RE: [313] Hawtin + Aphex Twin -> NY Times

2001-11-07 Thread dobyrush
liner notes.. heh ;) my comments were from a combination of conversations with him, articles i've read, and from video clips of the de9:ce & final scratch discussion/demo he did in new york not too long ago. http://www.music-mag.com/News/2001/sept/hawtin_video.htm At 9:52 PM -0800 11/6/01, F

Re: [313] Hearing Loss

2001-11-06 Thread dobyrush
At 12:39 AM -0500 11/6/01, Phonopsia wrote: On this rather depressing note, has anyone heard yay or nay to the rumor that laurent garnier is giving up or cutting back on DJing due to hearing loss? That would be awful. yep, i've heard that. no way to know if it's actually true, but i've heard

Re: [313] speaking of hawtin... (was Re: [313] Hawtin + Aphex Twin -> NY Times)

2001-11-05 Thread dobyrush
he said that was probably the best time he's ever had playing in SF. his set the following night in LA was quite similar.. came on, floored it for a while, backed off and played some de9:ce tracks, and then wound up banging it out again - but more funky, like you said. he snuck in that You Spin

Re: [313] Hawtin + Aphex Twin -> NY Times

2001-11-05 Thread dobyrush
At 2:27 AM -0800 11/5/01, M. Todd Smith wrote: I would really like to know what Final Scratch had to do with DE9 2, besides being an influence on it (whatever that means). in using final scratch more and more, richie has started re-editing, re-mixing, re-interpreting tracks since he can do so

RE: [313] technology

2001-10-23 Thread dobyrush
yep, it was woody's party. took place on an unbelievably cold night in minneapolis. At 9:51 AM -0700 10/22/01, FC3 Richards wrote: wasn't that party thrown by woody mcbride? i have heard numerous times that party was one of the best in the MW...kinda makes we wanna live in the old times...

Re: [313] santos rodriguez

2001-10-21 Thread dobyrush
that would make me feel much better, since i also read the same thing somewhere ;) At 11:27 AM +0100 10/21/01, seth redmond wrote: Santos Rodriguez = Steve Bicknell. I've read this in magazines and I was pretty sure it hinted at it in the promo notes for Road to Rio... I'll check later -

Re: [313] technology

2001-10-21 Thread dobyrush
it wasn't a dis... i like that song, personally. was just pointing out that the version he's got in his computer is not the version you'll hear on the radio or anywhere else. At 3:16 PM +1000 10/21/01, hunter baby wrote: maybe i'm still getting it all wrong - but is it still cool to diss come

Re: [313] technology

2001-10-21 Thread dobyrush
he is dropping is own version of Get Ur Freak On but it's still cool nonetheless. his supposed lack of humor is a common misconception, it seems. he once opened a set in minneapolis with the entirety of Stairway To Heaven - and i mean the whole damn song. the party was called Stairway

Re: [313] santos rodriguez

2001-10-21 Thread dobyrush
not too long ago there was a discussion about this on global-techno. there were a lot of answers, but i don't know that there was ever a consensus. i really think/thought that santos is steve bicknell cuz i actually read that somewhere, but max duley (who prolly oughta know...) swore that it w

Re: [313] Hawtin & Magda

2001-10-03 Thread dobyrush
that was not remotely an attack, nor was it a defense. it was an honest statement. At 8:28 PM + 10/3/01, Jayson B. wrote: it's pretty amazing that you stuck around for 6 hours if you were bored. I've stuck around many times for lengths for dj's that i expected to impress me. I've se

Re: [313] Hawtin & Magda

2001-10-03 Thread dobyrush
that was not remotely an attack, nor was it a defense. it was an honest statement. At 8:28 PM + 10/3/01, Jayson B. wrote: it's pretty amazing that you stuck around for 6 hours if you were bored. I've stuck around many times for lengths for dj's that i expected to impress me. I've se

