> ...i have been heavily listening to the future beat alliance lp "disconnected"
> (21dsr) and i must say it is a beautiful piece of music...
Agreed - and this gives me a great chance to plug the next Emoticon release,
Future Beat Alliance's 'Head Ways' EP, which is released through Rush Hour
next
> i'm not a dj, but i think anyone who complains because a track fades in is
> an arrogant ass. what makes you think that producers should be concerned
> with your needs as a dj. if you don't like it, producer your own tracks.
one could make the argument that because they're selling records on 12"
> Bad Boy:The Advent . one of my favorite tracks of all time. it fades in and
> i love it. sometimes, when i play it in the middle of the set, i will cut
> the table off just to lef this track FADE in. or if not i can mix the fade
> into the current record(s) that is/are playing. imo the fade in or
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> > I was just thinking about how odd this discussion is.
> >
> > Any other musician in any other genre makes music for on
> I was just thinking about how odd this discussion is.
>
> Any other musician in any other genre makes music for one purpose, for ppl
> to listen.
>
> Only in electronic music are producers expected to make music, not for
> listening, but for other ppl to use as tools.
>
> i'm not a dj, but i t
ber) that is
as convenient for that purpose as possible.
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>To: Brian 'balistic' Prince
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I was just thinking about how odd this discussion is.
Any other musician in any other genre makes music for one purpose, for ppl
to listen.
Only in electronic music are producers expected to make music, not for
listening, but for other ppl to use as tools.
i'm not a dj, but i think anyone who co
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:05 AM
To: Dave Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at INET-1; "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org"
<313@hyperreal.org> at INET-1
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I have a younge
4/4 beat (mostly), have grown a little
complacent about how convenient a dj tool should be ... (imho, natch). ... u
should try drum & bass ;¬D
>-Original Message-
>From: Dave Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 1:09 AM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>
ect: [313] 16 / 32 beats (was: RE: (313) Fade In Techno)
> Well, I could take this to another level by saying that all records that I
play
> out are records that are produced in a strict 16 or 32 beat counter (I
don't
> know if this is clearly explained to everyone, I mean records
That Pow Wow release of "Late Night" was just mastered at very low
volume. I actually play the DJ Pierre mix from that a lot, but
the faders always are on 10 :)
A lot of Red Planet material also fades in. I've always guessed
that the point Mike and Jeff were trying to make is that it's
important
Not to beat a dead horse...
--- robin pinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi wibo,
>
> i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are impossible
> to
> mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow and
> structure
> of your mix.
>
> drexciya (and related projects) do th
Mark S Flintoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hey Wibo...
>
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> Mills has a few excellent hard tracks (especially those early Axis
records) that
> really would become instant classics and favorite DJ tools if they would
just
>
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> Mills has a few excellent hard tracks (especially those early Axis
records) that
> really would become instant classics and favorite
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It is not difficult to understand. You are assuming that all techno(related)
tracks are all made for DJ's. I don't think that people like drexciya are
DJ's or make there music for DJ
ngsma; K.J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at INET-1
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Subject: RE: [313] Fade In Techno
It is not difficult to understand. You a
: Lammerts, Wibo; 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1
Subject: RE: [313] Fade In Techno
I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
play Mills and Drexciya records.
Do you guys always m
There was a thread on this subject last year on the g-tech list. Funnily
enough I used Axis 9 as an example of the merits of fade-ins rather than as a
negative. I've copied it over from the archives:
"it can make a track for me.
Sometimes it can give an indication of the intended mood o
:I'm not going mad, here it is ...
:
:Unsatisfied with the beginning of the only mix of "Late Night", I can
:remember deciding to fade in the level from silence for an introduction,
:thus discovering a technical trait that I was use on numerous tracks in my
:recording career. Tresor Records, Berli
> I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
> might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
> play Mills and Drexciya records.
> Do you guys always mix a record right from the start, or what's the problem
> with
> selecting a mor
> i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are impossible to
> mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow and structure
> of your mix.
It's not impossible, you just have to find a point after the fade-in which
is a suitable starting point - just listen to the patterns
i've been here before on the global techno list.
to say that these records are not dj records is a little odd (soz kt), and
what has loops got to do with it? it doesn't matter whether you play loops
or not there is a natural structure to music that, if you follow it, will
make the mix sound 'righ
It is not difficult to understand. You are assuming that all techno(related)
tracks are all made for DJ's. I don't think that people like drexciya are
DJ's or make there music for DJ's. They music because of the music and not
fot DJ's.
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> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van:
I'm confused by this thread. I can understand why people mixing a lot of loops
might complain about fade ins, but it sounds a bit strange coming from Djs who
play Mills and Drexciya records.
Do you guys always mix a record right from the start, or what's the problem with
selecting a more mixable pa
hi wibo,
i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are impossible to
mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow and structure
of your mix.
drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
understood it.
robin...
> A lot of the old records by Mills h
just play the dj pierre mixes instead. they're some of my favourite tracks.
james
www.jbucknell.com
>
> Unsatisfied with the beginning of the only mix of "Late Night", I can
> remember deciding to fade in the level from silence for an introduction,
> thus discovering a technical trait that I was
I second that! YMC's Orange Lady (my favorite track of 99 BTW) is one with
that gradual fade in thing - really a challenge mixing them things in;-)
Cheers,
m*
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To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:10 AM
Subject: [313]
No Wibo, you're not thae only one! I only own one Mills record myself but
I've heard friends moaning about the fade in starts to some of Mills'
records. Wasn't there a post only yesterday that explained why he did this?
Is this a co-incidence? Am I going mad???
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I consider most of Mills' stuff being really DJ friendly, but why does he
> produce his tracks this way? Also, anyone got tips on dealing with this?
Purpose Maker tracks don't fade in because they're dj tools. Axis tracks
sometimes
do fade in because they are music!
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