my product for watches and warnings and create yet 
another WMS layer?  Oh, yeah: I do have that.


http://mesonet.tamu.edu/cgi-bin/pan?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=getcapabilities 
is the getCapabilities document.  Formation of the call would be similar 
to the WMS call for radar.  Curt, shouldn't the same code support both?


Also, if you ask nicely this WMS will give you both radar and the 
watches/warnings.


FOR the record, warnings now are county-based rather than the old, 
familiar parallelograms.  Warnings for Thunderstorm, Tornado, Flash 
Flood, and Special Marine are polygon-based (or Storm-based).


gerry

Eric Germann wrote:

Colleagues,

I spent some time last night beating my head on the wall trying to figure
out why NWS Watch/Warning polygons weren't coming up when I zoomed way out
to watch the storms a couple of states away.

So I brought up their polygons via SHP files and couldn't see them.  Of
course, without a dbfawk file, they're black, so on my black background,
they were missing.  Problem solved there.

But I still couldn't figure out why the "normal" watch warning polygons
weren't coming up.  Today they're up since we're getting hammered again in
West Central Ohio.

Then it dawned on me.  They're coming via APRS-IS feeds and I have a 320km
radius filter set.

What I want to accomplish is to have nationwide watch warnings without
polling NWS every couple of minutes.  Seems like the way to do it is to
create another link to my internal APRS server (which is linked to
APRS-IS, so I don't have a bunch of clients polling the core) with a
filter set to only catch the polygon announcements.  Only issue is, I
don't what the packets look like or how to build that filter.  I'd like to
keep the 320 km limit for stations which is a pretty good field of view on
a 22" monitor.

Any ideas, thoughts?  Or would the better approach be to just use the NWS
files for farther out and write up the dbfawk files (not an issue to do
that).  As an academic exercise, the multiline polygons would be
interesting over APRS and filtering them.

73 de N1ICS
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Re: [Xastir] still trying to install on Fedora 9

2008-05-29 Thread Gerry Creager

but without shouting :-)

Eric Christensen wrote:

SUDO YUM INSTALL XASTIR

Gerry Creager wrote:

Real geeks don't use the GUI to update software;-)

gerry

kc7zru wrote:
Thanks for the heads up on the "add remove software" changes! Looks 
like we'll have to go CLI to keep things universal across GUI changes.


I've modified the entry in the Wiki to make it work for releases from 
F7 to F9 - lemme know what you think.


FWIW, I've built Xastir on 3 different F9 machines using that Wiki 
'checklist' - just never had to install the development stuff. The 
CVS servers can be slow - very slow - too )@#! slow at times. But 
they do work, eventually.


73

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BTW, an earlier part of the wiki doesn't work with Fedora 9. The 
package management is quite different in Fedora 9, and there is no 
Applications>Add/Remove Software option.  Instead we have 
System>Administration>Add/Remove packages but you have to specify 
individual packages, not "development tools:.  Below does not exist:


If by chance, you didn't install Fedora with the required 
development tools, start the 'Add/Remove Software' tool from the 
Applications Menu. Choose 'Development' and make sure you have the 
following groups installed:


* Development Libraries
* Development Tools
* Gnome or KDE development (depending on your desktop of choice)
* X Software Development

I've heard of folks successfully building Xastir on Fedora 9, so I 
guess I need to find the source somewhere other than cvs?


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Re: [Xastir] still trying to install on Fedora 9

2008-05-29 Thread Gerry Creager

You may have already heard this, but...

as root:
yum install graphicsmagick-devel

gerry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yeah, but here is the interesting part.  ImageMagick was already installed on 
my computer.  Not sure why it isn't working but the package maintainer is on 
the job.  He filed a NEEDINFO and I just sent it to him.



Well, there's your problem! (right?) 'XPM and/or ImageMagick support have not been 
compiled in." Isn't Image/GraphicsMagick required to display online maps? Also 
suggest they use GraphicsMagick over ImageMagick due to the historical problems with 
a dynamic API.


Admittedly I don't know enough to tell if this is relevant, but when I tried to 
compile (on Fedora 9 - arghhh) from CVS sources without ImageMagick, I kept 
getting an error about GraphicsMagick even though the GraphicsMagick library 
was in /usr/lib and /etc/ld.so.conf contained that path:

checking for GraphicsMagick-config... /usr/bin/GraphicsMagick-config 
checking GraphicsMagick/magick/api.h usability... yes 
checking GraphicsMagick/magick/api.h presence... yes 
checking for GraphicsMagick/magick/api.h... yes 
checking for WriteImage in -lGraphicsMagick... no 
configure: WARNING: *** Cannot find GraphicsMagick library files: 
Building w/o GraphicsMagick support. *** 
checking for Magick-config... no 


When I yum installed ImageMagick-devel the above GraphicsMagick error went 
away, but I still have no online maps...  Just an FYI.

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Re: [Xastir] still trying to install on Fedora 9

2008-05-29 Thread Gerry Creager

Real geeks don't use the GUI to update software;-)

gerry

kc7zru wrote:
Thanks for the heads up on the "add remove software" changes! Looks like 
we'll have to go CLI to keep things universal across GUI changes.


I've modified the entry in the Wiki to make it work for releases from F7 
to F9 - lemme know what you think.


FWIW, I've built Xastir on 3 different F9 machines using that Wiki 
'checklist' - just never had to install the development stuff. The CVS 
servers can be slow - very slow - too )@#! slow at times. But they do 
work, eventually.


73

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BTW, an earlier part of the wiki doesn't work with Fedora 9. The 
package management is quite different in Fedora 9, and there is no 
Applications>Add/Remove Software option.  Instead we have 
System>Administration>Add/Remove packages but you have to specify 
individual packages, not "development tools:.  Below does not exist:


If by chance, you didn't install Fedora with the required development 
tools, start the 'Add/Remove Software' tool from the Applications 
Menu. Choose 'Development' and make sure you have the following groups 
installed:


* Development Libraries
* Development Tools
* Gnome or KDE development (depending on your desktop of choice)
* X Software Development

I've heard of folks successfully building Xastir on Fedora 9, so I 
guess I need to find the source somewhere other than cvs?


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Re: [Xastir] VMWare Network issue

2008-05-16 Thread Gerry Creager
Reformat and install linux?  Reformat and install XP?  Either will work 
better than Vista...


gerry

William McKeehan wrote:

I just had not scrolled down far enough in the wiki I guess.

Zone Alarm was not my problem, but it is firewall related. The laptop is
running Vista and Vista's firewall was on. I'll explore what I need to change
there to make it work, but turning off the firewall has it functional, so I
know that's where the problem is.

Thanks! I'll let everyone know how it turns out.


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Re: [Xastir] Couple house-keeping things

2008-05-01 Thread Gerry Creager

Let me ask my my USGS Staet Mapping contact and get back to you on this.

gerry

William McKeehan wrote:

I downloaded the most recent GNIS Data from the USGS
(http://geonames.usgs.gov/domestic/index.html) earlier this week and was
disappointed to remember that the new data does not contain as much info as
the old data. The biggest thing that I noticed missing was the Estimated
Population. Without that, it's hard for mapping data to differentiate between
large cities and small cities, so it's basically an all or nothing display.

Has anyone done any research to see if the data is available from another
source that would provide Xastir with the information that it needs?

One thing that may be nice to have is the FIPS data
(http://geonames.usgs.gov/domestic/fips55codedef.html), with the
classification information there, we could turn on/off features based on type.



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Re: [Xastir] SX Blue II GPS

2008-04-30 Thread Gerry Creager
While I'm fond of the hat, claiming a precision antenna is more'n a 
little bogus to a surveyor.  We have to align the reference point of the 
antenna to north (with some degree of repeatability; not all antennas 
are really the same in pattern) and "measure up" from the point of 
measurement to the antenna.  I suspect there's some variability in the 
folks on this list who might be willing to wear the hat...


gerry

Jason KG4WSV wrote:

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Lance Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Nothing special here.


