ht and haven't had a
chance to listen to, I'm wy behind.
john.
>
> ok, what ru listening to at the moment?
>
box up on stage,
inserted a CD, pressed play, and then sat down and read a book while it
played. I like to know that they're having at least *some* active
influence over the sounds being created. :)
john.
> So I've been having a bit of a discussion on a local messageboard about
>
t as
dark (and more so) as Slayer or any of their ilk.
Industrial gave me a bridge from metal over to harder techno and the
harder techno stuff prepared me for the day someone played me Plastikman.
:)
john.
> "headhunter" is another dancefloor killer. you cant go wrong with those
Skinny Puppy, Last Rights. Track 3, "Knowhwere?" placed on perpetual loop.
Clears things out usually before even one repeat. :)
Heh, the Danielle Dax tracks actually sounds intriguing. I may have to
track them down and give a listen.
john.
> Most at LD Towers don't share my l
wax is for anthrax. still it can rock bells.
> no checking for anthrax
>
> i swear- the postal service got slower after that stuff went down.
I would just like to send out a major congratulations to the 2004 NBA champions: Detroit Pistons.
Just like a mirror image of Detroit, we won it all by going to work EVERY night.
Thanks to the work of Joe D., we are in a position to dominate the league for the rest of the dacade.
On a 313 related
"Techno? You mean like that Moby guy? I like that song he did with Gwen
Stefani!"
grr.
click... boom!
> yes -- almost identical situation out here in Eden Prairie, a suburb of
> Minneapolis. just this morning I was forced to give the "Paul
> Oakenfold and Fatboy Slim are NOT techno" speech to a
Best event in Belgium, trust me. The company I work for closes during this
period, but I never go on holiday abroad just for Ten Days...
John
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> Someday you will drive your Sony to the Sony to pick up some more Sony.
And marklar your marklar with a marklar.
Hello List,
I would like to add an event to the already packed friday night.
Myself (john arnold) and Todd Osborne will be at Centre Street tonight
(friday, june 4th)
johnny
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s that were fighting during Sonic Destroyer, Bruce Lee and Jazz Musicians that I didnt recognize on the projector.
Truly one of the greatest live performances of music I have ever witnessed. On the drive home we just sat there in awe, no words, no music, just the tires humming on the road.
Good
I am starting to get pictures in from my photographers and I am posting
them as I can. I am just writting my review on my site...but generally I
had my expectations exceeded. Ohhh and I have to concurLisa is the
Whip!
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Does anybody know which sight the festival is being broacast from?
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i'm unsubscribing for a couple of months as i won't be properly online.
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>>While I'm at it I'm also selling a Silver 1988 Porsche 928 with 95,000
>>miles:
>
> Is it MIDI compatible?
No, but it does have cv/gate, so you can just get a converter.
john.
in Columbia Station, now I live in Berea.
Where am I "from?"
None of those cities (all suburbs of Cleveland, BTW) will likely mean
anything to someone who isn't familiar with the area. So, I'm from
Cleveland. Why be pedantic and potentially cause needless confusion?
john.
o record the panel discussion. In
that case I will write everything out and have it made available on the
website.
Techno Brings People Together is going to be a yearly event. If all goes as
planned next year's edition should be public again.
Cheers!
John
--
g.
I guess forks are a major potential security risk. I know if I were to
attack a large federal building my first choice of tools would be a fork.
:)
john.
> The moral of the story is that it's all smoke and mirrors. The stern
> glances from the ex-janitors running border security
[sarcasm]Well, I know *I* feel much safer now...[/sarcasm]
> i just spoke with her agent.
>
> ALL US dates are cancelled. Thank your friendly neighborhood customs
> agent
JBMH was actually on Psalm 69. Good track.
Even better was the "sequel" The Butthole Surfers did, "Some Dispute Over
T-Shirt Sales" :)
john.
> i'm quite certain Jesus BMH was after Psalm 69.
>
> Not that you shouldn't like it...
>
>
>
> On Fr
If anyone wants to get in for free:Hi all-
Just a quick note, the Koncept cats are graciously opening their list to the Meiotic email list for this Thursday nights show featuring Derrick May and Francois K @ Sound Bar. Here are the details:
Send an email with MEIOTIC -COSMIC in the subject headi
Ha ha! I don't think they laid it on quite thick enough. :)
"It sucks. It hates you. It ruins your property values and causes your
condominium association's attorney to send you unfriendly letters. It keys
your nice new Lexus LS. It will cause your mama to slap you into next
week. Your friends wil
Every Day (Is Halloween) is still one of my favorties, faux accent and
all. :)
john.
