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Subject: 'wicked' - 2001nov17sat - us.mi.ann arbor
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 02:00:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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2001 nov 17 sat . us mi ann arbor . 10pm - 8am
'wicked'
derek pl
agents of change
jeff mills and derrick may
thursday nov 22nd 2001
@tangent gallery
715 milwaukee detroit
doors open 10:30pm
313 438 4082
www.transmat.com
www.axisrecords.com
$25
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R17 is not a fixed velocity, but it is clea
I was sure somebody posted a few events for this week/weekend here in
Detroit, and a friend asked me about specifics and I can't find them.
Wondering if someone can hit me back w/ details. Feel free to hit me
privately.
Thanks
Charlie
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Great point! Doesn't dub predate hip hop though? It was low-tech on big
soundsystems. The only factor it doesn't seem to inherit is the
post-industrial attribute, but then again my knowledge of the roots of dub
are few and far between. Though I'd love to read about it, any suggestions
LKS?
Che
| -Original Message-
| From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:43 PM
|
| Hm. Although I don't think it is an accident that what we think of as
| "techno" comes out of Detroit for the reasons you mentioned,
| I actually think hip-hop mi
| -Original Message-
| From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:58 PM
|
| Parts I loved:
|
| His explanation of the title "Every Dog Has His Day"
| where he breaks it down literally. I guess it is an English Language
| colloquialism, but it's not
Hugo sweet wrote:
"Only in techno does it make sense for a composer to say that using a
preset synth sound is either succumbing to cliche or is creative
cowardice."
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.. opposing that quote is the first thing I thought of when reading it.
I use presets ALOT but then
alter the sound down
I'm going to completely disregard the thread that unrolled from Jeff
Mills into particle physics...
The thing that mosts fascinates me about Jeff Mills is the way that he
speaks is a little fuzzy meaningwise. It makes me want to put on my
green eyeshade and copy edit for him. You KNOW what's he'
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> | -Original Message-
> | From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:17 PM
> |
> | > Interesting point... I'd be tempted to say that techno was the first
> | > specifically po
> | My point from the get-go is that knowledge replaces
> | imagination.
>
Let me expand. The process of learning knowledge and working a full time job
that uses that knowledge, leaves little or no room or time for the imagination
to venture. Can we just agree on that point now that I have
You're right. I don't want to remain a kid. I guess that I was just trying to
figure out why a kid's imagination is so vivid until he get's older, but you
are right. When one gains knowledge, he is able to imagine on a deeper level,
provided his brain isn't full of too much knowledge=)
On We
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From: "T.J.Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: FW: [313] Jeff Mills interview on-line
> no definately not. Einstein is one of the most imaginative peope in
history IMO. Peo
| -Original Message-
| From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:17 PM
|
| > Interesting point... I'd be tempted to say that techno was the first
| > specifically post-industrial tribal music. Other genres of
| music, like
| > rock'n'rol
no definately not. Einstein is one of the most imaginative peope in history
IMO. People who take the theory of relativity and say it is the law and not to
question it are the people who I am referring too. Namely, Michael Narlock, my
University Physics Prof.
On Wed, 14 November 2001, "Chri
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> | -Original Message-
> | From: Gery Smismans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:29 PM
> |
> | Could we describe techno as the first attempt by people living in
> | "western" ( industrialised ) co
| -Original Message-
| From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:25 PM
|
| My point from the get-go is that knowledge replaces
| imagination.
I don't agree with this; however I would say that the perception of
knowledge *can* inhibit imagination.
| -Original Message-
| From: Gery Smismans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:29 PM
|
| Could we describe techno as the first attempt by people living in
| "western" ( industrialised ) countries to tribal music ? Or would that
| be Jazz ?
Interesting point...
and, sorry to double post, but do you honestly feel that einstein's theory
of relativity took less imagination than that of playing when you were a
kid?
Christian Bloch
http://mp3.com/bloch
http://www.mp313.com/christianbloch.htm
Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque
Droppings/Set.G
> My point from the get-go is that knowledge replaces imagination. If you
don't agree with me, then please give me your reasoning behind the loss of
imagination as one gets older. All I am saying is that if you are going to
study science, it would be ideal to try and keep an open mind to the
unk
Yeah I totally see what you're saying. To me, techno music almost mimics the
assembly line, but with much more variation...
