Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread Jayson B.
- the information in the pictures on the DEMF-page is currently transporting the same conclusion - and this is wrong information - this is what I was saying what makes this information wrong? what "facts" do you have to support that it is wrong? _

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread yussel
Actually- from issues 25-90, Urb featured minority artist (mostly black) on 33 out of 65 covers. That's over 50% you can see them at www.urb.com /click: back issues ironically, according the the US census burea, 75% of the population is white. and richie's only been on the cover once.

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread neon tse tse
> how do *you* know the reason why he is popular is because he's white? > No, he´s not popular, because of that - Mr Hawtin deserves some respect for his work, for sure But others do deserve the same respect - so we should take care that no one is KING of the tendency to lift Richie so

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2002-04-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how do *you* know the reason why he is popular is because he's white? because we take the time to think/study the world at a level that goes beyond the superficial...because we look at the world with a critical eye..because we care enough about humanity to study/learn/understand concepts of i

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread kyle jay
die, thread, die. dead. done. > why is he the most popular dj on the world ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread Jayson B.
am 30.04.2002 0:47 Uhr schrieb Jayson B. unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in detroit. very interesting - how do you know that ? what are your facts, making you say this ? why is it that when someone asks you a question, that yo

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread neon tse tse
am 30.04.2002 0:47 Uhr schrieb Jayson B. unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in detroit. very interesting - how do you know that ? what are your facts, making you say this ? --

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread neon tse tse
why is he the most popular dj on the world ? > --someone wrote: > > because he is the most popular techno dj in the world. > > --someone wrote: > >> so again we need to enter the question: >> >> why is he on so many photos ? >> >> >>> >>> 5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website a

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-29 Thread Jayson B.
Yes, Richie Hatwin is a serious good artist, but why is he the "far more popular" one ? because he's far more accessable, along with his music. because his ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in detroit. That point in itself is extremely difficult to dispute.

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-29 Thread yussel
oh- i COMPLETELY agree that there should be other artists photos on the site. i found it thoroughly pathetic that PCM used photos of artist who have publicly dismissed them (Hawtin and May) but i sensed this thread going into another black/white debate, which i don't think anyone is in the mood

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-29 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
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Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-29 Thread neon tse tse
that´s all fine with me, though I couldn´t flip as you do bout certain "coca cola"-aspects - still the question was: "why is he the MORE popular" ? many of the things you mentioned would fit to many different individual Detroit artists - the way you pronounced it also gives me the impression

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-29 Thread yussel
1. Richie Hawtin is more popular because he's a marketing genius. 2. The Plastikman logo is an icon. Just like Coca-Cola logo. 3. He ran an extremely successful recordlabel (+8) that didn't limit itself to strictly Detroit, therefore it had more sucess outside of Detroit. 4. Spaztik is perhaps

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-29 Thread neon tse tse
Yes, Richie Hatwin is a serious good artist, but why is he the "far more popular" one ? because he´s "the best" ? do you believe in "the best" ? is it possible he´s "far more popular", because he also is on so many photos, jpgs, maybe ? so again we need to enter the question: why is he on so

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-29 Thread Jayson B.
5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of richie whitewashing at it's finest *angry beyond measure* if it was 5 different white artists, then maybe i can understand. But if all five are of Richie, then i don't think this is whitewashing in the SLIGHTEST. Say what you want, b

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-29 Thread yussel
beyond whitewashing, hawtin was the first artist to publicly chastise PCM after carl craig's firing. yet they continue to trade on his image. talk about a lack of self-respect on PCM's part. On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > 5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of r

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-29 Thread Dan Sicko
now now ... it seems obvious to me that they had pictures left from last year. I'm assuming Derrick asked to have his pictures taken down. I don't think there's a conspiracy amid the JPEGs. ;) -d At 1:42 PM -0400 4/29/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website

Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-29 Thread neon tse tse
yeah, the mirror-image for the middleclass ... oops I did it again > > 5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of richie > > > whitewashing at it's finest > > > *angry beyond measure* > > -k > > > mail2web - Check

