Odeluga, Ken wrote:
> It's always bemusing to realize how NARROW people are! First they want it
> ALL harder harder, faster faster, no chords, no melodies, no vocals - now
> it's gotta be a particular type of venue, perhaps with a particular type of
> regular clientelle ... What next? Floor plan
Phonopsia wrote:
> Don't we want to see our favorite DJs in a setting
> packed with purists who are all going nuts? Isn't this what made those
> after-hours at DEMF 2 so special this year - in direct counterpoint to the
> festival itself?
Absolutely. Even though the HFF (High-Fidelity-Factor) of
e dashed too often.
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I'm with Nicole on this one. The London techno scene is dying a dea
Im with Nicole on this one. The London techno scene is dying a death. There
s only about 3 or so half decent techno nights going on & even then it
could be so much better. Its either hard loops to bang yer head against the
wall to or this tech house malarkey which was alright to start off with b
From: Samuel Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [313] Jeff Mills stars again
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:22:17 -0800 (PST)
I can't imagine a painter being forced to express him/herself using only
green. i can't expect a writer to be able to express her/himself only
using v
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>> In conclusion, I'll leave you with this thought. Wouldn't you rather
have
>> Jeff as the biggest DJ in the world as compared to Oakie, Jules, Sasha,
>> Diggers, and the rest of them tha
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> I think you're off the mark with Bugged Out - I've only been to Bugged Out
> at Nation once and it had a great line-up (hence me travelling from London
> to go to it) with a super
> "looped bangers" - now there's an expression!
well it's fairly accurate wouldn't you say?
of course it's a massive generalisation, which you'll have to excuse :)
robin...
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I think you're off the mark with Bugged Out - I've only been to Bugged Out
at Nation once and it had a great line-up (hence me travelling from London
to go to it) with a superb atmosphere and Bugged Out nights at Fabric were
the best nights they had there.
What is
more, clubs like Orbit, Voodoo,
> "looped bangers" - now there's an expression!
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> > Yeah, Jeff playing a house set was what we heard last year - amazing. It was
> > very diverse, still very Mills, it wasn't like he busted out Groovejet. He
> > played techno, electro, all kinds of cool things. I think he even played
> > Moodymann? Because it was in a club environment a lot of
> Yeah, Jeff playing a house set was what we heard last year - amazing. It was
> very diverse, still very Mills, it wasn't like he busted out Groovejet. He
> played techno, electro, all kinds of cool things. I think he even played
> Moodymann? Because it was in a club environment a lot of differen
A few years ago Jeff Mills said he would never play again in Amsterdam after
he had some bad experiences there. He didn't play there for about one year,
now he plays on a regualr basis on really hughe parties around Amsterdam...
Just wait and see what happens,
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> in terms of c
> In conclusion, I'll leave you with this thought. Wouldn't you rather have
> Jeff as the biggest DJ in the world as compared to Oakie, Jules, Sasha,
> Diggers, and the rest of them that seem to get ink every month in Mixmag,
> Ministry, and Muzik?
unless he changes what he plays that just ain't
yourself by discovering how many public school types
there are in most crowds of tech-heads ...
By the way Sunship ... I make that number 50.
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> That's what I was trying to raise. That depends on the nature of 'techno'
> clubs in the UK. There are some great techno clubs in the UK, I am sure,
>By opting for the expensive, commercial end of the industry, Mills is
>neglecting the promoters and fans who have fought long and hard to convince
>him to return to England.
>
>To suggest that this is about the gender bias in clubs is naieve,
>ill-informed bullshit.
It's actually coming from
Sorry, but how many of these clubs have you actually been to?
Not only does the Orbit have a fine sound system, and facilities which
elicit few complaints; most importantly it has a crowd who have a clue. Who
go to see the DJ rather than to say they've been to Fabric / Bugged Out /
Whatever,
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>I can't really see what all the fuss is about to be
imental - a HipHop set from him would be)
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> So now we&#x
itable Temple To Techno - and Drum & Bass & Speed Garage & Nu
School Breax h strangely, not Euro-Trance though ... :o)
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I think that even if most of us have issues with taking out our frustrations
about techno-accepatance-at-large on Jeff Mills, we can understand Paul's
frustration that his favortie DJ is (supposedly) turning his back on
underground venues in his home country after a three year absence. Isn't
this t
made to Mr Mills' prediliction to play in any particular type of club by any
>such 'pronouncement' (if he did indeed make it) that he will now, only play
>in 'House Clubs'.
