Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Donald Chester
I wonder though Don, while I've got your .. uhm 'ear' (eyes?) The link could use a little tuning to take a bit more load in the final. I've modified one of my 80m B&W HDVL plug-in coils and removed two turns on each side (4 turns, total), to raise the plate current a bit, because the Q is

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Barrie Smith
- Original Message - From: "Mike Sawyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio" Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple Doesn't the BC-610 accomplish this with the 250TH? Yes. Or might it be that it is utilizing half the

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
Darrell, WA5VGO wrote: Triodes are great for grounded grid, but for class C, why fight neutralization? Use a power grid tube. Sure you need a screen supply, but consider the paybacks. No neutralization; at least on the lower frequencies, and low drive requirements. I realize modulating it is a

Re: [AMRadio] Re:Balanced Line Antenna Tuner

2005-09-22 Thread Barrie Smith
Don: If you are talking about a "true" balanced antenna tuner, with link coupling and dual-differential output caps, and NO Baluns, you are not likely to achieve 160 through 10. I built a monster true-balanced tuner a few years ago for 160 through 40M. With the components required for the lo

RE: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Darrell, WA5VGO
Triodes are great for grounded grid, but for class C, why fight neutralization? Use a power grid tube. Sure you need a screen supply, but consider the paybacks. No neutralization; at least on the lower frequencies, and low drive requirements. I realize modulating it is a little trickier, but I'

Re: [AMRadio] Johnson 232-620

2005-09-22 Thread Barrie Smith
Mike: Where would one find the 232-620? 84 microhenry would be great! 73, Barrie, W7ALW - Original Message - From: "Mike Dorworth,K4XM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio" Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: [AMRadio] Johnson 232-620 Edgewise wound,

RE: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple - WD5JKO

2005-09-22 Thread Jim candela
Hi all, I have a different twist on this wonderful topic. Years ago I was going over the very issue, and I had a Viking I transmitter, and I wanted to run the legal limit of about 375 watts carrier 100% modulated am. So that would be 6 db to go from say 100 watts to 400 watts. I went through

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
Byron Lichtenwalner wrote: Geoff Don't have the tube characteristics here, but from your description your changing the operating point of the amp by changing L/C ration. Or the "transformer effect" (turns ratio of link to plate coil) gives a better match to the antenna) http://w5omr.sha

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
Mike Sawyer wrote: Doesn't the BC-610 accomplish this with the 250TH? Or might it be that it is utilizing half the coil. Mike(y) W3SLK Yeah, it does, Mike. I didn't even think about that, and I recently downloaded a schematic in .gif format of a BC-610 E model. Not the best in the world,

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
Byron Lichtenwalner wrote: Geoff Don't have the tube characteristics here, but from your description your changing the operating point of the amp by changing L/C ration. Or the "transformer effect" (turns ratio of link to plate coil) gives a better match to the antenna) If you have a 100

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Mike Sawyer
Doesn't the BC-610 accomplish this with the 250TH? Or might it be that it is utilizing half the coil. Mike(y) W3SLK - Original Message - From: "Brett gazdzinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Discussion of AM Radio'" Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Byron Lichtenwalner
Geoff Don't have the tube characteristics here, but from your description your changing the operating point of the amp by changing L/C ration. Or the "transformer effect" (turns ratio of link to plate coil) gives a better match to the antenna) If you have a 1000 pf that will take the volta

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
Byron Lichtenwalner wrote: Geoff Your last discussion on the L/C ratio of the tank intrigues me. Was the circuit not resonate with the extra (now removed) turns? On the link tuning, what series cap. value are you using? Does it load heavier when at max. cap or minimum? Byron, W3WKR It w

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Byron Lichtenwalner
Geoff Your last discussion on the L/C ratio of the tank intrigues me. Was the circuit not resonate with the extra (now removed) turns? On the link tuning, what series cap. value are you using? Does it load heavier when at max. cap or minimum? Byron, W3WKR - Original Message - From: "W

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
I need to better proof-read my posts, before hitting the 'send' button.. W5OMR/Geoff wrote: <>Donald Chester wrote: What does 1500 watt pep have to do with it? Well... you know. I certainly don't want to Advertise ;-) My Gates BC1-T uses a pair of 833A triodes in parallel, with a pi-netw

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
Donald Chester wrote: What does 1500 watt pep have to do with it? Well... you know. I certainly don't want to Advertise ;-) My Gates BC1-T uses a pair of 833A triodes in parallel, with a pi-network followed by a T network and another L netork, to couple the final to the antenna. The gr

RE: [AMRadio] Collins filter

2005-09-22 Thread Donald Chester
I am looking for the 6.0khz filter..Pt # F-455-J60.. for the Collins 75A4 Reciever...Tnx Ron W6MAU Lots of luck. The trophy collectors have driven the price beyond what one used to pay for an entire 75A4. You can buy a reproduction filter, built around a modern Rockwell mechanical filt

RE: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Donald Chester
I know of a guy who wants to build a rig using a single 450TL in the final, modulated by a pair. He >wants to pi-net the output, but I've heard that's a bad idea. I want to build a rig using a medium powered tride, perhaps a 250TH, modulated by a pair of >811's. Pi-Net, or Link Couple?