> Some of there early records are wicked, I personally like the 12" All
> Day.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 May 2004 15:16
> To: [
or forcing him into a style he
didn't want, and completely disavows that album now.
Other than that, the rest of the stuff he did around that time was more
industrial (though still not nearly as abrasive and guitar-oriented as the
later stuff.)
john.
Which group is the NZ reggae band?Thanks in advance!
>From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Drew Daugherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org" <313@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: RE: (313) movement lineup
>Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 19:26:01 -
>
>Surprised to see a NZ reg
I remember when Groovetech closed down the DEMF 2000 archives were moved.
Does anyone have the new link?
I thought I bookmarked it, but apparently not.
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Peace
John Patterson
there's a pretty good interview with him on Ableton's website:
http://www.ableton.com/index.php?main=artists&sub=akufen
other than that i rarely see much about him.
john.
i've had loads of these recently - but norten sorts them out
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From: "Matt Chester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: (313) viruses
>
>
> I'd be careful even with that method to be honest, as some of these
v
yeah its the horn player, but the music is kinda future hip hop synth jazz.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "john harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Intergalactic jazz-rock (Detroit Expe
oh, you should definately check out "till bronner" - just discovered this
myself!
ving modern post bop jazz. so any
suggestions there would be good.
john
I was in Recordtime a few months back and Huckaby talked about this.
Huckaby: "Eddie Fowlkes is throwing a festival in Pontiac this Summer."
Me: "That sounds interesting."
Huckaby: "Damn right interesting."
I would bet its at the Phoenix Center.
Cheers!
From: "Scott K Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>T
Hello list,
We just put up a new picture gallery: Fabrice Lig (live + dj) at Fuse
(Brussels):
http://www.technotourist.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album40&op=modload&na
me=Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php&page=1
Peace,
John
i discovered that rice crispies are made from rice
> Criteria for newness are pretty dependent on what your know, right? In
> every undergraduate composition class in the US, right now, there's a
> kid writing a piece using harmony based on perfect 4ths. Not only does
> that kid think it's the most beautiful thing he's ever heard, he also
> thinks
I think it's just techno reflecting the larger world of popular culture
right now. Retro is hip now, and the next big thing is whatever was the
big thing twenty years previous. Pop has eaten itself.
As for why, I think with techno-or, for that matter, any smaller
sub-culture-it's inevitable for th
> i wont lie, sitting down and playing a 909 is almost as fun as
> playing a real drum set. but really what it came down to for me
> was that i didnt want to sound just like other people, so i sold
> it.
true, a 909 sounds like a 909. not a huge variety of sounds there, though
I love those sounds!
I also find programming beats into the 909 to be very natural and easy. I
find there's just an intuitiveness and quickness to it, I just slap the
909 into step mode, hit play, and start entering in patterns. It just
*feels* right. :)
I can do the same thing with other drum machines (the Machinedru
Or you can go here:
http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
and download Real Alternative 1.22 and cut Real out of the equation
altogether. :)
john
(oh, btw... hi, i'm new!)
> ooh Jack-01
>
> and bloody RealAudio files again. I'll quit my winging tho cos of
ink in the announcement on the
home-page
or straight to the good stuff:
http://www.technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index
&req=viewarticle&artid=40
John
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> http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/cgi/item_detail.php?qId=100326
sounds really good!
it's colour - color is the american spelling
> its' spelled 'color', not 'colour'
>
>
> -wankers ;)
>
>
>
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, john harvey wrote:
>
> > we all know that white is not a colour but your remark is pedanti
>"it's getting noisy in here"
should appeal to jeff mills fans then
this is a joke.
we all know that white is not a colour but your remark is pedantic as it
doesn't relate to or change the argument in any way.
once again, white is not a colour...white is no colour, black is all. thats
the point i think of blue room vs white room
well, your statement seemed to be backing th
> "you would also have no sense of change, and no other information if the
> room was completely black or blue or green or yellow or red or orange."
>
> Absolutely, it's the uniformity that is key. Where did I state otherwise?
well, your statement seemed to be backing the argument that the colour
> We are now verging on the 313 equivalent of debating the number of angels
> it's possible to fit on the tip of a pinhead!
4!
you were the one imposing - you're telling me not to comment
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From: "Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'john harvey'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, Apr
hange?
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From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 14:53
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) new Mills
Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)
"Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the
design
to re
> Right, right, I see...it's "diss Mills time" again!!
