Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4

2003-05-13 Thread spw
Okay several points here: in response to you: That's a tired old stereotype, why continue to generalize Swedish techno? It's not too much to ask for people to be a little more specific with names (more current names and labels) instead of "Swedish techno sucks, it's too monotonous and same sound

Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4

2003-05-12 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
ay so if anyone wants to know how that was..drop me a line. baci fab - Original Message - From: "Peter Leidy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: Re: (313) Swed

Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4

2003-05-12 Thread Peter Leidy
> If you think about it what percentage of techno from Sweden really fit's > under > definition #2? > As for the sound becoming more formulaic maybe you could be more specific > listing artist and labels other than Adam Bayer, Drumcode. My second and final post on the subject as your reply is bode

Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4

2003-05-12 Thread David Gillies
I thought there was an agreement on this list that all such music would be referred to as "banging loopers" ;-) Seems to conjure up images of bangers and mash for me for some reason... hmmm... Peter Leidy said: > I find the second definition more commonly used than the first, but the > context i

Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4

2003-05-11 Thread spw
"David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" raises a valid observation, why so much hatred directed towards Swedish techno? If you think about it what percentage of techno from Sweden really fit's under definition #2? As for the sound becoming more formulaic maybe you could be more specific listing artist

Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4

2003-05-10 Thread RAW2019
> > > I have heard a lot of Swedish techno/tech-house that is NOT just 2-beat loops but some quite musical material. I'm surprised the Swedes get hated on so much. > > > > just a quick note on swedich techno because this topic seems to get folks > talking in circles without really getting anywhe

Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4

2003-05-10 Thread Peter Leidy
> I have heard a lot of Swedish techno/tech-house that is NOT just 2-beat loops > but some quite musical material. I'm surprised the Swedes get hated on so > much. > just a quick note on swedich techno because this topic seems to get folks talking in circles without really getting anywhere: I

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-10-02 Thread Nick Walsh
> Hmmm...this brings a whole new light to those David > Hasselhoff albums... > > http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B142889 Whooohooo!!! Is this stuff available on vinyl??;) Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Pr

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-10-02 Thread Nick Walsh
> Hell, if he started dropping Inner > City "Good Life" would > that make it trance as well? Julesy probably hasn't even heard of it;) Nick(Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.co

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread Jochem_Peteri
quick, get us out of here, KIT!!!(whooow whooow)

RE: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
> >IMHO good music is the music which provokes other > musicians(positive or > >negative) > > > > > > > >154 > > Hmmm...this brings a whole new light to those David > Hasselhoff albums... David Hasselhoff? what ?!?! Hey guys i've got another great idea, lets start a mailinglist about

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread Jochem_Peteri
david rox!!

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread Diana Potts
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Swedish Techno Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:38:46 +0200 IMHO good music is the music which provokes other musicians(positive or negative) 154 Hmmm...this brings a whole new light to those David Hasselhoff albums... http

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread electric seth
Agreed, there's a little too much nordic techno which is all production and no feeling (with the exception of the wonderful and highly funky Cari Lekebush)-although the production is impressively crisp I wonder does this tendency have something to do with the massive Swedish suicide rate? I ha

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread janos
Or maybe a more obvious link. http://www.sonox.com/main/electronica/style.box?showall=1&category=4 // janos JANOS A&R/ Editor Electronic Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone+46.(0)8.729.88.07 Cellphone...+46.(0)708.40.50.77 Fax.+46.(0)8.598.200.64 AdressTomtebogatan

RE: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread Gwendal Cobert
> I appreciate what minimalists like Neil Landstrumm and Cristian > Vogel are doing, but they aren't generally as urgently propulsive as > the recent Surgeon stuff (with the exception of "Gigolos Trapped in > Retro Hell" from Landstrumm's _Pro Audio_, which is both perfectly > titled and totally sl

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread Jochem_Peteri
qualification of music on an "objective level should be about functionality. how valid an argument is without talking about its content can b rated by looking at the reactions it provokes in the same discussion. and then u r just talking about the people having the conversation, the musicians.

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread Jochem_Peteri
IMHO good music is the music which provokes other musicians(positive or negative) 154

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread Steven T Lammers
> I'm at least as interested as anyone else in understanding what makes > good music good, if only because that would make it easier for me to > make good music myself. I think it just comes down to figuring out what you like. ;>

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread Steven T Lammers
Hey Ozymandias... > Do you want to move booties or do > you want to make people scratch their chins? The artists I've been > enjoying the most recently tend to fall squarely in the middle and be > very good at splitting the distance between the two. I'd like to get your current top ten list beca

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread Nik Stoltzman
I agree with you about 'De Sju Skenande Kompressorerna'. Stirring stuff. I think it is available on vinyl on "Vet Dom Som Fer Att" (Know They For Because). Happy Hunting, Nik _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmai

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread FRED MCMURRY
t make it trance as well? Fred From: Nick Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Swedish Techno Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Well go as far to say it's close to trance... I know Julesy was playing "The Mole" a few months back

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-29 Thread ozymandias G desiderata
> "dn" == darw_n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: dn> Anyways, there is a wrench in my gears in that ALOT of people dn> like music for many different reasons, and they are often not dn> truthful about it. One of my huge stumbling blocks in my dn> research is this need to like some

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread ozymandias G desiderata
> "dn" == darw_n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: dn> I am so interested in this, so excuse my frequent posting!! dn> But I am interested in how personality typing plays in all dn> this... dn> For instance, are the lovers of Swedish techno generally dn> introverted (i.e., only