Oh, I don't know about that  - the hat looked pretty "special" to me. (:

Seriously, the 20Hz update rate was interesting, mostly because I'm
thinking of some rocket applications.

I googled around and found someone with a price listed - $2095 (no, I
did _not_ forget the decimal point).

-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] USRadar problems

2008-04-11 Thread Gerry Creager
Let me go get GM on the systems in question.  Thanks.  I have followed 
the discussions, just hadn't implemented it.


gerry

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Gerry Creager wrote:


There's an obvious problem on the system where I *thought* ImageMagick (and (
really do have a love-hate relationship with that package)


You and who else?  GM is the way to go.  Does the same thing only
better (generally).  GraphicsMagick is a fork of the IM project.

As far as Xastir goes, if both IM and GM are installed, and the
devel packages for each, Xastir will compile in GM.

If libcurl and wget are both installed, as well as libcurl-devel,
Xastir will compile in libcurl support.

I'm pretty sure Gerry already knows all the above as he's been
around our mailing list for a bunch of years now.  The above is for
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Re: [Xastir] USRadar problems

2008-04-11 Thread Gerry Creager

Just got to check. Tie points should be correct on the new URL I sent out.

gerry n5jxs

Rick Green wrote:
We've got some severe weather advisories goin on this afternoon here in 
Michigan.
  And I just realized that I haven't seen a blip from USRADAR in weeks. 
At the moment, wunderground.com's NEXRAD display shows quite a bit of 
activity in the area I'm displaying on xastir, which is showing all clear.


I've got my internet map timeout set for 100 seconds, and I only see the 
'fetching USRADAR.geo' message for about 5 seconds, so I don't think its 
a connectivity problem, especially since I'm getting tigermap data just 
fine.


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Re: [Xastir] USRadar problems

2008-04-11 Thread Gerry Creager

Sorry for the problem!  And thanks for finding it for me!

gerry

Rick Green wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Gerry Creager wrote:


Replace the URL line with
URLhttp://mesonet.tamu.edu/gemdata/images/01_USrad.gif


Yeah! that got me data.  Just as the storms are clearing my county...



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Re: [Xastir] USRadar problems

2008-04-11 Thread Gerry Creager

ick Green wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Gerry Creager wrote:

Send me the .geo file.  The radar images are there.  I just checked. 
And available via WMS, too.


 Here's what I think I'm using.  I've got about six on my system, and I 
can never remember which directory xastir is looking in for this release 
(1.9.1).
  I grabbed this one out of /usr/share/xastir/maps/Online/ which is the 
AUTOMAP directory listed in my current xastir.cnf file


#
# $Id: USRadar.geo,v 1.4 2004/03/15 17:08:23 we7u Exp $
#
#US Composite Radar image (Unidata/LDM/Gempak) n5jxs 2003 08 25
# Modified for accuracy, comments:  n5jxs 2004 03 15 1400UTC
#
# If you want to get a different image-type, change the selection
# below by removing the '#' from the front of the URL, and placing
# a '#' before all URLs for image-types you don't want.
# I don't know what will happen if you have multiple URLs selected.
URL http://mesonet.tamu.edu/gemdata/images/radar/01_USrad.png


There's an obvious problem on the system where I *thought* ImageMagick 
(and ( really do have a love-hate relationship with that package) was 
placing the converted imagery.  I'll look.


Replace the URL line with
URL http://mesonet.tamu.edu/gemdata/images/01_USrad.gif

I cannot confirm the tiepoints immediately but as soon as I can, I will.

gerry

#URL http://mesonet.tamu.edu/gemdata/images/radar/01_USrad.gif
#URL http://mesonet.tamu.edu/gemdata/images/radar/01_USrad.jpg
#URL http://mesonet.tamu.edu/gemdata/images/radar/01_USrad.tif
#
#
#   X   Y   LongLat
TIEPOINT200 200 -123.0  48.0
TIEPOINT59992499-65.0   23.0
# Image extents: Lat: 23.0N to 50.0N, Lon: 65.0W to 125.0W (-65.0 to 
-125.0)

# Image size extents: X: 6000 pixels, Y: 2650 pixels (.01 deg/pixel)
IMAGESIZE 6000 2500
#
# REFRESH tells your program just how often to retrieve the radar
# image.  Images are recreated on the server every 6 minutes (720
# sec).
REFRESH 720
# Transparent tells the program and image handling software what
# color is to be considered transparent.  In this case, it's white
# and valid for a 24-bit color map.
#TRANSPARENT 0xff
# The following should work for a 16-bit color map.
#TRANSPARENT 0x0
# The following should work for all color maps, now.
TRANSPARENT 0x0

 From what I remember, this is stock from the distro, with the only 
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Re: [Xastir] D700 Connection

2008-04-11 Thread Gerry Creager

Speaking of which, first is going down shortly for emergency maintenance.

gerry

Keith Kaiser wrote:
I reinstalled rotate, and told it to start, and to my astonishment it 
started. I'll stop all the others and leave just this one for now and 
see how it works.


Thanks for getting me to revisit this.


On Apr 11, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Jason KG4WSV wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Keith Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

I know that rotate.aprs.net is the default, but when I leave that one in
there only, nothing seems to happen.


that _could_ be another indication you have a network problem.
rotate.aprs.net just returns one of first, second, or third (at the
moment).

The point to rotate is that it insulates you from core changes.  For
example if "fourth" is added, you automatically get it; if third has
some scheduled downtime, it would be temporarily removed from rotate
to avoid connectivity problems.

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Re: [Xastir] USRadar problems

2008-04-11 Thread Gerry Creager
Send me the .geo file.  The radar images are there.  I just checked. 
And available via WMS, too.


gerry

Rick Green wrote:
We've got some severe weather advisories goin on this afternoon here in 
Michigan.
  And I just realized that I haven't seen a blip from USRADAR in weeks. 
At the moment, wunderground.com's NEXRAD display shows quite a bit of 
activity in the area I'm displaying on xastir, which is showing all clear.


I've got my internet map timeout set for 100 seconds, and I only see the 
'fetching USRADAR.geo' message for about 5 seconds, so I don't think its 
a connectivity problem, especially since I'm getting tigermap data just 
fine.


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Re: [Xastir] A rant on the shapefiles...

2008-04-09 Thread Gerry Creager
Curt did such a nice job of summarizing what I could have said in 10k 
words  gerry


Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:


I am wondering who participated in getting these maps made? Was it state,
county, feds?


Blame the census takers.  Feds.  Federalies.  Men in black?

For the purpose of taking the every-10-year federal census they've
kept track of roads.  Unfortunately the census-takers haven't had
any cartography training (hey, it's really not their job, right?).
The maps were not intended to be used for the purposes people put
them to.  That philosophy is changing a bit lately and they're
trying to do a better job on the data.  I suspect Gerry or Tom can
fill us in on the details, but that's my vague recollection.

Even with that less than stellar cartography start, they're awfully
nice road maps, and free.  Hard to beat that in most other
countries!

Many of the commercial mapping programs start with Tiger data as
their base and add to/correct it.



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Re: [Xastir] Slashgeo | TIGER Data Finally Out SHP Format

2008-04-03 Thread Gerry Creager

Only if I had time.  I've systems that are misbehaving.

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:
Naw, I am just going to go down into my mancave and pine away at the new 
files.with a sliver of hope of grabbing them all today. Woodn't you 
too?


73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO


Gerry Creager wrote:

We wouldnt want you bored, now would we?

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

And I just downloaded all of the NOW old US files. So goes my life.

Now to write another script...