Re: [313] Hawtin & Magda

2001-10-03 Thread dobyrush
it's pretty amazing that you stuck around for 6 hours if you were bored. At 4:58 PM +0100 10/3/01, Gary Girard wrote: Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 I wouldn't say I wasn't in the mood for it, I just ne

Re: [313] Hawtin & Magda

2001-10-03 Thread dobyrush
it's pretty amazing that you stuck around for 6 hours if you were bored. At 4:58 PM +0100 10/3/01, Gary Girard wrote: Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 I wouldn't say I wasn't in the mood for it, I just ne

Re: [313] what ever happened to... was [313] Eric Haupt/upstage

2001-09-20 Thread dobyrush
oh yeah! the star wars guys... who brought out every piece of equipment ever made in order to do a live show. At 2:49 AM -0400 9/20/01, Mike Taylor wrote: Hatatomic? Other mid-90's acts that no one has heard from in years? From: diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:

Re: [313] Richie Hawtin DE9-Closer to the Edit

2001-09-15 Thread dobyrush
rich's LA gig this weekend has been cancelled. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[313] de9:ce sample player

2001-09-14 Thread dobyrush
there's a nifty sample player loop thingy download @ m-nus.com -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [313] Track ID Please?!!

2001-09-09 Thread dobyrush
Dope Computer was the A side of the record, but that track is called Flash. Artist is Fix, on KMS. At 1:24 AM -0400 9/9/01, Dan Kurzius wrote: Isn't that 'Dope Computer' released on KMS?!?!? dK -Original Message- From: Christian Bloch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, Septemb

Re: [313] closer to the edit tour

2001-08-22 Thread dobyrush
if he follows form, those parties only happen every 5 years... At 11:13 AM -0400 8/21/01, Ian wrote: on 8/21/01 4:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richie Hawtin will go on tour to promote his new ´closer to the edit´ album: October 30, 2001 - Birmingham, UK October 31, 2001 - L Enfer Club P

Re: QRe: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)

2001-08-15 Thread dobyrush
i should also add, just to counter myself, that the greatly reduced distribution costs idea might end up being a big lie anyway. it sure was with the switch to CDs. we'll see. At 7:31 AM -0700 8/15/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: exactly.. you can record to a pristine digital 24/96 environment i

Re: QRe: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)

2001-08-15 Thread dobyrush
exactly.. you can record to a pristine digital 24/96 environment if you like, and then play that digital recording out. only consideration is file size. so technically finalscratch could sound better than records ever did. as for independent labels and distribution, a) this won't happen over

Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)

2001-08-15 Thread dobyrush
it's not ready for purchase yet; should be 'soon'. supposedly will be around $500. no special hardware is needed, other than the breakout box and the two pieces of special vinyl that will come with the system... and a pc running at least 500mhz P3 with a USB connection. the breakout connects

Re: [313] closer to the edit

2001-07-09 Thread dobyrush
also very excited to hear this... i know this is nitpicky, but i hear references all the time to how the DE9 cd was nothing but 'straight ahead' bam bam bam... didn't anyone listen to the latter 1/3 of that cd? from about the Pacou track on, he really switches gears. only making this point b

[313] Re: how many...? (was Richie in SF..)

2001-07-08 Thread dobyrush
it's true. At 3:42 PM +0100 7/8/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in my set of techno toptrumps (came free with the dj hell X-mix album) it claims that Acquaviva has 40,000 records in his collection. Can this be true? I don't think I own 40,000 things, let alone tunes. (It also lists Sven Vath as

Re: [313] Richie in SF..