[313] Deepchord at DEMF Re: [313] DEMF mistake

2002-04-23 Thread Mike Taylor
: glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] DEMF mistake Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 07:31:54 -0400 Yeah, I guess so. They're still posted on the official demf site as a live act and also on deepchord's own website

Re: [313] DEMF mistake

2002-04-22 Thread glyph1001
From: glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 12:39 PM To: 313 Subject: Re: [313] DEMF mistake Chad Novak Gene Farris Dave Angel -was contacted but had prior e

RE: [313] DEMF mistake

2002-04-22 Thread Grammenos, Peter
What about deep chord? Are they still doing a live set -Original Message- From: glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 12:39 PM To: 313 Subject:Re: [313] DEMF

Re: [313] DEMF mistake

2002-04-21 Thread glyph1001
Chad Novak Gene Farris Dave Angel -was contacted but had prior engagements Kevin Saunderson DJ Shadow Sarena Tyler X-Excutioners Black Eyed Peas Roni Size - was contacted but had prior engagements Drexciya Rob Hood - contact was attempted but no response g. Trevor Wilkes wrote: I seem to rec

Re: [313] DEMF mistake

2002-04-21 Thread Trevor Wilkes
I seem to recall Dave Angel as well...last i checked he wasn't there anymore. Trevor Wilkes - Original Message - From: "kenneth taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: [313] DEMF mistake > Hey- > > Can someone repost the names th

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-19 Thread yussel
that's it. me and you, at the bike racks after school =P On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Moe Fuzz wrote: > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Moe Fuzz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >i know this isn't proper list etiquette, but you are WRONG!!! ;) > >laurents set at all access was incredible. in a brief 2 hours

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-19 Thread Moe Fuzz
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Moe Fuzz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> i know this isn't proper list etiquette, but you are WRONG!!! ;) laurents set at all access was incredible. in a brief 2 hours he took the crowd across the entire spectrum of house and techno. yet it never felt rushed or crammed in. It

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-19 Thread Matthew MacQueen
just for clarification I am talking about Laurent below (not Common Factor). sorry... -Original Message- From: Matthew MacQueen Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:08 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties > laurents set at all access

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-19 Thread Matthew MacQueen
> laurents set at all access was incredible. in a brief 2 hours he took the > crowd across the entire spectrum of house and techno. yet it never felt > rushed or crammed in. at the point when he finished, i would have given my > right arm for another 2 hours. fortuneately, common factor was amazing

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-19 Thread Matthew MacQueen
>>Laurent Garnier played Planet E's All Access party last year. And slew all >>present I might add. > Laurent's set was pretty good for a while, but I was bored after the first > hour. I thought his set was way too long. Common Factor and Carl Craig > were more interesting imho. I wish Carl'

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-19 Thread yussel
i know this isn't proper list etiquette, but you are WRONG!!! ;) laurents set at all access was incredible. in a brief 2 hours he took the crowd across the entire spectrum of house and techno. yet it never felt rushed or crammed in. at the point when he finished, i would have given my right arm fo

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-19 Thread Moe Fuzz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laurent Garnier played Planet E's All Access party last year. And slew all present I might add. Laurent's set was pretty good for a while, but I was bored after the first hour. I thought his set was way too long. Common Factor and Carl Craig were more interesting im

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-18 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
can eat and sleep at home, they're probably free to play where they please throughout the weekend. Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.magicmattkelly.com - Original Message - From: "J. T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday,

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-18 Thread Hans Veneman
> > Can someone start putting these up on a website somewhere? I > > believe the > > techno tourist guys did it last year. Please Please ;) > > Depending on when the > > after parties are , I'll book my trip accordingly. > > We are working on it, for now we put up the afterparties in our 'Events' >

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-18 Thread Lorie
- Original Message - From: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties <> First of all, I never said they share the cost of hotels. I know for a fact that some times peop

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-18 Thread Jayson B.
I am sure there is a lot of sharing going on (flight and stuff) with DEMF and the Afterparties. no, there's not. If a promoter signs a dj to a gig exclusively, why would they share the costs of flight and hotels with another promoter that the dj isn't supposed to be playing for? So if y

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-18 Thread Lorie
- Original Message - From: "J. T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> <> I never said artists @ demf play for free. I have no clue if they play for free. <> Its not snide to me, its fun. 313@hyperreal.org is fun. funfunfun. Actually I just wanted to join in.. in the bitching..