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread ozymandias G desiderata
> "cw" == Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cw> What issue is this? I find that a lot too - and here too cw> among some quarters there is always some new name the techno cw> heads are championing, usually white and British - but you cw> will always find that Black pr

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread ozymandias G desiderata
> "cw" == Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cw> I think the antagonism to the Swedish stuff arises from the cw> fact that the likes of Cari and Adam have been so prolific - cw> saturating the market and subscribing to a formula, even cw> inadvertently. Also it's not m

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread amene
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Cyclone Wehner wrote: > This is off tangent but I know a lot of the UK press sucks but the > antagonism towards journalists is really out of control right now. There are > good and bad writers out there and the press in other countries varies > considerably, so to use the

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Joshua M. Hill
Huh. I actually just got back from my Swedish class so this is an interesting topic. I think an important thing to do if you are to compare Swedish Techno to Detroit Techno is realize the different influences. Go back to the time of John Sinclair in Detroit, arguably an influential time in jazz fo

Re: [Re: [313] Swedish "Techno"

2000-09-28 Thread Wv909
Pardon me if this string forces my hand , as it where... firstly is it known that genralizations are genrally non-functional they exsist only in a non-reality,reality , to fullfill the need to fit everything into a catagory .Second the comment re: lady Di's need to have " genrally more sensory in

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Rich Neal
It's "Phases" and it's not bad... Rich. On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:14:27 -0300 Spiceee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >| Ive personally felt swedish techno was always missing something...I don't >| want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk' as thats a bit harsh, but something >| just a stop short or it.

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Cyclone Wehner
>As I was reading this Month DJ mag, I know I should not read those mass >media control trash, anyway This is off tangent but I know a lot of the UK press sucks but the antagonism towards journalists is really out of control right now. There are good and bad writers out there and the press i

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread debonair
rty; we're there to have a good time after everything is said and done. maybe tha surgeon is bored, maybe he does it solely for the money? - Original Message - From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Frida

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread darw_n
>I think the introverted/extroverted personality/music match is > doomed to failure. Well, as I was just telling someone, I have a tendency to be very general and vastly broad and absolute, a handicap fo sure... Anyways, there is a wrench in my gears in that ALOT of people like music for many di

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Po Chuang
From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] Swedish Techno Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:26:27 +1000 Sure Surgeon and Ruskin and more so Ho subscribe to a more intellectual ethos but that said Surgeon insisted in an interview here that he has no af

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Spiceee
| Ive personally felt swedish techno was always missing something...I don't | want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk' as thats a bit harsh, but something | just a stop short or it. go to your fave record store and check out adam beyer & peter benish "faces ep" on inside... if theres not enough so

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Cyclone Wehner
for that guy [child] to say >that mills / hood are brothers on another planet, makes sense- the clinical >nature of his music puts him on par with the writing of j.g. ballard, and >the person who made the film where two doctor brothers trade metal >instruments...out.bond Surgeon is just a very cyn

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Cyclone Wehner
>I am so interested in this, so excuse my frequent posting!! > >But I am interested in how personality typing plays in all this... > >For instance, are the lovers of Swedish techno generally introverted (i.e., >only needs very slight informational input to feel fulfilled) Well from my very impre

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread darw_n
ww.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: "Diana Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [313] Swedish Techno > > Ive personally felt swedish techno wa

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Hodgson, S. R. (Sean)
Here's a song for you. Probably the best song Cari Lekenbusch has ever produced called> De Sju Skenande Kompressorerna it's on the cd HPCD10 track 22 (Cari Lekebusch -DET JAG VET) Oops im a trainspotter though... If anybody nows where i can get

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread debonair
yes, but bauhaus became ikea - a cheap imitation of the original...out.bond - Original Message - From: "darw_n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, September 29

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Nick Walsh
rsonally felt swedish techno was always > missing something...I don't > want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk' as thats a > bit harsh, but something > just a stop short or it. > > d > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Cyclone Wehner
>>Also it's not material that >> you can listen to in different environments necessarily, like on a walkman >> in the tram/bus. > > >I disagree... Well maybe some do - I find it easy to listen to progressive trance when I work as it doesn't distract me though I don't dig it at all. But many would

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Diana Potts
Ive personally felt swedish techno was always missing something...I don't want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk' as thats a bit harsh, but something just a stop short or it. d From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperr

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread debonair
the swedes produced volvos, prototype airline stewards, absolut, abba, bjorn borg all these people/ entities were successful, methodical, efficient, but people are people, we have to feed our souls, and swedish techno went out with fad diets..for that guy [child] to say

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread darw_n
>Also it's not material that > you can listen to in different environments necessarily, like on a walkman > in the tram/bus. I disagree... > Also I doubt if anyone aside from a > trainspotter could recognise or name a track by either those guys or > Christian Smith - it's very anonymous. I sta

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Mediadrome
What's the best place to start for Swedish Techno. A few CD's please. thanks mediadrome

Re: [313] Swedish Techno

2000-09-28 Thread Nick Walsh
> As DJ tool material, it's OK, but > maybe people are not > using it very adventurously. Also I doubt if anyone > aside from a > trainspotter could recognise or name a track by > either those guys or > Christian Smith - it's very anonymous. It's not like hmmm... if the truth beknown I've got quit