2001-07-05 Thread dobyrush
he and john are nothing if not complusive record shoppers. and travelling the world doesn't hurt matters either. still, we used to joke that there was some private factory in germany making records only for rich... he ALWAYS has stuff you've never heard before. At 10:10 AM -0700 7/5/01, Bulg

Re: [313] richie's gear

2001-05-30 Thread dobyrush
purely live, i.e. no turntables... not very. not the direction he's heading... but there seems to be more and more "+" in the de9+, so it's just semantics. sorta. At 3:14 PM + 5/30/01, Jayson B. wrote: ive seen richie perform live - very intense. nearly all jammed live on >classic roland

Re: [313] richie

2001-05-30 Thread dobyrush
i was at that autechre party... At 7:52 PM -0400 5/29/01, Dharma Fowler wrote: speaking of richie, i think two of his best parties were the cd release party for "consumed" and another one in toronto called "ritual submission" a few years ago. autechre was also there. did anybody else on the

Re: [313] Looking for Gaetano Parisio's ART10 2x12"

2001-05-23 Thread dobyrush
10?? when did 10 come out? 9 was not very long ago. At 1:51 PM +0300 5/23/01, Nuutti-Iivari Meriläinen wrote: I'm terribly sorry to waste the bandwidth, but I just haven't been able to locate the last in Gaetano Parisio's ART series anywhere. It was released a while back but not one mail ord

[313] sunny demf

2001-05-21 Thread dobyrush
http://www.weather.com/weather/local/48202 -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [313] true/false

2001-05-17 Thread dobyrush
too many G's! so stanny is G-force, but i dunno where the LFO comment came from.. that's Gez. sorry for the confusion. At 2:21 PM +0100 5/17/01, scott mcgill wrote: Wasn't it Mark Bell and Gez Varley (G-Man) in LFO yes, you are right on the Mr G thing, easy to mix it up. - Origi

Re: [313] true/false

2001-05-17 Thread dobyrush
h yeah... so who the heck was using G-Force? At 11:47 PM -0700 5/16/01, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: >>>>> "dr" == dobyrush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: dr> FALSE, sort of... dr> Colin McBean, (formerly) 1/2 of The Advent, = Mr. G dr&

RE: [313] true/false

2001-05-17 Thread dobyrush
FALSE, sort of... Colin McBean, (formerly) 1/2 of The Advent, = Mr. G Cisco Ferreira, the other 1/2 of The Advent, = G Flame The Advent as it stands currently is only Cisco, so technically The Advent = G Flame. ...and Stanny Franssen (formerly of LFO) = G-Force. At 12:37 AM -0400 5/17/01, D

Re: [313] global underground and deck, efx, and 909

2001-05-10 Thread dobyrush
yes. the original mix was much longer. he recorded it, pulled it into acid and came up with what you hear... he has discussed this in interviews, etc. definitely was digitally processed after being recorded with the equipment listed. At 1:10 PM -0700 5/9/01, Samuel Hobbs wrote: i am loo

Re: [313] t-1000

2001-05-06 Thread dobyrush
http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/ol2k/library/aoldham.htm At 4:51 PM -0400 5/6/01, Andy Battle wrote: anyone know of any articles/interviews with dj t-1000/alan oldham? thanks. --

Re: [313] MTV UK

2001-05-05 Thread dobyrush
that 'extra' video is great... At 2:16 AM +0100 5/5/01, tim maughan wrote: for all you that were "hating" me the other night for saying we got jaguar played a lot on MTV in the UK, thought you'd like to know since i got back from the pub tonite ive seen "on" and "window licker" by aphex twin,

Re: [313] 313TechKnow

2001-04-28 Thread dobyrush
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/313techknow At 4:40 PM -0400 4/28/01, Graeme ~ wrote: Can someone send me the sign up address / URL for this? I know it was posted last week, but I deleted the message it was in. Cheers! _ Get your F

Re: [313] Quick question...

2001-04-27 Thread dobyrush
even if you don't 'dj' in the go out and do it places sense, there's every reason to not only have a tuntable at home, but to have 2 (or 3) tables, a mixer, etc at home. first of all, all the good techno is only on vinyl and that's just the way it is right now, plus learning to mix (even a lit

Re: [313] Best of the best...

