> Movie soundtracks
> >too
>
> Compelling point! I am sure they would love to - Kevin
1) just listened to Metropolis - amazing, beautiful, etc
2) do soundtracks for inexisting movies count ? and what about music that
isn't a soundtrack but could easily be ? I mean, a lot of the techno I
listen
>As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May, Atkins, etc. haven't done
>more commercial stuff. As in "stuff for commercials." Movie soundtracks
>too
Compelling point! I am sure they would love to - Kevin Saunderson was saying
just late last year that it's his dream and will work towards th
Isn't it obvious why Ford used the MOdel 500 tracj, now we can make funny
jokes about it, calling the remix of the track No UFOcus. Of course we all
know that Audi is using our TechnoTourist record TT-001 for their Audi TT
campaign :)
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> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van
I wonder if they considered using 'Night Drive (Thru Babylon)'?
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> Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
>
> Finally,
> I saw the commercial spot last night on VH1 and checked the Ford Motor
> company site today (www.ford.com) checking for two things: a
Out of interest, anyone know where us folks outside america can get an Mpeg,
or suchlike, of the ad?
thanks...
Seth
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Personally, I think that the music is more Audi TT than Ford Focus...
Don't make this a side thread please.
Fred
So forth and so on
My take-
I personally have just recently purchased a ZX2 after considering the
Focus,
but my wife decided that the focus was "ugly". If they had started t
ndustry in detroit is informative in this case, or how any
musical credibility is gained through corporate sponsorship, I would be
glad
to hear.
Not as if Mr Atkins has any issues of musical credibility.
...
From: "Topping, Micah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subje
hine taking
over.
For the time we should be happy that Mr. Atkins is gettin' some green.
Fred
From: "JL Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:13:12 -0500
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I agree completely with Alan;) It's good to see a major corporation
recognizing one of the locals. Ford it seems has had an interest in the
Detroit sound for awhile. I think it was last year that Ford hired Derrick
May to compose an intro for their new website (unfortunatly Ford has changed
t
Amen to that Alan!!! :)
LG
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Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:05:10 EST
In a message dated 11/13/00 12:15:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I was watching fox too. The commercial's en
s any issues of musical credibility.
...
From: "Topping, Micah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:58:29 -0500
> Music is just a design feature of commercials, meant only to serve the
> manipulation of peop
well said, i completely agree
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>
> In a message dated 11/13/00 12:15:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << I was
> Music is just a design feature of commercials, meant only to serve the
> manipulation of people to the advertiser's will. In that
> context, music
> is in service of capitalist mind control. It's worth more
> than that to
> me on it's own terms.
actually it sounds to me like your beef is more
On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Damn, Kent, why can't you just be glad that Ford is using Juan's music in a
> MAJOR commercial, and hopefully paying him accordingly ???
>
I'm glad he's getting paid. I can be glad for him and still be a bit disturbed
by the commercial can't I? M
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<< I was watching fox too. The commercial's end disturbed me a bit:
DETROIT TECHNO
FORD FOCUS (or whatever)
Not to go all Roland Barthes on you but the commercial pretty transparently
tries to take the sign 'DETROIT TECHNO' and
I was watching fox too. The commercial's end disturbed me a bit:
DETROIT TECHNO
FORD FOCUS (or whatever)
Not to go all Roland Barthes on you but the commercial pretty transparently
tries to take the sign 'DETROIT TECHNO' and assign a new meaning to it, namely
a FORD Automobile.
It was another e
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:10:26 -0500
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
>
> on 11/12/00 8:51 PM, Dave Walker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
on 11/12/00 8:51 PM, Dave Walker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The advert just played on Fox, during "Malcolm in the Middle"
> Very cool. Reminds me a bit of Chris Cunningham's
> "Second Bad Vilbel" video.
Just saw it myself and I had the same reaction. Not very cheesy, and the
edit from the tr
The advert just played on Fox, during "Malcolm in the Middle"
Very cool. Reminds me a bit of Chris Cunningham's
"Second Bad Vilbel" video.