73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO


Gerry Creager wrote:

http://technology.slashgeo.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/01/1055250




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Re: [Xastir] Slashgeo | TIGER Data Finally Out SHP Format

2008-04-03 Thread Gerry Creager

We wouldnt want you bored, now would we?

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

And I just downloaded all of the NOW old US files. So goes my life.

Now to write another script...

73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO


Gerry Creager wrote:

http://technology.slashgeo.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/01/1055250


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[Xastir] Slashgeo | TIGER Data Finally Out SHP Format

2008-04-02 Thread Gerry Creager

http://technology.slashgeo.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/01/1055250
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Re: [Xastir] Xastir web interface?

2008-04-02 Thread Gerry Creager

cron is likely not loading _your_ environment completely.

Recommend you write a script to do this, and include the ImageMagick 
command in that.  In the script, source or otherwise set your normal 
environment.  THEN try it.


gerry

Dave H wrote:

Thanks Tom

I'll see about updating it - but probably wont be able to. I just wonder why
cron isn't working -
when the command line is.

I've looked in the man pages for Imagemagick and cron and can't see where
I'm going wrong.
I'm running convert from the full path.

I have read about someone using gnome-screengrab (or something like that) as
an alternative
- they screen grabbed xwindow 0 image to home direectory then cron'd ftp
upload.

Dave
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On 01/04/2008, Tom Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 11:13:50PM +0100, we recorded a bogon-computron
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:


I took a quick look at this today and found it produces snapshot.xpm - I

had

a think and decided it might be nice to CRON a conversion from xpm to

gif

and then cron the gif by ftp to a website regularly.


It is supposed also to produce snapshot.png if you have ImageMagick
installed
in such a way that Xastir's configure process can find it.  Xastir uses
ImageMagick to convert the xpm file to .png.  That it isn't doing that for
you
suggests there's something wrong with your install and ImageMagick isn't
being found when it's built.  The fall-back position to not having
ImageMagick
is to use the XPM library instead.


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Re: [Xastir] iBook USB to MacBook Pro USB

2008-03-24 Thread Gerry Creager
you might also be able to use 'dmesg' and/or look at the results of 
'/sbin/lsusb'


gerry

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Keith Kaiser wrote:


On my old iBook I connected to my D700 through the USB port using /dev/
cu.USA19H191P1.1, but this is not working on my new MacBook Pro. Does
anyone know what I should be using or how to determine it. I'm still
using the same Keyspan USB to serial converter that I did before so
I'm pretty sure the number is correct.

When I try to connect, nothing happens, it doesn't blink, fail, start,
nothing. So I'm guessing it's the device. I looked in the system
profiler and the Mac can see the Keyspan device so that part of the
connection is OK, but it doesn't tell me the port its on or more
likely, I don't know how to read it. Any help would be appreciated.


What I do on Linux to find out a device name is do "tail -f
/var/log/messages" and then plug in the device and see what shows
up.

With my USB joystick I had to do some more stuff before I could use
it with BZFlag, but the above method told me which port it was on.

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Re: [Xastir] WMSRadar and net acquired .gif

2008-03-23 Thread Gerry Creager
I can't get much more info today but I'll ask the Radar Operations 
Center, tomorrow, to confirm the coordinates of the station.  I created 
that .geo based on the range from the one you were working off of 
before, and the site coordinates I have from their files.


I will look again to make sure I didn't fat-finger something, but I am 
not real comfortable with the data the RIDGE project creates.  I've had 
some issues in the past with georegistration of their images.  That is 
one reason I do my own radar imagery.


gerry

Jim Morgan wrote:
This is still not correct. The center is much to far south and the image 
is the right shape but not as big as it needs to be. Maybe I don't 
understand what I am doing here. Where can I get info on .geo files and 
how they work?




*/Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:

1. Glad I finally found and fixed that bug. I still don't know how it
got in there... I really compulsed that system when I first did it, and
there's no indication in the .wld file that I changed it (I document
things like that...).
2. I suspect the data are a little off for the MAF radar...Try this for
a .geo for it:

#NWS_RADAR_maf MIDLAND TX kg5qd 07/04/01
URL http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0Z/MAF_N0Z_0.gif
# X Y Long Lat
TIEPOINT 0 0 -103.907157 33.406062
TIEPOINT 600 500 -100.471343 30.480860
IMAGESIZE 600 500
REFRESH 300
TRANSPARENT 0x0
GAMMA 2
#CONTRAST 0
#LEVEL


Jim Morgan wrote:
 > We finally had some weather around here today so that I could see
if you
 > fixed it. I think you did. THANK YOU muchly.
 >
 > You asked why NOZ instead of NOR- when I was setting this up and
playing
 > with it MAF didn't have a NOR image for some reason and I picked
the NOZ
 > just so I'd have something to look at. I guess I forgot to set it
back
 > to NOR.
 >
 > Here is the srb_maf.geo file that showed the storms Sunday night too
 > close to Midland-
 >
 > #NWS_RADAR_maf MIDLAND TX kg5qd 07/04/01
 > URL http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0Z/MAF_N0Z_0.gif
 > # X Y Long Lat
 > TIEPOINT 0 0 -103.928436 33.385647
 > TIEPOINT 600 500 -100.492622 30.457445
 > IMAGESIZE 600 500
 > REFRESH 300
 > TRANSPARENT 0x00000
     > GAMMA 2
 > #CONTRAST 0
 > #LEVEL
 >
 > 73s,
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > */Gerry Creager /* wrote:
 >
 > Please try the WMSRadar selection. I found an error that'd been
 > propagated to my server and I think it's fixed now.
 >
 > gerry
 >
 > Jim Morgan wrote:
 > > I need some help. I am new to Linux and Xastir both so please
 > keep things simple for me.
 > >
 > > I noticed today that the radar that I load from the website
 > www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/NOZ/MAF_NOZ_0.gif is off by several
 > miles. I am talking in the neighborhood of 50-75 miles. When I
 > adjust the size of the .gif the center of the radar (the ground
 > clutter) moves around as I change the size. I had the ground clutter
 > centered but the edge of a recent storm was real far off.
 > >
 > > So I tried the WMSRadar on my Xastir and discovered that the
 > image is indeed better but it shows the storms about 120 miles north
 > of their actual location.
 > >
 > > What setting(s) do I have wrong? The purpose of this set-up is to
 > serve as a remote station for Skywarn operations if something
 > happens at the NWS so I need the radar to be as accurate as possible.
 > >
 > > Oh the technical stuff-- Ubuntu 6.06 and Xastir 1.71. I am not
 > much of a programmer so this is all real close to OEM specs.
 > >
 > > Thank you for your help,
 > >
 > > 73s
 > > Jim KE5MKT
 > >
 > >
 > > Jim Morgan KE5MKT
 > > Midland, TX 79703-6318
 > > USA
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Re: [Xastir] Re: Xastir Digest, Vol 32, Issue 19

2008-03-17 Thread Gerry Creager
Feedback I've gotten from NWS on their preferences for severe wx, 
spotters and radar is to have radar atop everything except spotters.


That said, everyone is able to change layers as they see fit...

gerry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why not just set the radar layer as the bottom layer and draw everything on
top of that? I think you have to turn on automaps for it to work correctly,
though.

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:38 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What he was looking for was a way to make the radar
image translucent inside Xastir so that any other
layers inside Xastir would show through the colored
areas of the radar image.  However, since Xastir
doesn't support alpha blending at the moment, this
can't be done.  I don't believe the image code in
Xastir would even honor any alpha channel data in a
GIF either.

Just another tick mark for Xastir 2, right? :)


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Re: [Xastir] Feature Request re: Shapefile maps

2008-03-16 Thread Gerry Creager
Lemme get off 4 days of spring break and I'll push it your way tomorrow 
morning.


Sorry for the delay but between honey-do's, allergies, and wanting to 
make sure it's behaving properly, I want the delay...


gerry

Eric Germann wrote:

What's your WMS address for each of these?

