OT !
http://www.pgeb.com/wtc/
A local NYC architect came up with this design and since there's a strong
correlation between techno and architecture I thought I'd post it. The plan
is to have it as a temporary memorial for the WTC until something new is
built. It would take less than one month to
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Some insight and info:
FWD>>>>>
I find this extremely important. Out of this horror, the American
people need to learn many things. But they still have such a sm
Some insight and info:
FWD>
I find this extremely important. Out of this horror, the American
people need to learn many things. But they still have such a small
world view, they understand so little about what happened. Most of the
country really believes Bush that we were attacked because th
terrible thing to happen anywhere in the world.
...but please put this incident in correct proportion. How many of you
lost your night sleep when the civil war in Ruanda killed over 1 million
people? How many of you plead for donations when an earthquake in Turkey killed
over 4 people? Did you
this is a message from new york- please, please continue to donate blood
and/or money to the red cross. you cannot imagine what it is like here. and
everyone MUST keep in mind that a military retaliation that involves more
killing is so disgustingly wrong. i walked home from work on tuesday, and i
just another bit of info:
the city of York is now Toronto.
_New_ York is what was attacked. ... . .
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asking for donors to give later
because this is going to be a lng process.
MEK
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Subject: Re: [313] WTC - Nostrodamas prediction
Date: 13 Sep 2001 05:25:16 -0700
I agree with Hans.
> There is no way i could understand someone would believe that
> Nostradamus predicted this. He wrote so generic things that they would
> fit in whatever situation possible. Remember in the 80's, people were
> telling that Nostradamus predicted heavy-rock? yeah, sure..
nostradamus predicted parts
> the third big war will begin
> when the big city is burning."
A really bad one too -- most of those Nostradamus hoaxes at least get the
Medieval syntax/word-choice correct...
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dammit...the quote is a hoax...
josh23
--- Stewart Caig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thought some of you might be interested in reading
> this prediction from Nostrodamus.Pretty freaky!
>
> "In the city of York there will be a great collapse,
>
> two twin brothers,
> tornapart by chaos.
>
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| i think what i find even MORE interesting is that people are attributing
| this quote to nostradamus in 1654. nostradamus died in 1566. i
yes, but im not sure that nostradamus know what new york is, and i beleive
that prophecy was pointing at city on 41 parallel, and that the flame will
destroy builldings, but you can take that as serious as you want,
i wouldnt be sure that thrid WW will begin or something like that.
not to talk ab
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what's really freaky is this album that was supposed to drop Sep 4:
http://www.geocities.com/dango727/the_coup4.jpg
The label pulled it from their site
what's really freaky is this album that was supposed to drop Sep 4:
http://www.geocities.com/dango727/the_coup4.jpg
The label pulled it from their site ... I had to dig to find the cover.
-d
At 8:39 AM -0400 9/13/01, sound wrote:
exactly. the whole reason that canadian student wrote that pas
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: Thursday, September 13, 2001 7:59 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] WTC - Nostrodamas prediction
Thought some of you might be interested in reading this prediction from
Nostrodamus.Pretty freaky! "In the city of York there will be a great
collapse, two twin brothers, tornapart by ch
exactly. the whole reason that canadian student wrote that passage was to
show that vague random phrases could be construed as whatever people want to
have it mean in their heads. in fact, there's some nostrodamas writing that
also being passed around now saying that it predicted thisthis same
I agree with Hans. Nost's predisctions are so damn vague that this could be
talking about anything. I really doubt that his original writing said the word
"York". I'm sure that that is someone interpretation. And, finally, I'm sure
that no 2 interpretations are the same, so people are basica
Hans Veneman wrote on Thu, 13 Sep 2001 about following:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 12:59:05PM +0100, Stewart Caig wrote:
> > Thought some of you might be interested in reading this prediction
> > from Nostrodamus.Pretty freaky!
>
> What i find freaky is that so many people are willing to believ
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 12:59:05PM +0100, Stewart Caig wrote:
> Thought some of you might be interested in reading this prediction from
> Nostrodamus.Pretty freaky!
What i find freaky is that so many people are willing to believe that this text
was written in the middle ages, while it was wri
Thought some of you might be interested in reading this prediction from
Nostrodamus.Pretty freaky!