-d.w.
"If you wish it, it will happen!" Yes, there are plans for a new site
dedicated to Alan Oldham's artwork which will include animations and a new
Johnny Gambit cartoon series...so hold on to your hats!
Peace,
G l y p h.
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<< I wo
drawings are great
>
>bye
>
>
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> When I saw that movie I thought some kicking detroit
> stuff would be IDEAL. Strings of life, maybe, but
&
>and so any movement for change will ultimately fail.
>When innovators can't see, or can't move, outside the structure they set
>themselves up for failure.
There are plenty of innovators within the structures subverting them -
Wu-Tang, even UR to an extent, etc. What is holding back techno in the
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Peter B Leidy wrote:
> hear where youre comin from - but i think with that sort of utopian
> expectation from a heartless capitalist economy - you're bound for
> disappointment.
and so any movement for change will ultimately fail.
When innovators can't see, or can't move, outsi
;s a nice
core crowd who know and love his music.
maybe i'm just different, but to be known and respected internationally and
to be able to live in peace at home would be ideal to me.
my 0.02
Mike
From: "laura gavoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperre
Wow! this is cool.
So when will this commercial air?
gots to get my VCR ready for this, the whole concept reminds me of
Transformers, remember Transformers? I used to be so into those as a
kid, also Go-Bots, Voltron, Robotech (Macross), and all that Japanese
mecca shtuff.
stephen.
> Whyever would they choose a black musical innovator when there always a
> white imitator like Moby??
This makes me think that Pan sonic were supposed to provide the music
for Nissan Almera ad campaign, but the dealers thought it was too
weird, so they ended up using Moby... Where is Captain Aha
proud and elated for Juan. It is embarassingly overdue and it
won't change him musically one blinkin' bit.
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To: "313 mailing list" <313@hyperreal.org>
I believe it is some 17-18 later.finally recognition in your own city.
Sigh!
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Subject: Re: [313] Ford and A
--- John Shipman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> to me it's
> just another example of a big corporation jumping on
> something way after the
> fact,
Always going to happen.
> stomping on something beautiful like a giant
> baby hewy and milking it
> for financial gain.
Well I'm hoping that the d
>To my knowledge, most Planet E 12"s are
>not distributed outside the US, but some European
>labels are stable enough to do this.
They are quite well distributed through Siren in Australia who have tried to
raise its profile and done very well - I wish other labels were this well
distributed. The
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i don't think it is related in any way other then the fact the music is
finally getting res
This all got me thinking about the way cars have been a continually
recurrent theme in techno: 'Landcruising', Le Car, 'Night Drive 'Thru
Babylon' etc etc etc. Then of course all the similarities between Ford's
robots and machine music etc. It's interesting how the car-based culture of
Detroit (I s
It shouldn't, but unfortunately it does. That is just the bleak reality of
the situation.
>hey, now, race shouldn't play a part in this...
kinda symbolic, i think. symbolizes that techno is so far ahead of its
time...
take care,
Mike
From: "lil' robbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 13:06:52 EST
a million times better, but popular appeal is more important to
them than true quality.
From: "laura gavoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:55:50 GMT
Whyever would they choose a black musical innovator
One good thing about mainstreaming of techno in
America could be that Planet E, or Trnasmat could get
as powerful as some of their European underground
counterparts. To my knowledge, most Planet E 12"s are
not distributed outside the US, but some European
labels are stable enough to do this. If mor
r before\after - please contact me today. (don't
contact me to beat the tar out of me because you disagree with my opinions
on the list... that wouldn't look good in front of my wife.)
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> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:36 PM
> To: John Shipman
> Cc: 'Topping, Micah'; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
>
>
> > me in the first place. i've always thought of the people involved in the
> > music
> me in the first place. i've always thought of the people involved in the
> music to be intelligent enough to circumvent this whole entire system.
who
> needs them? with the technology and communication that is at eveyones
> disposal, the big money has no power or at least not as much power as it
[313] Re: [Re: [313] Ford and Atkins]
>
> Actually , I do recall reading in the News that Derrick May
> 'scored' sound track stuff for the Ford website and they
> actually have a bio as well.
