res in electronic
> music, his last book "The Age Of Spiritual Machines" is an excellent read.
>
> Sorry for yet another rant.
>
> Take care,
> Mike
>
>
>
>> From: "M Elliot-Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
&g
Wow. You try to rise up, and they keep trying
to knock you back down...
That's interesting, but I think you may have that
certain artist confused with someone else, like
the kind of 'artist' that rolls up to Forans w
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From: "Mike Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Alan Kurzweil(former
ectronic
music, his last book "The Age Of Spiritual Machines" is an excellent read.
Sorry for yet another rant.
Take care,
Mike
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they fell off when they stopped using the old standbys. It is a
5 minute game, isn't it?
From: Glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:35
Do you like the music? Then what the f~ck does it matter how they go about
bringing it to you.
then what's the point of playing live at all? If the performance side of a
live performance artist doesn't really matter, then all we should have to
bring is a DAT, plug it in to the main board,
computer is lame, you aren't saying anything
about me, or my live set. Thank you very much.
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From: Dale Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That's my point, the reason a lot of electronic music producers do
lives is because people are used to go see live artists, and they >expect
performing skills.
People, in general, also expect the 'look' of someone performing (ie.
strumming the strings of a guitar, pressing down on the keys of
> >>so. To perform live I have to put everything in the computer (I'm not
moving
> >my whole studio) and the result is much worse than the original.
> >WHY DO IT THEN ?
That's my point, the reason a lot of electronic music producers do lives is
because people are used to go see live artists, and
Yikes!!! Less skill than pop huh? (or opera ) ...
..
>In other words, good thing about electronic music is that it comes from your
>heart and your mind right to the computer, with much less skill involved
>than, let's say, opera or pop.
>
>>so. To perform live I have to put everything in th
get about the pop/rock stereotype, electronic music is different
daweed
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>This puts the audience much more in the dark in terms of what is
>actually
>hap
or maybe its the fact
> that as live artists we just haven't given the crowd what they want.
any
> ideas?
last year titonton did.
ryan
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olves both problems. (setting up/crowd satisfaction and
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-Pete
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From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This puts the audience much more in the dark in terms of what is >actually
happening on stage but it's just as live nonetheless (and >easier to
setup!).
see, and this is something i actually disagree with. I think it is *very*
important for the audience to recieve visual cues to the music
ou very much.
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From: Dale Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, playing off of DAT *is* blasphemy, and
> here's a question: why do so few live pa's do this? Of the ones that i've
> seen that actually *do* play live, i still see many of them with fully
> sequenced songs. the only thing they do is is twiddle a few knobs. I mean,
> if you're not going to play that way, why not play off of dat?
>
>
I read an interview with Richie Hawtin on Final Scratch in Urb and it states
that Jeff Mills and John Digweed have signed on for prototypes. I would love
to see how Mills uses it just as I have seen his DJ sets a few times in
different environments and he always intrigues me (alas, only seen Richie
I would like to state that i totally agree with dale, and he made a very
mature and solid arguement in this post.
If you knew anything about Plus 8 artists,
you would know that every single Live P.A.
by any Plus 8 artist, anywhere, was 100%
Yes, playing off of DAT *is* blasphemy, and
that's why I would never consider it.
That is one of the most inaccurate things I've
ever seen written about me and now I am going
to tell you why:
1) I've n
Ah yes.
It takes quite a bit to stir me from my lurker-slumber. But you can pat
yourself on the back, Mr. Burns - you got me here.
Your post was so asinine and without merit that I can honestly say that you
sir... you are a putz of the greatest magnitude. Being a guest to many a
performance of Da
Dale, i thought it was "Blashpemy" when you did a live pa at demf and all
you did was play pre recorded stuff off dat.
nobody said *gasp* "oh no technology is threadening my livelihood". from
what ive seen mixing off computer is lame. just like when your supossed to
play and all you do is hi
If I were Richie Hawtin I would take the cut and edit thing even further by
using incongruous tracks that techno purists would never expect to hear, to
make the 'untechno' 'techno', like Kylie Minogue or, better, Mariah Carey -
her vocals are amazing, you could sample them and twist them around edi
et it was !
todd had loads of new material that i hadn't heard him play @ DEMF this
year
-pete
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From: Dale Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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this should really be in a magazine somewhere... a website essay/bulletin,
something.
Mike
From: Dale Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] fuel to the fire : was "hawtin hawtin everywhere"
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:15:10 -0400
|do you really think the people that
|embrace the new tools, are simply trying to recreate
|what the people with the old tools were doing 12, to
|20 years ago? Absolutely not. If that were the
|case, just go buy a drum set, or learn to play the
|guitar, or even buy an 808 or 909 drum machine...
|
I have to agree with you. It seems whenever a new
technology is introduced, the status quo immediately
feels threatened by it and does everything in its
power to slag it--methodically. The funny part
is that usually
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