I love the White Noise stuff.
Anyone else?
Kw
On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Carlos De Brito wrote:
Delia Derbyshire, way before traktor and four wheels of steel:
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=NDX_CS3NsTk
Interesting little video:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n4cy_richie-hawtin-trakto
Delia Derbyshire, way before traktor and four wheels of steel:
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=NDX_CS3NsTk
> Interesting little video:
>
> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n4cy_richie-hawtin-traktor-setup_music
>
> m
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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:16 PM
To: [313]
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Maybe i'm not being totally clear: they play their songs, in the same
form they were once recorded, with minor changes here and there. They
don't re-arrange
well it's funny because the longer i've been using ableton, the less i do,
but i actually think it's better that way. i got my evolution controller
stolen and i don't even think that's a problem, just forces me to show a
little dexterity on the laptop from time to time and prove i'm not just
checki
beat me to it Kent
Rav
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From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 September 2008 22:19
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Can we invoke Godwin's Law now and declare this thread finished? ;-)
> Martin Dust <
end of.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
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From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 September 2008 22:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 'Tec
Kraftwerk have played in Kingston?!?
Pow.
[Perhaps you mean Kingston-upon-Hull Martin]
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From: Kowalsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:16 PM
To: [313]
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Maybe i'm not being tot
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
And saying Surgeon proves the point, his art is in the programming
not the way he mixes or what he uses - he twiddles very little.
yeap. save for the fact that now he can play stuff that was
probably previously impossible to match, he's really
i rest my case.
On Sep 8, 2008, at 6:19 PM, kent williams wrote:
Can we invoke Godwin's Law now and declare this thread finished? ;-)
Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/08/2008 03:59:46 PM:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'Technolgystolemyvinyl'
OK, lets tip the balance...
Hitler is
It's from Downfall, a movie about the last days of Hittler in the
bunker, and some related events.
On Sep 8, 2008, at 6:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"Now I'm going to have to listen to techno all night at home."
LOL
MEK
P.S. - what movie is this clip originally from? I've just seen so
Can we invoke Godwin's Law now and declare this thread finished? ;-)
> Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/08/2008 03:59:46 PM:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > 'Technolgystolemyvinyl'
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> OK, lets tip the balance...
>>
>> Hitler is a M_nus fan!
>> http://www.youtube.com/wa
"Now I'm going to have to listen to techno all night at home."
LOL
MEK
P.S. - what movie is this clip originally from? I've just seen so many
versions of this I wouldn't mind seeing the original
Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/08/2008 03:59:46 PM:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 'T
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'Technolgystolemyvinyl'
OK, lets tip the balance...
Hitler is a M_nus fan!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNY85iAw4b4
m
'Technolgystolemyvinyl'
On Tue, September 9, 2008 3:52 am, Martin Dust wrote:
>> And saying Surgeon proves the point, his art is in the programming not
>> the way he mixes or what he uses - he twiddles very little.
>>
>> yeap. save for the fact that now he can play stuff that was probably
And saying Surgeon proves the point, his art is in the programming not
the way he mixes or what he uses - he twiddles very little.
yeap. save for the fact that now he can play stuff that was probably
previously impossible to match, he's really just playing tracks. his
art is definitely the p
On Sep 8, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
I don't see why "who is using this exciting new technology in an
interesting way", "who's getting the most out of this gear" is
being viewed as something other than a positive topic and twisted
into something else. I thought the Surgeon answer
I see 2 many djs the same way i see girl talk. The worst thing is that
they go to a more demagogic arena thrill. They emulate a rock show by
cutting off the boring parts or the non-top charting tunes and filling
the spaces with all the climax moments an arena rock show would have.
On Sep 8,
Ronny Pries wrote:
me :)
Another one, but he also uses boxes has to be the fantastic Neil Landtrumm.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/music/connect/2008/artist/neil_landstrumm/?video003#video
m
me :)
My question was: who does the loop frenzy twisting knobs-o-rama good?
That's a good analogy! I was never very into his sound, but he works
in the same way of operations, looping beats and pieces, but he seems
to achieve better results, be it in the matter of moods or ambiences.
On Sep 8, 2008, at 4:32 PM, Wojtek wrote:
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Kowalsky
Kowalsky wrote:
Well, hawtin seems to do what's possible. But i didn't like, as i said
previously. Sandrinho, a brazilian DJ/producer, does it quite well.
And he uses a MPC on top of it.
My question was: who does the loop frenzy twisting knobs-o-rama good?
Kero is one of mine favs, Tim Exile i
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh for goodness sake, if this argument "bores" you why are you trying so hard
to have it?
Get out of the wrong side of the bed did we?