> Would this be related to Genral Motors booking Dj Bone to
> &#
, temporary autonomous zone. never dies, just constantly morphs
to fight against evil
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter B Leidy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:10 PM
> To: John Shipman
> Cc: 'Topping, Micah'; 313@hyperreal.or
ompany. but what do i
> know?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Topping, Micah [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:04 AM
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject:RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
> >
> > &g
..atleast it probably wont be as europoppy or trancey as some of those
oldsmobile alero commercials and some other poorly done attempts at using
dance music to sell a car..
..i also think that its cool that they are using an older track by Atkins..
even though they are advertising a new product.
Everyone should hear this music. And yes, unfortunately most people do act
like "sheep" when it comes to everything including music.
But if Ford is gonna put it out there, well we have to see the positive side
to it. How else will people hear this music in the states without radio and
MTV. It's
Don't forget that the Ford web site was using Derrick May last year
in their Flash.
Anyhow I'd rather have "No UFO's" doing its magic to promote an
economy car like the Focus than say some monster Cayonero-type SUV.
And the three door Focus does kinda look like a spaceship...
At any rate it is
Whyever would they choose a black musical innovator when there always a
white imitator like Moby??
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CC: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Wed, 08
ember 09, 2000 9:33 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
>
> > i'm having a hard time swallowing this i guess, just can't
> > really see it as
> > a good thing. don't get me wrong i think it's wonderful for
> > atkins hi
>Maybe Ford can include a copy of the >>track with each car purchase?
>Fred
That is actually a very good idea...some semi-unrecognized D.J. needs to get
on that ...yesterday!!
A mix with no ufo's included obviously. A lot of classic Detroit stuff
...the Rob Hood track ...
this is an idea that can
its a good thing that Ford decided to use such a track
>for one of their ads. Like the Pirelli ad with a track by Aphex. It kinda
>helps to spread the *word* no?
>
>fab
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>From: Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Christian Bloch <[EMAIL PROT
> i'm having a hard time swallowing this i guess, just can't
> really see it as
> a good thing. don't get me wrong i think it's wonderful for
> atkins himself,
> he deserves everything he gets and from what i've heard it's
> not a hack job
> on the tune but, at the same time it's a horrible sham
Actually , I do recall reading in the News that Derrick May
'scored' sound track stuff for the Ford website and they
actually have a bio as well.
Would this be related to Genral Motors booking Dj Bone to
'dj' their Detroit auto show 2000 In which the new Hummer
concept was brought out w
the contradictions are quite interesting, esp. given the misquote
usually attributed to Juan saying he was more interested in Ford's
robots than his cars.
But rather than an uncomfortable connection with Ford's past,
wouldn't this be a great place from which to move forward? Or are
the "si
eople who would appreciate it would have found it
eventually anyway without the help of ford motor company. but what do i
know?
> -Original Message-
> From: Topping, Micah [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:04 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject
> I can't believe that there is actually a troll on this list! :-))
> Personally I think its a good thing that Ford decided to use
> such a track
> for one of their ads. Like the Pirelli ad with a track by
> Aphex. It kinda
> helps to spread the *word* no?
i too think this is a wonderful thing.
d
er
"Most people have the cataract.
They do not see what they look at.
Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum..." - Stereolab
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From: Christian Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:57 AM
Subject: R
> what does everyone think about this?
i think it is amusing and sad.
highlights the contradictions in culture i see when i look at the
usa. (plank own eye yeah yeah)
ford- the corporation that systemised worker exploitation. a founder who
was a facist. an organisation that deskilled it's worker
w.mp3.com/bloch
Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 11:40 PM
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> Ford, quite possi
> Peace,
> Patrick.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sean deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2000 9:54 AM
> To: Dan Sicko; keleigh casper
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
>
>
> Also from Ford look for the upc
Yonker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: FRED MCMURRY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: 313@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
> >Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:47:35 -0500 (EST)
> >
> >I think the expression on my dad's another conservative
>
lol
however, I was thinking more like a CD single...but vinyl would be
hilarious.
