RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-15 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:55 AM > À : 313@hyperreal.org > Objet : RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help > > An annoying problem I have with Live .asd files is when you > burn them to a cd and the burned filename gets truncated >

RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-13 Thread James Hurlbut
An annoying problem I have with Live .asd files is when you burn them to a cd and the burned filename gets truncated because of the filename length restrictions of the cd format the .wav file won't read the .asd file when you copy the file back to your hard drive and you have to rewarp it. Of c

RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
>On a side note, when I pull in tracks that I've already warped in other sets, the warp markers don't seem to show >up, and I still have to rewarp them. Am I doing something wrong? Usually the way I do it is copy the .wav and .asd >file into the directory I use for the set, and Ableton shows a symb

Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Edward George
ould be much more flexible to start with a blank interface and > pull in any clips I want for a set out of a library of warped clips. I do > something similar to Brendan also, saving keystrokes as well as Midi slider > and knob functions for mixing. > > ~David > > > >

RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to start with a blank interface and pull in any clips I want for a set out of a library of warped clips. I do something similar to Brendan also, saving keystrokes as well as Midi slider and knob functions for mixing. ~David -- Original Message ----- Subject: RE: (313) Ableton Live

Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
Heh. I'm just transferring my files across to a hard disk. There's stuff I have that I forgot was on there. Just found one "BBC Sound Effects - Tardis Taking off, b/w Tardis Landing" heh heh heh heh heh heh. *evil laugh* _ ---

Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
>ableton actually recommends that you carry the demo version on CD with you >to gigs. Matt, that's EXACTLY what I wanted to hear! Thanks Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by

RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
Brilliant. Huge Thanks Folks. So, just so I have this right. I already have my wavs and asd's, so there shouldn't be any other problems right? And, I'd forgotten about this before - but I'm going to have to map all my midi and keys on the night, and do my settings there and then as I won't be abl

Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Matt Kane
At 08:56 AM 11/12/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think I'll be OK to use the demo version for a gig? ableton actually recommends that you carry the demo version on CD with you to gigs. it's fully functional so if your computer craps out you can use someone else's and not have to worry

RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Brendan Nelson
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 November 2004 14:10 > > So, what would I need to save I guess is my question? Apart from when I use it to do re-edits or new tracks, the only times I save things in Ableton is when I want to set up a bla

Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Edward George
you might want to record it all to the timeline so that you have the raw stuff for tweaking and rendering later maybe... On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:09:45 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >ermmm NO - because you can't like save - unless you are planning to > >turn up early and bea

Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
>ermmm NO - because you can't like save - unless you are planning to >turn up early and beat match and set your settell me if you are >Alex I'd like to watch Yeah, but you can use files that are already marked down right? I always start with a blank screen. Only things that are saved are

Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Edward George
unless of course you have all the .asd files with all the warping set from your previous 'trial' version On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:00:52 +, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ermmm NO - because you can't like save - unless you are planning to > turn up early and beat match and set your set

RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Brendan Nelson
in your set? Brendan > -Original Message- > From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 November 2004 14:01 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help > > > ermmm NO - because you can't like s

Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Martin Dust
ermmm NO - because you can't like save - unless you are planning to turn up early and beat match and set your settell me if you are Alex I'd like to watch On 12 Nov 2004, at 13:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks. Sorry to ask this here. I honestly don't know who else to ask. And

RE: (313) Ableton Live Demo

2004-10-22 Thread iancheshire
>> -Original Message- >> From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 22. oktober 2004 13:24 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo >>

Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Dust
PC btw. Jernej www.octex.org -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22. oktober 2004 13:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo I run a completely clean machine with Ableton on Ian and rewire still crashes - so much so that w

RE: (313) Ableton Live Demo

2004-10-22 Thread Ken Odeluga
That would be interesting Martin. Thanks. Ken >-Original Message- >From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:32 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo > > >I've got a tip

