Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Like I'm going to take time to do that from a tropical beach paradise. No tellings off for anyone who says club PAs need sorting anyway. Or in the UK anyway (if you're coming to the B I think you might like the ones there :-) Original Message: - From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-06 Thread Guilherme Menegon Arantes
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 10:20:51AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm not really up my on physics, but if you zoom in far enough into an analog > recording at a subatomic level aren't there discrete steps (or does it just > keep going?) The Quantum Mechanics of Recording. Anyone? Sounds like a

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread /0
the difference is like comparing a strobe like to a fluorescent light. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing] I'm not really up my on physics, but i

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread JT Stewart
> To me, this whole concept of : "the music associated to a physical > object makes it better" does not hold. well, that's not my argument. the object does not make the music itself any better or worse. it is just a vessel that contains more cultural artifacts and other contextual/background infor

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread Michael Pujos
JT Stewart a écrit : the access to music that digital files allow and all that is great when viewed narrowly -- valuing the music only and disregarding context. but it is inarguably a deeper experience which allows deeper understanding to hold a record/tape/cd in your hands than to have a digita

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread JT Stewart
there are, but they have infinitely varying shapes, intervals, etc, as opposed to digital, which is made of identical little blocks, if you will. On Jan 4, 2008 11:20 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not really up my on physics, but if you zoom in far enough into an analog > recording at a su

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread kent williams
A needle wiggling in a groove is a continuous function of the original signal. A digital recording is a a digital piecewise approximation. In the end it doesn't really matter -- to my ears it all sounds good when the music itself is good. On Jan 4, 2008 10:20 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread carlile
I'm not really up my on physics, but if you zoom in far enough into an analog recording at a subatomic level aren't there discrete steps (or does it just keep going?) -Jim Quoting JT Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > if you recorded at a super high bitrate, it would be pretty dang > close. but still

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread JT Stewart
totally right benoit, excellent point...although i do personally know some people who lay it down in the studio onto tape with little to no digital in the mix, but that's besides the point. the important question is whether the difference is significant, which comes down to psychoacousticsdepen

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread Benoît Pueyo
JT Stewart a écrit : if you recorded at a super high bitrate, it would be pretty dang close. but still, what you would have is a snapshot, translated into 0's and 1's. at the micro scale, all the soft edges in an analog record get turned into jagged edges..the sound is necessarily altered during

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread robin
@robin yes yes of course, that's your preference. trust me, your resignation to the disappearance of vinyl from your life does not represent the world. Absolutely. There's plenty of room for misinterpretation here - I'm just presenting a point of view that's common. As it happens I hold two

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread JT Stewart
> 0's and 1's. at the micro scale, all the soft edges in an analog > record recording, doh

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread JT Stewart
if you recorded at a super high bitrate, it would be pretty dang close. but still, what you would have is a snapshot, translated into 0's and 1's. at the micro scale, all the soft edges in an analog record get turned into jagged edges..the sound is necessarily altered during the analog-to-digital c

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread Martin Dust
You know, like there's so much silence comes from an mp3/laptop that you can't hear the music... Brilliant, reminds me of this: "Beans, in cans, how handy is that." Bez m

RE: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread pauley
Not even needing the hiss or crackle, just the atmosphere created by the surface, the sound of the space created by the needle/record/platter motor. A deep rumble. Laptop performances in clubs make the place space feel very empty, like being in a vacuum and needing to pop your ears, or surrounded b

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread robin
Perhaps playing a silent record is going to far :) ... but it's a fair point. Still, if your file's digitized from vinyl you would get all the benefits of the medium in the audio quality too, I guess? I've never had any comment that the sound coming from my laptop is any different to that c

RE: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread Nik Stoltzman
Yeah, but an mp3 of vinyl crackle would be a compressed, digital approximation of the analogue source, so (assuming this argument holds water) would still sound less 'warm' than a slab of vinyl with nothing but, err, hiss and crackle on it. Like some uber-mnml m-nus release ;) But anyway, this

RE: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Perhaps playing a silent record is going to far :) ... but it's a fair point. Still, if your file's digitized from vinyl you would get all the benefits of the medium in the audio quality too, I guess? -Original Message- From: pauley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2008 13:35 T