Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Jason Brunton
Hey, at least nobody is shouting at each other...this is progress Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Dec 2018, at 22:31, Joe Marougi wrote: > > With all due respect brother, it appears you’re only citing a portion of the > definition of a racist to which Denise is clearly aligned with the other > p

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Joe Marougi
With all due respect brother, it appears you’re only citing a portion of the definition of a racist to which Denise is clearly aligned with the other portion. I’m referring to the portion before the comma and you only mentioned the pet after the comma. Here’s the definition: a person who shows o

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread kent williams
As the moderator let me weigh in. 1) I've met and hung out briefly with Denise and participated in some substantive on-line discussions with her. She has a PHD in Ethnomusicology from Indiana University, and they don't give those away in boxes of Cracker Jacks. As with the 313 list's most famous

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Rasputin
They are doing white-washing, like the taz (http://www.taz.de/Red-Bulls-Music-Academy/!5541432/) wrote. PS: Long time lurker PPS: Im glad, that the list is still alive! Am 13.12.18 um 18:15 schrieb Juho Hietala: > Wasn’t there a Moodymann album put out by Toyota on the Scion label in > 2012 or so

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Matthew Kane
rest it please, for real. you said you would tone it down On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 4:25 PM Joe Marougi wrote: > > See what type of person we're dealing with here? > > I kinda rest my case > > #gaslighter > > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 1:16 PM wrote: >> >> How is talking about Mike Banks off topic

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Joe Marougi
See what type of person we're dealing with here? I kinda rest my case #gaslighter On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 1:16 PM wrote: > How is talking about Mike Banks off topic on a thread about Mike Banks? > > My contributions to this listserv are solid. > > You’re welcome. > > > > *Denise Dalphond, Ph

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread denisedalphond
How is talking about Mike Banks off topic on a thread about Mike Banks? My contributions to this listserv are solid. You’re welcome. Denise Dalphond, Ph.D. ethnomusicologist schoolcraftwax.work > On Dec 13, 2018, at 16:04, Arturo Lopez wrote: > > List Moderators need to come down quickly

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Arturo Lopez
List Moderators need to come down quickly and without mercy on this kind of bullshit with warning and bans, plenty of us way past annoyed at uncontroversial threads being consistently hijacked. Keep it on topic, or start your own thread, or take it private and far far away. Peace -Arturo

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Joe Marougi
My man, there’s lots of good info in the conversations here for many years. I only counted TWO incidents with me and sunshine ☀️ which should be no more than a blip on the radar. Please don’t tell me you’re ‘that’ sensitive? Shit happens now and then because we all share an emotion called passi

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread ja...@iridite.com
Well...hopefully we can have a new start now ? On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 20:52, Kent Sandvik wrote: > I unsubscribed from 313. It's not great when the mind is polluted by harsh > comments back and forth little to do with techno. --Kent > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:20 PM ja...@iridite.com > wrote

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Joe Marougi
Haha I know right?? To be honest it’s been slim pickings for a while now and if I get one more demo from a teenage duo I’m gonna hurt somebody 😖🤣 On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:50 PM ja...@iridite.com wrote: > Never heard of them, glad to see you are promoting new talent Joe 😀 > > On Thu, 13 Dec

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread ja...@iridite.com
Never heard of them, glad to see you are promoting new talent Joe 😀 On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 20:48, Joe Marougi wrote: > Ok then if i will be forced to bite my tongue with her then I’ll have to > replace it with some self promotion of a new 2-track (vinyl only) ep Im > working on for my label. Sti

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread ja...@iridite.com
Also the Nubian Mindz and CN records on that label are pretty hot too On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 20:48, Aidan O'Doherty wrote: > Nope, Todd Sines has been off my radar for while, so thanks for the heads > up, Jason. > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 8:41 PM ja...@iridite.com > wrote: > >> I just think it

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Joe Marougi
Ok then if i will be forced to bite my tongue with her then I’ll have to replace it with some self promotion of a new 2-track (vinyl only) ep Im working on for my label. Still ironing out the final agreement. It will be a 45rpm 12” that will have an original track from Rick Wilhite on one side and

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Aidan O'Doherty
Nope, Todd Sines has been off my radar for while, so thanks for the heads up, Jason. On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 8:41 PM ja...@iridite.com wrote: > I just think it's 100% plain that you two trigger each other to a high > degree and I can completely understand whybut how do we move forward > and

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread ja...@iridite.com
I just think it's 100% plain that you two trigger each other to a high degree and I can completely understand whybut how do we move forward and talk about music and the knowledge we've got about it when so many subjects seem to lead to a shouting match between two people? ANYHOW, did anyone ch

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Joe Marougi
Denise, The fact that you think that your views would make anyone laugh deserves a thread of its own. Jason, I hear you and I promise to tone it down. On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:24 PM wrote: > It is my sincere hope that my words make some people on this list laugh. > And don’t forget about al

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread denisedalphond
It is my sincere hope that my words make some people on this list laugh. And don’t forget about all the lurkers. Their opinions might be smart, too. Denise Dalphond, Ph.D. ethnomusicologist schoolcraftwax.work > On Dec 13, 2018, at 15:19, "ja...@iridite.com" wrote: > > It's not me that's Unsu