2001-04-22 Thread dobyrush
i LOVE the Leave Me Now version with her vocals. At 2:20 AM -0400 4/22/01, Phonopsia wrote: I second the Herbert/Sicialano vote. She's probably my fav vocalist at the moment. If "Leave Me Now" ever gets a proper release (although nt Sicialano), that's a great track on which tp build since it's

Re: [313] Hey mac Users!

2001-04-04 Thread dobyrush
for the record, itunes has never crashed or crashed my system. every other mac mp3 player i've used has. At 11:16 AM -0400 4/4/01, Sean Deason wrote: any other Mac users out there with iTunes installed? just listening to the "DJing Classics" in the Electronica section. nice stuff! theyre playi

Re: [313] Christian Morgensen

2001-04-04 Thread dobyrush
it's Christian Morgenstern can't tell you much about him except that i like his stuff. the new Hawaii Blue on Forte is really nice. At 2:32 PM +1000 4/4/01, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I wondered if anyone is familiar with Christian Morgensen, a techno producer out of Cologne. I mainly want to veri

Re: [313] Jeff Mills and song id & Green Velvet

2001-04-03 Thread dobyrush
cajmere (out) used to equal the cajual sound - you are correct. 4-5 years ago, that is. At 2:04 AM +0100 4/3/01, scott mcgill wrote: Curtis is a top producer with a real quirkyness to the sound, we cannot all be too serious. I think Rush owes a bit to him. I think he is a better producer as h

Re: [313] Mills and the 909

2001-03-29 Thread dobyrush
At 3:38 PM -0500 3/28/01, dj revolver wrote: get the jeff mills live at liquid room cd. extensive use of the 909 and performed very well. there's no 909 use in the liquid room cd.

Re: [313] spastik

2001-03-23 Thread dobyrush
slak/kriket @ spastik was relased on the sickness/panikattack cd single. so yes, there is a recording of spastik. does anyone have it.. other than rich, i highly doubt it. At 10:37 PM -0800 3/22/01, Samuel Hobbs wrote: tonight i was doing some general searches on napster under plastikman whe

RE: [313] Groovetech website

2000-11-09 Thread dobyrush
yep, that REALLY sucks. i have a dsl connection and it's still virtually unusable. this thing is a design catastrophe, unless you only plan on using it for wallpaper. and requiring people to log in order to do anything is a major mistake. At 4:00 AM + 11/9/00, FRED MCMURRY wrote: I just

Re: [313] Mistress Barbra

2000-11-07 Thread dobyrush
That sounds like 'Aural Exciter' but that's not Mistress Barbara; it's by Glen Wilson and Mike Humphries. Punish #4. Her proper British accent makes the whole thing SO nice... ;) At 3:16 PM -0800 11/7/00, FC3 Richards wrote: I am looking for a track that i was told was done by Mistress Barbr

Re: [313] Mayday mix..........albumn

2000-11-04 Thread dobyrush
ah, the eternal question. the line for answers to that one forms to the left - 10 years ago. one can only hope. At 4:26 AM -0800 11/4/00, Sam Karmel wrote: hi 313 I got the Derrick May mix of Jaguar today. Very nice production. My question is does Derrick May have any plans of doing a full

Re: [313] Are Juan Atkins & Eddie "Flashin'" Fowlkes L.A. residents now?

2000-11-04 Thread dobyrush
Don't know about Eddie, but as for Juan, yes, he's in LA now. At 5:22 PM -0800 11/3/00, Greg Earle wrote: I'm seeing a lot of listings with Eddie "Flashin'" Fowlkes on our local SoCal rave calendars of late. In our current one, he's listed 3 times. I've also been seeing Juan's name pop up more

Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold

2000-11-02 Thread dobyrush
uh oh... At 10:56 AM -0500 11/2/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, i heard that Paul Oakenfold is going to be in Grand Rapids either this weekend or next. does anyone have any info on that. i really want to go but i don't even know the date, info line, or where in G.R, it is. thanx :) Cori --

Re: [313] Detroit Trance

2000-10-31 Thread dobyrush
rippin' arpeggios, pumpin 909 kicks, and swirling psychedelic dolphin noises. still busy laughing ;)

Re: [313] heiko laux?

