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Date: Friday, December 8, 2000 11:35:22 AM
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I agree. Our music isn't "black" enough. It's too fast, there's no rappin,
mackin and pimpin in it, it's not "urban" enough. House is too "gay". I
have stopped worrying about it. If I was waiting to get paid from negroes,
I'd be living under the overpass on I-75 and Mack. Or living in a refrigerator
box like my man Jean-Michel Basquiat. Cats like Shake had a complex about
no blacks buying our music (he is now over it) and me and Cornelius have
had a running debate about it. It has to become ghettotech (or OutKast's
"Bombs Over Bagdad") for black folks to be even remotely interested. No
thanks.

Sure you can go see Detroit acts in Detroit, right at Motor. You had Larkin
& Pullen two Saturdays in a row. Temple, also on Thursdays. Or you can
go to the next DEMF *gag*.

a.

In a message dated 12/8/00 12:17:21 PM, Glyph1001 writes:

<< That's what I'm saying...I'm with him all the way on this...what about you?

G.

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Subj:    [313] "Stupid Question"
Date:   Friday, December 8, 2000 7:34:37 AM
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In a message dated 12/8/00 7:34:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Hello All:
>
>
>I am a native Detroiter. I love all the 313 artists that we talk about
>on 
>this list.
>
>I am sad, jealous, and frustrated that everywhere else in the world gets
>to 
>attend parties Djed' by these marvelous artists except those of us actually
>
>in the 313!!!!
>
>I know that it's about radio, and major label support here in the US, for
>
>artists to succeed. But I refuse to accept the way things are now for what
>
>they will be from now on????
>
>
>I love all kinds of music; Afrobeat, house, R&B, rock, jazz, P-Funk and
>a 
>little reggae.
>But why can't I go out right here in Detroit and see Moodymann???
>
>The DEMF was an anomaly, and unfortunately I wasn't here for that but I
>did 
>download lots of the archived webcasts (big-ups to Groovetech).
>
>But I know in the beginning Techno was something that lots of Black kids
>
>enjoyed at places like the Music Insititute. I never went but I got into
>
>house a few years later (Ken Collier).
>
>Now when I go see Derrick May at Motor it's mostly white kids with 
>glowsticks. Now  that's cool but I don't like the way it seems this music
>is 
>marketed as being "white" and I know that has a lot to do with the bullshit
>
>at places like Vibe magazine. Then the Black kids think that techno is
>it 
>"Black enough" like house??? I mean I understand if you just prefer house
>but 
>it seems that lots of people are not even open to techno. It's like a lot
>of 
>people black out on the fact that Ron Trent's biggest record "Altered States"
>
>was actually rooted in Detroit Techno??? See Juan Atkins' interview in
>URB 
>millenium future issue. 
>
>I just find the way things are to be kind of strange. It's just music made
>
>you to heal your body when you move??? and yet having a good party here
>is 
>like finding a needle in a haystack. I went to Queens on Decks last night
>at 
>the State Theater. The women played well, although I missed Dj Genesis.
>But 
>no one was there!!!! 
>
>But I also notice that with some not all white crowds, Derrick and others
>
>turn into a spectacle; i.e. there is more watching th edj by the sidelines
>
>rather than dancing.
>
>This music is for everyone and maybe if these media outlets weren't so
>full 
>of it, we could all be at these parties together, like right here in Detroit.
>
>I'm really sad about the way it is in Detroit right now, but I will keep
>
>buying the records and going to the events.
>
>anybody have any thoughts they wanna share on this???
>
>
>Peace,
>Five
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