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From: Jari Tolkkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>On the topic of who gets the money.
>
>Do you guys think it's morally wrong to download a song that is
somehow
>impossible to get? We all know many cases where the record has
been long
>delet
I know this thread is getting long in the tooth but aren't we missing
something here?
If you're on a major label the relevant bodies (BMI/ASCAP and then
RIAA/BPI, I don't really care about the details) will fight your corner
with a huge gang of lawyers and X million dollar fines.
The take
On the topic of who gets the money.
Do you guys think it's morally wrong to download a song that is somehow
impossible to get? We all know many cases where the record has been long
deleted and it is only possible to get from ebay/gemm/where ever.
Example: Let's assume I whip up 40-50e for a
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313@hyperreal.org
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>whose bills got paid when i bought the d-train boot this week?
buying bootlegs should be a last resort only. what d-train record
couldnt you find that you had to buy a bootleg of it?
>and all those trax reco
whose bills got paid when i bought the d-train boot this week?
and all those trax records i own - i paid someone's bills, but it wasn't
larry heard's or adonis's. it paid larry sherman's bills.
if my money isn't going to go to the artist i'd rather not give it to the
person who worked out how
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Re: (313) Italian dj fined over one
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>how does buying vinyl help? half my record collection contains
illegal
>samples or outright bootlegs and re-edits - from 'planet rock',
through to
>the d-train boot that arrived in the mail this week (thanks
pi
how does buying vinyl help? half my record collection contains illegal
samples or outright bootlegs and re-edits - from 'planet rock', through to
the d-train boot that arrived in the mail this week (thanks piccadilly).
sampling, bootlegging, biting and copying is at the very heart of modern
dan
I think so, you would have to have thorough surveillance. I thought those
Syd DJs were selling bootleg mixtapes, and of R&B/hip-hop, is that the same
case?
> I think it was last year (or perhaps the year before) that a couple of
> dj's in Sydney got taken to court for playing mp3 at gigs. And in
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From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I agree, it's not like he's selling pirated copies. I imagine a
lot of DJs
>have at least one or two' illegal' downloads, maybe of a rare
mash-up or
>remix. I think this may be a wake up call
I think it was last year (or perhaps the year before) that a couple of
dj's in Sydney got taken to court for playing mp3 at gigs. And in their
cases they were playing commerical dance, r&b and hip hop every weekend
at a sport bar in Sydney.
Judging from the article that I read, it sounded like tha
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>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) Italian dj fined over one million
>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:37 PM
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>
>>i can't help but think tho that the approach they're taking is a little
> ott
>
> I'm not so sure I agree.
>
> How else
Interesting. He must play 'commercial', major label music - ie R&B/hip-hop -
as if he was playing house or underground music surely no one would pursue
him so aggressively?
>>ouch! he must have been making a lot of money for them to think he can
>>pay this off tho surely. all the same this seems a
>>They should at least keep the fine reasonable.
>If they did that, I don't reckon it would deter anyone..?
sure it would. i mean $10,000 is still outlandish, but plenty of deterrance.
1.4 million is just insanity.
besides, you're skipping to "the big picture", while a sacrificial lamb is
being
Hi Gavin.
Great post. Anyway.,..
>but is he making money out of it?
Ok, just to clarify - I wasn't assuming he was selling these on. However,
the article stated he was a 'well known dj'. So, therefore, he's plying his
trade with illegally copied stuff. So he is deffo making money.
And well, I
>How's the poor bugg4r gonna pay 1.4Mil euros?
Hopefully they'll make him do a s**t job like me for the rest of his life.
>They should at least keep the fine reasonable.
If they did that, I don't reckon it would deter anyone..?
>It's not really fair that he'll be lumbered with this for the res
How do they know he doesn't own any of the music at home - which would
make the mp3 copies legal? It seems to me you can't just look at his
computer, right?
~David
I'd guess all that would be checked before attempting to charge someone
...
k
How do they know he doesn't own any of the music at home - which would make the
mp3 copies legal? It seems to me you can't just look at his computer, right?
~David
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>ouch! he must have been making a lot of money for them to think he can
>pay this off tho surely. all the same this seems a little harsh.
>any idea who it is
>what i worry about is them stopping mp3 mixes on the internet, which is
>a separate thing.
yeah, DEFFO a totally different thing
(in my wonky eyes anyway)
Alex
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you know what, you're right.
what i worry about is them stopping mp3 mixes on the internet, which is
a separate thing.
all else is fair enough.
robin...
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i can't help but think tho that the approach they're taking is a little
ott
I'm not so sure I agree.
How els
>i can't help but think tho that the approach they're taking is a little
ott
I'm not so sure I agree.
How else are they going to deter people from doing it?
This seems an ideal way to me, especially as the guy was using them for
commercial purposes.
Everyone thinks they can get away with it at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ouch! he must have been making a lot of money for them to think he can
pay this off tho surely. all the same this seems a little harsh.
any idea who it is? will i have heard of him?
I say GOOD.
The thieving, mp3-using, fly-by-night of a dj. Should be paying for his
sh
>ouch! he must have been making a lot of money for them to think he can
>pay this off tho surely. all the same this seems a little harsh.
>any idea who it is? will i have heard of him?
I say GOOD.
The thieving, mp3-using, fly-by-night of a dj. Should be paying for his
shizzle if he's not getting
ouch! he must have been making a lot of money for them to think he can
pay this off tho surely. all the same this seems a little harsh.
any idea who it is? will i have heard of him?
robin...
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