2000-10-27 Thread dobyrush
buy Sensefiction.. very, very good LP - like most of the stuff on kanzleramt. hard to categorize.. mintechdubelectrohouse; just good. groovetech has 4 clips from that album which might help you get an idea of the sound. recommended - same with the remixes. speaking of kanzleramt, the new die

Re: [313] Smallfish Website

2000-10-24 Thread dobyrush
is smallfish also a label? At 12:27 PM +0800 10/24/00, Batory, Jason wrote: For those who don't know. The Smallfish records website is now up and running. Check it out: http://www.smallfish.co.uk Respect JasonB - To unsubsc

Re: [313] mills silliness

2000-10-04 Thread dobyrush
jeff sometimes has records in the small of his back/in his pants, under his arms, between his legs... At 8:25 PM +0200 10/3/00, peter mueller wrote: well, i think the only reason for doing so is due to the speed of mixing. it saves a lot of time (but obviously not good for the records).

Re: [313] richard harvey explanation

2000-10-02 Thread dobyrush
And I believe that richard harvey is also an alias... At 11:39 PM -0700 10/1/00, john holmes wrote: richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is from london, he is also know as "user" which is some of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that appear on the decks, efx, & 909 di

Re: [313] Yet another Track ID

2000-10-02 Thread dobyrush
I have that record.. pretty sure it's not Jon Carter... hmph... I can't find it right now, so maybe it is. ;) At 7:18 PM -0400 10/1/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok since every1 has been putting these ID's up, figured I would add one which I would love to have. Derrick May's live at fuse. Th

Re: [313] Q about Detroit, Richard Harvey...

2000-10-01 Thread dobyrush
Also, is Richard Harvey really Ritchie Hawtin? Nope. And there's no 't', BTW.

Re: [313] plus8 in sf

2000-09-26 Thread dobyrush
In general talking about Rich is a dead end, or at least I try not to do it on this list - but since HP asked. ;) Likewise, Rich is still very much an inspiration. It's funny to me how popular it has become to slag him for media sensation this and that... he has always cared deeply for present

Re: [313] From Our Minds To Yours - October 28th, 2000, Detroit, Michigan

2000-09-25 Thread dobyrush
Fixer and I went to see Richie & John do the Plus 8 Classics tour thing at Giant in LA last night. Me too. (and a "Join In The Chant" remix encore! Long time no hear) done with all the house lights on.. which was bizarre all by itself. Earlier John dropped a Dead Or Alive/You Spin Me 'Roun

The Kinky Scientist - Mid-Life Crisis

2000-09-12 Thread dobyrush
Very nice work, Fred.

Re: [313] Any Info. on the big Plus 8 Party?

2000-09-09 Thread dobyrush
that's just the release party. look at the calendar for october. At 11:28 AM -0400 9/9/00, Kyle J Dupuy wrote: check the m-nus website: Who: Richie Hawtin, John Acquaviva & Kenny Larkin What: Plus 8 Classics Release Party When: September 27, 2000. Where: Record Time Detroit, USA Info: Spec

RE: [313] Re: track id?

2000-09-07 Thread dobyrush
Wasn't Acid Eiffel, good track as that is. and let's face it.. what the hell was 2/3 of what he played in that last hour? Unbelievable. > It def. was not a 303 bass line, I'm guessing the "wow-wow" sounds were probably made by a Juno. But after hearing Acid Eiffel again, i'm gonna hu

Re: [313] hollywood & music...

2000-09-02 Thread dobyrush
Colors ('88) At 9:04 PM + 9/2/00, Sanderson Dear wrote: since we're on the topic of hollywood & music... i've got a question. does anyone know what movie soundtrack did so good that it's spawned this "cookie cutter" approach to music scoring now? because for a long while record companies

Re: [313] Richie Hawtin is the future of Detroit Techno.