RE: (313) Ableton Live Demo

2004-10-22 Thread Jernej Marusic
rom: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 22. oktober 2004 13:24 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo > > > I run a completely clean machine with Ableton on Ian and rewire still > crashes - so much so that we carry

Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Dust
I am up against, defo new machine then..cheers for the info. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 10/22/2004 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) A

RE: (313) Ableton Live Demo

2004-10-22 Thread iancheshire
Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo I run a completely clean machine with Ableton on Ian and rewire still crashes - so much so that we carry a spare machine and dupe sets on each machine we use (4 in total). Martin

Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Dust
s :( need a new machine...prob mac :) -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 10/22/2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo You&#

RE: (313) Ableton Live Demo

2004-10-22 Thread iancheshire
10:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo > > > > Does it stall as rewire is starting up? >

Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Dust
ep thats it -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 10/22/2004 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo Does it stall as rewire is starting up?

RE: (313) Ableton Live Demo

2004-10-22 Thread iancheshire
yep thats it -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 10/22/2004 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo Does it stall as

Re: (313) Ableton Live Demo

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Dust
Does it stall as rewire is starting up? On 22 Oct 2004, at 09:51, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi ya Can anyone tell me what system requirements u need for this particuarly memory as I have 256MB of RAM and about 1GB of HD left but it keeps sticking :( cheers Ian

Re: (313) Ableton Live Users

2004-09-22 Thread alex . bond
Massive thanks to all who have emailed to help. I couldn't live without this list! I'm proper petrified about using a computer to do anything, I just don't understand them. Many Thanks Again! Alex _ - End of me

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes/Namm

2004-01-23 Thread yussel
40 PM > To: Quest Pond; kj at technotourist dot org; '313'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes > > > 24/1/04 1:36 AM Quest [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > getting to techie to be on 313 i feel > > But isn't this where we are at - the future and technology, certainly beats > people have a pop at Jeff Mills... > > Martin Dust > >

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread J. T.
l Message - From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes > 1-2 percent adds up. > > this is the reason ableton hasnt d

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread atomly
[KiDDy*RaVeR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > I dont use Ableton, but i have experienced this "MP3 silence gap" > problem, since i work on Macromedia Flash. You can dynamically import > external MP3 into your Flash movie. But forget it, if you wanna make a > loop with it... While, its possible to import a

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread KiDDy*RaVeR
to be the defacto standard!! (And, yes its really encoded in MP3). - KiDD*e* - Original Message - From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) A

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread /0
1-2 percent adds up. this is the reason ableton hasnt done it, check their forums - Original Message - From: "Ronny Pries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:59 AM Subject: RE: (313) Ableton Li

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread atomly
[robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > can anyone point me in the direction of any more Ableton Live created > mixes? http://www.atomly.com/music/sets/ I'd check out the newest first: http://www.atomly.com/music/atomly_-_live_at_dbn_nye_20031231.mp3 It's a "DJ set" of sorts, though all tracks are by me.

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Ronny Pries
we're talking about maybe 1-2% per mp3 stream. that is not the argument. besides, my notebook hd is already the max. size limit. on the other hand it's simply impossible to play with mp3 loops because mp3 isn't gapless (adds a few ms silence before and after the data area). i would just like to us

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread robin
i think ACID was used for that mix. and yeah it's a good example of the use of software for a mixcould do with a few more hooks in there tho to contast with the minimalismbut that's just a personal taste thing. robin... -> i don't know whether this is going solely to you or the -> whol

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Dennis DeSantis
J. T. wrote: imo henke's genius is in reaktor, not ableton... I think he might disagree with you. yeah i dont mean to write-off the program, or mixes done in ableton, i just do not see it as the future of music or as some new frontier for mixing. No single tool is the future of anything.

