From: "detroit science" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] DEMF & 'Hurt Feelings'
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 03:04:10 EDT
lordy lordy. be thankful that you DON'T know wassup in this lovely world
called clubland. you'd prol
i say the 313 gets together and opens our own club. that way we can be the
>hot club owners who take over the festival after he gets sick of it. or
>maybe we can leave it up to linda, who definately knows wassup in the
club >life...
lordy lordy. be thankful that you DON'T know wassup in this
t Remember the Funk and Keep It Holy"
-George Clinton
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...>Also, for Mr. Superstar DJ his own self, in regards to this album
of yours which is selling like hotcakes in Europe, that continent's
collective dodgy taste in music just demonstrates how shit your tunes >are,
Europe? shit taste in music? well which continent was it ignored techno for
over
i only brought up the gary chandler point because of the comment made that
they only booked people that move things forward. to be honest, from what i
understand there was a process to getting booked that EVERYONE had to
follow. i'm sure alan will play next year. not everyone can play every ye
I would say it IS our right to question things, but attitude and respect
make all the difference. After all, we are all *fans* of this music,
like KDJ (if you caught his comment on stage yesterday), and
fans always have opinions about everything, but when the time
comes they support the home team
why is it people insist on reading between the lines and looking for a deeper
meaning behind everything?
Alan himself says he's been booked solid for that weekend since February. The
Festival wasnt even announced until April. Dont look for ulterior motives or
sinister plots where there is none. Why
This discussion (which notably Alan did not begin on this list) reminds me
very much of March Madness, when inevitably there is one team that should
have made the cut, but didn't. I would've loved to see Alan again, this time
in Detroit, but it's not for us to decide who should/should not have been
From: Kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>On Sun, 28 May 2000, stephen wrote:
>> DJT1000 has become somewhat of a controversial figure in Detroit, very
>> opinionated, not afraid to speak his mind. I'm sure he has burned a
>> few bridges and stepped on peo
> Alan
>
> I think the reason you haven't been asked to play is because you don't play
> what the rest of Detroit is into anymore.
That is just fucking bullshit, dude.
So going by that logic, since I don't wear Hello Kitty and Ecko Unlimited - or
whatever it is - gear I shouldn't be a fan? ;)
O
resor release wich was a good step) but once again that are my
views on the story
greetz,
Alfterglow
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Subject: Re: [313] DEMF & 'Hurt Feelings
Alan
I wrote that first post when drunk and it's a little over-the-top
opinionated, and yes, coloured by the fact I made assumptions about what you
play when I haven't heard you play (which I will when I get the chance
because I've only heard good things).
I stand by the main thrust of the p
On Sun, 28 May 2000, stephen wrote:
> DJT1000 has become somewhat of a controversial figure in Detroit, very
> opinionated, not afraid to speak his mind. I'm sure he has burned a
> few bridges and stepped on peoples tows in the process and Carl Craig
^-->toes
In a message dated 5/27/2000 9:16:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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<< Alan
I think the reason you haven't been asked to play is because you don't play
what the rest of Detroit is into anymore. Though I've never heard a set I
own a few of your records, which are solid,
>This was fun ! I'm gonna have to write a book. I've got dirt on
everybody. If
>the above is any indication, it will be the anti-"Techno Rebels". Slash
and
>burn politics. Hey, Tim Barr, wanna help write it ?
I think it was a public relations move on Carl Craig's part not to
include DJT1000 in the
Rol I don't like Mills new sound.I much prefer the May/Atkins stuff.
If your characterization of Alan is correct--and though I know Alan
through his work on FAST FORWARD I haven't heard his stuff--then I
probably wouldn't want to hear it at a gig necessarily.
But with that said, I think Alan i
>Frankly, I'd rather not see a lot of speculation about who is
>playing at DEMF and why appearing on this list.
I think these are wise words, me. Carl is to be commended for going out on a
limb and doing it. If I were from Detroit I'd be really proud of him.
Obviously the first time you do any
My post has been interpreted as an attack on Alan Oldham, which I didn't
mean it to be (the 'stuck in a groove' comment is regrettable). I read
Alan's manifesto and I posted in the same straight style he used. (I trust a
big shoot-from-the-hip man like Alan will not be offended by the small word
Frankly, I'd rather not see a lot of speculation about who is
playing at DEMF and why appearing on this list. Those who know,
know what the reasons are and have little to do with the speculation
here. I carry around an old rule of thumb from my Deadhead days
that helps in situations like this: b
27, 2000 9:16 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] DEMF & 'Hurt Feelings'
Alan
I think the reason you haven't been asked to play is because you don't play
what the rest of Detroit is into anymore. Though I've never heard a set I
own a few of your records, which are
There is no justification for not including in this festival someone who
has played such a huge role in the history of electronic music in Detroit.
Especially in light of some of the dj's booked. Politics suck and in this
case they're robbing the festival attendees of a chance to see this great
In a message dated 5/27/00 12:17:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> 313@hyperreal.org
Don't you think it's more politics than style?
Miles
15
years, but unless you lived there, you'll never fully understand: this is
virtually a miracle.
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Date: Saturday, May 2
In a message dated 5/27/00 11:16:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But with the exception of Hawtin, Mills and yourself
>
>(and maybe Rolando), it doesn't seem to me that that's what Detoit musicians
>
>are into anymore. I think Detroit and I think Carl Craig, Moodyman and
>Theo
>Parrish. I thin
if they were booking dj's that move stuff forward. then, explain to me why gary
chandler has two sets. i'm not dissing the mans skills, but tell me how booty
music moves anything forward.
In a message dated Sat, 27 May 2000 12:16:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "rol
leider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I think the reason you haven't been asked to play is because you don't play
>what the rest of Detroit is into anymore.
And what is the rest of Detroit (ie the electronic music community) into? It
sounds remarkably diverse to me! It's defined more by its qualities - funk
and soul and individual
Alan
I think the reason you haven't been asked to play is because you don't play
what the rest of Detroit is into anymore. Though I've never heard a set I
own a few of your records, which are solid, and have an indication of what
you play from the comments you've made on this list. Hard and mi
could someone please post Alan's essay...i don't have the convienence of the
internet out here at sea. i would like to read it. everything the man says
seems too be interesting and on point. thanks ahead of time.
jeff
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