Hi all,
Last week I received the Axis newsletter. Apparently there is a new
art-exhibition in Los Angeles coming up, "Infinite Libraries", and
Jeff Mills made 14 exclusive tracks for it, a CD called "Galaxy".
The thing is, only 5 of these CD's exist and they cost $ 160 US each.
This makes me won
are you suggesting that the SO thong is 'right'? ;)
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From: David Gillies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 24 June 2005 10:53
To: Cyclone Wehner
Cc: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
Cyclone Wehner wrote:
> Maybe they can do a n
Cyclone Wehner wrote:
> Maybe they can do a nice skin care range for the ladies who spend too much
> time in clubs. And a perfume would be nice...
> No! An Axis thong ain't right at all!
How's about a Southern Outpost one?
http://www.cafepress.com/so612.5737450
:-P
Maybe they can do a nice skin care range for the ladies who spend too much
time in clubs. And a perfume would be nice...
No! An Axis thong ain't right at all!
> they had a whole heap of art stuff there that you couldn't buy. disk
> union basically stocks the same merchandise as the submerge store
> I draw the
> line at axis/hello kitty underwear tho
Why? That's soo hot.
Kamal K. Stoddard
Turner Broadcasting Systems
r tho
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From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:10
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
Yeah it was Disk Union (thanks, I couldn't recall the name!) - there
wasn't much maybe as I raided it first. ;) He he he.
Yeah it was Disk Union (thanks, I couldn't recall the name!) - there wasn't
much maybe as I raided it first. ;) He he he.
I want a Hello Kitty Axis record bag. And maybe a frisbee.
> isnt' that shibuya store disk union? there wans't THAT much stuff. of
> course maybe I was expecting a lot more ;)
ello kitty... special pink edition!
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From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:51
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
Maybe. Though I think Jeff has a gentle sense of humour... I don't think
he has a res
Maybe. Though I think Jeff has a gentle sense of humour... I don't think he
has a residency in Japan, just plays there a lot. The Japanese market is
amazing though. In one store in Shibuya there's a whole wall devoted to the
Detroit fest.
I would like an Axis Hello Kitty range though... with sweatb
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From: "Melody Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I think part of the reason why we're all so cynical is because
axis is
>so serious about it?
i like inventive mechandise. i always wanted a pair of those
metalheadz shoes but they were crazy mone
2:15
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
Man, why y'all so cynical (though you all make me laugh with the
suggestions, esp Alex). I think it's a good thing to merchandise...
Label owners need to be inventive to generate funds for labels with the
drop in music
Bate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 3:08 AM
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>
>>
>>shouldn't KMS be marketing the hoover - after all Kevin did invent it or
>>are you saying that Metroplex sucks?
>&g
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If you think this is bad, you should see the merchandise table at a Laibach
show. Every conceivable piece of male dress can be made an "official
Laibach" item. $50 for a tie. $100 for fez. BUT you can get your Laibach
passport stamped for free.
At 03:44 PM 6/22/2005, Benoît Pueyo wrote:
i alm
i almost bought the Axis tie at Sonar ...
very classy !
they had some nice "performance shirts" aswell hehe
--
Benoît.
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cool, but they're not the first. i remember having a sweat band for snitzer & mc coy's "we will rock you" release on superstition.
http://www.a
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>
>shouldn't KMS be marketing the hoover - after all Kevin did invent it or
>are you saying that Metroplex sucks?
>
>;)
>
>
Kevin definitely did NOT invent the hoover. Talk to Roland. Who ever
programmed
that patch on the Alpha Juno series, is the one that invented
Heh, Axis's Lemonade Stand raising money for Jeff Mills' nanotech
immortality research.
At 11:32 AM 6/22/2005, chad cumby wrote:
if anyone is at the Mills gig tonight at Grant Park in Chicago, I'll be
outside
selling Axis POWER Lemonade for $5 a cup.
--
/* Halley */ (Halley's comment.)
matt
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> Subject
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cool, but they're not the first. i remember having a sweat band for snitzer &
mc coy's "we will rock you" release on superstition.
>http://www.axisrecords.com
>
>Is this going too far?
yperreal.org>
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Delsin dance cage & tennis racket are all things I will be looking into
producing.