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
>It's a little like finding out that your 808 can make drip coffee, then >finding out that it's really bad coffee, then selling your 808 because >it sucks. I find that at adding a bit of cowbell makes the coffee tastes much better... unlike the 303 coffee makers - the coffee always tastes too

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread J. T.
nicely said dennis When Robert Henke first built the Live prototype as a Max patch, it was for him to do his own live shows, using his own loops, but with the freedom to combine and collage (not a verb, I know) on the fly. exactly! which from my p.o.v., makes it not so hot as a live tool as w

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread r3dshift
your 808 must be ghetto because mine makes some FINE coffee :p Just to add my 2 cents... I don't think Ableton was really every conceived of as a DJ tool in any sort of conventional sense. Sure, you CAN use it that way. But as has been discussed, it's a little too safe. When Robert Henke fi

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread rebekah
i don't know whether this is going solely to you or the whole list. i don't speak often. but: closer to the edit!?! i don't know if he was using ableton, but i do believe that that is the potential of LIVE mixing loops that you 'spent a week to cut up'. if that is your vision, and that's how lon

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread r3dshift
gt;I dont know who has time to put markers on all mp3 tracks especally >with the >clumbsy marker controls in ableton, not me. > >Quest Pond > >-Original Message- >From: Ronny Pries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, 23 January 2004 2:07 PM >To: '313'

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread r3dshift
you dont want the overhead of decoding multiple mp3 streams in realtime (by default, live reads the wav in realtime each time it plays, a lot like a record player... )applying pitch or time shifting, and then output as an uncompressed stream. you can upgrade hard drives with much more ease than a

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Dennis DeSantis
Just to add my 2 cents... I don't think Ableton was really every conceived of as a DJ tool in any sort of conventional sense. Sure, you CAN use it that way. But as has been discussed, it's a little too safe. When Robert Henke first built the Live prototype as a Max patch, it was for him to

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Thorin Teague
No, it's not just you. Though, listening to a DJ literally remix a track right before your eyes can be a pretty excellent experience. Some DJ's don't like "just playing tracks," and that's fine too. I guess if you want to just listen to a track, you can buy the record yourself and play it at h

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread J. T.
i strongly dislike ableton. it's a good tool for studio style mixing, a great advance and added flexibility etc, but i still see it as studio style mixing. it makes mixing a very cerebral process; it's way geeky. and it's too safe. to me it is at odds with the pleasure of playing and listening t

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes/Namm

2004-01-23 Thread Quest Pond
ECTED] Sent: Friday, 23 January 2004 2:40 PM To: Quest Pond; kj at technotourist dot org; '313'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes 24/1/04 1:36 AM Quest [EMAIL PROTECTED] > getting to techie to be on 313 i feel But isn't this where we are at - the future an

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Martin
24/1/04 1:36 AM Quest [EMAIL PROTECTED] > getting to techie to be on 313 i feel But isn't this where we are at - the future and technology, certainly beats people have a pop at Jeff Mills... Martin Dust

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Odeluga, Ken
>Ableton is a rewire master and slave application AFAIK so you could >play it along with your favorite sequencer... > Anyone who ever tried it knows it's a more attractive in theory over practice, no offense. Plus I find it think it's quite misleading for Live to be marketed as a MIDI device. It

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Quest Pond
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 23 January 2004 2:34 PM To: Quest Pond Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '313' Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes On 24-jan-04, at 2:23, Quest Pond wrote: > use both audo no midi > play virtual instrument plugins Ableton is a rewire master and slave application AF

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread kj at technotourist dot org
clumbsy marker controls in ableton, not me. Quest Pond -Original Message- From: Ronny Pries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 23 January 2004 2:07 PM To: '313' Subject: RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes i discovered ableton live a few days ago and have started to chop my v

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Quest Pond
2:07 PM To: '313' Subject: RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes i discovered ableton live a few days ago and have started to chop my vinyls into handy loops. it's really sick work but on the other hand i can't wait to add this to my vinyl/fs set. as far as i got it, most of you use ableton

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Dennis DeSantis
Ronny Pries wrote: i discovered ableton live a few days ago and have started to chop my vinyls into handy loops. it's really sick work but on the other hand i can't wait to add this to my vinyl/fs set. as far as i got it, most of you use ableton to play entire tracks with it? uhm, i can't ope