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-18 Thread J. T.
of sharing going on (flight and stuff) with DEMF and the Afterparties. So if you ever throw a FREE event.. where the artists play for FREE... try HAHA!! DOH!! the artists do not play for free!! that was just a surprise from pcm..."o you thought you were getting a paycheck?" jt btw its p

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-18 Thread lorie
<<- Original Message - From: "(Truth Be Told)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From the standpoint of the consumer it's great but I'm just pointing out a (any) organizations point of view having booked some people in the past. They would NOT be playing in my city the same weekend of my event.>> That

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-18 Thread J. T.
also dont forget a lot of people who perform both at demf and at afterparties, are from detroit! so no hotels or plane tickets or any of that to worry about. jt _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.c

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-18 Thread Dan Sicko
At 8:37 AM -0400 4/18/2002, Dan Sicko wrote: isn't this why artists perform under multiple pseudonyms? or *another* reason why they do, I should say ... outside of record label contracts. :) -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-18 Thread Dan Sicko
s booked an >artist (non us) for several events in the us.. I am sure costs are shared. Am >I wrong? Im not a *super promoter* or anything.. so I may be. -L - Original Message - From: "(Truth Be Told)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Cc: <[EMA

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-18 Thread (Truth Be Told)
"(Truth Be Told)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties makes sense to who? Sure, the person attending the pa

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread Kevin
<313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 1989 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties > i remember hearing this too, so you're not crazy > > > > >Where did you hear this? It makes sense to me that some of the artists > play > > >@ the afterparties sin

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread yussel
ECTED]>, "'Grammenos, Peter'" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties > >Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:05:37 -0400 > > > >Where did you hear this? It makes sense to me that so

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread yussel
I know they tried to do that, but its never been enforced. Think about how many parties Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson played last year (2-3 each) while still playing the festival. I've heard from several ppl that the reason Farina didn't play was because PCM never got his flights/hotel/contract

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties / Adam Beyer

2002-04-17 Thread Michael D Tyrer
- Original Message - From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 03:57 Subject: [313] DEMF Afterparties > > Can someone start putting these up on a website somewhere? I believe the > techno tourist guys did it last year. Pl

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread Lorie
To: <313@hyperreal.org> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties Makes sense to who? Sure, the person attending the party but if I've paid for flights and work visas

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread scotto you know
menos, Peter'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:05:37 -0400 Where did you hear this? It makes sense to me that some of the artists play @ the afterparties since they are in

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread (Truth Be Told)
and not have to pay airfare, hotel, visa, etc. to bring someone from overseas or elsewhere. Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:05:37 -0400 To: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Grammenos, Peter'" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'313'&quo

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread diana potts
I believe official statements from Farina's people were issued regarding the situation. I don't remember exactly what they said, so I won't post anything. If you really gotta know Dennis, I'd try Emailing someone at Ohm (I believe that's who the statement came from). diana --- atomly <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread atomly
[Dennis Donohue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Makes sense to me as well ;). It's just that I heard the reason for > Mark Farina's not playing the DEMF, was due to his commitment to an > after-party. I was searching for the validity of that statement :) Maybe the contract with the afterparty was exclu

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread Kao Jyan
i remember hearing this too, so you're not crazy > >Where did you hear this? It makes sense to me that some of the artists play > >@ the afterparties since they are in town. > > Makes sense to me as well ;). It's just that I heard the reason for Mark > Farina's not playing the DEMF, was due to h

