RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-06-07 Thread stephen
for me it was techno at age 13, i was really not into music before then. what got me into music was playing around with a casio sk1 that i got for my birthday and i was sampling music from the radio when i came across an alternative-industrial show on a community radio station. the dj played 808 s

RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-06-06 Thread Gwendal Cobert
for me it was good old rock'n roll... especially indie rock, all the Madchester scene from the late 80's, in particular Andrew Weatherall producing the Primal Scream's "Loaded" title... then the Sabres of Paradise, then the whole English electronica scene (Aphex Twin, Autechre etc), then the lesser

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-27 Thread Cesium5Hz
In a message dated 27/05/00 3:20:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > n message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] messed around with filters and compression to > make the sounds now known as: > >>I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. > > > > >Speedy J?

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-27 Thread Tom Lawton
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jorge Velez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> messed around with filters and compression to make the sounds now known as: >> >>I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via >>hip-hop. >> >Speedy J? >> >Ben Sims? >> >(not sure about Ben...) >>Dave Clarke >Aut

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-05-27 Thread Sanderson Dear
or was it strictly a compilation thing? From: "e&a rinon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FC3 Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Sanderson Dear'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] industrial vs.

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-05-27 Thread e&a rinon
-Original Message- From: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Sanderson Dear' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; '313@hyperreal.org' <313@hyperreal.org> Date: Saturday, 27 May 2000 11:48 Subject: RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop >if i remember right Mini

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-05-27 Thread Counterforce - Lay
Haye! > a conversation that started between dave "the wave" dresden and i @ wmc this > year centered around how people got into the scene, and i started an > informal poll while i was down there. ratio? about 60% industrial, 40% > hip hop. > > and one - neither. neither? his answer - heavy m

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-27 Thread Counterforce - Lay
Haye! > I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. > Except for Shake. Techno, at least Detroit Techno, is the antithesis of > hip-hop to me, Ghettotech notwithstanding =\ *** Rolando? Lay Unconditional Empowerment http://barkingcat.org/counterforce

RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-05-27 Thread FC3 Richards
t; Subject: Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop > > best mutation of hip-hop IMO is "dig it" by skinny puppy. > i confess i've been a fan since the remission ep... if i'm asked i'll > tota

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-26 Thread Jorge Velez
From: Tom Lawton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Detroit Techno Mailing List <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 20:18:35 +0100 In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] messed aroun

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-26 Thread Tom Lawton
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] messed around with filters and compression to make the sounds now known as: >>I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. > >Speedy J? > >Ben Sims? >(not sure about Ben...) > Dave Clarke was a hip-hop DJ before he tur

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-05-26 Thread hans kaufmann
I really like this, can we have a seven degreees of Techno game? I choose Punk & Hardcore. I was in Germany at a giant open air fest called Strange Noise in the Black Forest in Germany to see a couple Hardcore bands (Snapcase and Rikers I believe) The first night was a big silly rave party. I k

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2000-05-26 Thread James Bucknell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05/25/2000 10:37:02 PM To: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: "'detroit science'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> (bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: RE: [313] in

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-26 Thread Cyclone Wehner
So far no one has mentioned what to me is one of the most overlooked bands ever: Propaganda! A German outfit that put out two albums on Trevor Horn's ZTT (including a remix album, Wishful Thinking) in the mid-80s and did the song Dr Mabuse. This record still sounds ace. And they had industrial/tec

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-05-26 Thread Seth Redmond
Indie music; New Order, Primal scream, Andy Weatherall, and (you're all gonna hate me for this one) Oakenfold's remixes of the Happy Mondays. That and seeing Orbital live for the first time. Oh and I'm from liverpool, so I shouldn't miss out "Groovy Train" by The Farm, ...ha ha ha Not as unusu

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-05-26 Thread Sanderson Dear
best mutation of hip-hop IMO is "dig it" by skinny puppy. i confess i've been a fan since the remission ep... if i'm asked i'll totally disavow any knowledge of this admission. ;) sanderson Get Your Private, Free E-mail

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-26 Thread detroit science
>I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. ummm, actually it was a little bit more of a general "scene" question than specifically techno - more dance music in general. and, i realize that breaking it down to industrial or hip hop oversimplified the issue, b

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-26 Thread dobyrush
>I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. Speedy J? Ben Sims? (not sure about Ben...)

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-26 Thread DJT1000
In a message dated 5/25/00 8:40:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << a conversation that started between dave "the wave" dresden and i @ wmc > this > year centered around how people got into the scene, and i started an > informal poll while i was down there. ratio? about 60% industrial, 40%

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-05-26 Thread GMO
> a conversation that started between dave "the wave" dresden and i @ wmc this > year centered around how people got into the scene, and i started an > informal poll while i was down there. ratio? about 60% industrial, 40% > hip hop. > > and one - neither. neither? his answer - heavy metal.

RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-26 Thread Emma Groube
twas written: > learned alot from that CD. I still have a copy. and i am looking for a > copy on vinyl. The Claude Young, K-Hand, Stacy Pullen, and Shake tracks are > pure genius. I have tried and tried to get it on vinyl and have been told that it isn't available on vinyl and that it wasn't ev

RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks

2000-05-26 Thread FC3 Richards
i am somewhere in between industrial and finding a suprise in the record store. i was at a Harmony House in Flint (the one on miller road if anyone cares) looking through thier industrial and electronic music CD's. that is where i stumbled up a cd called Detroit: Beyond the Third Wave...it kinda

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-05-25 Thread James Bucknell
neither--heroin got me into the scene. in 1987 i overcame a four year heroin adiction. but even after the withdrawls were over i couldn't sleep at night. so to keep myself entertained and my mind off other matters i went out to dance clubs. they were playing house music and i pretty much swapped

Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop vs. beepy euro-fag?

2000-05-25 Thread tristan watkins
I think you'd have to include what I affectionately call the "beepy euro-fag" genre. A lot of the gay club scene moved towards house, trance and techno in the 90s (before I get flamed I know there were many gay clubs representing deeper sounds), and there seems to be some crossover in attendance be