2000-07-17 Thread dobyrush
plastikfan.org At 2:28 AM -0500 7/17/00, stephen wrote: Someone made a Richie Hawtin Discography page that was posted on 313 awhile back, not the one on www.m-nus.com/ Could someone please drop me a link? Forgot to bookmark the page and cant find it on a search engine. thanks, stephen. ---

Re: [313] Underground Classic Gets Sampled

2000-07-17 Thread dobyrush
Sure it's Lil' Louis' track, but somehow Derrick May should get the credit for this... :) At 5:37 PM +0900 7/17/00, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Wow. The new Lil' Kim record features a sample of French Kiss on this track Custom Made (Give It To You)!! What next? Your favourite underground techno clas

Re: [313] Surgeon - contact address

2000-07-14 Thread dobyrush
http://www.dj-surgeon.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 9:11 PM -0400 7/13/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody have a contact address for Surgeon? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PR

Re: [313] Black Dog CD at Satellite

2000-06-28 Thread dobyrush
At 11:39 PM +0200 6/28/00, Jernej Marusic wrote: I've been listening to the great DEMF sets on groovetech and till now haven't even realized that they also sell records :) I'll check what they got. that's maybe the one not-so-smart thing about Groovetech: the record store is under Listening La

Re: [313] Black Dog CD at Satellite

2000-06-28 Thread dobyrush
Yes - Groovetech is superb. At 2:04 PM -0700 6/28/00, FRED MCMURRY wrote: My experience with Groovetech has been excellent. I've made several orders from them now and get them within 3 days, every time. Never a messed up order and their online site has realaudio samples of every record/CD (exc

Fwd: (G-TECH) dj horsepower

2000-06-28 Thread dobyrush
;) From: "lars relander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Global-techno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: (G-TECH) dj horsepower Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:43:17 +0300 X-Priority: 3 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "lars relander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Comment: To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe global-techn

Re: [313] Older people's views on detriot?

2000-06-26 Thread dobyrush
At 6:18 PM -0400 6/26/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've watched some of the best DJs that have ever come to midwest and find most of them tend to be in their mid to late thirties. I think it's great that they still enjoy the scene and are willing to share their extreme talents with us young

Re: [313] favorite mills track

2000-06-24 Thread dobyrush
i don't know about favorite.. that's tough. but i really like Spider Formation.

Re: [313] Software question revisited

2000-06-22 Thread dobyrush
you should buy the software, try it, and then ask your question here: http://www.egroups.com/group/tech-gear or sub to these and do some homework: http://www.egroups.com/group/vst-mac - if you have a mac http://www.egroups.com/group/cubase-users http://www.egroups.com/group/logic-users - over 3

Re: [313] Re: Girls and Detroit

2000-06-19 Thread dobyrush
Dustin? -Original Message- From: Dance Extacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: Sunday, June 18, 2000 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: Girls and Detroit >>-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are calling out >Diana, my friend, be prepared. She's tougher tha

Re: [313] Re: Girls and Detroit

2000-06-18 Thread dobyrush
>>---Diana Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>curves,brains,intuition and all.I am proud that I come >>with these insticts that men will never understand, >500 pounds is more then just curves dear. time OUT a second... if your comment means what it sounds like, you are completely out of line.

RE: [313] DEMF & real audio?

2000-05-28 Thread dobyrush
At 3:34 AM -0500 5/28/00, stephen wrote: hey, where's the live real audio/ video stream? not much info on the DEMF site. thanks, stephen. www.groovetech.com/demf

Re: [313] DEMF & 'Hurt Feelings'

2000-05-27 Thread dobyrush
There's about 100 arguable, semi-ridiculous points in that original posting. The loudest one seems to be: if you've never heard Alan you really can't make all these subjective assumptions about what he does and doesn't play - even if you have snippets of quotes from Alan himself and the sounds of

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-26 Thread dobyrush
>I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. Speedy J? Ben Sims? (not sure about Ben...)