I think a little Marsel action figure with a gyrating cage dancing pelvis
would be good too. Not that I in a
> Delsin dance cage & tennis racket are all things I will be looking into
> producing.
I think a little Marsel action figure with a gyrating cage dancing pelvis
would be good too. Not that I in any way shape or form get your Marsel cage
dancing gag, but it makes me laugh all the same. We had him
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 June 2005 11:24
>
> the KMS chopstick, Metroplex hoover, Underground Resistance
> Pink handbag, Delsin dance cage & tennis racket are all
> things I will be looking into producing.
What about New Relig
>Is this going too far?
definitely not.
infact, this is just the beginning, I have a P&D deal with ACME, and I
shall be offering domestic techno products up soon.
the KMS chopstick, Metroplex hoover, Underground Resistance Pink handbag,
Delsin dance cage & tennis racket are all things I will be
http://www.axisrecords.com
Is this going too far?
#
Note:
Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
represent
those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically s
i quite like it tbh, I mean why not? hold your head up high man and wear
those sandals! :)
>>Marco in Eukatech Records(london)was telling me he was trying to sort out
> a deal with Mills to sell that stuff in >the store, and I dont think it
> would sell.
>
> There's no chance I'd buy any of it fro
>Marco in Eukatech Records(london)was telling me he was trying to sort out
a deal with Mills to sell that stuff in >the store, and I dont think it
would sell.
There's no chance I'd buy any of it from any shop, I'd be way too
embarrassed.
Cripes, its bad enough picking up my monthly copy of razzle
cc:
Is really Gold ???
http://www.discogs.com/release/284936
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>I got them! : )
woo!
*puts best usa voice on*
wayy to gooo Gaaarry.
so, erm, now you have these, whats the chances of you selling me that
deepspace records 7" you got?
; )
>I would describe them as quite minimal, atmospheric ('spacey') - typical
>Mills style production.
nice.
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Hi,
Was reading this http://ww
My mate Stew got 2 copies of each - I think he shared the wealth though
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:22 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Axis!
Hi,
Was reading this http://www.littledetroit.net/forums
Hi,
Was reading this http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4200
anyone own these 7's?
any good?
only 25 of each! that must mean they're RARE!
I like things that are rare.
_
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not meant to be a diss Matt. It was just someone who obviously doesn't
know atomly dismissing his take on the chicago scene in favor of yours-
probably just because they know you as the 'chicago expert' or something
qually as foolish.
and don't feel bad. atomly parties harder than everyone on this
On Jan 15, 2004, at 5:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt McQueen would know more about it...
No offence to Matt, but I don;t think he really goes out to much in
chicago.
Atomly goes out every night0 so he would probably know better.
ouch ;) Rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated.
T
PG> Regardless, last time he was here in
> NYC, a few months ago, he was amazing and played for almost 5 hours. Too
bad
> there were only about 4-500 people there to enjoy it.
Better those 500 than the 1000 idiots that usually show up...
The vibe and the music were on another level that night.
l.org
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i think we're all better off with Mills not representing the American techno
community.
He had what is probably the largest public forum for techno in America (Hart
Plaza) and his set was mediocre at best.
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTEC
I disagree that he plays the same records every set, if you were at Heaven
in May 03' you would know this is not the case!!!
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Sent: 16 January 2004 9:30
To: 313 Detroit
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I can say that h
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It's hard to imagine Mills being that bad. I would say don't give up, give
him another chance if you get the opportunity.
If you catch him on the right night he'll bl
]'
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It's hard to imagine Mills being that bad. I would say don't give up,
give
him another chance if you get the opportunity.
If you catch him on the right night he'll blow you away with his mixing.
I've experienced myself at both Lost & Sonar.
Yo
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hahahahaha
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embarrassed for him for crashing mixes and distroting the system
ccasionally vented when the issue comes up.
>
> peace,
> p
>
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:53 PM
>
>
> Jesus, I don't know.
the most sage-like thing said this week.
>
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>
>
> having been disappointed (borderline embarrased) the last 3 times I've
> seen mills- i don't think you could pay me to lea
>
> Matt McQueen would know more about it...