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Ronny Pries
i discovered ableton live a few days ago and have started to chop my vinyls into handy loops. it's really sick work but on the other hand i can't wait to add this to my vinyl/fs set. as far as i got it, most of you use ableton to play entire tracks with it? uhm, i can't open any mp3's here, you g

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Martin
End of Feb, real turned metal knobs with lush dampers/// 23/1/04 12:52 PM Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tom Churchill wrote: > >>> Kirk had one I was looking at, It had 8 channels I think, and it had an >>> ableton live logo on there. maybe that was a sticker? >> >> >> Maybe it was the Evolution

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread alex . bond
>Maybe it was the Evolution UC-33 with the Ableton overlay? thats exactly what it was Tom, thanks for that. other folks, they're alright these, I tell ya.. _ - End of message text This e-ma

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Dennis DeSantis
Tom Churchill wrote: Kirk had one I was looking at, It had 8 channels I think, and it had an ableton live logo on there. maybe that was a sticker? Maybe it was the Evolution UC-33 with the Ableton overlay? http://www.ableton.com/index.php?main=news-archive&sub=evolution_uc33 I use one of th

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Martin
Is it Plastic or Metal Tom... PS, reviews section is live - send ya stuff for review fella :) 23/1/04 12:51 PM Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Kirk had one I was looking at, It had 8 channels I think, and it had an >> ableton live logo on there. maybe that was a sticker? > > Maybe it was the Evolutio

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Tom Churchill
> Kirk had one I was looking at, It had 8 channels I think, and it had an > ableton live logo on there. maybe that was a sticker? Maybe it was the Evolution UC-33 with the Ableton overlay? http://www.ableton.com/index.php?main=news-archive&sub=evolution_uc33 I use one of these with Live (and Log

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread alex . bond
>http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/evo_xsession.htm >i wonder if the mxf8 from the Notron people will be good (eh martin? :) >i guess the A&H xone 92 (drool) is the ultimate but at £1150 it's way >out of my league! Kirk had one I was looking at, It had 8 channels I think, and it had an ableton

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Martin
We have two of these Robin, well tacky and not enough nob's but they do the trick - needs new drivers as some things are just a little too slow for our liking. Not sure how long they are going to hold up as well... 23/1/04 12:29 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > i think i'm gonna plump for one of thes

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread robin
i think i'm gonna plump for one of these...nice and cheap too: http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/evo_xsession.htm i wonder if the mxf8 from the Notron people will be good (eh martin? :) i guess the A&H xone 92 (drool) is the ultimate but at £1150 it's way out of my league! robin... Ma

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread /0
I'd agree robin but I think it happened 2 years ago and peoples perception is just now catching up. - Original Message - From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 5:

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Martin
True, true - I've seen some great stuff done with both - but I think the game is about to get hotter - on Wednesday I witnessed one of the best, if not only real-time controllers for these packages - I can't say any more, as I'm under an NDA but the end of Feb will be very interesting... 23/1/04

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Nice. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2004 11:48 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes Alex Bond wrote: > so maybe digital dj'ing allows someone to think more about > programming than actual mixi

RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread Brendan Nelson
Alex Bond wrote: > so maybe digital dj'ing allows someone to think more about > programming than actual mixing (as it's virtually 'automatic') > and I think that has to be a good thing. I think? I'd actually say that digital dj'ing gives DJs the flexibility to choose how much "automation" the

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread robin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and allow big variety in the music being played. I think this might be one of the most important points of it all. I think in general, certainly in the UK, theres a huge downturn in people being interested enough to go out to clubs. (obviously not all, some clubs are

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread robin
deep-z wrote: of coarse, if you have a MIDI controller along with Live! or let's say NI Traktor, it's ok. but main thing that starts to bother me is this: if all dj's will start using their pc's to mix things then vinyl business will eventualy die. look at by example soulseek or some direc