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread Dennis Donohue
earching for the validity of that statement :) Thanks Dennis - Original Message - From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties I thought there was a clause in the contract for the DEMF that stated, an artist playing the DEMF was not all

Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread Lorie
Where did you hear this? It makes sense to me that some of the artists play @ the afterparties since they are in town. Lorie - Original Message - From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties I thought there was a clause in the contr

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
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RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread Grammenos, Peter
here is the rest of the info : Porter Street 1400 Porter St. 10 till late price - TBC -Pete -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:05 AM To: Grammenos, Peter; '313' Subject: RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties >

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread Dennis Donohue
>Viktor of Tronic Treatment just sent me his after party list for this year. >He's having two this year : >Advent >Steve Rachmad >Marco Carola I thought there was a clause in the contract for the DEMF that stated, an artist playing the DEMF was not allowed to appear at an after party? Wasn't

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread Grammenos, Peter
-Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:05 AM To: Grammenos, Peter; '313' Subject: RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties > Can someone start putting these up on a website somewhere? I > believe the > techno touri

RE: [313] DEMF Afterparties

2002-04-17 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
> Can someone start putting these up on a website somewhere? I > believe the > techno tourist guys did it last year. Please Please ;) > Depending on when the > after parties are , I'll book my trip accordingly. We are working on it, for now we put up the afterparties in our 'Events' section. G

Re: [313] demf poster

2002-04-16 Thread Kevin
Hehe. I think they should add: " 'Get your Rave on' - Carol Marvin" Kevin - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: [313] demf poster > this is pretty funny > > > ww

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-15 Thread Cyclone Wehner
s phenomenon of celebrities DJing - Courtney Love, Lil' Kim - quite fascinating. -- >From: Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy &g

Re: [313] DEMF 2002 poster - yikes.

2002-04-15 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
] Web Site: http://www.magicmattkelly.com - Original Message - From: "Matthew Mangold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: [313] DEMF 2002 poster - yikes. > This is the most horrible t

RE: [313] DEMF 2002 poster - yikes.

2002-04-15 Thread Matthew Mangold
Giles Dickerson Subject: RE: [313] DEMF 2002 poster http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/poster12_20020412.htm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [313] DEMF afterparties

2002-04-15 Thread stewart
lt;313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [313] DEMF afterparties > At 2:59 PM -0200 4/15/2002, henrique casanova wrote: > >what reasons would the police have to cancel these partys?? > > > >im just curious. we live in very diferent worlds in

Re: [313] DEMF afterparties

2002-04-15 Thread Dan Sicko
At 2:59 PM -0200 4/15/2002, henrique casanova wrote: what reasons would the police have to cancel these partys?? im just curious. we live in very diferent worlds in this list. i'm never heard about a party being closed by the police here in brazil. depends on the venue, right? I only hit Pla

Re: [313] DEMF afterparties

2002-04-15 Thread henrique casanova
what reasons would the police have to cancel these partys?? im just curious. we live in very diferent worlds in this list. i'm never heard about a party being closed by the police here in brazil. > -- Mensagem original --- > > De : Gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Para: 313@h

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-15 Thread yussel
i agree. there is definately a gap due to carl's lack of participation. but also, even if all the big Detroit guys get paid their standard fee, then that's still not nearly as expensive as last year with flying in dozens of international artist. also, i'm quite certain that the first DEMF lost qu

RE: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-15 Thread Dan Sicko
excuse me everyone, but T-1000 is not a mid-tier DJ. He is a high caliber DJ. I think that everyone here should be happy that this is coming off and people like PVD and PO and all these other Trance eating mofo's aren't showing up. This could have turned into total crap. heh ... you definite

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-15 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy > I wanna know why my fave Lil' Kim ain't pla

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-15 Thread Catherine Eberhardt
Even if DEMF line up fails, don't get your hopes down, there's always the after parties... Well wait a second, I have only heard about 2 so far, am I missing something> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/14/02 23:21 PM >>> So what you are saying is Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Jesus Chri