>
No offence to Matt, but I don;t think he really goes out to much in
chicago.
Atomly goes out every night0 so he would probably know better.
>
my earlier post was in haste because unlike mr mills i'm not rich so i had a
job interview...maybe someday as many people will buy some music from me :)
> I think the opinions in this thread have been reflecting those various
philosophies of the dance community and are all worthy of consideration.
As commendable as you may find that, I don't think Berlin has any problems
with its community as far as techno support goes. I was speaking of
Detroit when I wrote community.
Peace,
Alex
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-Original Message-
Didn't Mills avoid the U.K for years due to visa problems?
The interest rate they charge is disgusting...
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tom wrote:
"but thats a pretty decent sized market to basically
neglect despite its relative proximity to places he has lived.
instead he'll play lost again, or whatever hip techno club there
is in germany again. its kind of annoying, really. "
He'll play wherever he's booked to play, which as ha
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From: "Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>"yeah giving up must be the thing to do. not."
>
>I never said that!!
i know you didnt, but it certainly seems like thats what mr mills
is saying by not playing here.
tom
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From: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>When Mills spoke at Musik und Maschine this summer, the sense I
got was
>that he felt he was playing TOO much. In that situation, he's
probably
>attempting to maximize his profits per gig
"yeah giving up must be the thing to do. not."
I never said that!!
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From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2004 4:52
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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From: "Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>...but if Mills has been in the ascendancy for 10-15 years,
perhaps it would
>have already happened by now, if it was going to at all?
yeah giving up must be the thing to do
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
that actually makes no business sense at all. making more sense
would be dividing your time so that you make your existing
customers happy but also making inroads to getting new fans by
playing places where you might not sell as many records. i have no
qualms with mr
...but if Mills has been in the ascendancy for 10-15 years, perhaps it would
have already happened by now, if it was going to at all?
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
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>but, if jeff mills spends the majority of his time in europe
playing
>shows and throwing festivals it's because that's who gives him
the most
>support...when americans
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> - Original Message -
>
> > >But what if he and others in his position could take it further
> > than that!
> >
> > >
Thank you pleidy, for understanding and expanding on my point.
Peace,
Alex
> - Original Message -
>
> > >But what if he and others in his position could take it further
> > than that!
> >
> > >Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall),
> > seminars,>clubs (gasp!), a
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> >But what if he and others in his position could take it further
> than that!
>
> >Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall),
> seminars,>clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the
> game.
>
> Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It'
is ONLY my opinion, that Mills is
> seemingly getting a battering for no other reason than the fact that it's
> "Jeff Mills."
>
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seemingly getting a battering for no other reason than the fact that it's
"Jeff Mills."
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>But what if he
>But what if he and others in his position could take it further than that!
>Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall), seminars,
>clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the game.
Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It's called Musik und Machine.
http://www.musi
;t think many people hate Mills over this, but it
is a sensitive issue for locals and frustrations are occasionally vented when
the issue comes up.
peace,
p
>
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]>To: 313 list
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cc:
I ordered See/The/Light from the Axis website and it came to slightly over
20 quid, including postage. Seems pretty reasonable to me. If a shop is
over-charging, don't use it...
Sean.
: Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2004 17:37
To: atomly; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) axis
My view is no one is making you buy it, so don't.
I've no idea what Jeff's running costs are or what he needs to make back to
break even but we went thru this with Peacefrog...
Oh and warps bleep is
Tom said>
>Here's a hypotherical question - would you have bought the Kai Alce record
>if it had been released on a label other than Mahogani?
>What if it was an import from Europe on a label you'd never heard of, with
no association to
>KDJ whatsoever?
Right, I gotta hold my hands up here.
I'd s
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How do you explain the rise of #3/4 in the last couple of weeks from the
same shops?
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s possible, but it doesn't seem likely. This is speculative, of course-
as is this whole thread, really.
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Sent: 15 January 2004 9:58
To: 313
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no idea, ask them
rise or lower?
with rise
Remember also that some small distributors actually buy from the larger ones
rather than the label directly, which can add another 10-20% to the final
sale price...