EKG


Gerry Creager wrote:
I need to look into this and see if I can produce something similar. 
Ken Waters does these for storm-based warnings. I currently have a WFS 
that handles this but I don't generate shapes.  I can also provide WMS 
for these.


gerry

Eric Germann wrote:
I'm experimenting with the GIS maps from the NWS at 
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/regsci/gis/shapefiles/


They work, with one caveat:  They don't show up in the Map Chooser 
(even on a map re-scan) if they have 0 shapes in the shape file.


Is there any way, or a pointer to the code to fix it myself and 
submit a diff back, where this is handled.  To get around it, I 
copied a shape file with polygons over it to the same file, did a 
rescan so they show up, then put them back after I selected them.


Essentially, in this case, the map chooser should consider a 0 shape 
shapefile valid.  This is a fun one to reproduce because the source 
files at NWS are changed on a 1 minute basis.


Which leads to second question, does Xastir automatically re-render 
these when they change or is there something I need to do to make it so.


Thanks

EKG
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Re: [Xastir] Feature Request re: Shapefile maps

2008-03-16 Thread Gerry Creager
I need to look into this and see if I can produce something similar. 
Ken Waters does these for storm-based warnings. I currently have a WFS 
that handles this but I don't generate shapes.  I can also provide WMS 
for these.


gerry

Eric Germann wrote:
I'm experimenting with the GIS maps from the NWS at 
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/regsci/gis/shapefiles/


They work, with one caveat:  They don't show up in the Map Chooser (even 
on a map re-scan) if they have 0 shapes in the shape file.


Is there any way, or a pointer to the code to fix it myself and submit a 
diff back, where this is handled.  To get around it, I copied a shape 
file with polygons over it to the same file, did a rescan so they show 
up, then put them back after I selected them.


Essentially, in this case, the map chooser should consider a 0 shape 
shapefile valid.  This is a fun one to reproduce because the source 
files at NWS are changed on a 1 minute basis.


Which leads to second question, does Xastir automatically re-render 
these when they change or is there something I need to do to make it so.


Thanks

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Re: [Xastir] WMSRadar and net acquired .gif

2008-03-11 Thread Gerry Creager
1.  Glad I finally found and fixed that bug.  I still don't know how it 
got in there... I really compulsed that system when I first did it, and 
there's no indication in the .wld file that I changed it (I document 
things like that...).
2.  I suspect the data are a little off for the MAF radar...Try this for 
a .geo for it:


#NWS_RADAR_maf  MIDLAND TX kg5qd 07/04/01
URLhttp://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0Z/MAF_N0Z_0.gif
#XYLongLat
TIEPOINT00-103.90715733.406062
TIEPOINT600500-100.47134330.480860
IMAGESIZE 600 500
REFRESH 300
TRANSPARENT 0x0
GAMMA 2
#CONTRAST 0
#LEVEL


Jim Morgan wrote:
We finally had some weather around here today so that I could see if you 
fixed it. I think you did. THANK YOU muchly.


You asked why NOZ instead of NOR- when I was setting this up and playing 
with it MAF didn't have a NOR image for some reason and I picked the NOZ 
just so I'd have something to look at. I guess I forgot to set it back 
to NOR.


Here is the srb_maf.geo file that showed the storms Sunday night too 
close to Midland-


#NWS_RADAR_maf  MIDLAND TX kg5qd 07/04/01
URLhttp://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0Z/MAF_N0Z_0.gif
#XYLongLat
TIEPOINT00-103.92843633.385647
TIEPOINT600500-100.49262230.457445
IMAGESIZE 600 500
REFRESH 300
TRANSPARENT 0x0
GAMMA 2
#CONTRAST 0
#LEVEL

73s,




*/Gerry Creager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:

Please try the WMSRadar selection. I found an error that'd been
propagated to my server and I think it's fixed now.

gerry

Jim Morgan wrote:
 > I need some help. I am new to Linux and Xastir both so please
keep things simple for me.
 >
 > I noticed today that the radar that I load from the website
www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/NOZ/MAF_NOZ_0.gif is off by several
miles. I am talking in the neighborhood of 50-75 miles. When I
adjust the size of the .gif the center of the radar (the ground
clutter) moves around as I change the size. I had the ground clutter
centered but the edge of a recent storm was real far off.
 >
 > So I tried the WMSRadar on my Xastir and discovered that the
image is indeed better but it shows the storms about 120 miles north
of their actual location.
 >
 > What setting(s) do I have wrong? The purpose of this set-up is to
serve as a remote station for Skywarn operations if something
happens at the NWS so I need the radar to be as accurate as possible.
 >
 > Oh the technical stuff-- Ubuntu 6.06 and Xastir 1.71. I am not
much of a programmer so this is all real close to OEM specs.
 >
 > Thank you for your help,
 >
 > 73s
 > Jim KE5MKT
 >
 >
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Re: [Xastir] WMSRadar and net acquired .gif

2008-03-10 Thread Gerry Creager
Please try the WMSRadar selection.  I found an error that'd been 
propagated to my server and I think it's fixed now.


gerry

Jim Morgan wrote:

I need some help. I am new to Linux and Xastir both so please keep things 
simple for me.

I noticed today that the radar that I load from the website www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/NOZ/MAF_NOZ_0.gif is off by several miles. I am talking in the neighborhood of 50-75 miles. When I adjust the size of the .gif the center of the radar (the ground clutter) moves around as I change the size. I had the ground clutter centered but the edge of a recent storm was real far off. 


So I tried the WMSRadar on my Xastir and discovered that the image is indeed 
better but it shows the storms about 120 miles north of their actual location.

What setting(s) do I have wrong? The purpose of this set-up is to serve as a 
remote station for Skywarn operations if something happens at the NWS so I need 
the radar to be as accurate as possible.

Oh the technical stuff-- Ubuntu 6.06 and Xastir 1.71. I am not much of a 
programmer so this is all real close to OEM specs.

Thank you for your help,

73s
Jim KE5MKT


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Re: [Xastir] WMSRadar and net acquired .gif

2008-03-09 Thread Gerry Creager
I do the radar mosaic and something's definately off with that.  I've 
been troubleshooting but I don't have an answer.


I'll try a new approach tomorrow or Tuesday for this.

Send me your appropriate RIDGE .geo for MAF.  I'll compare it to what I 
have and see if we can get it better...


Also: Why N0Z?  I prefer N0R for base reflectivity (from a sorta 
professional view).


Anyone want to work with me to make individual Level II sites available? 
 I haven't time to script up the .geo's but can provide the data on 
site image dimensions...


gerry

Jim Morgan wrote:

I need some help. I am new to Linux and Xastir both so please keep things 
simple for me.

I noticed today that the radar that I load from the website www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/NOZ/MAF_NOZ_0.gif is off by several miles. I am talking in the neighborhood of 50-75 miles. When I adjust the size of the .gif the center of the radar (the ground clutter) moves around as I change the size. I had the ground clutter centered but the edge of a recent storm was real far off. 


So I tried the WMSRadar on my Xastir and discovered that the image is indeed 
better but it shows the storms about 120 miles north of their actual location.

What setting(s) do I have wrong? The purpose of this set-up is to serve as a 
remote station for Skywarn operations if something happens at the NWS so I need 
the radar to be as accurate as possible.

Oh the technical stuff-- Ubuntu 6.06 and Xastir 1.71. I am not much of a 
programmer so this is all real close to OEM specs.

Thank you for your help,

73s
Jim KE5MKT


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Re: [Xastir] does CWOP filter get new DW stations?

