Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
> sorry, that's ridiculous tunnel-vision and an over-emphasis on genre > names without looking deeper. of course techno has evolved. it evolved > into jungle, it evolved into dubstep, it evolved into loads of things. > anytime anything "evolves" it's given a new genre name. it is a total > contrad

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread JT Stewart
> I also see a rhythm pattern not to far away from Electro and Hip-Hop > and that's not due to the major usage of 808 drums. that's easy to see, yes. > Every genre style has certain characterics and IMO Dubstep has > variations just as Detroit Techno does. I'm talking about that Detroit the vari

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 10/10/07, klaus boss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It directly evolved from Grime and 4 X 4 ( 4 by 4). > The Planet Mu take on Dubstep has some industrial overtones yes > (Vex'd, Pinch etc.), > but are you familiar with DMZ, Tempa and other "warmer" outlets? i was buying tempa records in '00. i

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread klaus boss
Musto & Bones > > > > > > On 10/10/07, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > dubstep is the stupidest genre name yet. and thats saying a lot, when > > > speaking within the context of electronic music. > > > > > > > > > - Origi

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread JT Stewart
> > > To: "Guilherme Menegon Arantes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Org" <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:06 PM > > Subject: Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/te

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread kent williams
Back in the early 90s when Chris Farley was alive and doing hilarious work on Saturday Night Live, some of my Seattle friends were making what they claimed was Farley House. Not, in their minds, anything to do with the other Farley from Chicago. Farley house involved fat analog bass, huge hard kic

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Org" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:06 PM > Subject: Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno > > > He's mentioning dubstep but his reference to sinister, late 90's D'n'B > is way,

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread Martin Dust
Some of these guys must cite the german dub techno as influences. You would have thought so but you'll find it's not the case, I couldn't believe Loefah had never heard of Scorn but that's pretty much the case. You have to remember that they nearly are all under 21 apart from the odd few.

RE: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread Mann, Ravinder
n, its all good. Some of these guys must cite the german dub techno as influences. Rav -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 October 2007 10:09 To: 313 List Subject: Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno On 10 Oct 2007, at 08:10, Robert Ta

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread Martin Dust
On 10 Oct 2007, at 07:59, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 10/9/07, klaus boss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You're obviously everso entitled to your opinions :) But in what way other than the dubplate exclusives has Dubstep followed D'n'B? it went from a "soulful" sound that referenced jazz, r+b

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread Martin Dust
On 10 Oct 2007, at 08:10, Robert Taylor wrote: It annoys me that Burial is used as the prime representative of dubstep - it's a bit too nice and tame to be proper dubstep, it's more like chillstep! I'd agree with Rob here, I think it's more the fact that he's on Kode 9's label and uses Sp

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread klaus boss
It directly evolved from Grime and 4 X 4 ( 4 by 4). The Planet Mu take on Dubstep has some industrial overtones yes (Vex'd, Pinch etc.), but are you familiar with DMZ, Tempa and other "warmer" outlets? The sound is still as broad as it comes in my opinion. Let me once again point out that I love

RE: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread Robert Taylor
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 October 2007 08:08 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno Goes without saying that that doesn't represent total US sales (just thought I'd mention it anyway for the record!) -Original Message- From: nuf si [mail

RE: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-10 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Goes without saying that that doesn't represent total US sales (just thought I'd mention it anyway for the record!) -Original Message- From: nuf si [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 October 2007 04:54 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno "Even Buri

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 10/9/07, klaus boss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're obviously everso entitled to your opinions :) > But in what way other than the dubplate exclusives has Dubstep followed D'n'B? it went from a "soulful" sound that referenced jazz, r+b, hiphop, reggae, etc to a cold technical sound. it seri

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 10/9/07, nuf si <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Even Burial, whose debut album generated an avalanche of critical approval in > the US, only sold 291 albums there, according to the sales metrics aggregator > Nielsen SoundScan." > > Wow. id guess that doesnt count people who bought it from online

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-09 Thread /0
I can tell you're wrong without even reading your email :p - Original Message - From: "klaus boss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313 Org" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:46 PM Sub

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-09 Thread klaus boss
hen > speaking within the context of electronic music. > > > - Original Message - > From: "klaus boss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Guilherme Menegon Arantes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "31

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-09 Thread /0
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Org" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno He's mentioning dubstep but his reference to sinister, late 90's D'n'B is way, way off!. That genre has

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-09 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 10/9/07, klaus boss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He's mentioning dubstep but his reference to sinister, late 90's D'n'B > is way, way off!. > That genre has as the only really new style succeded in blending all > kinds of genres to devastating effect. > > Thanks to dubstep for sparkling new life

Re: (313) Re: Interesting piece on house/techno

2007-10-09 Thread klaus boss
He's mentioning dubstep but his reference to sinister, late 90's D'n'B is way, way off!. That genre has as the only really new style succeded in blending all kinds of genres to devastating effect. Thanks to dubstep for sparkling new life into electronic music...:) On 10/10/07, Guilherme Menegon A