Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-20 Thread JARED WILSON
draw distinctions between the two. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: 19 Jul 2000 21:25:53 - Well, I must say Jared has gone right to one of the central dilemmas of philos

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread Mike Taylor
> You can be dogmatic about this if you like, Jared, but don't expect > us to go along with it just because you say so. I say we just grab everybody who is arguing on this lame thread and have them Mud wrestle for a special event at a New Girl Order Wrestling night at The Old Miami, last man stand

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread phred
Well, I must say Jared has gone right to one of the central dilemmas of philosophy. Do words have a common meaning or do they mean only what we individually say they do, like we were living in Wonderland. "experimental" has a scientific and technical meaning that is quite precise, but "experiment

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread JARED WILSON
re informed. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: mkarora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: JARED WILSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:07:06 -0400 (EDT) oh no, here we go again... i agree w/ the followin

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread mkarora
ere near > "experimental". It is pastiche. > Just remember you are the one that has perceived me as being "rude". > > Jared Wilson > OBSOLETE RECORDS > > > >From: Nathan John de Yonker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: JARED WILSON <[EMAIL

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread Cyborg K
es, or algorhythms. Anyway this seems like one valid way to conceptualize the possibility of experimental music. --dave Original Message Follows From: "JARED WILSON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Ju

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread Peter B Leidy
de". > > Jared Wilson > OBSOLETE RECORDS > > > >From: Nathan John de Yonker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: JARED WILSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom > >Date: Wed, 19 Jul

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread JARED WILSON
are the one that has perceived me as being "rude". Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Nathan John de Yonker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: JARED WILSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:12:05 -0400

RE: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread Dennis Donohue
I just have to put my $0.02 in. Music = Sound + Soul dennis- From: "Anderson, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'JARED WILSON'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Techno Visual Arts +

RE: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread Nick Walsh
trapping the listener in to your > way of thinking. > > > -Original Message- > From: JARED WILSON [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 3:53 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom > > I would

RE: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread Anderson, Stuart
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 3:53 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom I would disagree. Experimentation does not exist. You state, "so if I sit down to make a track, if I do not start out with a concrete idea but instead figure

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread Todd Smith
henia, and room tone aren't > exactly inventing new forms of wheels, either. Perhaps you could give us > some more concrete examples of what "experimental art" means to you (no > pun intended with the concrete) > n8 > > > > > Jared Wilson > > OBSOLETE RE

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread Nathan John de Yonker
e us some more concrete examples of what "experimental art" means to you (no pun intended with the concrete) n8 > > Jared Wilson > OBSOLETE RECORDS > > > >From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: JARED WILSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: [EMAIL PR

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread JARED WILSON
any comments. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: JARED WILSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:23:27 +0100 (BST) > Micho, > >

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread Neil
> Micho, > > I realy do not believe what you are doing or have done would be concidered > "experimental". If it involves experimentation it is experimental - so if I sit down to make a track, if I do not start out with a concrete idea but instead figure it out as i go, then this is "experiment

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread JARED WILSON
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:54:12 GMT and for other detroit visual artists in close relation to techno, 313's very own meighen & micho. . . art?: I was trying to hide behind my tv

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-19 Thread synthetic detronik
and for other detroit visual artists in close relation to techno, 313's very own meighen & micho. . . art?: I was trying to hide behind my tv's. I think anyone that lives here in detroit has probably seen my work at one time or another. Most dont know me though. I do the massive televisio

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts

2000-07-18 Thread JARED WILSON
) and utilizing delay to move the rhythm around the room. I look forward to any responses or questions. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: "Cyborg K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:10:39 GMT Hi, this

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-17 Thread sean deason
set went well for sat.'s sonic boom...anyone care > to post a review of other sets &/or the space itself? > > kelli > >> From: William VanLoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Counterforce - Lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> CC: 313 <313@hyperr

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom

2000-07-17 Thread kelli b kavanaugh
or sat.'s sonic boom...anyone care to post a review of other sets &/or the space itself? kelli From: William VanLoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Counterforce - Lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: 313 <313@hyperreal.org>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts Dat

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts

2000-07-17 Thread JARED WILSON
;Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:05:13 CDT Wow! sounds like you are having fun! My name is Dennis Donohue, and I'm originally from the D, though i live in chicago right now. If you wouldn't mind

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts

2000-07-17 Thread JARED WILSON
Haye! Besides the excelent work of Abdul Haqq on Submerge, does anyone know of any visual artists *directly* connected to 313 Techno? Okay, there are some who you might think as fitting in what you'd expect from visual arts in techno, but I mean people who are in close relationship with the

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts

2000-07-17 Thread Diana Potts
I'm not dale, but I am a big fan of Ron's work. Ive seen both his Live PAs, instalments and paintings and all are done very well & come highly suggested if you get to see/hear them. Dale has this incredible painting of Ron's in his house,every time I see it I see something new & just marvel.An

Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts

2000-07-17 Thread William VanLoo
Check out this article: http://www.motormouth.org/iksrtfo/txt/artist-profiles/ronzakrin/index.shtml I've never seen the Ghost200 live PA, but I have seen Ron Zakrin's visual art. Dale, you wanna shed any light on this subject? Bill VanLoo Counterforce - Lay wrote: > > Haye! > > Besides the