> At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do
> things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!!
> Take from it what you want.
> At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all -
Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)
"Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the
design
to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time"
This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation
where
you are i
> everything he does seems to HAVE to have a concept or a reason, and, at
> times it comes across like he makes it all up after he's made the music to
> market it better. (to my un-cultured eyes anyway)
reading the last couple of mails i'd have to agree - does anyone fall for
this bullsh*t?
Hi list,
We have a news item up at the site that might interest some folks:
information about the Movement compilation and the full track listing.
http://www.technotourist.org
John
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I think you're still missing the point. The point is not to "not
> categorize", but that categorization is in and of itself, something that
> promotes closed-mindedness.
i think that YOU are missing the point. catagorisation is not optional - it
is an inate, fundamental and essential part of th
> "Detroit techno sucks"
there is nothing wrong with this statement - he may have heard it all and
doesn't like detroit techno. the catagory of detroit techno is not
problematic - he is using it to tell us what kind of music he doesn't like.
if he doesn't really know what he is talking about then
catagarisation is something that human beings do automatically - it's in our
nature, and the reason we do it is for convenience and efficiency. In other
words it makes life alot easier. How could we communicate on this list if we
didn't do it? I might want to say "i don't like hard-loop techno", an
ssify techno by categories,
>
yes you can.
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, john harvey wrote:
>
> > it is unbelievable how so many people on this list take things
completely
> > the wrong way, and totally out of context, the statement below being a
great
> > example.
it is unbelievable how so many people on this list take things completely
the wrong way, and totally out of context, the statement below being a great
example.
> The key phrase in that being "stuff that Brandan Nelson thinks is good
> techno". Sorry, but there may be other people with differing
I bet it has allot to do with the stage production more than just a
appearance fee!
worst you would get is Movement news in your mail.
John and Grimace - www.detroitmovementguide.com
>> As for white labels turning up in Gramaphone, John Sokolowski+ Matt McQueen- shame on >> you- surely you're not that desperate for food/drink/cigarettes ?? :)
> Naw, I think they just put a price tag on the white you dropped off for them?
Following the Capone school
- but any reduction in noise
> that might potentially lose us valuable contributors is worth it,
what might be noise to you may be important for someone else - who are you
to say what noise is?
They just announced some sponcersLine up comes early April I hear. I
have a meeting with Derrick O. next week and might be able to put some
things down as asolid...with his permission of course.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wasn't it supposed to be announced at WMC?
What's happening with th
What about the guy that threated to unsubscribed because we wanted to
use florescent lighting?
Robert Taylor wrote:
Nah - Parrish uses candles cos they are more real
-Original Message-
From: Quest Pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 5:07 PM
To: Robert Tayl
I almost posted something about this earlier when I went shopping for a
old album. WAY WAY back in 1986 or so I lent a few 12 inchers to a
friend. I remember that Planet Rock was one and the other one that was
Captain Rocks - The return of Captain Rock. Well he was a idiot and left
them in his
fu*king unsubscribe then
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From: "David Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: (313) things / BC re-releases
> I'm sorry, BUT if people are going to keep posting this kind of stuff
(JOKES) I'm
> My live set from the Detroit gig on March 13 at Panacea (with Paul
> Keeley and Luomo) is now online.
this is a great mix dennis, can you post a playlist please?
cheers, john
:]
Sorry I should have been clear on a few things.
I am looking for sets or original material. I need them in mp3 format
128KBS prefered.
When you send them in is not that important...I can add them at will and
rotate as we go.
If you need to mail them in
www.detroitmovementguide.com
32155
artin...Still awaiting to see if you will let me use the 23 Minute
with the Dust boys. You never answered.
John Patterson
cheers, nice mix!
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From: "josh23" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:58 PM
Subject: (313) ..::new mix available::..
> hey all. i'm starting up a little project for myself to put out a new mix
> every month and just post it up
that we are a small crew running the site, that we all have
absorbing day jobs and other hobbies as well.
Tonight we'll be adding another interview to our vault: Detroit Grand
Pubahs. ;-)
John
http://www.technotourist.org
To just label this article as "another wonderful inter
why don't you just f k off
Can everyone who does not want to see shake play at their party raise
there hand?
Thank you...
On 13-mrt-04, at 0:00, Mark S. Krüx wrote:
> Shake, Herbert and Dan Bell [DJ]
>
> Phuture Vs. Sendex [Live]
>
> Afterparty line-upto be determined;)
>
> --
>
> No
Not sure where they got their numbers but I think they are pretty close
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Electronic_Music_Festival
mysterious acts before.