2008-02-28 Thread Gerry Creager
One thing we're looking to reduce/eliminate is the "Sea Of Blue effect 
when folks start putting all CWOP data back out on RF.  javAPRSSrvr has 
modified over time to do that.  CWOP non-hams are not validated 
connections and thus shouldn't go out save when we're looking at 
compelling need: emergencies like chemical release, severe weather, etc. 
 Using cwop.tamu.edu as an aggregator of all three CWOP servers allows 
this.


A second instance of javaAPRSSrvr is pretty straightforward.  That'd be 
my recommendation but pose this to Pete on the javAPRSSrvr list and see 
what he recommends.


gerry

Eric Germann wrote:

ok, feeling dumber yet answering my own question.

Is the logical answer to deploy a second instance of the APRS server SW 
here, take the firehose from CWOP's servers, then allow the internal 
clients to filter it to the region of interest?  Running it on linux, a 
second instance running on the same box shouldn't be an issue should it?


You can definitely tell the CWOP feed on the Xastir status line.  It's 
the one with the red arrow lit all the time :)  Sure makes the station 
names zing by also on the status line.



EKG


Eric Germann wrote:

Here's sort of a (dumb) question:

I use javaAPRSSrvr locally to aggregate all my APRS traffic from a 
144.390 digi, a weather digi and two Telpac's for Winlink, as well as 
Xastir.  This server then establishes ONE bidirectional connection to 
the *.aprs.net servers.  If I wanted to bring in a feed from the CWOP 
servers, how do I configure a readonly simultaneous upstream to go 
along with the aprs ones?   Basically, I want to aggregate it in the 
local instance, so I can filter, db it, etc, but NOT gate CWOP servers 
back to APRS-IS?


Thoughts?

73 de N1ICS


Gerry Creager wrote:

Two topics covered here.  Thanks for the opening.

Matt Werner wrote:

To make the program more...universal...shouldn't it check for more
than the prefix (or maybe it does)?  CW and DW are both prefixes that
are also used by foreign countries and could be (or maybe already are)
on APRS.

At a minimum a CW station should be required to be wx and the last
four characters should be numeric I would think.


Correct.  I'd also recommend that we look explicitly for APnnn, 
ARnnn, ASnnn and that we consider making this a user-configurable 
area that gets updated periodically by developers or maintainers to 
be "the default list"


*TOPIC 2*
Please consider connecting to cwop.tamu.eduport 30001 for gathering 
your CWOP data.  That provides a full (nope, no filters) feed for all 
CWOP data including APRS-Wx (ham:  not CW/DW) stations.


There are 3 CWOP-dedicated servers.  These are for the CW/DW 
stations.   Hams should continue to use the APRS-IS servers _unless_ 
you don't want your data pointed to RF.


Questions will be entertained.  We're trying to get CWOP covered with 
its own servers to improve CWOP *and* APRS performance.


gerry


73 - Matt
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Tom Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:32:22AM -0600, we recorded a 
bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, 
containing:



According to http://www.wxqa.com/news.html :

 >
 > "Feb 24, 2008 - We have started issuing CWOP IDs that start with DW
 > followed by 4 numbers. We have run through 10,000 IDs that start 
with
 > CW, so we have changed to DW and you can see the list of DW 
stations

 > that have sent packets."
 >
 >
 > Does the xastir CWOP display filter on packet type, or does it 
look at

 > the callsign?
 >
 > Yeah, I could eventually figure this out on my own, but my 
xastir box

 > is at home, and besides that I'm lazy.

 >From db.c:

// Check whether it is a citizen's weather station
if (strncasecmp(p_station->call_sign,"CW",2) == 0) {
return(Select_.weather_stations && 
Select_.CWOP_wx_stations);

}

 So no, it won't recognized DW's.  Yet.

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Re: [Xastir] does CWOP filter get new DW stations?

2008-02-27 Thread Gerry Creager

Two topics covered here.  Thanks for the opening.

Matt Werner wrote:

To make the program more...universal...shouldn't it check for more
than the prefix (or maybe it does)?  CW and DW are both prefixes that
are also used by foreign countries and could be (or maybe already are)
on APRS.

At a minimum a CW station should be required to be wx and the last
four characters should be numeric I would think.


Correct.  I'd also recommend that we look explicitly for APnnn, ARnnn, 
ASnnn and that we consider making this a user-configurable area that 
gets updated periodically by developers or maintainers to be "the 
default list"


*TOPIC 2*
Please consider connecting to cwop.tamu.eduport 30001 for gathering your 
CWOP data.  That provides a full (nope, no filters) feed for all CWOP 
data including APRS-Wx (ham:  not CW/DW) stations.


There are 3 CWOP-dedicated servers.  These are for the CW/DW stations. 
  Hams should continue to use the APRS-IS servers _unless_ you don't 
want your data pointed to RF.


Questions will be entertained.  We're trying to get CWOP covered with 
its own servers to improve CWOP *and* APRS performance.


gerry


73 - Matt
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Tom Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:32:22AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of 
the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:


According to http://www.wxqa.com/news.html :

 >
 > "Feb 24, 2008 - We have started issuing CWOP IDs that start with DW
 > followed by 4 numbers. We have run through 10,000 IDs that start with
 > CW, so we have changed to DW and you can see the list of DW stations
 > that have sent packets."
 >
 >
 > Does the xastir CWOP display filter on packet type, or does it look at
 > the callsign?
 >
 > Yeah, I could eventually figure this out on my own, but my xastir box
 > is at home, and besides that I'm lazy.

 >From db.c:

// Check whether it is a citizen's weather station
if (strncasecmp(p_station->call_sign,"CW",2) == 0) {
return(Select_.weather_stations && Select_.CWOP_wx_stations);
}

 So no, it won't recognized DW's.  Yet.

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Re: [Xastir] Xastir and Fedora

2008-02-26 Thread Gerry Creager

Don't think it's under active development, but I'll look.

gc

Eric H Christensen wrote:

It is on the list.  Is it still being actively developed?

Eric



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Oh no!  NOT aprsd.  That will complicate any form of orderly APRS-IS 
activity.  No.  I'm NOT kidding.


gerry

Eric H Christensen wrote:

It looks like Xastir rpms are going to be placed in the Fedora yum repositories soon.  It 
is currently sitting in the "Packages submitted for review" area of packages 
page on the Fedora Amateur Radio SIG (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/AmateurRadio).

Over the past couple of days the number of rpms available in the amateur radio 
software category has shot through the roof.  There are thirteen packages in 
Fedora now, seven submitted for review (including Xastir and aprsd), and 
twenty-three packages still being worked on.  I can't wait for these packages 
to be complete and ready to go!

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Re: [Xastir] Xastir and Fedora

2008-02-26 Thread Gerry Creager

Eric,

Thanks.  Several issues have appeared.  Aprsd can be misconfigured to 
cause looping in the APRS-IS, and often is.  The javaAPRSSrvr code has 
been revamped to detect and solve this but we still see hiccups 
occasionally.


Xastir makes a better iGate, and if hams ask AE5PL, they can get the 
java code for igating or 2ndary servers.  I'd much rather see a script 
to take the java package and make it go into a predetermined area.  I'd 
also love to see it executed as a non-priv user with access to the 
needed ports/sockets.


73 gerry

Eric H Christensen wrote:

Gerry,
Just got finished talking with the lead of the Amateur Radio SIG.  Told him 
what was going on (somewhat) and he asked that a comment be put on Red Hat's 
Bugzilla (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=434547) for the aprsd 
package.  I'd go ahead and do it before they really start working on it.  
Apparently both Xastir and aprsd have some issues they are trying to work 
through to get it approved and in the repository.

Eric


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Oh no!  NOT aprsd.  That will complicate any form of orderly APRS-IS 
activity.  No.  I'm NOT kidding.


gerry

Eric H Christensen wrote:

It looks like Xastir rpms are going to be placed in the Fedora yum repositories soon.  It 
is currently sitting in the "Packages submitted for review" area of packages 
page on the Fedora Amateur Radio SIG (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/AmateurRadio).

