Nick wrote:
I don't wanna discuss the politics that's all. Ppl get
hurt, we all know about it, it's gonna be a touchy
area until ppl stop pointing out the differences and
start pointing out the similarities. We're all the
same, you know that... It's why Muslims and Jews are
at each others throa
> the idea is that techno has difficulty gathering a
> large listening audience because it defies strict
> boundaries and racial identities (i.e. it contains
> both "black" and "white" elements.)
Yeah, I like that... a sound with no race connected. I
mean a black guy invented techno as we know
ainst Moonshine, Ultra, OM,
Kinetic, etc. they are counting overall sales. It was
embarrasing/exhasperating to read the article. Typical of the big press
though, US or UK.
Fred
From: christos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] who stole the soul?
Date: Mon, 2 Oc
I think therein lies much of the appeal of Detroit techno... particularly
the classic stuff, is that the ambience of the music itself has the ability
to grab certain people. I'm all for the bangin' stuff myself, but it's the
ambience and soul in place of the "bang" that I like about D-techno so mu
> I don't like this. I'm a whitey. Half of my family is
> black but I'm 100% white and my parents are too. My
> mum used to listen to lots of black music and my dad
> used to be the only white guy who could get into black
> clubs when he was a youngster cuz he could kick all
> their asses (Wing so
> One of the reasons why I am so into the music here though is its great
> diversity. Just look at labels like Transmat, Planet E, Underground
> Resistance, Axis, Pure Sonik, Minus, Red Planet, Direct Beat, 430 West,
> Purpose Maker etc. There are a good 4 or 5 differnt styles of Electronic
> Mus
> I find this philosophy that "every generation has it's idols" disturbing.
> People are not computers where you download a certain operation system every
> other year (=musical "trends"), and once you've passed your youth you're
> stuck with the music you listened to. Of course not. Music is cu
--- Nathan John de Yonker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
So basically summing up your reply to Mike, all you
> have to add to this
> thread is belittling Mike's long, thoughtful
> message. Even though Mike is
> offering a great deal of generalizations and
> minimizations, what he is
> saying is a pe
So basically summing up your reply to Mike, all you have to add to this
thread is belittling Mike's long, thoughtful message. Even though Mike is
offering a great deal of generalizations and minimizations, what he is
saying is a personal opinion. People seem to think you can cover all of
the bases
Hey Ken,
a. it was a joke, I happen to be a blue-eyed devil myself.
b. that message was sent offlist, it is rude to post private mail.
Sorry, I didn't notice that and thought I hit "reply" instead of "reply to
all" so I worte 313 in. My bad.
c. Race does have a lot to do with it. White f
You're suggesting that people actually "grow" INTO a sound, be it Punk, Detroit
techno or whatever.
No. I am suggesting that as i grew up..I was familiar with a certain sound.
The sound I enjoyed most at the time.
I don't agree with you that one has to be "introduced" to a certain sound or
I don't like this. I'm a whitey. Half of my family is
black but I'm 100% white and my parents are too. My
mum used to listen to lots of black music and my dad
used to be the only white guy who could get into black
clubs when he was a youngster cuz he could kick all
their asses (Wing something wadda
The 21+ could have reduced the crowd, also Derrick May played in Lansing and
Windsor too.
respose to other responses:
Getting layed is important if your white or black. Listening to good music is
important if your white or black. Race is not the issue it is priorities and
the ability to te
Really good, thoughtful, if at times depressing thread.
From: "jim proffit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] who stole the soul?
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 07:53:44 GMT
mike d wrote:
Back in my high school days I was a punk rocker.digging all the
mike d wrote:
Back in my high school days I was a punk rocker.digging all the >raw
and unheard soundz that these bands were showing us. After >time...the
"mainstream" caught a hold of it...and the end was near. >No more respect
for Green Day and Rancid. Nofx was no longer a true >punk b
MT
I completely understand your views on the whole detroit techno scene, and
the way you feel it has significantly gotten worse over the years.
However..I am brand new to this scene...im 23 and i dont live in detroit...im
on the east coast. Back in my high school days I was a punk
rocker..
Hey Ken,
a. it was a joke, I happen to be a blue-eyed devil myself.
b. that message was sent offlist, it is rude to post private mail.
c. Race does have a lot to do with it. White folks who were raised on
pop music do not want to hear soulful dance music because it is too much
of a stretch from
No I think racist epithets are inappropriate. And I don't think it has
anything to do with race. The question was: why has Detroit turned a deaf
ear to its best homeboys again and again. (DEMF excluded).
I think a better subject header for this post would be why to these
cracker ass honkies i
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