i found www.agnitum.com and the little thing called outpost. seems much better than zone alarm. also why do u use startup editor? you can just go under run and put in msconfig and do it yourself? no need for another program.
i actually was checking around and found this "loadqm.exe"? seems like some kind of program that keeps connecting to the ms site or something? my comp will be sitting still and i will notice that it starts working out of nowhere so i alt/ctl/delete and there it was? seems something to do with msn im or windows update or something. ms are some sneaky bastards! worse than spyware. it is private control ware. i am still unsure what qtmtask is? in any case i also went to infopackets.com and went back down to the player 6.4. though i wish someone out there knew how to get rid of this spy update? when you go to the windows update part of the site and check what is installed on your comp, it seems that with this so called security update install, along with many other recent ones, they all are incapable of being uninstalled in any way. check for yourself. especially under the recent critical updates under "Read first"? looks like some kind of reporting on what you are listening to and what you are watching on media player, along with trying to have something that automatically updates all ms updates. i know someone may know of some discussion room where this may be discussed if you are sick of it here and are unsure. and for the mac users who are probably saying, "get a mac and shut up." peace d ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Longton (Merch)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chris Dooley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: RE: [313] please help He means the part of MS's website called "windows update". -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:11 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] please help sorry about the one liner, but windows update? do you mean moving os to xp? or from the ms site, which i am now afraid of? not sure what u mean here, sorry. d >>> "::)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/29/02 04:00PM >>> windows update will allow you to remove any patch installed on your system from microsoft. -Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Dooley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:52 PM Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i installed the new media player along with explorer 6 a month or so ago for the computer that runs 98se, that i use for internet, downloads, and various odd jobs. do u know how one might do that similiar function in 98se? also would uninstalling media player work and then just stripping it's program folder of all its contents? or does it hide this somewhere lse in the registry or in the windows folder? i have spoke with many people and noone has a clue. d >>> "Darren Longton (Merch)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/29/02 03:26PM >>> You already did that on 98se? cause 98 does have a similar function...just not as easy to use. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:29 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i understand that for xp, but how about 98se? i did that on my 98se computer? d >>> "Darren Longton (Merch)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/29/02 03:16PM >>> If you have XP you can roll back to a previous state via "system restore"....probably the best option on that beast. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] please help http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]