Over the past couple of days the number of rpms available in the amateur radio 
software category has shot through the roof.  There are thirteen packages in 
Fedora now, seven submitted for review (including Xastir and aprsd), and 
twenty-three packages still being worked on.  I can't wait for these packages 
to be complete and ready to go!

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Re: [Xastir] Xastir and Fedora

2008-02-26 Thread Gerry Creager
Oh no!  NOT aprsd.  That will complicate any form of orderly APRS-IS 
activity.  No.  I'm NOT kidding.


gerry

Eric H Christensen wrote:

It looks like Xastir rpms are going to be placed in the Fedora yum repositories soon.  It 
is currently sitting in the "Packages submitted for review" area of packages 
page on the Fedora Amateur Radio SIG (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/AmateurRadio).

Over the past couple of days the number of rpms available in the amateur radio 
software category has shot through the roof.  There are thirteen packages in 
Fedora now, seven submitted for review (including Xastir and aprsd), and 
twenty-three packages still being worked on.  I can't wait for these packages 
to be complete and ready to go!

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Re: [Xastir] Emergency in beacon

2008-02-24 Thread Gerry Creager
There's been no significant modifications to the spec in about as long 
as I can recall.  I think Curt has beaten some changes in that Bob B has 
accepted but nothing substantive.


gc

Eric Christensen wrote:
I just found what I was looking for. 
http://eng.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs/EmergencyCode.txt


Eric W4OTN


Eric Christensen wrote:

Gerry,
I THINK Steve captures the EMERGENCY beacons based on the MIC-E format 
that is used on the D7/D700 radios (modified MIC-E?).  I haven't been 
subscribed to any APRS SIG lists in quite a while so this is an 
observation from a few years ago... from memory.  Has the APRS Spec 
been modified to include an additional means for transmitting an 
EMERGENCY packet?


Eric W4OTN


Gerry Creager wrote:
In a week or so, when he's back, I'll ask Steve Dimse about how he 
captures EMERGENCY on findu unless I can divine it otherwise first. 
That'd be the definitive case.  Comparing Xastir to a piece of 
software that isn't under maintenance and never will be (UI-view) 
isn't too good an idea in my view.  He sounds like someone who got 
caught with his hand in the cookie jar and doesn't want to admit it.

gerry

Earl Needham wrote:


I've been having a conversation with KC5FM-9, and not sure 
what to think here.


Thursday, when I was home, I was using Xastir with the 
internet feed, and KC5FM-9 had the word "EMERGENCY" in his position 
comment field -- I think it originally said "EMERGENCY MANAGER" or 
something similar.


Every time I'd receive his position, Xastir would pop up a 
window asking if I wanted to find that station.  I finally asked a 
friend of mine, who lives close to him, to ask him to change the 
beacon.  I get the impression that I offended him, and the last 
thing I got from him was:



The Status text has been changed.

The more I think of this, the more I am convinced that your choice of
software is the culprit.  I don't show up in the emergency beacons at

http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/emergency.cgi

as well as UI-View over the internet and the Kenwood radio in the EOC.

I am interested (and will check soon) what effect the emergency beacon
that triggers the Findu output has on the software and radios.  I am
told that the Kenwood locks up until the operator attends to the
alarm.  I am also told other software reacts differently, from Bells
and Whistles to nothing at all.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

73


So, MY question -- is Xastir perhaps "too sensitive" to the 
word "EMERGENCY"?  Is this something that needs to be looked into?


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Re: [Xastir] WXSVR/NWS bulletins - how's this work? (a little OT)

2008-02-24 Thread Gerry Creager
One thing to consider when doing this work now is that several Warnings 
are now presented as polygon objects instead of Counties (at least 
officially; the software updates are not rolled out yet to stop warning 
whole counties, but the intent now is to _not_ warn whole counties). 
See http://www.weather.gov/sbwarnings/ for more info on SBWs.  The 
intent is to reduce the warned area to more sharply focus on an area of 
maximal potential for storm damage rather than warning a whole county 
when only, say, one corner is at risk.  We're still in a learning phase, 
honestly, and if you follow AccuWeather's blogs you'll likely see all of 
 the warnings that were off by even a minute amount...


gerry

William McKeehan wrote:

See if this helps: http://www.aprs-is.net/Wx/


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Re: [Xastir] To many repeats?

2008-02-24 Thread Gerry Creager

More'n likely an old TNC with digipeat on...

Earl Needham wrote:


Something strange is going on here --

I have my unproto set to WIDE2-1 and I am getting multiple 
repeats when I transmit a position.  Even when setting my unproto to 
NONE, something out here (I'm currently mobile in Bakersfield, Ca) still 
repeats my packets.  Maybe an IGATE or something?  I'm not quite sure 
what to do to get this fixed, but it sure points out how the frequency 
can get congested in a hurry.


I'm not sure what to do next -- Xastir doesn't really give me a 
terminal so I can watch what the TNC is doing and seeing -- I guess I'm 
going to set the unproto back to WIDE2-1 and see what happens, but if 
somebody has an answer of a fix I'd sure appreciate it.


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Re: [Xastir] Emergency in beacon

2008-02-23 Thread Gerry Creager
In a week or so, when he's back, I'll ask Steve Dimse about how he 
captures EMERGENCY on findu unless I can divine it otherwise first. 
That'd be the definitive case.  Comparing Xastir to a piece of software 
that isn't under maintenance and never will be (UI-view) isn't too good 
an idea in my view.  He sounds like someone who got caught with his hand 
in the cookie jar and doesn't want to admit it.

gerry

Earl Needham wrote:


I've been having a conversation with KC5FM-9, and not sure what 
to think here.


Thursday, when I was home, I was using Xastir with the internet 
feed, and KC5FM-9 had the word "EMERGENCY" in his position comment field 
-- I think it originally said "EMERGENCY MANAGER" or something similar.


Every time I'd receive his position, Xastir would pop up a 
window asking if I wanted to find that station.  I finally asked a 
friend of mine, who lives close to him, to ask him to change the 
beacon.  I get the impression that I offended him, and the last thing I 
got from him was:



The Status text has been changed.

The more I think of this, the more I am convinced that your choice of
software is the culprit.  I don't show up in the emergency beacons at

http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/emergency.cgi

as well as UI-View over the internet and the Kenwood radio in the EOC.

I am interested (and will check soon) what effect the emergency beacon
that triggers the Findu output has on the software and radios.  I am
told that the Kenwood locks up until the operator attends to the
alarm.  I am also told other software reacts differently, from Bells
and Whistles to nothing at all.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

73


So, MY question -- is Xastir perhaps "too sensitive" to the word 
"EMERGENCY"?  Is this something that needs to be looked into?


I'm currently running version 1.9.1 under VMWare.

7 3
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Re: [Xastir] Off Topic -- I got my Ticket!

2008-02-21 Thread Gerry Creager

Jim,

Congratulations.  I'm still having fun with the hobby I started in when 
I was, well, much younger.


gerry

Jim Tolbert wrote:

Hi, All...

I had to tell someone!  I am KC9MXT as of yesterday 8-)

Now I can legally move forward with a system of Xastir and trackers for 
the SAR we are organizing.


Any suggestions of good used equipment sites for my home setup would be 
appreciated as well as your thoughts on good reading material and the 
minimum set of gear.   I need something to justify expenditures to the 
CFO (da wife :-) ).   I have the ticket -- now I need some practical 
knowledge.  I recognize, I don't know hardly anything.


Happy Days... even if it was -20F here in the northwoods this morning!!

Later.. jt



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Re: [Xastir] NWS maps and geo files

2008-02-18 Thread Gerry Creager

Scott,

You're not asking for the underlying RIDGE maps and I don't think 
they're directly available.  All you're asking for below is the N0R 
(base reflectivity, 0.5deg elevation) GIF.I honestly have not looked at 
where it might put the 	temporary image.