Re: [AMRadio] Re:Balanced Line Antenna Tuner

2005-09-22 Thread W7QHO
In a message dated 9/22/05 9:19:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I want to construct a balanced line antenna tuner to cover 160-10 meters, > does any one have any good ideas on one, and where a diagram can be > obtained. > > A multitude of circuits and thousands of pages of description, the

Re: [AMRadio] Johnson 226-1

2005-09-22 Thread Donald Chester
Johnson 226-3 Inductance 13.5 microHenry, 19.5 turns. Heavy duty rotary inductor for amateur and commercial use. Handle over a KW of modulated RF energy to 30 mHz. Winding 1/4" x 1/8" edgewise copper. Spring loaded beryllium copper contact. Variable pitch winding- wide frequency coverage. Heig

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread bcarling
Hey Ronnie, YOU got the Boa Constrictor, OM! Why would you need it? Oh I get it - you want it for the DRIVER STAGE! He he he he he! On 22 Sep 2005 at 11:16, ronnie.hull wrote: > he don't need it Bry, let me have it LOL > > > > -- Original Message --- > From: Geoff <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread bcarling
On 22 Sep 2005 at 9:03, Geoff wrote: > Bry, just on the Off-chance that I might make it to Florida, what are > you asking for that 2500v @ 1amp xfmr? > -Geoff/W5OMR Hi Geoff - I would let it go real reasonable - like $26.00 It's an older style upright transformer with a ceramic top. Kind of c

[AMRadio] Re:Balanced Line Antenna Tuner

2005-09-22 Thread Donald R. R Moore
I want to construct a balanced line antenna tuner to cover 160-10 meters, does any one have any good ideas on one, and where a diagram can be obtained. Thanks, Don W5FFK On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:12:24 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Send AMRadio mailing list submissions to > amradio@

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread ronnie.hull
he don't need it Bry, let me have it LOL -- Original Message --- From: Geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Discussion of AM Radio Sent: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:03:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple > ronnie.hull wrote: > > > <>well Bry, you gotta unnerstand, I'm next

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Mike Dorworth,K4XM
Ronnie, Hello! The 1 kilowatt Triode Pi-Network Amplifier using the 450TH is in the Editors and Engineers Handbook 14th Edition. The first of the handbooks edited by Bill Orr W6SAI. It has the RED cover. It starts on Page 585 in chapter 26-12 and ends on page 589. My scanner got knocked off the tab

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Geoff
ronnie.hull wrote: <>well Bry, you gotta unnerstand, I'm next door to Texas, that makes me a cousin.. and you know how they are in texas.. everything is bigger!!! R Bry, just on the Off-chance that I might make it to Florida, what are you asking for that 2500v @ 1amp xfmr? -- 73 = Best Re

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Geoff
ronnie.hull wrote: <>well it clearley shows on the top of the tranny 4100 - 0 - 4100.. I'll test it out this weekend and we'll know then. did you ever even put power to this transformer? R Yes, I did. Did it at John/WA5BXO's place.

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread ronnie.hull
well Bry, you gotta unnerstand, I'm next door to Texas, that makes me a cousin.. and you know how they are in texas.. everything is bigger!!! R -- Original Message --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio Sent: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:41:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [AMRadi

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread ronnie.hull
well it clearley shows on the top of the tranny 4100 - 0 - 4100.. I'll test it out this weekend and we'll know then. did you ever even put power to this transformer? R -- Original Message --- From: Geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Discussion of AM Radio Sent: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread bcarling
On 22 Sep 2005 at 7:22, Geoff wrote: > > I just got the worled biggest honker daddy plate transformer from W5OMR. > > 8200V center tapped ( 4100 - 0 - 4100 ) at 4.5KVA !! > I think you're going to find, and we talked about this, that the > transformer is 4100v across the entire secondary (@4.74

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Geoff
ronnie.hull wrote: <>Mike I'm the fellow that is going to build up a Class C final using a 450TL. I would love to get a copy of that schematic for the 450TH rig in the Editors and Engineers handbook. I have a few of those, but apparently, not that one. I have a very nice B&W 850A or 852 that

RE: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread Brett gazdzinski
I don't think there is any way to run a triode single ended with link coupled output, not in class C. I run a pair of 812A's (or 811A's, or V70D's) push pull link coupled output modulated by a pair of 811A's. It works very well. You can run them up to 2000 volts on the plates, or 1750, 0r 1500.

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread ronnie.hull
Mike I'm the fellow that is going to build up a Class C final using a 450TL. I would love to get a copy of that schematic for the 450TH rig in the Editors and Engineers handbook. I have a few of those, but apparently, not that one. I have a very nice B&W 850A or 852 that I can use in this rig.

Re: [AMRadio] Pi-Net vs Link Couple

2005-09-22 Thread bcarling
On 21 Sep 2005 at 21:45, Geoff wrote: > I've heard recently that matching the output of the Class C > pate-modulated final to the antenna is better, and more efficiently > achieved by link coupling, vs Pi-Net. Where did you hear that? > On the other hand, it's argued > that Pi-Net coupling

[AMRadio] Collins filter

2005-09-22 Thread Rivpapa1
I am looking for the 6.0khz filter..Pt # F-455-J60.. for the Collins 75A4 Reciever...Tnx Ron W6MAU