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-15 Thread Cyclone Wehner
me if Kim is added to the bill. Now! -- >From: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeffrey Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [313] demf "contracting" policy >Date: Mon, 15 Apr

RE: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-15 Thread FC3 Richards
ling ya'll a bunch of little kids, but i felt it had to be dones. Peace Jeff ps...how is that for drama, Steve?? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 3:22 PM > To: Jeffrey Paul > Cc: Fred Heutte; 3

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-15 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
So what you are saying is Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Jesus Christ son of God are also on the list to play DEMF. This is going to be a great show. MEK

RE: [313] DEMF schedule - irresponsible

2002-04-15 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
erhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: <313@hyperreal.org> 04/12/02 06:28 PM

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-15 Thread David Pinter
> Just thinking out loud about a possible scenario here: what would happen > if a few of the bookings fall through for whatever reasons (and some > will, it's inevitable). Who is responsible for filling the gaps in the > proposed lineup? Does the decision go back to the artist board or does > PCM

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-15 Thread sean deason
then how would you explain the abundance of "big names" the first year of the DEMF when a big name corporate sponsor wasnt even dreamed of? so far the very first year of the DEMF was the best. no corporate sponsors, and no over inflated expectations. just Carl Craig with a Rolodex® full of talented

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-14 Thread yussel
no sneak, it sucks that Ford's not a sponsor. What sucks more is that they didn't get any other big money sponsor, which i suspect is why the A+ acts of last year have been pretty much replaced by mid-tier or lower DJs. Nevermind the sour taste i have over Carol Marvin and the committee, everyone

Re: [313] DEMF: the mysterious schedule

2002-04-14 Thread J. T.
I don't think their presence the other years was that much bigger? Only Rolando, Buzz Goree and Suburban Knight come to mind from the previous two years? hey otto, you forgot scan 7, live, the first year... but we do have chaos live this year... jt __

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-14 Thread Otto
laura gavoor wrote: > No one I know is contracted, yet they feel compelled to announce to the > world a line-up with no formalities/legalities in place. I know the > committee was put in place just to SELECT the talent...not book it. Just thinking out loud about a possible scenario here: what

Re: [313] DEMF: the mysterious schedule

2002-04-14 Thread Otto
Fred Heutte wrote: > There also seems to be very little UR/Submerge presence in the lineup > this year. Certainly that is something to be concerned about. I don't think their presence the other years was that much bigger? Only Rolando, Buzz Goree and Suburban Knight come to mind from the previo

Re: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-14 Thread Mike Taylor
Hi, His new 12" on Delsin is extremely hot as well. Very worth looking into if you are looking for sleazy nu-disco. mt From: "Michael D Tyrer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "J. T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] DEMF sch

Re: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS

2002-04-13 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Are they definitely press passes? I have never heard of press passes being sold before!? -- >From: Lester Kenyatta Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 5:13 AM > > they are i guess SELLING press passes this

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-13 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: "Jeffrey Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fred Heutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy > PS: anyone besides me happy

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Paul
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Fred Heutte wrote: > The fact that it *is* about the Festival in such a strong way is, in my > mind, a continuing tribute to the vision and the focus that Carl Craig > had. So that's just where I stand. I don't think he got a focus. :P -j PS: anyone besides me happy about

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-13 Thread Fred Heutte
Don't forget, there *are* worse possibilities than Carol Marvin running the DEMF. I think it is important to remember that, regardless of the lineup, and fully respecting the decision of each featured artist to perform or to decline, those of us who attend the festival are there because it is abou

Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy

2002-04-13 Thread yussel
hear hear!!! me and laura can now bond against a common enemy!!! what i find really amusing is watching the responses from the public go "OMG! OMG! Kevin Saunderson, Roni Size, Rob Hood!!!" The most popular DJs are the ones that have been pulled. Its almost as if PCM is begging eveyone to hate