Go to http://www.technotourist.org and follow the links or click
http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=38
And yes, there will be more recent interviews up at Technotourist in the near
future.
Enjoy,
John
I have always wanted to see this DJX700 put up agianst the Pioneer
DJM600 series by someone that knows the difference
Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote:
Sorry, but NO! NO!!! NO!! That mixer is utter, utter sh*te.
My recomendation would be a Technics, or something equally less gimmicky.
, pay the hosting on the
domain, setting up the forums and moderating them with a few respected
members of the community.
John Patterson - Admin of www.detroitmovementguide.com
and what about everone's 2nd techno record?
techno - the new dance sound of detroit
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From: "Mann, Ravinder [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:57 PM
Subject: (313) first techno record
> Just out of interestWhat was the first techno record you bought ?
Does anyone know if Kraftwerk will be playing any East Coast US dates?
Anyone? anyone?
Cheers!
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What's this Juan Atkins - The Mission thing? Full album?
John
>
>Don´t forget to mention the new "section ep" by Claro Intelecto on AI. It´s
>"hot"!
>
>Cheers,
>Maarten
>
>> Top Ten "Techno Buzz Chart"
>> 1. Ross 154 - T
>
>I´m looking forward to seeing marsel delsin tonight. He´s gonna cook some
>macaroni and cheese for me.
--> LOL! Them Dutchies, pretty much hooked up on cheese hu? :)
John
>
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>From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: vrijdag 27
-John Beltran will be at Center Street Pub in Detroit on Thursday the 26th
(this week),
With myself(John Arnold) and Shortround. Celebrating the release of his new
Ubiquity release "In Full Color".
Other dates:
Friday, Feb. 26th Sonotheque - Chicago
-Beltran and Arnold
> > "until my heart stops" is gorgeous! classic classic detroit via
> > holland techno...10+ years old and still fresh for sure!
yeah - this is really good!!!
my fav band is "the handsome family"
check out their last 3 albums.
john
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:25 AM
Subject: (313) bands
> Hello folks.
>
> I'm all buz
In the margin of this topic: if anyone has questions for mister Mayer and his
cohort Reinhardt Voigt... If all goes well I'll be talking with both gentlemen
this Saturday. This (and other) interview(s) will eventually find its (their)
way on to the Technotourist site.
Cheers,
John
&
Let's hope nothing too bad. I'm particularly fond of their stuff on
Force Tracks and the occasional Force Inc.
Anyone hear more 'bout this?
John
---
About 6 months ago giant piles of Force Inc product
on Ebay, apparently listed by people from the label.
A friend has a
Hello list,
Does anybody have a direct contact for Ricardo Villalobos? Hit me back
privately. Thanks in advance!
John
Hello,
Does anybody know a good site to check for events/clubs/record shops/etc. in
Rome? I might be heading down there end of March.
Thanks a lot!
John
Does anybody know any good online interviews with or articles on Ricardo
Villalobos. I've been Googling away, but apart from a few things in German I
haven't been able to dig much up.
Thanks!
John
You guys are making me wish that I kept touring with Amp!
Pias is in charge of Amp's record and they are a Europe based label.
I bet you all the Europe hype will spill over to the states, at least on a
strong underground level (which it has already). Is the mainstream ready
for something this
ters have more things they want to spend their money on; magazines don't
really take up the primary spot in their top 10...
What do you think weighs most on the decline of the paper dance magz?
John
don't worry i get it!
:]
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From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: (313) german to english translation plea
rockenerem Beat aber bleibt ebenso
in dieser wunderbaren Welt der Einheit von Synthesizersounds und Beats, die
hier mit Harmoniewechseln noch einen Hauch Oldschool zur peitschenden 808
Snare bekommen. Brilliante Platte. http://www.digital-soul.co.uk bleed *
many thanks,
john harvey
http://www.nomorewords.net/forcefield/radio.html
there you go - but it often doesn't work - MARSEL!!
its the 2nd one down
:]
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From: "Dave Cronin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'john harvey'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; &qu
i just deleted the playlist - what is the "just happened that way" track?
john
:]
Happy New Year,
There is this huge music archive called the "313 Jukebox" which features
music from Detroit at Gigantic Artspace down on Franklin Street. It's
through January.
http://www.giganticartspace.com
This is from the intro:
Introduction from installation:
Though far removed from Americ
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