"In the city of York there will be a great collapse,
two twin brothers,
tornapart by chaos.
While the fortress falls,
the great leader will succumb,
the third big war will begin when the bi
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Samuel Hobbs wrote:
> >I'm really frightened at this point in time. The
> >president has
> >announced
> >his intent to retaliate (but without detail),
> >according to sources at
> >slashdot.org and various news pages, the military is
> >on the highest
> >alert
> >(threatcon d
>I'm really frightened at this point in time. The
>president has
>announced
>his intent to retaliate (but without detail),
>according to sources at
>slashdot.org and various news pages, the military is
>on the highest
>alert
>(threatcon delta). I really hope that this is not
>the only solutio
>I'm really frightened at this point in time. The
>president has
>announced
>his intent to retaliate (but without detail),
>according to sources at
>slashdot.org and various news pages, the military is
>on the highest
>alert
>(threatcon delta). I really hope that this is not
>the only solution
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> Not to seem cold hearted, but can we keep this off the list. This has
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They need blood in Toronto too in order to help the victims. Manulife
Centre is taking appointments now--you need to call
itals to give blood (a good sign obviously) - so media are encouraging
> calling to schedule a time.
>
> Dennis
>
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Very true, but there are very bad traffic jams in Chicago around the
hospitals to give blood (a good sign obviously) - so media are encouraging
calling to schedule a time.
Dennis
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noon.
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> Please, PLEASE do the following:
>
> - find your local Red Cross office to find out ab
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Dear list,
It was. hypocrisy, working in the office of a daily newspaper
here
in Belgium, drowning in the WTC news; over
Please, PLEASE do the following:
- find your local Red Cross office to find out about giving blood. This is
perhaps the most important thing that civilians can do right now.
- love other people.
Take care,
Dennis
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To our brothers and sisters across the country:
Subjects Detroit sends its prayers to all friends and families who have
suffered losses during this tragedy.
The World:
Dj Bone is safe at home in Detroit.
Thank you for your calls, faxes and e-mails for his concern.
We are sad, angry and devis
there will be a candlelight vigil in ann arbor in the diag at 9pm for
those in the area.
please pass this information on to those who might be interested in
participation.
thank you
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right on.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, John Bush wrote:
> Another point: there's a very large Arab population around the
> Detroit/Dearborn area, so I just want to say, my heart goes out to you in
> the community as well.
>
> If *anyone* in *any* way persecutes you, please know that there's a large
> c
It's all too horrible and too powerful to take in right now. There's already
too many recriminations flying around. Concentrate on supporting those in
immediate need. Thoughts of hope and relief for the survivors, deepest
condolences to all those effected and their friends and families.
-
Another point: there's a very large Arab population around the
Detroit/Dearborn area, so I just want to say, my heart goes out to you in
the community as well.
If *anyone* in *any* way persecutes you, please know that there's a large
community of Americans who'd decry any attempt to link a *suppos
> reread my message. where did i say that we shouldn't think about it?
this would make sense if i had posted to you privately.
i thought your message was very sensible and i totally agree with you, but
it did not suggest anything to do with why these attacks happened.
maybe you need to reread yo
l sorts of political motivations, but a sick sense of
irony.
saddened
geoff
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:11:17 -0400
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> I'm sending this to a few different lists as a siden
i agreethat we shouldn't be pointing fingers at palestinians yet since we
haveno idea really who did this. just like the world tradecenter bombing
in OKC, people arequickto blame...
my condolences go out to the family and friends of those dead or injured.
please be safe if you are out in the nyc o
On Sat, 24 Dec 1988, Kao Jyan wrote:
> it seems to me that all those people have died in vain if we do not think
> about why they died.
> and i hope no-one else will be chastised for discussing something other than
> this tragedy on this list.
> kaojyan
reread my message. where did i say that we
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> Not to carry this too far forward, but here are a couple of interesting
> things:
Not to carry this too far forward, but here are a couple of interesting
things:
1. The group(s) responsible were successful in launching a VERY coordinated
effort. Not only was it in great collusion, but the 'weapons' used were the
very instruments of our own capitalist machine. Not many big bo
it seems to me that all those people have died in vain if we do not think
about why they died.
and i hope no-one else will be chastised for discussing something other than
this tragedy on this list.
kaojyan
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Dear list,
It was. hypocrisy, working in the office of a daily newspaper here
in Belgium, drowning in the WTC news; over and over again; repeating the
first and than the second crash, then the first fire, the second, the
opinions, the president speech, the death rate My god, it sh
Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote:
> In the wake of this tragedy, I've already seen implicit and explicit
> newscoverage blaming Palestine, and Palestinians for the tragic event.
