Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-30 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:26 AM, Peter Olsson wrote: > One of the big reasons for me is this: Why would you want to pass > through > the 90%+ amount of email that is spam? > Why put this unnecessary load on internal systems and users? 96% of e-mail is rejected during SMTP. 1% of the e-mail is betw

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-30 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
> From: Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine? > > I'm curious, how many people really use amavisd to quarantine messages? We do systematically at our site. We quarantine both viruses (we don't receive many)

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-30 Thread Peter Olsson
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 03:42:00PM -0800, Jo Rhett wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > > Because 99% of the time, end-users are complete morons who couldn't > > find their own butts with both hands, a funnel, and a roadmap. The > > vast majority of them can't handle sor

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Jo Rhett
Lennard Bakker wrote: > For most users i don't want to tag there email because they don't > understand filtering options of there email client. They just want to > read there expected email with the default client config. Yeah, we do the move to Junk folder as a global script for all users. > So

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Jo Rhett
Dave McGuire wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: >>> Because 99% of the time, end-users are complete morons who couldn't >>> find their own butts with both hands, a funnel, and a roadmap. The >>> vast majority of them can't handle sorting based on tagging criteria. >> >> This i

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Lennard Bakker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jo Rhett wrote: | I'm curious, how many people really use amavisd to quarantine messages? | | And why is this better than tagging the messages and sorting them | into the Junk folder of the recipient? | | I'm honestly curious, because there is a metric

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Dave McGuire
On Jan 29, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: >> Because 99% of the time, end-users are complete morons who >> couldn't find their own butts with both hands, a funnel, and a >> roadmap. The vast majority of them can't handle sorting based on >> tagging criteria. > > This is why I am curious.

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Jon Fullmer
On Jan 29, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: > This is why I am curious. Trying to get users to log into a > different system to check the quarantine has never yielded good > results in my mind. Sorting it into a folder they can check on their > mail client of choice always seems to work, they u

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Eray Aslan
On 30.01.2008 01:42, Jo Rhett wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: >> Because 99% of the time, end-users are complete morons who couldn't >> find their own butts with both hands, a funnel, and a roadmap. The >> vast majority of them can't handle sorting based on tagging cr

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:amavis-user- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Rhett > > I'm curious, how many people really use amavisd to quarantine messages? > > And why is this better than tagging the messages and sorting them > into the Junk folder of the rec

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jan 29, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > Because 99% of the time, end-users are complete morons who couldn't > find their own butts with both hands, a funnel, and a roadmap. The > vast majority of them can't handle sorting based on tagging criteria. This is why I am curious. Trying

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jan 29, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Stefan Palme wrote: > No education from me - just my contribution to statistics: I am using > quarantine only for VIRUS INFECTED mails (because some users still > want to open an attachment even if the mail is wrapped by an "THIS IS > A VIRUS MAIL" message). > Spam is n

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Dave McGuire
On Jan 29, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: > I'm curious, how many people really use amavisd to quarantine > messages? I use it at three commercial sites, soon to be four, and am responsible for its deployment on about ten others. > And why is this better than tagging the messages and so

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Steve
Original-Nachricht > Datum: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:13:33 +0100 > Von: Stefan Palme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: Amavis Users > Betreff: Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine? > > I'm curious, how many people really use a

Re: [AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Stefan Palme
> I'm curious, how many people really use amavisd to quarantine messages? > > And why is this better than tagging the messages and sorting them > into the Junk folder of the recipient? > > I'm honestly curious, because there is a metric ton of code involved > in the quarantine process, and I'

[AMaViS-user] how many people really use the quarantine?

2008-01-29 Thread Jo Rhett
I'm curious, how many people really use amavisd to quarantine messages? And why is this better than tagging the messages and sorting them into the Junk folder of the recipient? I'm honestly curious, because there is a metric ton of code involved in the quarantine process, and I'm really not s