Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-14 Thread Stephen Reed
I worked at Cycorp when the FACTory game was developed. The examples below do not reveal Cyc's knowledge of the assertions connecting these disparate concepts, rather most show that the argument constraints of the terms compared are rather overly generalized. The exception is the example "Most

Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-14 Thread Bob Mottram
Another way to group the data might be to tease it out into dimensions of what, where, when and whom. There does seem to be some neurological evidence for this kind of categorization. Also, by indexing the data along these lines it allows you to some extent to make meaningful interpolations from

Re: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-14 Thread Bob Mottram
Well, there's no reason to stop at a purely utilitarian level. A high level of consciousness may be necessary for performing certain kinds of task, such as imagining someone's reaction to a particular event. On 14/01/07, Gary Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, and it's a damn good thing

RE: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-14 Thread Gary Miller
No, and it's a damn good thing it isn't. If it was we would be sentencing it to a mindless job with no time off, only to be disposed of when a better model comes out. We only want our AI's to be a smart as necessary to accomplish their jobs just as our cells and organs are. Limited conciousnes

Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-14 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Gabriel R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, if you can think of any way to turn the knowledge-entry process into a > fun game or competition, go for it. I've been told by a few people working > on similar projects that making the knowledge-providing process engaging and > fun for visitors end

Re: [agi] The Edge: The Neurology of Self-Awareness by VS Ramachandran

2007-01-14 Thread Richard Loosemore
J Marlow wrote: I like the idea that self-awareness emerges as a result of a utility designed to model other minds. After reading this article, I began thinking about it and some of its implications. I started thinking about language. So I have a little thought experiment I thought I would s

Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-14 Thread Bob Mottram
This is a nice idea, but even this may not be needed. Under the orignal Mindpixel idea where coherences are calculated from true/false statements it should be possible to detect controversy and automatically group sub-psychologies. Simply keeping track of what mindpixels have been entered by wha

Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-14 Thread Bob Mottram
I think all these are excellent suggestions. On 13/01/07, Joel Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some comments/suggestions: * I think such a project should make the data public domain. Ignore silly ideas like giving be "shares" in the knowledge or whatever. It just complicates things. If the p

Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-14 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 1/14/07, Chuck Esterbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Would it support separate domains/modules? I didn't realize the importance of this point at first. Indeed, what we regard as common sense may be highly subjective as it involves matters such as human values, ideology or religion. So th

Re: [agi] The Edge: The Neurology of Self-Awareness by VS Ramachandran

2007-01-14 Thread J Marlow
I like the idea that self-awareness emerges as a result of a utility designed to model other minds. After reading this article, I began thinking about it and some of its implications. I started thinking about language. So I have a little thought experiment I thought I would share. Suppose somewh