> NBC cameras have gone to the West Bank showing cheering children. Brokaw
> has called this "a declaration of war."
Not
I'm sending this to a few different lists as a sidenote...
In the wake of this tragedy, I've already seen implicit and explicit
newscoverage blaming Palestine, and Palestinians for the tragic event.
NBC cameras have gone to the West Bank showing cheering children. Brokaw
has called this "a declar
I personally think that this is just the beginning, i
think that at this point many more people are going to
die...probably by our doing...because we may
ultimately never figure out who did this, but we'll
find someone to blame, and we'll kill as many of them
as we can...
josh23
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I'd just like to say that when resbonsibility for this attack is determined,
and I know there is a lot of speculation, I hope everyone is intelligent and
mature enough to blame the GROUP responsible and not the
country/nationality.
I don't expect it on this forum, but on other message boards t
that plane never even left the ground from cleveland, it was evacuated
i understand you're trying to caution people but i should say that during
this hectic time they'll be tons of reports that are unconfirmed.
> we have one suspected plane on the ground possibly with a bomb in
cleveland.
> Ano
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> you guys all make me sick! how can you be publicly whining about how
> inconvenienced your lives are after scores of people have just lost their
> lives?! how disgustingly selfish! I'm appalled tha
you are all onl discussing what happened (definately a very sad
thing)for me as a european it would also be interesting to read what you
think bush will be doing...how will he answer the attacksthe image i got
of him is a lil boy with to huge guns
what do you think...i hope he wont star
Sean Deason wrote:
> but lets try to think of those less fortunate right now. please.
>
Amen. This is a very sad day for humanity. I'm sad and I'm disgusted. Prayers to
all of those affected, which is all of us really...
Sean.
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me too from France.
I seeing the news on CNN, It's horrible.
I don't believe my eyes.
Thomas Van Steen.
www.pulsation.com
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we have one suspected plane on the ground possibly with a bomb in cleveland.
Another hijaked plane was diversted from cleveland, and at last update had
just passed toledo. It *could be on its way to detroit or chicago.
Also a van in east cleveland with blacked out windows surrounded by abo
support for all of new yorkers from europe nad croatia.
b.
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> Hoping all of you from NY are ok!!
>
> Rgds,
>
> Dav
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I just heard, a unconfirmed report that there was a 727 crash in
Pennsylvania as well. The CN tower in Toronto has been closed as well, all
US flights have be
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Honestly, it's times like this that I'm really glad I'm Canadian, and that
I
live in Canada (and I'm sure the other canucks on the list agree with me).
Yes, the U.S. is the most powerful country in the world, but that
also makes it a huge targe
etroit)...the border has been shut down and I would have been stuck
there!
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Seems I'm stuck here at the office for a while as everything in NYC is shut
down. For those of you outside the area, I can tell you that it's pretty
crazy here in NYC. I'm guessing that Richie
Hoping all of you from NY are ok!!
Rgds,
David
hkrave.com
Hong Kong
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> I just watched the second world trade center collapse
> moments ago.
>
> I was supposed to go in tonight to see Matthew
> Herbert play and well...celebrate my birthday
om the WTC when the first tower blew up.
Horrid!
-p
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Seems I'm stuck here at the office for a while as everything in NYC is shu
I just watched the second world trade center collapse
moments ago.
I was supposed to go in tonight to see Matthew
Herbert play and well...celebrate my birthday. Maybe
my family and i can make some techno in the kitchen
for something to the same effect.
I hope all the nyc and washington DC 313'
Seems I'm stuck here at the office for a while as everything in NYC is shut
down. For those of you outside the area, I can tell you that it's pretty crazy
here in NYC. I'm guessing that Richie will not play tonight at Centro-Fly. Was
anyone on the list planning to go?
-dave (wondering how I wil
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