You should use local (or online) maps to get cartography.

gerry

Scott Nolde N4CI wrote:

I'm having a little difficulty viewing NWS maps.  I've created a .geo
file in my maps/Online directory which looks like this:
URL http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0R/JGX_N0R_0.gif
TIEPOINT1   1   -85.910617  35.020961
TIEPOINT600 550 -80.782832  30.320491
IMAGESIZE 600 550
REFRESH 300
TRANSPARENT 0x0
#OPTIONAL PARAMS
GAMMA 2
#CONTRAST 0.5
#NEGATE
#EQUALIZE
#NORMALIZE
#LEVEL
#eof

It seems I'm missing something fundamental when I try to view the map.
 It seems xastir doesn't fetch the map and it won't display the gif in
the same directory.  My user running xastir has read+write permissions
to the online directory, also.

Can anyone point to a how-to or provide some assistance in troubleshooting this?

Thanks much,
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Re: [Xastir] What county am I in?

2008-02-15 Thread Gerry Creager
Specifically, what I've been asked for is the ability to query some sort 
of database or server with GPS coordinates and produce both Maidenhead 
and County Name.  Both are easy to do with PostGIS, and I'm probably 
going to write a SOAP service and a web page that'll do it.


gerry

William McKeehan wrote:

I have something similar. I have COUNTIES.DBF/SHP/SHX files with a dbfawk like
this:

BEGIN {dbffields="NAME"}

BEGIN_RECORD {key=""; lanes=1; color=254; fill_color=1; name=""; filled=0;
pattern=0; display_level=4096; label_level=1024; label_color=20; font_size=3;
symbol=""; fill_style=2 }

/^NAME=(.*)$/ {name=$1; next}

END {}

I do not remember where I found the counties files, but if you want them, you
can fetch them from my home server:
http://mckeehan.homeip.net/xastirmaps/1-USABase/Counties



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Re: [Xastir] What county am I in?

2008-02-15 Thread Gerry Creager
I was asked last night to work on a similar application, so there should 
be something that's web-service accessible next week.


gerry

Dan Brown wrote:



Have been digging around on this for a while, but haven't found quite the
answer I'm hoping for.  I may have even asked here before, but didn't find
it in the archives - And, this might not be quite on topic, but is about as
close as I could come for the right bunch of folks to ask.

Using Xastir or some other mapping program, given a functional, running gps
and given a set of county shapefiles, is there an easy way to get a running
display - preferably text based - of "you're in this county right now" ???

Why?  Virginia QSO party approaches.  For a rover type operation, one which
may operate in transit, with one person driving, another operating the
radio(s) it would be very useful to know what county and or independent
city you're operating from at any give time.  Similar problem - though much
easier to figure out - for VHF rovers "what grid am I in?"

It seems like a simple question; "Can you please tell me where I am?" If 
only the counties were all square and lined up with the Lat/Lon lines.



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Re: [Xastir] WMS maps

2008-02-15 Thread Gerry Creager
No problem.  That's actually a common mistake for folks to think they 
can take a subset'd file like the .geo and make it do everything we want.


What I'll try to do is put add a comment into the .geo so folks can get 
a representative GET request to test with.


Also, with folks beating on me and severe weather headed into my State, 
I'll be working on getting radar back up this morning.  After a visit 
with our visualization faculty.


gerry

Mike Markowski wrote:
Ok, thanks for the info.  I just looked at the code & now see where 
map_WMS.c is adding the REQUEST, etc.  I naively assumed the url was 
being used as-is from the file.  So on that note...never mind!  :-)


Thanks,
Mike ab3ap

Gerry Creager wrote:

Er.  wget doesn't format that URL properly into a GET.

gerry

Mike Markowski wrote:
I saw the thread about the server handling WMS maps having hardware 
problems.  On the other hand, I just used wget with the URL in the 
current (CVS) WMSRadar.geo file.  [...]

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Re: [Xastir] WMS maps

2008-02-14 Thread Gerry Creager

Er.  wget doesn't format that URL properly into a GET.

gerry

Mike Markowski wrote:
I saw the thread about the server handling WMS maps having hardware 
problems.  On the other hand, I just used wget with the URL in the 
current (CVS) WMSRadar.geo file.  The result I get is:



"http://schemas.opengeospatial.net/wms/1.1.0/exception_1_1_0.dtd";>



msWMSDispatch(): WMS server error. Incomplete WMS request: REQUEST 
parameter missing




There is no REQUEST parameter in the WMSRadar.geo URL.  Has the url 
format maybe changed - or am I misinterpreting the error message?  Just 
curious...  (I can't seem to find anything about what the url format 
should even be at mesonet.tamu.edu.)


Thanks & 73!
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Re: [Xastir] Weather data formats

2008-02-14 Thread Gerry Creager
Peet has some examples on their site and I can likely generate some 
later this week when I get a few minutes to play with a uWx board which 
uses the same format...

gerry

Tony Hunt wrote:

Where can I get some info on the weather data stream formats for both the
WX200 and the Peet Brothers serial streams ? Anybody know how these formats
are constructed? I want to try and see if I can make a PIC uP on a serial
port emulate or translate some datas to make it look like a serial Wx
station.

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Re: [Xastir] GPS question, off topic.

2008-02-14 Thread Gerry Creager
w him to spread  
fertiliser with as little overlap as possible.  This is because over  
the course of a season, the cost of the overlap is quite high  
apparently (in monetary terms).  It must be appreciable as he is  
looking for a method to reduce that cost, but is sceptical of the  
solutions presented.


Purely as an exercise, I was going to try the GPS-18 that I have  
already, put GPSman running (or something) and drive one or two of  
his fields.. just to see what he thinks...all the locals looking at  
their APRS displays will think I've gone barmy...


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Re: [Xastir] GPS question, off topic.

2008-02-14 Thread Gerry Creager

Couple of  minor points, although Lance's pretty well on-track.

Lance Cotton wrote:

John Ronan wrote:

Assuming that WAAS signals are quite strong, what would the advantage be
between a Phoenix 200 Smart Antenna
http://www.ravenprecision.com/ca/Products/description.jsp?partNum=117-0171-071&Category=1&Type=1 



over a garmin GPS-18.

It's for an agricultural guidance solution they are the two GPS options
available. I suggested to him to borrow my GPS-18 (which I use with my
OpenTracker 2) to test it before deciding on which to use, as I know
WAAS signals are quite strong here.


What would the GPS be used for? APRS Tracking? Farming?

The Phoenix GPS claims sub-meter accuracy. Barring marketing lies, this 
is not possible with only WAAS. WAAS would likely get you to 3 meter 
accuracy at best (Gerry N5JXS certainly knows more about this).


The Phoenix also claims to use a helical antenna.  There's little 
benefit of a quadrifilar helix over a dielectric patch antenna for 
low-angle satellites, and low angle satellites tend to detract from 
accurate positioning because of the interplay of more atmospheric 
traversal than higher-elevation constellation selection.  I think 
they're letting marketing invade technical space here.


The eDif feature mentioned for th Phoenix appears to attempt to model 
ionosphere delays by analyzing multiple satellite signals over time. 
Normally ionospheric delay (signal bending) correction is done using a 
2nd GPS frequency, on which the actual data is encrypted, but the clock 
information can be extracted. This 2nd frequency is what is normally 
referred to as "Military grade" GPS. The eDif claims to be able to get 
the same type of correction data out of a single frequency receiver. It 
also sounds like a costly add-on.