On Wed, 14 November 2001, "Gery Smismans" wrote:
>
> To return to the music site of things : techno has a intriguing
> ambiguity : it consists of electronic sounds, gen
To return to the music site of things : techno has a intriguing
ambiguity : it consists of electronic sounds, generated by machines and
always reminds me of our modern society with its industrial sounds,
never ending beats( like society has now become a 24/24 nonstop machine,
not like before, when
> As for Plato and Socrates teaching those that would listen, they got paid,
> they taught rich kids, if you think they didn't you haven't read enough
> about them.
>
> Cheers
> todd
I have read enough and don't appreciate your condescending comments. You are
totally missing my harmless point.
>
> You are pretty funny, for a physics geek. =)
>
> Don't forget the "per say" that you cut off to make your points even minutely
> valid. Nice edit job.
>
Excellent, so if I add back in those two words (didn't really notice them to
be honest) you accept the validity and truthfulness of my li
> Uh, I don't have a physics lecturer, sorry
>
Buy yourself Scott Adams' "The Dilbert Future", read chapter 14 and
amaze your peers with your vast knowledge of physics, prooving that
gravity is only an optical illusion :-)
:-G
http://www.appletree.be
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>> Sometimes I think that when it is our time to understand, we will.
>
>> And until that point we should just keep our heads under the parapet??
>
> Yeah maybe. Or you could go on believing everything your physics professor
> has to say. The truth is that man will never understand even a minut
> Yeah maybe. Or you could go on believing everything your physics
professor has to say. The truth is > that man will never understand even a
minute fraction of life and the way things work.
Or perhaps you can believe there's some truth to what your prof. is saying
and use your imagination to co
>
> > At 9:25 +0100 11/14/01, veto wrote:
> > >PS Has anyone heard any good RECORDS recently???
> >
>
>
the other people place lp on warp...
it's rumoured to be from an artist from
the underground resistance posse
like everyone else i have *no* clue
*who* it might be
(beware of irony)
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It was a great bit of TV - hopefully the rest of the series will be as good.
They also played the accapella with bells and bongos of Candi Staton's "You
Got The Love" that Tristan is after and which several of us here have been
puzzling over. Anyone know where it is from? I tried to look at the lab
T.J.Johnson wrote:
>
> This may have already been discussed, but the K. Hand History
> of Detroit on Tresor has actually grown on me. When I first
> brought it home last month, I threw a track off of this
> double lp and it threw my mix off (sure, blame it on the
> record=) because the beat wa
> At 9:25 +0100 11/14/01, veto wrote:
> >PS Has anyone heard any good RECORDS recently???
>
This may have already been discussed, but the K. Hand History of Detroit on
Tresor has actually grown on me. When I first brought it home last month, I
threw a track off of this double lp and it thre
I'd love a copy of the series myself ( I can do the format conversion here
in the US) so if anyone is up to the task.
MEK
Mark Hughes
At 9:25 +0100 11/14/01, veto wrote:
PS Has anyone heard any good RECORDS recently???
Actually, the new LTJ Bukem live album is pretty nice. He recorded it
at a club I SHOULD have been at, but n nobody else was
interested. I have NEVER heard him do a rewind except on this mix.
(not that t
>PS Has anyone heard any good RECORDS recently???
i was real impressed with the track 'even deeper' on the 70 city 012.
(titoton & lig, sensual ep)
http://www.nuloop.com/real/7thcity/scd012_a1.ram
henrique
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> >I have challenged my physics professors too many times to count.
> My god, I have such total sympathy with your professor!!
>
> > Basically, if man ever does discover that something travels faster than 3 x
> > 10^8 m/s, science falls apart,
You are pretty funny, for a physics geek. =)
Don't
>Sometimes I think that when it is our time to understand, we will.
>And until that point we should just keep our heads under the parapet??
Yeah maybe. Or you could go on believing everything your physics professor has
to say. The truth is that man will never understand even a minute fracti
Steve Dahl. A friend just told me that the "on-air buddy" on his show was
black *and* homosexual *and* a friend of Steve's -- so no more using him as
the stick to beat up on the anti-disco movement (at least for the usual
black/homosexual reasons). Maybe he really *did* dislike the music!
John
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All email to anyone using an address with that domain bounces as "unknown"
as well...I've been trying to contact a certain Tom from there with no luck
for a few days.
jeff
At 05:56 AM 11/14/2001, Thomas Van Steen wrote:
hi all,
Do you know why
Hi there, sorry if this seems like self promotion but I had to post this
review of our first release because of the last line- one of the funniest
descriptions of a Techno track I've ever heard!!!