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread alex . bond
>and allow big variety in the music being played. I think this might be one of the most important points of it all. I think in general, certainly in the UK, theres a huge downturn in people being interested enough to go out to clubs. (obviously not all, some clubs are flourishing) and I think tha

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread robin
i used to think that until i played with Live. i think that as long as it's not all controlled with a mouse (that doesn't feel like djing, for sure) then it's the end result that matters. the things that can be done genuinely live, in a spontaneous way...which is the key here in software and

Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes

2004-01-23 Thread alex . bond
>also what are peoples opinions on digital djing in general? well, I only ever saw someone do it once at a party. it was kirk de giorgio, and it was pretty incredible and kind of changed my whole perception of it. his last 45 minutes was just classic after classic after classic, all sort of inter

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-20 Thread Dan Sicko
Is this like Eddie Murphy's character "Clarence," who played saxophone with the Beatles? -d On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 10:50 AM, Kent williams wrote: Dan, you didn't know that Yngvie was originally the fifth member of Kraftwerk, and was cut from the master tapes after a tiff with Flori

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-20 Thread Kent williams
Dan, you didn't know that Yngvie was originally the fifth member of Kraftwerk, and was cut from the master tapes after a tiff with Florian? SOME TECHNO RESEARCHER YOU ARE! On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Dan Sicko wrote: > Now I've seen everything on this list. :) > > On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 10:2

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-20 Thread Dan Sicko
Now I've seen everything on this list. :) On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 10:29 AM, Kent williams wrote: Yngvie Malmsteen.

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-20 Thread Kent williams
1. You actually move parts of your body when you play an instrument. Audiences interpret this as 'doing something' 2. While there are many challenges to doing live Techno, the idea that the performers spent time learning to play instruments, and can re-create their music in front of them in real

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-20 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - From: "Jernej Marusic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Jayson B.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: RE: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public) > One way for

RE: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-20 Thread Jernej Marusic
w mad Professor live, it was something similar. He had a band playing on the stage, and he was playing the mixer and effects. Jernej www.soundoflj.com/octex -Original Message- From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19. december 2002 20:32 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ab

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-19 Thread ::\)
- Original Message - From: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:32 PM Subject: Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public) > > > >I agree with fred here, also, I pack nearly 500 sounds into my PAs

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-19 Thread Jayson B.
I agree with fred here, also, I pack nearly 500 sounds into my PAs and although I have an idea of which sounds go best together, I try to avoid arranging my PAs in any order. ah. i disagree whole heartedly. i feel too many pa's do it this way, and it begins to feel like "here's this sound

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-19 Thread techno
on 12/19/02 1:26 PM, Cyborg K at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Maybe techno producers who do live PAs should break down and take a couple > keyboard lessons? Part of the appeal of techno is it's all about composing and producing tracks utilizing technology. Why do techno producers have to be pressur

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-19 Thread ::\)
complexity of the "track" without committing more resources to running 10-15 more clips. - Original Message - From: "FRED giannelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 200

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-19 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
I never played on stage with a guitar but i always wondered why people say that as soon as a band uses guitars, drums, sax etc. it is considered more live then some guy who is working the hell out of a bunch of electronic equipment? I never understood why repeating a guitar riff for 4 minutes i

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2002-12-19 Thread Cyborg K
ough it is possible to play quite a bit of keys and tweak at the same time... /dave -Original Message- From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public) >Maybe techno producers wh

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-19 Thread FRED giannelli
Well, I consider the art of arranging as the art of the Live PA. Whether it be using traditional samplers and sequencers or a Laptop with Ableton live on it. I've done it both ways. I don't think the audience really cares as long as they like what is coming out of the speakers whether or not you

RE: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-19 Thread Jayson B.
Maybe techno producers who do live PAs should break down and take a couple keyboard lessons? Carl Craig played some live keys when I saw his live PA, I think it was as Paperclip People. and i found everytime he touched the keys i got bored. the thing is, playing full 'live' or not, when you