Fred
From: Nathan John de Yonker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: FRED MCMURRY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:47:35 -0500 (EST)
quot;
:)
n8
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, FRED MCMURRY wrote:
> Maybe Ford can include a copy of the track with each car purchase?
>
> Fred
>
>
> >From: sean deason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Nathan John de Yonker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> &
Maybe Ford can include a copy of the track with each car purchase?
Fred
From: sean deason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Nathan John de Yonker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 20:55
10 years to late
--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 11/8/00 8:52 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May,
> Atkins, etc. haven't done
> > more commercial stuff. As in "stuff for
> commercials." Movie soundtr
When I saw that movie I thought some kicking detroit
stuff would be IDEAL. Strings of life, maybe, but
imagine something like T1000, Denham, Young, etc etc
etc.
Ass-kickin stuff.
Dave
--- Lester Kenyatta Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Take THE MATRIX for instance. Can you imagine how
> dope
on 11/8/00 8:52 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May, Atkins, etc. haven't done
> more commercial stuff. As in "stuff for commercials." Movie soundtracks
> too
Same old, same old. It took Moby licensing all the tracks on Play
ditto
--
sean deason
> From: Nathan John de Yonker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:22:03 -0500 (EST)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
>
>
> I approve
>
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTEC
On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Nathan John de Yonker wrote:
>
> I approve
>
Me too.
I remember the first time I heard techno appropriated by traditional
institutions in Detroit--the NBC affiliate (channel 4 wdiv) would use some
of May's work for their "breaking news" soundtrack. And for their news
comme
I hate cars, but I love Juan Atkins. Such a dilemma!
Glad he's making some bucks. He deserves it.
--dick richards
Nathan John de Yonker wrote:
> I approve
>
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > what does everyone think about this?
> >
>
> --
r when you can share it.
criticism n envy will make you depressed.
bond.jamesbond.
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I approve
On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> what does everyone think about this?
>
what does everyone think about this?
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Also from Ford look for the upcoming "Made In Detroit" Ford Focus which will
be a limited edition Focus decked out with the famous Stanzler/Arnett logo
on the sides. no I'm not kidding this time.
--
sean deason
matrix records
p.o. box 3
on 11/8/00 5:40 PM, styles dr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You get what is equalk to the car,
> a dead track and a dead car with no power.
I never test drove the car, but I'm afraid you won't get much mileage on
this list dissing early Juan Atkins.
--
There4IM
3.582.3410
cell: 313.522.3550
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profile: seandeason.metrotimes.com
> From: Dan Sicko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:46:35 -0500
> To: "keleigh casper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
TP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:54 PM
> > To: 'keleigh casper'; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject:RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
> >
> > i'm quite sure this is what atkins had in mind
> when he originally
> > recorde
er than giving it to something like Kia
or whatnot.
d
np:Massive Attack-Karma Coma
From: John Shipman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'keleigh casper' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:54:14 -0500
i'm quite sure thi
oooppps, that's "we hear at FORD"
> -Original Message-
> From: John Shipman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:54 PM
> To: 'keleigh casper'; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
>
>
i'm quite sure this is what atkins had in mind when he originally recorded
the tune :Pman, isn't this a sign of the apocalypse? "we hear at for
are really down with that new techno sound"..how cutting edge, where can
i get a focus?
> -Original Message-
> From: keleigh casper [
Wow.
I was *just* going to post about the new print ad I saw for Focus
with the headline "Detroit Techno." I just thought some clever
copywriter at JWT snuck one past his or her superiors, but this is
bigger than I thought!
-d
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