I don't see why "who is using this exciting new technology in an interesting way",
"who's getting the most out of this gear" is
alsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:24 PM
To: [313]
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Saw him playing in my city last wednesday. His set was pretty
tasteless, flavourless. My impression was just like that: a bunch of
loops scrambled over and ov
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, hawtin seems to do what's possible. But i didn't like, as i said
> previously. Sandrinho, a brazilian DJ/producer, does it quite well. And he
> uses a MPC on top of it.
> My question was: who does the loop frenzy twisting
BMG / Ectomorph.
His "DJ" sets are more like on the fly mashups of Prince, Dan Bell,
Carl Craig, P Funk, Laid Back, Kraftwerk and B-52s.
2 Many DJs wish they could hold a torch to what he does with Live
with their sets.. but thankfully, everything's already sync'ed
within Live.
as for
Well, hawtin seems to do what's possible. But i didn't like, as i said
previously. Sandrinho, a brazilian DJ/producer, does it quite well.
And he uses a MPC on top of it.
My question was: who does the loop frenzy twisting knobs-o-rama good?
On Sep 8, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
Kow
Oh for goodness sake, if this argument "bores" you why are you trying so hard
to have it?
No one said it had to be different to be great. Doing things this way can be
100% fine. "use as little or a much as you need" yes,
agreed. On Kraftwerk I thought they were their last "live" show was the b
Kowalsky wrote:
I agree with you.
But what you're saying now has nothing to do with what i was asking in
first place.
OK, Let me reverse it and as you a question. which DJ do you know who
can do what's possible with 4 decks in Trakor or Ableton?
m
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry to intervene and probably get things totally wrong but I think K's point was not so
much "who's using laptops and controllers"
but "who's doing something different with this gear" in, say, the way
apparently RH says he is in the vid (haven't had time to watch
it,
Sorry to intervene and probably get things totally wrong but I think K's point
was not so much "who's using laptops and controllers"
but "who's doing something different with this gear" in, say, the way
apparently RH says he is in the vid (haven't had time to watch
it, sorry).
I.e. you watch or
On 8 Sep 2008, at 18:15, Kowalsky wrote:
Maybe i'm not being totally clear: they play their songs, in the
same form they were once recorded, with minor changes here and
there. They don't re-arrange the songs in a freeform knob twisting
style. Their shows, in a tour, have a script they foll
Maybe i'm not being totally clear: they play their songs, in the same
form they were once recorded, with minor changes here and there. They
don't re-arrange the songs in a freeform knob twisting style. Their
shows, in a tour, have a script they follow – what means that a show
in paris will
On 8 Sep 2008, at 18:06, Kowalsky wrote:
There's no big difference, except for Kraftwerk, don't you think?
Not really, they've moved with the times just like all the people
listed.
m
There's no big difference, except for Kraftwerk, don't you think?
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
On 8 Sep 2008, at 17:51, Kowalsky wrote:
I know that.
But they're playing their own music, not just spinning loops/djing.
Most of the artist I listed play their own music or app
On 8 Sep 2008, at 17:51, Kowalsky wrote:
I know that.
But they're playing their own music, not just spinning loops/djing.
Most of the artist I listed play their own music or appear live as
well as DJing - what's the difference when you boil it all down really?
m
I know that.
But they're playing their own music, not just spinning loops/djing.
Kw
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
On 8 Sep 2008, at 17:40, Kowalsky wrote:
Do you really think that Kraftwerk fits into this? Why?
Laptops, Controllers, 3 Octave keyboard no different to what
On 8 Sep 2008, at 17:40, Kowalsky wrote:
Do you really think that Kraftwerk fits into this? Why?
Laptops, Controllers, 3 Octave keyboard no different to what most
people use.
m
Do you really think that Kraftwerk fits into this? Why?
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:29 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
On 8 Sep 2008, at 15:42, Garrett McGrath wrote:
On Sep 7, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Kowalsky wrote:
Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich compulsive
knob twister is doing somet
On 8 Sep 2008, at 15:42, Garrett McGrath wrote:
On Sep 7, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Kowalsky wrote:
Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich compulsive
knob twister is doing something creative these days, in this list
opinion?
Surgeon.
Rob Hall, Regis, Kraftwerk, Kero, James Ru
On Sep 7, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Kowalsky wrote:
Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich compulsive
knob twister is doing something creative these days, in this list
opinion?
Surgeon.
just used to it all.
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To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich comp
sets just don't seem to be the series of little trips that they used
to be.
maybe I'm just used to it all.
- Original Message - From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:55 PM
Sub
From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich compulsive
knob twister is doing something c
s into the set, your journey is over.
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To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Saw him playing in my ci
d it could happen soon: perhaps 3 years? - I think there
are few more gigs to come.
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Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:39 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Although i have differen
I think there
are few more gigs to come.
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Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:39 PM
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Subject: RE: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Although i have different midi controllers it's the way i
right rite. I got to see claude do his different world thing and he blew
it up. but thats because he took it up down left right and anywhere
inbetween. so i had much respect for him and what he does. I just cant
stand the boring flatline style of playing music out is all. timecode
records or not.