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How do you explain the rise of £3/4 in the last couple of weeks from the
same shops?
-Origin
obert, Gwendal ; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:42 AM
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>From LD:
Ryan:
>From the Axis Shop it was about £5 or £6 a piece.
>From UK shops 2 weeks ago, about £8-9.
Now, mysteriously, the same vendors are knocking them out for the above
mentioned pr
How do you explain the rise of £3/4 in the last couple of weeks from the
same shops?
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Sent: 15 January 2004 9:54
To: 313
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this is not completely true
as to the shops, they are offered
e.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 15 January 2004 9:43
> To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) axis
>
>
>> From LD:
>
> Ryan:
>> From the Axis Shop it was about £5 or £6 a piece.
>>
>
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>From LD:
Ryan:
>From the Axis Shop it was about £5 or £6 a piece.
>From UK shops 2 weeks ago, about £8-9.
Now, mysteriously, the s
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>
>> Us Yanks better take advantage of Warp's 7-quid-per-album MP3 deal now;
>
> just to let you all know if you're interested, theres
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>
>> Us Yanks better take advantage of Warp's 7-quid-per-album MP3 deal now;
>
> just to let you all know if you're interested, theres a warp back catalog
Embarassed about what?
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having been disappointed (borderline embarrased) the last 3 times I've
seen mil
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> I agree - all those Jeff Mills records I and thousands of other people
> own and enjoy in our living rooms - not to mention all of us who use
> his records to make other p
very well...
i've sent you some of my work as well i believe...
15, 2004 1:14 AM
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> > "o...now i see...b*tched lover.!
> >
> >
> > yeah baby...let that envy shine through...huh...yeah, now rub a lil
o
> > that ignorance in thereyup...
> > now you beautiful"
>
> "o...now i see...b*tched lover.!
>
>
> yeah baby...let that envy shine through...huh...yeah, now rub a lil o
> that ignorance in thereyup...
> now you beautiful"
>
> ---
> look familiar? why demean someone for expressing their opinion
>
> the end,
> _j
where in there i
> um.
>
>
> done that.
good...
good job mate...
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> > for. if you cant understand that, maybe sit back and try ot open your
> mind
> > and at least see thing
> I know lots of people I'd go off on in
> person given the chance :)
better that, than on this list where he probably is not...cowardice...i've
seen this played out many times...
like i said...the issue of the fair pricing is valid...talk about his
character is reaching...
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>
> the man lives in chicago and people dont see him there doing what he's
love
> for. if you cant understand that, maybe sit back and try ot ope
these
people wouldnt say it to his face? I know lots of people I'd go off on in
person given the chance :)
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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:51 PM
Subjec
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Do you know when the last time Jeff Mills was hired to play in Chicago? Or
> the last time he was offered to play there?
>
Anyone who wants to book Jeff Mills has to get through his manager.
Easier said than done. Frederic has told me flat out that
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:17 PM
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>
>
> > why dont you calm down and let people speak their opinion without
> attacking
> > them.
> > - Original Message -
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why don't people attack jeff when they meet him in person instead of kiss
a**
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> why don
why dont you calm down and let people speak their opinion without attacking
them.
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> From: "atomly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> he might
> have to save your life one day...
>
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.
ouch
>
>
> wake up!
>
>
alex,
on this point...
>There are thousands of producers out there trying to make a difference at
this stage.
i would stand shoulder to shoulder with you and wage battle against nearly
all of them (you know who i mean)
but...i feel the price is a different point...
|
|b)
From: "atomly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Jeff Mills hasn't played in Chicago since 1993? despite living here for
> years.
> I think artists/musicians/whatever have a responsibility to their
> community beyond just releasing records-- art is not created inside some
> sort of a vacuum.
hold up hold up.
consumer. Hmm, I wonder if it sounds better to your ears the more
expensive a record is..
Peace,
Alex
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[kj at technotourist dot org <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Yes this is a state
>"atomly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>as long as that choice is not to
> call me "junior."
wow...next time i'll issue a warning before i utter a colloquialism ... on
this point and this one...
>and gives nothing back
pull your head out and take a look at your planet...now tell me...would you
rather w
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