Aside from the fact that I've got and use dual-frequency receivers and 
have no current connections to the military other than having being 
married to a retired Army Nurse, dual-frequency is usually expensive to 
obtain. Relatively few are purchased compared to Garmin and other OEM 
and consumer units, so there's no economy of scale.  Although I've 
theorized about how to determine iono and tropo delays over the years 
using single-frequency techniques, it's virtually always required two or 
more receivers to make the theory work, over known baselines.


The other differential positioning technologies mentioned are likely 
DGPS,  where you have a separate GPS receiver at a precisely known 
position which radios out the offsets (within some "local" radius) 
between the GPS-derived position and its precisely known position. DGPS 
receivers recieve and incorporate these offsets into their calculations.


Some experiments concerning "local radius" conducted here several years 
ago suggest that said radius was a tool designed by Trimble to sell more 
DGPS base stations... or more precisely, that "local radius" was pretty 
general, and on the order of hundreds to thousands of kilometers.


The question back to you,  I guess, would be: do your friend need 
sub-meter accuracy and 10Hz position updates? (Most NMEA-out GPSs output 
positions only at 1Hz or less, depending on the NMEA sentences enabled.)


A lot of precision agriculture applications do need meter or better 
accuracies, especially if the GPS is driving the tractor.  I'm not sure 
the Phoenix is the right answer for this, though, unless I got more 
information and had the opportunity to play with a pair of them for 
evaluation.


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Re: [Xastir] online radar

2008-02-12 Thread Gerry Creager
All, problems abound here with hardware dropping like flies.  I'm trying 
to recover from a couple of multi-disk RAID failures... in one case by 
buying another 14TB of RAID6, which I then have to config and restore 
data to, but that's easy: While it's working I can't do anything else 
with it!


In the midst of all this, radar processing fell over because of a system 
change we anticipated... someone failed to tell me they were ready to 
take the system offline.  As soon as I can, I'll have radar working 
again on another system, likely sometime today.


In the mean time, I have to keep up with the day job.

OH, and if you've been following it, I'm also working on the CWOP server 
issues.  Those, at least, now appear on the mend.


gerry

Kurt Freiberger wrote:
I just talked to Gerry, and he will look at it later tonight, as soon as 
the current crisis abates.


73/Kurt


Ryan Tourge wrote:

It seems the online radar images from
http://mesonet.tamu.edu/gemdata/images/radar/ have stopped updating.





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Re: [Xastir] Fedora Wiki, possible tweak

2008-01-23 Thread Gerry Creager
FWIW, if one were to do a 'yum install pcre-devel' it'd also install the 
base RPM.


NOW: For you Fedora gurus, I've run into a problem with 1.9.2 stable on 
Fedora 7.  Won't compile with geotiff enabled and with:

rpm -qa|grep -i geotiff
libgeotiff-devel-1.2.4-0.3.rc1.fc7
libgeotiff-1.2.4-0.3.rc1.fc7


Right now, I'm up with 'configure --without-geotiff' but that's 
obviously not the best way to go.  I mean, really: This is Xastir and we 
want it all!


gerry

Richard Polivka wrote:

Should be pcre-devel.

73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO
xastir on Fedora 7/8


"Curt, WE7U" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Forwarding this 'cuz this guy is not making it to the list.  Could

someone running Fedora check this and update the Wiki if needed?
Thanks.

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Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:38:30 -0600
From: Neville A. Cross 
To: "Curt Mills, WE7U" 
Subject: Re: Problem installing from CVS





Curt, WE7U wrote:

You message to the list bounced.  You must subscribe first.  The
message only went to the list admins, of which there are two, and we
regularly delete without reading because most of them are spam.
I'll answer this one the best I can, but please subscribe.  Thanks!




I subscribed some time ago and I am receiving a daily digest. I didn't
see my post.
I not sure why my email is bouncing. I even went to the mailing list
admin page to check my personal mailing options.

Thanks for your advice. The link was useful and I think that what help
the most was the advice regarding not using SU.

By the way in the page http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Fedora
in the part 5. PCRE (Perl Compatible Regular Expressions) it said
"yum -y install pcre pcre-dev"
And I think what should be there is

"yum -y install pcre pcre-devel"
The last two letters are missing from the second package name.


Thanks again

Neville
YN1V





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Re: [Xastir] Xastir and Ultimeter weather station

2008-01-23 Thread Gerry Creager

Matt Werner wrote:

I have a 2000 but currently have the wind sensor disconnected (it's
under repair).

It would be nice to have the ability to tell xastir which sensors to
report and which to ignore.  Peet's data structure naturally doesn't
change it's format when the sensors are unplugged, it just reports no
data for them.


Having spent a fair bit of time w/ Davis yesterday getting them to 
update their windows s/w for APRS-WX/CWOP... if I can find Peet at the 
American Meteorological Society meeting, I've some requests for them, 
too! And you just raised a key one.  We should have a standard value for 
*Missing Data* such as, -9 (which is, in fact, one such well 
recognized value in the meteorological community).



The difference between 0 and 'no data' is significant but xastir
doesn't recognize it.


Nor do a lot of other consumer-grade, or APRS-WX, programs.  It's more 
an oversight, I think, than a mistake.  However, thanks for pointing it out.



On Jan 22, 2008 11:08 AM, Curt, WE7U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, Rick Green wrote:


I'm running a Peet Ultimeter 500, which seems to output the same data
structures as the ultimeter 2000, but with all the 'missing' sensors
zeroed out.  I wish there was a way I could configure xastir to ignore
some fields, since it's reporting that it never rains here, rather than
simply not reporting rain as it should.  And I don't have a baro sensor,
but it's reporting some strange bogus values...

Talk to us some more about this.  I don't know much about the Peet
series.  We could do something about the above problem.



I haven't found anything in the code that treats a 'networked' weather
station any differently than a serial-connected one, so I'm guessing
that the 'networked' wx station is simply a serial wx station plugged into
a 'serial server' or a 'terminal server', so that if you were to telnet to
the server port, you'd see the same data stream as if you ran minicom on
the serial-connected wx station.

Nope.  Unfortunately.  In this case it connects to the One Wire
Weather daemon or the wx200d daemon only.

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Re: [Xastir] Xastir and Ultimeter weather station

2008-01-20 Thread Gerry Creager
that's what I get for trying to respond while driving across Louisiana 
last night.


Sorry!

gerry

Steve Jones wrote:


On Jan 19, 2008, at 10:51 PM, Gerry Creager wrote:

If you're willing to experiment a bit, try bringimg up wview on the 
Mac or a linux box and let it both report the data and give you a nice 
web-based dispkay?


That said, I seem to recall a bunch of Davis updates committed to cvs 
lately, so it should work preetty well for you.


Looks like it's limited to Davis weather stations.  I've got an Peet 
Bros. Ultimeter.


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Re: [Xastir] Xastir and Ultimeter weather station

2008-01-19 Thread Gerry Creager
If you're willing to experiment a bit, try bringimg up wview on the Mac 
or a linux box and let it both report the data and give you a nice 
web-based dispkay?


That said, I seem to recall a bunch of Davis updates committed to cvs 
lately, so it should work preetty well for you.


73 gerry


Steve Jones wrote:

Hello all,

I'm seeing what's involved in making the switch from ui-view on an old 
PC to Xastir on my Mac.


So far so good.  I've got Xastir compiled and showing maps from online 
sources.  I've transferred over my Ui-View maps and all is good.


I'll need a serial to usb adaptor for the tnc but I'm not sure about 
hooking up my Ultimeter weather station.


Right now I've got another PC running Weather Display which outputs a 
wxnow.txt file every 10 minutes.  UI-View picks up this file and uses it 
to generate my weather broadcast.


Is there a similar function in Xastir?

Since Weather Display generates my weather webserver pages, I'll be 
keeping it around for the forseeable future.


I could split off another serial connection from the Ultimeter but that 
would mean hanging another usb to serial adaptor off of my computer 
which I would rather not do.


Any suggestions?

Steve
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