Bitstream 3x < WANT :) I'm currently juggling with an Axiom61, a
BCF2000 and
an additional 3 oct keyboard by evolution. Not travelfriendly at all...
You can get them for $300 but only from the USA at the moment, there's
none in Europe and everyone that has them on their sites has no stock, I
Yeah, right.
Sure but you have to accept that the video isn't aimed at you/me and as
ever "we" on the list are not everyone if you know what I mean :)
Bitstream 3x < WANT :) I'm currently juggling with an Axiom61, a BCF2000 and
an additional 3 oct keyboard by evolution. Not travelfriendly at a
Ronny Pries wrote:
I think there is a misunderstanding here. The video is great BUT afaik
there are lots of people, including myself, who are using Traktor in
exactly the same way. I guess people who never dared to actually look
at Traktor closely will have a number of "aha" moments when watchi
I think there is a misunderstanding here. The video is great BUT afaik
there are lots of people, including myself, who are using Traktor in
exactly the same way. I guess people who never dared to actually look at
Traktor closely will have a number of "aha" moments when watching that
but then ag
Ronny Pries wrote:
yes, it's definitly not rocket science nor anything special at all.
I don't think anyone said it was Ronny, just interesting.
.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since I'm not familiar with his DJ setup, do you mean to say that
you're following his lead in this respect?
Not at all, what I meant was after watching Claude work 3 decks and 2
CDs I knew how high the bar had been set and knew that I'd never reach
that point, so I w
I have to admit, he comes across as charismatic (and energetic!) in this
clip, so I can see that appeal. It is an interesting explanation and for
folks curious about what he's up to and how he does it, it seems illuminating.
That said, he does have a sometimes overstated approach; he tends to
yes, it's definitly not rocket science nor anything special at all.
interesting, but I couldn't help but think, over and over, "wow, this
has been done for at least 5 years, by people with a lot less of a
reputation for pushing the envelope than you."
Amen! ;)
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:02 AM, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Watching Claude work records, trigger loops, and joke around with
> people around him at same time, will make you want to hang it up
> altogether ;-)
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECT
I don't know why I get so bothered by this. To quote my dear friend Curt
Jackson, "you have all the music the entire world has to offer at your
fingertips, and this is what you play?" Just so boring.
A
On Fri, September 5, 2008 12:06 pm, Martin Dust wrote:
>
> On 5 Sep 2008, at 17:02, kent willia
On 5 Sep 2008, at 17:02, kent williams wrote:
Watching Claude work records, trigger loops, and joke around with
people around him at same time, will make you want to hang it up
altogether ;-)
It pretty much did :)
m
Watching Claude work records, trigger loops, and joke around with
people around him at same time, will make you want to hang it up
altogether ;-)
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 5 Sep 2008, at 16:50, kent williams wrote:
>
>> I've learned a lot about
On 5 Sep 2008, at 16:50, kent williams wrote:
I've learned a lot about DJ'ing from watching DJs play. Especially
watching Terrence Parker -- but of course when I try and do the things
he does it doesn't come out quite so great.
I watched Claude Young for 3hrs and decided to use a laptop :)
interesting, but I couldn't help but think, over and over, "wow, this has
been done for at least 5 years, by people with a lot less of a reputation
for pushing the envelope than you."
oh well, he does his thing and does it well
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From: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECT
I've learned a lot about DJ'ing from watching DJs play. Especially
watching Terrence Parker -- but of course when I try and do the things
he does it doesn't come out quite so great.
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For sure but I love the geekery. We played
On 5 Sep 2008, at 14:37, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Lol! Didn't spot that, but it's true innit! :)
It's like, 'give 'em yer geeh-thar solo buba'!
I'll never really understand the "DJ/Entertain" thing in techno,
mainly because I don't think it has a place.
As ever, Hawtin is great value as a w
but i see what you mean about the drifting.. he's such a geek LOL.
But it gets me thinking that I really need to go out and see Richie to
see it all happening.. the music he is playing against is boring (but
probably for demonstration purposes)
I'm sure I've had plenty of ops to see him in the pas
On 5 Sep 2008, at 14:13, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Whilst admiring how clever he is - and I genuinely think Hawtin
shows a
profound intelligence about how he applies the new opportunities which
these latest technologies offer - I found myself drifting.
I think I can only take so much technological
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
On 5 Sep 2008, at 14:13, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
> Whilst admiring how clever he is - and I genuinely think Hawtin
> shows a
> profound intelligence about how he applies the new opportunities which
> these latest te
more gigs to come.
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Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:39 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Although i have different midi controllers it's the way i'm playing a
Although i have different midi controllers it's the way i'm playing as well and
exactly due to the same reasons.
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Interesting little video:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n4cy_richie-hawtin-traktor-setup_music
m
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