De:Bug magazine (translated from the German)
Iridite 001- v/a (integrale muzique)
A new label fr
hi all,
Do you know why Renegade Rhythms website doesn't work ...
http://www.renegaderhythms.com/
I found lots of infos about electronic music artist on this website and now,
this website seems to be out.
Someone have more news?
Thomas Van Steen
http://www.pulsation.com
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Can't remember, Steve something-or-other, but the dialogue from his
anti-Disco burn-in appears on the latest Parallax Corporation CD from I-F,
and probably about a hundred others as well.
Subject: Re: [313] For those in the U.K.
> What was the name of that DJ who led the "Disco Sucks" movement
I thought it was excellent and thoroughly enjoyable!! I think Tom has
summed it up completely to be honest!!!
Must admit though, up until now I wasn't aware of the anti Disco movement!!
That was a little disturbing, though I can't remember the name of the guy,
Steve something or other I think!!
What was the name of that DJ who led the "Disco Sucks" movement in that
Baseball Stadium? I can't believe that sort of thing would have happened in
1976.
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From: Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313 mailing list <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday,
Yeah, it was cool. What I particularly liked was that all the talking heads
used (Marshall Jefferson, Chip E, Derrick May, Larry Sherman, Earl Smith,
various clubgoers etc) were people who were actually there and part of it,
not just pundits and commentators. The narrative was a bit overblown
occas
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If anybody happened to tape the programme, then I
would be more than willing to pay for a copy. My
video was playing games with me last night.
Cheers all
Mark
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From: veto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:25:43 +0100
To: "T.J.Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] Jeff Mills interview on-line
>I have challenged my physics professors too many times to count.
My god, I have such total symp
Did anyone see "Pump up the Volume" last night?
I thought it was well made, although I'll readily admit that I have little
knowledge of the early roots of house music. Good to see Del Boy May
getting a few words in there. I missed the last quarter though, anyone care
to enlighten on the content?
electromehanix records is also featured on this release and that´s another
313listmembers label, on the rok side.
/d
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:17:35 +
To: 313@hyperreal.org
From: Jason Donnelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: new claude young mix cd
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
worth a look
>I have challenged my physics professors too many times to count.
My god, I have such total sympathy with your professor!!
> Basically, if man ever does discover that something travels faster than 3 x
> 10^8 m/s, science falls apart,
I found most of this post to be pretty silly but this point
> has anyone any reviews of recent terence fixmer gigs?
>
> i'd really like to hear...
Terrence Fixmer will be playing in Eindhoven this weekend together with John
Selway and Lady Aida.
For more info:
http://technotourist.org/article.php?sid=40&mode=&order=0 or
http://www.rebelbass.com
[EMAI
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big thanks to all your support+replies, a big hug to the
clubs, labels and artists which continue to make klubradio
possible. the archive is slowly recovering on a remote
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This didn't seem to go through the first time. Apologies if you get it
twice.
From: "Hugo Sweet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 (E-mail)" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:31 PM
Subject: [313] Art and Technology again
> In my opinion, and based purely on the above, software s
> They are
> good enough to fool experts (composers and professors of music)
Just a little corolary here - EMI fools pros much better in certain types of
emulation than it does in others. Interestingly, trained musicians can
usually spot EMI's Bach more often than, for example, EMI's Chopin. You
From: "Hugo Sweet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 (E-mail)" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:31 PM
Subject: [313] Art and Technology again
> In my opinion, and based purely on the above, software such as EMI could
not
> produce great techno because of the priority given to th
Further to my last post:
"Since the early days of Experiments in Musical Intelligence, many audiences
have heard its output in the styles of classical composers. The works have
delighted, angered, provoked, and terrified those who have heard them. I do
not believe that the composers and audiences o
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Further to the art and technology debate, especially in relation to Deep
Blue and AI, I just read this in Daniel C. Dennett's APA Presidential
Address on December 29, 2000. The link is:
http://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/papers/apapresadd.htm.
"But that's just chess, you say, not art. Chess is trivial c
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Soundbites have been added to www.digital-soul.co.uk of the new release by
Splinterfaction which includes a killer remix from Holland's Duplex. The 12
will be on the streets next month, but all and any comments will be greatly
appreciated and recieved in the meantime. Enjoy!
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has anyone any reviews of recent terence fixmer gigs?
i'd really like to hear...
D
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