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread ja...@iridite.com
It's not me that's Unsubbing Joe...it's others. And there's not a huge amount of traffic on here and as Kent mentioned a few weeks ago, there's a significant amount of new people on here who's first experience of the hallowed 313 list is a couple of people bickering endlessly That's nothing like

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Joe Marougi
I don’t like it when she bullies others. They may be too polite to bite back but I’m not. I’ve received private messages from users in support of my replies. How about you ignore them? Its not like it happens that often, nor does it get in the way of other discussions. If she can use posts as

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread ja...@iridite.com
> Denise and Joe, is there no way you can keep your mutual animosity out of > this arena? It's seriously off-putting. > > On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 17:37, Kent Sandvik wrote: > >> Threads like this with so much hatred have nothing to do with techno and >> Detroit so most likely I will unsubscribe. -

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Kent Sandvik
Threads like this with so much hatred have nothing to do with techno and Detroit so most likely I will unsubscribe. --Kent On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:27 AM Manish Miglani wrote: > Please unsubscribe. > > > Manish Miglani > > Sent from my iPhone > > *“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful,

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Manish Miglani
Please unsubscribe. Manish Miglani Sent from my iPhone “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.” Margaret Mead > On Dec 13, 2018, at 11:25 AM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: > > It does stand for th

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread denisedalphond
It does stand for that. They changed the meaning of it because my shit was so strong. Joe, did you read my new article about Drexciya and Moodymann and UR and Theo Parrish? It’s in a book. Love, Denise Denise Dalphond, Ph.D. ethnomusicologist schoolcraftwax.work > On Dec 13, 2018, at 12:05

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Juho Hietala
Wasn’t there a Moodymann album put out by Toyota on the Scion label in 2012 or something? ;) > On 13 Dec 2018, at 17:52, Benn Glazier wrote: > > Well there's no denying that the Red Bull logo is a license to print money > these days; it's also one to spend money. The focus is on the brand as

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Joe Marougi
Her “heart?” You mean her “hate”. She’s the biggest racist in this group and doesn’t even realize it. Her PhD probably stands for profound hate doctorate. On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:00 AM Martin Dust wrote: > Red Bull don’t actually make anything, the drink itself is licensed and > manufactur

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Martin Dust
Red Bull don’t actually make anything, the drink itself is licensed and manufactured by the original Thai licenser (Chaleo Yoovidhya). Red Bull only exist to make money, somewhere around 6 Billion last time I looked. All their labour goes into the brand, that’s why they buy out edgy sports and

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread denisedalphond
Moodymann just played Paisley Park and red bull had a hand in arranging that. That’s good for Moodymann, who plays in Detroit a lot. So that’s good for Detroit. Mike Banks should have been treated with way more fanfare and better questions. But he gets to take that enormous, global stage. That

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread denisedalphond
Britain, France, Portugal, Spain; how big do you think your continent is. That’s like the whole entire thing right there. And then Germany and Italy and Poland got their whole entire weird thing goin on. Own that shit. Denise Dalphond, Ph.D. ethnomusicologist schoolcraftwax.work > On Dec 1

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Benn Glazier
Well there's no denying that the Red Bull logo is a license to print money these days; it's also one to spend money. The focus is on the brand as opposed to the product and their brand alignment is with anything that could be deemed edgy, from skateboarding to space diving. I guess there's a coupl

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread cnd
All I know is that Mark Force called it some time back on twitter. Tbf it does get London irritating when your folks think you go out for red bull and vodkas every time you party scene. That said, if I was crouching round Standing Rock with only coffee and cigarettes, I might try that irn bru c

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Martin Dust
No, that is not their core business nor what they floated on, do some research. > On 13 Dec 2018, at 11:16, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: > > Like a promoter? > > > > Denise Dalphond, Ph.D. > ethnomusicologist > schoolcraftwax.work > > On Dec 13, 2018, at 06:08, Martin Dust wrote: > >> R

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread denisedalphond
Like a promoter? Denise Dalphond, Ph.D. ethnomusicologist schoolcraftwax.work > On Dec 13, 2018, at 06:08, Martin Dust wrote: > > Red Bull are NOT a promoter, they are masters of hypernormalisation that > purchase “cool", one look at their website will tell you that. It’s a least 3 > clicks

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Martin Dust
Red Bull are NOT a promoter, they are masters of hypernormalisation that purchase “cool", one look at their website will tell you that. It’s a least 3 clicks before you see an actual product. They turn people into products. > On 13 Dec 2018, at 10:46, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: > > Mike B

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread denisedalphond
Mike Banks fucks with red bull. Kenny Dixon fucks with red bull. They’re a promoter. They have a permanent exhibit space in Detroit and this summer, Submerge had a house music exhibit there. This is no plug for red bull. They’ve never published any of my writing, but I’ve never submitted anyth

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Martin Dust
> What started it all? Red Bull simply wanted to develop a way of fostering the > discourse of underground music and dance culture. First time I’ve heard called that.

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Benn Glazier
Red Bull Music Academy is a series of collaborative workshops and festivals that’s been running for 20 years now. In a different city each time, it’s run in two parts. One is for the public - music and art installations, lectures (like the one you mention), club nights. The

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

2018-12-13 Thread Jason Brunton
Mike has been doing various work for Red Bull for...about ten years I’d say Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Dec 2018, at 09:29, cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote: > > Hey 313, > > It's out there. Forgot the url. Don't understand the red bull connection tho. > > C