Re: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS

2002-04-13 Thread Michael D Tyrer
From: "diana potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > speaking as a an (x?) press person so you like Rocky 'n Diesel ? > I find this extremely annoying and idiotic. WE didnt get much as > press people last year anyways looks like you'll get even less this year .. -

Re: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread J. T.
EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:54 Subject: RE: [313] DEMF schedule > who the hell is that?? > :P > > >we want $tinkworx!!! > > > > > > > >At 12-4-2002 -0400 17:23, you wrote: > >>what a pathetic mess. my

Re: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS

2002-04-12 Thread diana potts
> > they are i guess SELLING press passes this time > around. $30...what do > > people think about this? speaking as a an (x?) press person I find this extremely annoying and idiotic. WE didnt get much as press people last year anyways (they seperated us from the artists) and every day had new p

Re: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS

2002-04-12 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: "Lester Kenyatta Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:13 PM Subject: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS > they are i guess SELLING press passes this time around. $30...what do > people think about this? I think it

RE: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread yussel
actually, i was just at the press conference and none of the 'missing' djs were mentioned at all. i suspect pcm was a little pre-mature in posting names that they didn't have locked-down. typical sketchyness. On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Catherine Eberhardt wrote: > I have a feeling that just because the

Re: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread Michael D Tyrer
$tinkworx is a brilliant dj well worth shelling out for - we heard him recently at Lost - blew the house away - Original Message - From: "J. T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:54 Subj

Re: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread Catherine Eberhardt
Oh dear, that's frustrating, especially for those planning to travel. Hmm we'll just have to wait and see what happens. : ( >>> Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/12/02 18:16 PM >>> > I have a feeling that just because they aren't shown on the schedule > doesn't mean they aren't playing. I bet t

Re: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread Kevin
> I have a feeling that just because they aren't shown on the schedule > doesn't mean they aren't playing. I bet they are going to be > rearranging the schedule quite a bit and changing around their site. I > would just stick to the basic list of people playing and worry about the > schedule late

RE: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread marsel
At 12-4-2002 -0700 17:58, you wrote: and aardvarck, and dimension 5, and a 4-hour Peel Seamus set, and dan sicko as MC! "make some noise for the man $tinkworx!!!" :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread Dan Sicko
and aardvarck, and dimension 5, and a 4-hour Peel Seamus set, and At 11:35 PM +0200 4/12/02, marsel wrote: we want $tinkworx!!! At 12-4-2002 -0400 17:23, you wrote: what a pathetic mess. my excitement is rapidly falling, the chances of me going are rapidly dropping. not that i was too

RE: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread J. T.
who the hell is that?? :P we want $tinkworx!!! At 12-4-2002 -0400 17:23, you wrote: what a pathetic mess. my excitement is rapidly falling, the chances of me going are rapidly dropping. not that i was too excited to travel 1000 miles to watch primarily dj sets anyways. in less than four h

Re: RE: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread Nocturnals
Where did it all go wrong I might go, in hopes, that some of the originators of the Detroit scene throw after parties again...Seventh City, Planet E, and others... PLEASE LET US KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY AFTER-PARTIES ORGANIZED! Kered Futurebpm.com -

RE: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread marsel
we want $tinkworx!!! At 12-4-2002 -0400 17:23, you wrote: what a pathetic mess. my excitement is rapidly falling, the chances of me going are rapidly dropping. not that i was too excited to travel 1000 miles to watch primarily dj sets anyways. in less than four hours: people who are ou

RE: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread Catherine Eberhardt
I have a feeling that just because they aren't shown on the schedule doesn't mean they aren't playing. I bet they are going to be rearranging the schedule quite a bit and changing around their site. I would just stick to the basic list of people playing and worry about the schedule later on. >>>

RE: [313] DEMF schedule

2002-04-12 Thread J. T.
what a pathetic mess. my excitement is rapidly falling, the chances of me going are rapidly dropping. not that i was too excited to travel 1000 miles to watch primarily dj sets anyways. in less than four hours: people who are out DJ Shadow Frankie Knuckles Gene Farris Roni Size Kevin Saunde

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