>
>Business as usual then Jeff, great.
>
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>> >>
>> >> if he wasn't so far up his own arse as to believe his
>> >> m
y play
in 'House Clubs'.
Business as usual then Jeff, great.
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>>so why
gay scene,
ravers, house heads, techno kids, everyone.
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>Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 5:09 PM
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>on 1/28/02 12:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>if he wasn't so far up his own arse as to believe his
>music isn't techno anymore then maybe we'd all get
>this chance.
>
>wasn't he the one who said
>"techno is whatever you want it to be.."
>
>so why is he now restricting himself to house clubs?
Maybe because the UK definition of techno ha
It's not just a question of restricting his playing to "house clubs," is it?
It looks like he's decided to focus on just a couple clubs, likely
because the money is good and the hassles are limited. Anyone who has
played out as a DJ knows the latter is maybe even more of a factor, what
with crappe
What is this?! A judgemental Jeff Mills thread on 313
*in a southern evangilistic voice*
... Dear Lordie look upon my inbox in this time of
great need, and guide it through this difficult time
of numerous Emails about the judging of other men's
choices who they may not know first hand.
Amen.
so why is he now restricting himself to house clubs?
why are we restricting clubs to one style or the other?
this is the first I've heard of Jeff 's announcement, but I'm sure
he'd shake things up no matter what the label hanging outside the
club.
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(sigh) oh my...weeks, months of lurking and suddenly there's two topics in
the course of one week I feel the need to add my .02.
While to some it may appear that Jeff is 'selling out' or 'turning his back
on
glyph
>
> >>
> >>
> >> so why is he now restricting himself to house clubs?
> >>
> >
> > To you, they're house clubsto him they're places to wreak havoc in.
=)
> > I think we just need to remain calm and see what happens.
> >
> > Pea
a man is free to do what he wants to.. we shouldnt judge anyone..
and one sugestion.. take the humana ep from your bag, and listen to
gammaplayer one more time..
let this man spin britney spears if he feels like to...
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off his rocker
but then as he explained himself, I gradually understood.
Frankly, I believe its up to his audi
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off his rocker
but then as he explained himself, I gradually understood.
Frankly, I believe its up to hi
OH, I'm not feeling this one. What do you or people you've spoken to
know about what made Jeff who he is? This all "keepin' it real" stuff is
extremely annoying. Its another way of keeping a man back from his
potential and achievements. In other words, Playa-hatin'! Look, before
living in De
e who said
"techno is whatever you want it to be.."
so why is he now restricting himself to house clubs?
paul
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>
> pure arrogance (again)
>
>
it's seems more a kind of childish offendednes on your part to me.
mills has to repay me? i'm not even sure if i have to repay him. all
this repaying business seems very odd to me.
now don't take this too seriously and do still send me the records i
ordered from
While this is surely dissapointing for those in the UK, don't forget he
hasn't played in the US outside of NYC (a handful of times) and Detroit
(twice?) over the last few years if I'm not mistaken. He's a hard man to see
outside of continental Europe.
Tristan
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This is quite an interesting subject, a subject he spoke about quite
vehemently at Musikundmaschine last year during a breakfast/brunch
session, courtesy of Axis. Sitting across from me and plus other
journalists, the distinguished man went on in a rant about how tired he
is of it all. Tired
I doubt if Jeff would turn his back on 'techno'. If indeed this report is
the case (things get convoluted), then I think you'll find he just wants to
play venues where he can play the 'unexpected' which is, after all, his idea
of 'techno'? He enjoys playing more intimate venues and has said as much
>simple reply of course is for all us to turn our back
>to him and stop buying his music and going to his
>club dates. it works both ways.
there are several DJs and producers who deserve this treatment but it
seldom, if ever, happens
I know some people in detroit that can't forgive Mills for, a
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