RE: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-19 Thread Cyborg K
, 2002 2:38 AM Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public) Kent williams wrote: > I still don't know how to make a live electronic set truly dynamic. My > solution is to improvise it all live with live loop sampling. You have to embrace and work with th

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-19 Thread Sakari Karipuro
::) wrote on Wed, 18 Dec 2002 about following: > 3.) new stretch routines and the ability to turn stretching off (greatly > increasing sound quality) whoah, thats great. i hope they can make the timestretch better, because it's sounds even worse than what was in Sound Forge 3, MANY years ago. t

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-19 Thread Dennis DeSantis
Kent williams wrote: I still don't know how to make a live electronic set truly dynamic. My solution is to improvise it all live with live loop sampling. You have to embrace and work with the fact that there's only so "live" a live PA is going to get. The reason for this comes down to the

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-19 Thread Kent williams
Well, I think Stewart's animus against laptops is that most laptop performances involves people staring at computer screens -- i.e. zero charisma, and in some cases, people doing absolutely nothing truly live. I've seen my share of people doing 'live' sets with the equivalent of Winamp. Stewart's

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-18 Thread atomly
["::)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > a few quick improvements, although this is way off topic: > > 1.) 2 new fx > 2.) multiple midi inputs > 3.) new stretch routines and the ability to turn stretching off (greatly > increasing sound quality) > 4.) group based crossfader > 5.) fixed highpass filter > 6.)

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-18 Thread ::\)
stuff, for me at least -Joe - Original Message - From: "Adam Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public) > i've been fiddling with ableton for a whil

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2002-12-18 Thread Adam Jay
i've been fiddling with ableton for a while, and its a good program. i honestly did not notice any changes for the better in the 2.0 beta. programs like Reason (1.0 and 2.0) still have problems "rewireing". but for live work, i can honestly say that my Electrix Repeater (disclaimer, i hate all

Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)

2002-12-17 Thread Kookie
Man that was a pain in the ass to install. - Original Message - From: "::)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:42 PM Subject: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public) > http://www.ableton.com/beta/download.php > > > >Please send all bug reports

Re: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out

2002-12-12 Thread ::\)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:45 PM Subject: Re: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out > Live 2.01b is really buggy in OS X. > > you can't even drop in 3rd party VST's without it crashing! > > > wow. > > --Chad > - twine - > http://www.twinesound.com

Re: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out

2002-12-12 Thread Chad Mossholder
Live 2.01b is really buggy in OS X. you can't even drop in 3rd party VST's without it crashing! wow. --Chad - twine - http://www.twinesound.com

RE: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out

2002-12-12 Thread Grammenos, Peter
Especially considering monolake is one of the developers! -Original Message- From: Chad Mossholder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:19 PM To: Grammenos, Peter; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out it's not that expensiv

Re: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out

2002-12-12 Thread Chad Mossholder
rsday, December 12, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: RE: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out > > I heard a funny store about abelton (well not funny for the artist). > Apparently > there are abelton software police that go to gigs and look over the > shoulders > of artists during perfo

Re: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out

2002-12-12 Thread jayson
> > so buy the software. > > > > no one is telling anyone to pirate anything. its great stuff, you SHOULD be > > rewarding the developement of tools like this. > > > > then you have nothing to worry about. i agree completely. i bought it within days of it being released. however, i now use t

Re: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out

2002-12-12 Thread Data General
t; > - Original Message - > From: "rob buse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 4:59 PM > Subject: RE: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out > > > > > > And they bring in the thugs with

Re: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out

2002-12-12 Thread ::\)
org> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 4:59 PM Subject: RE: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out > > And they bring in the thugs with guns to make users show ID ? How could they > get the artist or venue to stop ? > > I'm glad I write my own software > > .rob

RE: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out

2002-12-12 Thread rob buse
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 4:33 PM >To: Grammenos, Peter; 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) ableton live 2.0 public beta out > > >I wonder how you tell just by looking at the screen? &g

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